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"If Clinton had just passed out from mere dehydration (despite the very scary looking jerking motions we see on film) – is that any way to treat a sixty-eight year old woman with pneumonia who just (violently) fainted while waiting for her car; to throw her, bent almost completely in half, into the back seat of a waiting security van “like a side of beef?” Would pneumonia and a simple fainting episode in any way, shape or form justify manhandling the future President of the United States on a NYC public street like that if all she needed was the air-conditioning and a cup of fucking water?

If Clinton was so dehydrated that she literally fainted; how the fuck was she back on the road a mere hour and a half after the episode? Every medical journal in existence will tell you that sufficiently severe dehydration (the kind that would make you pass out) requires immediate medical attention; we’re talking a visit to the hospital here, not chilling out in your daughter’s apartment for an hour to retouch your fucking make-up. Remember, Clinton wasn’t just “kind of dry” folks, she was supposedly so dehydrated it made her violently pass out for fuck’s sake – none of this makes a lick of goddamn sense whatsoever."

My daughter is very thin and very athletic and has to be super prepared so as not to get heat stroke. It's DAYS to recover from heat stroke and dehydration. She found out the hard way during a dance camp that you have to take care and prepare. Now she is super careful because she knows heat exhaustion or heat stroke are not silly little things.

Thanks for the link. I like the writer's "fucking" style

from viral, according to this doctor:

One problem with treating pneumonia is that often there is no way to tell whether it's viral or bacterial, noted [Ephraim] Tsalik [assistant professor of infectious diseases at Duke University in Durham, NC]. "In the majority of cases, they have no clue despite getting all the tests available," he said, adding that most of the tests out there have limitations. "The assumption is in the majority of cases it's bacterial" and most doctors will prescribe an antibiotic just to be on the safe side.

This comes from a mainstream medical newsletter, MedPage Today, and it's the second time I've read that this week (about it being very difficult to tell if pneumonia is bacterial or viral). So when Dr. Bardak says unequivocally that it's bacterial and not contagious, I wonder how she knows that. Could it be she knows it's aspirational, possibly related to a more serious condition? Or is she just covering for HRC, so we can't say she was irresponsible spreading germs around?

brain injury. That may also explain HRC's reluctance to drink water. Someone from the secret service has already leaked the fact of her very serious illness and suggested Parkinsons.
Aspirational pneumonia is a leading cause of death for Parkinsons.

I had actually already read Nina's piece yesterday, but I am glad you posted it here. I have been a fan of Nina's for many months.

Yesterday I wondered why, if they were just going to make something up, they didn't go with the flu instead of pneumonia.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/14/politics/bill-clinton-hillary-clinton-diag...

Bill Clinton's effort to help his recuperating wife Wednesday may have instead caused her another political headache when he said Hillary Clinton was suffering from the flu, not pneumonia, as her campaign has said.

They got him back on message, but I think Bill had the better idea.

I read Nina's article and really agree with these two separate comments she made:

The really fucked up part about all the theories on Clinton’s heath in my mind however, is that fact that it really doesn’t even fucking matter if Clinton has an illness that would be disqualifying for the Presidency or not; after the shitshow her campaign just unloaded on America on Sunday, Monday and now Tuesday – the damage to her Presidential run can already be described as utterly fucking catastrophic.

And this is why it matters:

This isn’t about who is, or isn’t medically fit to be President; we’ve had sick Presidents before and even if someone dies while in office, the country will still go on under the Vice President. What it’s about now is a simple question; how many open, bald-faced and laughably embarrassing lies to the American public is too many?

There has been some discussion about whether or not Hillary has Parkinson's and the effect of l-dopa on her (possible) condition. For anyone interested, here is a write-up that explains about this medication:

http://www.nytimes.com/health/guides/disease/parkinsons-disease/levadopa-(l-dopa).html

https://mishtalk.com/2016/09/14/late-stage-lying-pneumonia-theory-vs-par...

Comments From M.D. Zadeh

Hi Mish
It looks like you got two doctors commenting and now you will have a third. While I don’t disagree with the doctor’s opinions given what was presented, I think some of the facts presented to the public are in question.

Let me go over some basic things. When you have a blood clot in the brain, the biggest danger is that blood flow to that section of the brain is cut off and brain tissue dies; that is a stroke. If there is a blood clot causing symptoms and the clot gets dissolved or breaks away such that blood flow is not permanently interrupted, that is called a transient ischemic (without oxygen) attack or TIA or mini stroke.

However, there are also very small strokes that destroy brain tissue at the microscopic level. Those are called lacunar infarctions and they often result in a type of dementia called vascular dementia. Not to get too technical, but vascular dementia also is overlapped dementia and Parkinsons of Alzheimer’s dementia and Parkinson’s.

I think people pointing to Parkinson’s don’t get what Lewy body and vascular dementia are: forms of dementia with Parkinsonian features that wax and wane depending on blood flow. If there is diminished blood flow to the dopamine producing parts of the brain: Parkinson symptoms can occur but vanish once blood flow is restored. Hilary wouldn’t have gotten through the election campaign with full blown Parkinson’s, but she could have gotten by with hiding early vascular/Lewy body dementia IMO, and that is what I suspect is going on with her.

The thing I have told people is once you have blood clots gumming up your brain, things don’t get better. This is a progressive problem and as someone who has extensively studied coagulation, the notion put out by HRC’s staff that you put someone on blood thinners, the clot dissolves because of the blood thinner, and a person has a full recovery is complete baloney. A disruption in blood flow to the brain is going to be followed by continued disruptions in blood flow, and I know of no treatment to stop it in a case like HRC’s that involves smaller blood vessels.

When you have a neurovascular issue causing dysphagia (difficulty swallowing which is what causes her to cough), seizures (the reason for the staff caring around the Valium or diazepam pen), and weakness, those are REALLY bad signs. IMO she is a ticking time bomb to have a major and debilitating stroke.

With Hiliary’s “pneumonia”, a doctor saying so is completely inadequate. How was it diagnosed? Was an acid fast stain done? Were mycoplasma titers or cultures performed? What was the level of cold agglutins? Furthermore, if HRC was diagnosed with mycoplasma or walking pneumonia, why was she allowed to come in contact with a child when this disease is known to be contagious? And what did her chest x-ray look like? She should have had one to be diagnosed with pneumonia.

Bear in mind that when you have weakness with pneumonia, it usually is due to dehydration and causes orthostasis (dizziness when getting up). If HRC were going from sitting to standing and needed support, I could buy the dehydration/pneumonia story. But she was already standing and then went limp. That is most likely a neurological problem not a hydration one.

People should be clamoring to see the chest x-ray and lab results for HRC. To me the most damning finding would be a normal white blood cell count, a negative acid fast stain, normal tiitre ratio of cold agglutins, and an infiltrate in the middle lobe of the right lung. That would be strongly suggestive that HRC has aspiration pneumonitis due to dysphagia from an underlying neurovascular issue and that the walking pneumonia diagnosis was pure bunk. But I would be shocked if we see the lab or X-ray results.

Bottom line though is I said HRC had serious medical issues to someone a month ago, and recent events have fortified that opinion. If the Dems handle HRC’s health issues as a conspiracy or a malicious Trump plot versus truthful full disclosure, IMO they are giving the election to Trump. For the Dems to win in November, they need to get a new candidate yesterday.

Joseph Zadeh

Reagan in 1985:

Reporting Reagan awake, talking and recovering ''beautifully,'' Oller said at a news conference after the surgery that the 74-year-old president has a better than 95 percent survival rate over the next five years.

While Reagan was under the effects of general anesthesia and postoperative painkillers, Vice President George Bush served as acting president, empowered by a historic letter Reagan signed before he was taken to surgery.

http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/1985-07-14/news/0310300233_1_reagan-...

Bush in 2007:

Doctors removed five small polyps from President Bush's colon on Saturday, and "none appeared worrisome," a White House spokesman said.

The polyps were removed and sent to the National Naval Medical Center in Bethesda, Maryland, for routine microscopic examination, spokesman Scott Stanzel said. Results are expected in two to three days.

All were small, less than a centimeter [half an inch] in diameter, he said.

http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/07/21/bush.colonoscopy/index.html

over at TOP (actually two of them) rushed out the news that Hillary doesn't sweat, quoting an interview where she answered "name a weird thing about yourself. Both went immediately to the top of the reclist. But then somebody must have realized that made the dehydration story even less believable, so nobody has cited that since.

This is a pretty fair chronology gathered from known information. Also, it appears that she has been traveling with a rolling hospital for some time; saw a video a couple of days ago that actually showed a real ambulance in her entourage. Obviously, nothing to see here....

UPDATED: Hillary's health is not a conspiracy theory, the coverup is wide

http://jackpineradicals.com/boards/topic/asking-questions-about-hillarys...

FIFTH FACT: CAVERNOUS SINUS THROMBOSIS

Wikileaks has released a 2013 email from Huma Abedin to Hillary Clinton which contains a FOX News article titled “Hillary Clinton’s Blood Clot Treatment And The Need For Privacy”. The article describes Hillary’s diagnosis of Cavernous Sinus Thrombosis and her possible treatment options.

“In fact Secretary Clinton’s neurologist at Columbia, who I heard from yesterday, is a top national expert on strokes, brain clots, bleeds, and head trauma. She couldn’t be in better hands. Her condition, Right Transverse Sinus Thrombosis, is a fancy term for a blood clot forming in one of the main sinuses (a drain) of the brain. This clot can lead to brain swelling or a stroke, and it is certainly life threatening. However, in a situation where it is found incidentally and no symptoms have been exhibited, the risk is less because the brain’s venous system may have found another way to drain while the clot is in the process of being dissolved…

SNIP…Why did this clot in the brain occur in the first place? Studies have shown that head trauma, which followed Secretary Clinton’s faint a month ago, is one likely contributor, along with the dehydration that she probably suffered from a gastrointestinal virus a month ago and the associated diarrhea. Though the mechanism of a clot in the leg is more generally linked with immobility, there have been reports of venous clots in the brain occurring after prolonged sitting on planes.

Since she suffered another blood clot in 1998, she now requires a hematological work-up to make sure she doesn’t have an underlying tendency to form blood clots in the first place – known as hypercoagulability. If she does have that tendency, she will require a more prolonged or even permanent course of blood thinners, as well as an investigation to make sure there is no blood-thickening malignancy. This work-up cannot be completed until she is off Coumadin, which interferes with some of the results.

Blood thinners are likely to be successful in Hillary Clinton’s case, and she can look forward to a full recovery with the help of her careful devoted physicians. Her illness is a reminder to all of us in the media, journalist and physician alike, that health care is primarily a private matter, not a time for lurid interest and certainly not a time for political criticism.”

According to an article in The Guardian, U.S. Edition, Hillary claims to be "fully recovered" from pneumonia, after just four days of rest, during which time she reflected on what her campaign means. Isn't that a miracle? A 68-year-old woman, whose doctor said it would take six to eight weeks to recover, feels great after just four days! Unless, unless, could it be that Hill recovered so quickly from pneumonia because she never had it in the first place? Bring on the "real" news conference and debates!