I'm beginning to understand those who might wish to vote for Trump based upon the idea that what remains of the democratic party will absolutely consume itself should Her Heinous somehow contrive to lose the election.

Think of it. They have pulled out all the stops, spared no expense, burned every bridge, hacked every machine, coopted every media outlet, and screwed (in every possible orifice) every life form that can fog a mirror, all in the single minded effort to Get Her Her Turn. They have abandoned any pretense of defensible behavior: at this point, she's the Max Bialystock of politicians, and has sold her soul 50 times over to Get Her Turn. She will stop at nothing to win: that is clear. She can also still easily lose, despite having done what she has done (and will continue to do).

If she loses, I believe that there will be absolute *carnage* within the democratic party. The butcher's bill will have to be paid, the piper doesn't work for free. It would be le grand caramboulage: she now Owes People, and the people left standing will be the ones with all the money. And in that environment, shit well and truly runs downhill. I can't even begin to imagine what will happen to the democrat machine should she go down in flames. She will take a lot of people with her, I think.

I can see why some folks might like to see that: it is a seductive image...

many cuts to our social insurance programs, compared to what we've experienced under this Administration. Remember, he dropped his Social Security reform proposal like a hot potato, thankfully.

Don't forget, during the last Lame Duck Session (under PBO), Social Security 'reform' was passed that cost many couples to lose tens of thousands of dollars of SS benefits during their lifetimes.

Dave Lindorff at CounterPunch wrote a scathing piece--as he should have--about this abomination occurring at the hands of a Democratic President.

As a matter of fact, during GWB's Administration, the 'rules' (which were put into place during WJC's Administration) that automatically placed property (homes) into the MERP for folks enrolled in a MSP, were relaxed--at least, leaving it up to each state to decide whether they chose to penalize low income seniors who qualified, in this manner.

The justification for this move was that very high numbers of low income seniors--who weren't poor enough to qualify for Medicaid, but too poor to afford the Medicare premium--went without health care (meaning Medicare) because they didn't want liens placed on their homes.

I was researching something else, when I ran across this tidbit. Later, I helped a former associate apply for this program. He was enrolled in MSP until his death at age 75. Because of this (GWB) 'rule change,' Uncle Sugar didn't put his home 'in recovery,' in order to recoup the piddling Medicare premiums that they paid on his behalf for those years, and he was able to leave his home to his surviving adult child.

(Now, some states still do this. Saw a few months ago that PBO was going to 'revamp,' or standardize this rule. I'm going to try to follow up, and see if the change is to go back to the punitive WJC rule, or relax it further. The piece didn't say 'what' was being considered.)

Bottom line, I have no idea what either a 'C' or 'T' Administration would do. But, I no longer reflexively believe that corporatist Dems are superior to Repubs, when it comes to protecting our Social Safety Net programs. IMHO, WJC's and PBO's Administrations seem to have belied this notion.

BTW, at Johnson's town halls, he's repeatedly called for balancing the budget on the back of seniors--by 'reforming' Social Security. I posted last week where 'On The Issues' shows that he has called for the SS eligibility age to be raised to 75.

Anyhoo, if my state allows me, I'll vote for Stein. But, in a million years, I'd never think that a Libertarian ticket like Johnson/Weld would be the answer.

Unless, I were Pete Peterson.

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a Democrat? Or to vote for one?

The people pretty well picked Sanders as their candidate and he is not a DLCer whatever his shortcomings may or may not be. I would say he's in line for the nomination should Clinton be unfit to carry on.