OT The women

Shaharazade had a fine OT going...but she didn't hit "save" and then accidentally navigated away from this page, losing everything and now she's cooking dinner so I (Shahryar) am going to take up the theme in my own way, not exactly wrecking it but giving it a slightly different emphasis, just because, as a male, I can't help it. I can't write it from the same perspective.

anyway, she was writing about women in the arts. I gather from what she was telling me that fine art is [censored] so she was showcasing women singers/musicians.

Nina Simone was in the Evening Blues. Shaz picked this song, later covered by the Animals. Ms. Simone hated their version! Here's hers:

she was a strong woman who took no guff! Joe and hecate gave us some background and it's more than I know about her so let's move on.

But Nina Simone reminds me of another strong woman singer, Eartha Kitt. She was a hero of mine for the way she told it like it was to Lady Bird Johnson.

You send the best of this country off to be shot and maimed. No wonder the kids rebel and take pot. The children of America are not rebelling for no reason. They are not hippies for no reason at all. We don’t have what we have on Sunset Blvd. for no reason. They are rebelling against something. There are so many things burning the people of this country, particularly mothers. They feel they are going to raise sons—and I know what it's like, and you have children of your own, Mrs. Johnson—we raise children and send them to war.

We need someone to talk to Michelle Obama like that instead of the sycophants whose idea of success is being in a Nike commercial. Here's Eartha

for young women in the 60s (I'm told, and I can believe it's true) there was a certain way to act. There was a sharp line dividing the sexes. I took shop class, not because I wanted to but because all boys had to. And all girls had to take home economics, which wasn't really about economics at all but more like how to sew and type.It was a man's world, we were told. On a side note, we recently saw a movie, "Woman's World", that was anything but and concluded with the line "it's a woman's world because men are in it". Made me shudder! But that was the mentality...as many of us remember. 50% were not happy with it.

Boys didn't really understand the resentment this was causing but this next song brought it out.

in the 70s there was this group called Blondie that was one of our favorites, before they sold out and sucked. [ed. note: the writer's opinion]

They were a wonderful pop band, featuring Debbie Harry and her attitude. Too bad about their later work. Sadly, Pandora seems to believe they only recorded that later stuff.

hey...one more

Then there's Annie Lennox, who co-wrote those hits by the Eurythmics. She's a do-gooder who's gotten an OBE, which is some sort of big deal in Great Britain.

This one is my favorite

and lastly, Akron's Chrissie Hynde, went to England, put a band together, became successful there, then here. I think she's been more influential than Patti Smith. Another tough, no-nonsense, don't get in my way type of woman.

Shaharazade has given me clear instructions. This is about strong women who did, have done, and are doing things their own way. No "I Want to Be Bobby's Girl" here. No Brill Building.

Well, this isn't as clear as what she was writing. It's just a shadow of her concept. I hope I came close though.

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It's Thursday and I get to work from home. Thankfully.

Cenk Uygur went ham on the Villagers for proclaiming HRC won the debate and ignoring every metric that Sanders was seen as the winner.

As for female artists that I dig, I gotta go with Tina Turner, Esthero, Lauryn Hill, Pink, Patti LaBelle, Madonna (yeah, I know, but she's awesome anyway), Skye Edwards of Morcheeba, Bebel Gilberto, Natalie Merchant, Lykke Li, Cher, Diana Ross, Shakira (her earlier stuff before her debut in the USA), Emilíana Torrini and I'll stop there because my list would get insane.

Last night I played in a poker tourney again. At the Church Street Tavern. Nice bar. Looks old, lived in, and oak-ish. That building's more than a century old, 1886 I think. Ended up in 2nd place and out of the money. I just ran out of luck and wasn't getting any cards in the end, although I knocked out several players in the evening with guile, luck, and good poker face. Everyone in the game has different...what I call kung fu. My kung fu involves trapping a lot with minimal bluffing. I rarely bluff. And if I do, it's usually successful. I'm not World Series of Poker good, or good with calculating odds in my head like a scientific calculator, but I get mine. Except for last night.

After the game, the bartender, his lady friend (who dressed like she was from 1955 and was cool), and I went over to help celebrate our mutual friend winning a bartenders competition over at Lizzy McCormack's. It was one of those sponsored things and apparently he totally dominated the competition and won a swag bag with a bit of cash. And, most importantly, bragging rights. So that was cool. Then we sat around the table and sang, talked about where we've been, and another buddy hopped on the bar with a bottle of whisky, pouring it down people's throats as he walked by. Good times.

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The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe. If you try it, you will be lonely often, and sometimes frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself. - Friedrich Nietzsche -

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It distressed me no end to wake up after the 'debate' and hear about how HRC won. Even the Guardian jumped on board with crown her she won. However the comment section seemed to disagree vehemently. Are you a professional poker player? My granddaughter's boyfriend was /is a pro poker player. He just got his realtor license so now he's a part time poker player. He literally does have a great poker face.

On the theme of my OT and poker...

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is I remember all those songs (except the Susan Tedeschi one) from my youth. Susan is too young to be from my youth. Wink I am a fan of Susan Tedeschi and the Tedeschi Trucks Band.

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“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~ President John F. Kennedy

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The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe. If you try it, you will be lonely often, and sometimes frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself. - Friedrich Nietzsche -

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I think a lot of folks simply do not appreciate what Derek Trucks has done for blues music. He is the keeper of the flame for a lot of different styles of music, but particularly blues. Derek is not just a great guitarist, but a historian too. While Susan and the rest of the band take the spotlight, Derek is the guy behind it all. He is not a flashy up front guy, but he is all about the music, beyond being one of the best guitarists around.

I thought that the Black Crows had split up, mostly due to the brothers' feud. Apparently Rich Robinson, guitarist for the Black Crows, was once very angry with Chris Robinson over Chris's drug use. Still, it is good to see these two bands together.

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I saw DTB a couple of times. One time, I had a bad case of gout going and limped several blocks to see DTB. They were terrific.

The interplay between Derek and Warren Haynes (of Asheville) is very impressive.

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To have seen Derek Trucks play in person. I am envious. Smile

I really enjoyed your selection of Soul Shine with Warren Haynes and Derek Trucks playing against one another. Warren Haynes has done so much for Asheville with his annual Christmas Jam fundraiser for Habitat. It always sells out and often he has surprise guests.

Derek is such a modest guitar player. He lets his playing do his talking for him without being flashy. I probably should do an Open Thread topic on him some day.

Thank you for sharing, Tim. Smile

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“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~ President John F. Kennedy

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I really the Shoop Shoop song. I like them all Tim thanks.

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toddlers do. I guess

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Guns don't kill people. Dog with guns kill people.

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Many moons ago my husband was in the USCG on an icebreaker called the Sundew. It was stationed in Charlevoix, a hoity-toity resort town on Lake Michigan in northern Michigan. When they weren't breaking ice, they rescued rich sailors who were too drunk to navigate their fancy schmancy boats back through the channel to get to dock. The Sundew had a mascot as most CG duty stations do. It was a dog, and her name was Shackles. She went where the ship went. When they would get back from where ever and tie up in Charlevoix, Shackles would trot off down the ramp for shore leave to the local bar. They always welcomed her with bowls of beer. When she was done partying, she would make her way back to the ship where she would sleep off her night on the town.

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"Religion is what keeps the poor from murdering the rich."--Napoleon

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I know who works at a vet's office reports that over the last several years area vets have been plagued by a wearying succession of stoned dogs. The owners always initially try to deny Reality, but the symptoms of pot-dogs are unmistakeable. They shiver, can't walk straight, piss on themselves. Sometimes there is piteous howling. Commonly they have gobbled baked goods. Nothing can be done for them but to put them in a special OD room, one that is quiet and dark.

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The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe. If you try it, you will be lonely often, and sometimes frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself. - Friedrich Nietzsche -

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I have never heard or seen it. It's so stunning, it's my old neighborhood. The images of Berlin, that's what they were for me in the late 1960ies to the end of the 1970ies. Oh wow, thank you, hecate. I lived 12 years in Berlin after highschool and my most forming years happened there. I still remember a German singer, who captured the "city's Zeitgeist feelings" so very well. I have forgotten his name and lost the record through the years. I tried to search for it, but never found it back.I hope to find it one day. Lots of memories related to that.

Now I listen also to KD Lang. As I very much like Leonard Cohen, I just listen to KD Lang singing the "Hallelujah". Ah, it's good to spend time here. I still like Cohen's version better, I love this one too.
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Man, this is a tough evening. The intercept article and all the music. Goes to heart and mind. The last one is also a performance by Nina Simone that amazes me a lot.

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are from the Wim Wenders film Wings Of Desire. If you haven't seen it, you really should. Especially since it's your old neighborhood. ; )

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It’s more expensive for even the most creditworthy companies to borrow or refinance even as the Fed has kept its benchmark at near-zero the last seven years. Companies have loaded up on debt. They owe more in interest than they ever have, while their ability to service what they owe, a metric called interest coverage, is at its lowest since 2009, according to data compiled by Bloomberg.
The deterioration of balance-sheet health is “increasingly alarming” and will only worsen if earnings growth continues to stall amid a global economic slowdown, according to Goldman Sachs Group Inc. credit strategists led by Lotfi Karoui. Since corporate credit contraction can lead to recession, high debt loads will be a drag on the economy if investors rein in lending, said Deutsche Bank AG analysts led by Oleg Melentyev, the bank’s U.S. credit strategy chief.
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As of the second quarter, high-grade companies tracked by JPMorgan incurred $119 billion in interest expenses over the last year, the most for data going back to 2000, according to the bank’s analysts. The amount the companies owed rose 4 percent in the second quarter, the analysts said.

The fallout of more borrowing coupled with lower earnings has raised concern among the analysts who track the debt and the money managers who buy it. Yet it seems the companies themselves are acting as if it’s not happening. They’re still paying out record amounts in buybacks and dividends.
In the second quarter, the most creditworthy companies posted declining earnings before interest, taxes, depreciation and amortization. Yet they returned 35 percent of those earnings to shareholders, according to JPMorgan.
That’s kept their cash-payout ratio -- how much money they give to shareholders relative to Ebitda -- steady at a 15-year high.

The borrowing has gotten so aggressive that for the first time in about five years, equity fund managers who said they’d prefer companies use cash flow to improve their balance sheets outnumbered those who said they’d rather have it returned to shareholders, according to a survey by Bank of America Merrill Lynch.
Since May, stocks of companies that have spent the most buying back their shares have performed even worse than the S&P 500 index. That comes after buyback stocks outperformed the S&P 500 each year since 2007, according to data compiled by Bloomberg.

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Here's a few more of my favorite women pop rockers.. .

Tina You better

Another side of Tina

So many great women artists and so little time..

One more..... Siouxsie!

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I'm on a roll

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Lenders extended low interest credit to wildcatters desperate for cash, then—perhaps remembering the 1980s oil bust—wheeled the debt off their books by selling new stocks and bonds to investors, earning sizable fees along the way. “Everyone in the chain was making money in the short term,” says Louis Meyer, a special situations analyst at Oscar Gruss & Son. “And no one was thinking long term about what they’re going to do if prices fall.”
North American oil and gas producers have sold $61.5 billion in equity and debt since January, paying more than $700 million in fees, according to data compiled by Bloomberg. Half the money was raised to repay loans or restructure debt, the data show.

Borrowing money to pay old loans is called Ponzi.

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Everyone thinks they have the best dog, and none of them are wrong.

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Oh yeah, I am from another planet out of times bygone. But I still love these songs.
Otherwise I have only favorite man singers... Smile

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an Edith Piaf as she is so great. I was going for pop and rock women. I was musing on visual art by women throughout history they are literally anonymous until pretty recently. I'm an big fan of 20th century popular pop 'fine' art. I love Andy Warhol, Liechtenstein, Ed Ruscha and these days street artists like Banksy, Shepard Fairey and co. I was trying to think of women visual artists of the pop ilk and decided that rock and rolling women were more prevalent. Women on a literary level, writers are a strong presence in our time. So anyway I just decided to feature my own times bygone of women who rocked me. I tried to focus on strong musical women who excelled on their own write in my life and met the criteria of being 'pop' whatever that is. I love these women you posted. Early Joan Baez is still one of my favorites. I also love Joni Mitchell but stuck to the pop charts of mass consumption sort of. My granddaughter a Francophile loves Edith Piaf. Everything old is new again. We recently watched a movie called 'La Vie en rose' which was about Edith Piaf's life. If you haven't seen it, I highly recommend it. I don't usually like movies about musician's or any artists lives but this one was great!

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a peasant compared to it. I just posted what I remembered from my highschool and student years, there are more of course. I had a strange life. The arts and music were completely not present for a long, long time in my thirties to fifties. I just recently come back to it and those songs made me actually cry, because I remembered the times when I used to listen to them. I remember having read a bio of Edit Piaf back then and I was very taken to heart by it. She was such a strong, small woman and had so much hard times. A strong fighter in her own way. I will look out for the movie. Thanks for posting.

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...compared to Joan Baez. Amazingly different, makes me think.

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Don't really have the courage
To stand where I must stand.
Don't really have the temperament
To lend a helping hand.

Don't really know who sent me
To raise my voice and say:
May the lights in The Land of Plenty
Shine on the truth some day.

I don't know why I've come here,
Knowing as I do,
What you really think of me,
What I really think of you.

For the millions in the prison,
That wealth has set apart -
For the Christ who has not risen,
From the caverns of the heart -

For the innermost decision,
That we cannot but obey
For what's left of our religion,
I lift my voice and pray:
May the lights in The Land of Plenty
Shine on the truth some day.

I know I said I'd meet you,
I'd meet you at the store,
But I can't buy it, baby.
I can't buy it anymore.

And I don't really know who sent me,
To raise my voice and say:
May the lights in The Land of Plenty
Shine on the truth some day.

For the innermost decision
That we cannot buy obey
For what's left of our religion
I lift my voice and pray:
May the lights in The Land of Plenty
Shine on the truth some day.

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is also good. Among its manifold charms, it unravels all the great mysteries, penetrates to the very core of things, and shares with all The Answer.

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I kinda thinka that I know whadda ya doing here... Wink

It's good and he is speaking of sticking pins in the voodoo doll ... ok, I better call it a day now and go to sleep now, not to forget to check for the voodoo dolls under the pillow. Smile

He is very charming indeed in this special performance.

Well my friends are gone and my hair is grey
I ache in the places where I used to play
And Im crazy for love but Im not coming on
Im just paying my rent every day
Oh in the tower of song

I said to hank williams: how lonely does it get?
Hank williams hasnt answered yet
But I hear him coughing all night long
A hundred floors above me
In the tower of song

I was born like this, I had no choice
I was born with the gift of a golden voice
And twenty-seven angels from the great beyond
They tied me to this table right here
In the tower of song

So you can stick your little pins in that voodoo doll
Im very sorry, baby, doesnt look like me at all
Im standing by the window where the light is strong
Ah they dont let a woman kill you
Not in the tower of song

Now you can say that Ive grown bitter but of this you may be sure
The rich have got their channels in the bedrooms of the poor
And theres a mighty judgement coming, but I may be wrong
You see, you hear these funny voices
In the tower of song

I see you standing on the other side
I dont know how the river got so wide
I loved you baby, way back when
And all the bridges are burning that we might have crossed
But I feel so close to everything that we lost
Well never have to lose it again

Now I bid you farewell, I dont know when Ill be back
There moving us tomorrow to that tower down the track
But youll be hearing from me baby, long after Im gone
Ill be speaking to you sweetly
From a window in the tower of song
Yeah my friends are gone and my hair is grey
I ache in the places where I used to play
And Im crazy for love but Im not coming on
Im just paying my rent every day
Oh in the tower of song

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the lyrics generally get best, when they run off the page. As in the above tune. From 5:15 on. To the "end."

As for the section you bolded: in truth the Tower of Song, it is above neck-deep, in the corpsely wisps of male shades, more or less snuffed out of earthly life by an inability to successfully settle into compatible orbit with three-fold wimmins, both earthly, and otherwise.

Cohen, in this song, is just trying a charm—not, for him, the first, or even the seventy-first—hoping to deflect such a fate striking he. So far, he's been successful. So far. ; )

All the best, they have all the best, problems.

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Chrissie Hynde.

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Kind of an unexpectedly right Annie Lennox.

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Kind of an essential Nina Simone.

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