MO/KFS wants to help out. Please help THEM help US here on c99p!
FYI, MO has been leading an effort over on KFS to gather support over there to help c99p in an hour of need. She wrote:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Kossacks_for_Sanders/comments/4xl6dc/please_sup...
I would also like to invite ALL caucus99percent members who have a KFS account to share their reasons why this community should support their site! Please comment below and make your plug to our membership who may not be familiar with your site!
So I wanted to let folks here know of this particular opportunity to help out c99p. Please come on over to Kossacks_for_Sanders and give your pitch to reddit users on KFS about c99p. Tell those who are not familiar with it what a special place c99p is!
Mo also asked that I share my comment on that post with the rest of the c99p community:
I think of c99 as the twin sister for KFS, and have loved having the opportunity to both
- write essays using what I think are better formatting options available there (such as embedding images and video clips) and
- read such essays from other members.
Many, many brilliant authors post many, many brilliant essays on a wide range of topics. I think the cream of the crop of writers from Daily Kos migrated over to c99 and embraced it as their new platform.
I think of The Progressive Wing as the little sister in our family. Some folks migrated over there. But the bottom line is, if you like the tone of KFS and you appreciate the thoughtful discussion that you find here, you will find more of the same over on c99. And if you are more of a reader/lurker rather than a writer, you might find that you even prefer the c99 environment to what you find here on KFS. c99 is a very worthy cause. Please help if you can!
MO had envisioned that KFS (/reddit) could/would become an aggregator site (much like the Huffington Post) that would enable all of us refugees to keep in touch with each other because reddit has an "add link" function that makes it very easy to point to other articles published elsewhere on the web. And in addition, a kind of win/win situation would be created because links posted on KFS could/would drive traffic/eyeballs over to the various corners of the Internet, wherever Kossack refugees had ultimately chosen to settle. Every time that the author of an essay on c99p takes the time to go to KFS(/reddit) and use the "add link" function, they are not only creating an advertisement for their essay, they are also creating an advertisement for c99p itself. Those links enable new users who join KFS to become familiar with the awesome content and authors that are available on c99p! Please think about that, and don't be shy about coming over and addling links to KFS: such action is a win/win for all of us. It connects interested readers with the fabulous content that they are desperately looking to find. Does that make sense?
And as those reddit users realize the value that this environment and community offers, they will become more willing to do what is necessary to support it. In other words, it's a WIN/WIN for everyone concerned! And last but not least, I think it will also increase the likelihood of old friends finding the chance to bump into each other and say hi more frequently. That's actually the very best reason of all ...
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I asked M_O over there what she thought
the overlap between the two sites was in terms of aims, objectives and vision.
She said that she didn't know that much about this site.
Since I'm not particularly eloquent, nor do I have the time to write a deeply philosophical essay, perhaps someone here (gjohnsit? Steven_D?) could, if they were so inclined.
That might -- eventually -- lead to a mutual understanding. The "splittism" among the Left webs (KfS, SfP, C99, TPV, etc.) --isnt it a problem?
Or are the miniscule differences a la Peoples Front vs Front Populaire truly insurmountable?
There are known knowns; there are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns – the ones we don't know we don't know.
I think that MO has not hung out here because of time
KFS kind of became her baby, and so she's pretty much spent most of her time over there to help the baby grow up. And so she didn't really feel that she knew enough about the vibe over here to really comment.
I agree with you, I think that the "splittism" is a problem. We are stronger together. It was nice when we were all together over at TOP, until we realized that we all needed to go elsewhere. Survival was everyone's number one desire at that point I think. Maybe it's time to think more about how we can unify a bit. I think that reddit and c99 naturally complement each other. Maybe if more authors and commenters embedded cross-links to the other location, there would be a commingling that would come to feel pretty normal. It took me awhile to adjust to the feel of each place, but now it all feels normal to me. But I haven't spent too much time over at TPW, which is another part of "our" community too. And now there is also WotB over on reddit too ... We need to find ways to unify I think, but it's not clear exactly how we get there, IMHO.
~OaWN
Are we sure about that?
I go back and forth on this myself. It's concerning after seeing such splits in lefty groups IRL over a few decades, but this still feels like a community to me. Maybe it's not such a bad thing having several smaller groups within that community, each geared to slightly different emphasis? Clearly, we can still pull together, as evidenced by the show of support for C99 today.
Interesting comment,
But I'm still concerned about the popular Judean front vs Judean Peoples Front bit (ref: Life of Brian).
Not to forget "blessed be the cheesemakers ..."
There are known knowns; there are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns – the ones we don't know we don't know.
I just think that we are stronger together
IMHO, if we are all one big tribe, there is nothing wrong with a subtribe to form and hang out together, which is kind of what I think happened after the exodus. IMHO, subtribes have formed. I think that in such a situation, the subtribes tend to think of themselves as a new tribe unto themselves. It is human nature. It is not really right or wrong, it just is. At the moment, c99 is a strong community, albeit a community in distress for other reasons. Splittism is hurting other subtribes right now, the ones over on reddit, and that breaks my heart.
When we pull together, we are much stronger than when we don't, I think. And I'm not sure what the answer is to "Am I my brother's keeper?" The kind of flippent answer that was essentially given by Cain, i.e. NO, had always made my blood run cold. I think the correct answer is YES. I think we need to be aware of the needs of our brothers, and try to take care of them as best we can. Just my 0.02 of course.
~OaWN
Especially since Cain had just killed Abel and was playing dumb
He might as well have said, “I came, I saw, he died!” and cackled with glee in the interviewer’s (i.e. G~d’s) face.
Thank you, OaWN and MO!
What a great idea. We sure appreciate the support!
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My pleasure, ec. I'm very fond of this place too.
And I always love to run into the old gang!
~OaWN
Very interesting perspective
I joined the KfS group when I got tired of TOP, but it didn't feel comfortable or familiar like this site does, so I never settled in there. I'm generally a homebody, and don't contribute to more than one site.
The online ecological balance has changed since Markos' latest purge, just as it changed after all the other ones. Thank you for explaining the purpose of the Reddit sites -- it makes a lot more sense to me now.
Please help support caucus99percent!
Yikes, comment below was for you DallasDoc
I seem to always make that mistake
~OaWN
I think that everyone prefers different User Interfaces
c99 and KFS were both so VERY DIFFERENT from TOP, it was disorienting at first. And in addition, they were/are both so different from each other. I spent a lot of time in the beginning over on KFS because I was overwhelmed by what was going on, and coming up to speed on a strange new environment. And I resented having to do it, which wasn't anyone's fault here of course, but once I found my bearing on KFS I just wanted to "relax" and "play" a bit. And maybe that colored me somehow, I do seem to like KFS a lot and so I hang out there - I like the vibe of how you interact with others: when you get a reply, you know about it quickly and easily, and then it's easy to reply to that person and keep the conversation going. And it's also very easy to have multiple conversations going to, in fact it's better than what was over at TOP I think. c99 is actually a bit clunky that way in comparison, although some of the enhancements made it much better.
It is a bit of pain to flip between multiple sites, and I would prefer to have just one place to go ... but on the other hand, I also want to support progressive voices and hate to see any good sites fail. The hard part is coming up to speed on a new environment that has a much different look and feel, but in the end it wasn't so hard. If people were interested in trying KFS out a bit more, I could probably try to put together a cheat sheet or something, or maybe launch a "cheat sheet" diary where the oldsters could try to share what they know in order to help people come up to speed more quickly.
You're very welcome for the explanation. It hadn't really occurred to me that others were wondering about the other sites too, but of course that makes sense now that I think about it. I do know that TPW is pretty much a black hole to me, and that's not by choice or anything it just kind of worked out that way. There were a lot of good folks that went over there too ...
~OaWN
Exactly so.
As others , I got comfortable with the DK UI. This place is different, and Reddit is even stranger, though I try to contribute everywhere.
Why would I do that? Because as a non-American, I feel that I have a perspective that may help.
If it does, I'm grateful.
If not, well, that's only my opinion and I shan't get all troubled by that.
There are known knowns; there are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns – the ones we don't know we don't know.
You may also fairly ask,
Why should a Canadian care?
Short and sweet answer, and look up Lester B. Pearson, Nobel Laureate (Peace):
Mouse. Elephant.
There are known knowns; there are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns – the ones we don't know we don't know.
tapu dali, the Ontarians I have known had a fascination
with American politics during the Harper years. Unfortunately some seemed to have great interest in HRC. It would be worth re-visiting with them to see if they were closeted Republicans (?, can't recall Canadian parties now) or saw a trainwreck coming.
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The Harper Conservatives who were mainly
concentrated in Western Canada (Alberta Cruzites) were all in for W and the ME wars.
Ontarians are a mixed bunch: the large cities (Toronto, Hamilton, London and Ottawa) are largely Liberal (left-centre) with a good smattering of NDP (Tommy Douglas social democrats: think a leftier Bernie).
Rural Ontario is historically Conservative (though traditionally "Progressive-Conservative" [also called "Red Tories", where "red" is in the European sense of left-wing, so think Roosevelt, Eisenhower, etc.]).
Northern Ontario (Aboroginal) constituencies are heavily NDP.
Mind you, there are very few 'safe' seats in Canada, outside of a few rural constituencies in Alberta and BC. My own riding has elected PC, Lib and NDP over the last 12 or so years, and even the Greens have been not been an illegitimate contender.
As you know, there are no "national" or even "province-wide" offices up for election. We vote for our own Parliamentary representative: the Party with the most seats in Parliament forms the Government and the Party leader (who also has to be elected as an MP) becomes Prime Minister.
You may ask, what happens if the Leader fails to win his own seat? That has happened to both Diefenbaker and Pearson and to Opposition leaders as well.
Then, it is normal for an MP in a "safe" seat to resign and have the Leader run in a by-election.
I know, Parliamentary systems are quite unlike a "republican" concept of governmental organization
There are known knowns; there are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns – the ones we don't know we don't know.
I think Liberals and NDP win my riding.
If I were clueful and a citizen, I think I would have voted NDP last time.
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And so did I , almost w/o fail
except one year I voted Green, mainly because my NDPer was too willing to collaborate w/the Libs: in fact, she even said that should the Libs win the election, she wold "cross the floor" (literally) and become a Cabinet Minister were it to be offered.
Not liking that overly much, I voted Green.
There are known knowns; there are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns – the ones we don't know we don't know.
Just added my cross post at AmericanSpring (KfS).
MO is a true friend it seems. Here is the thread at the old Kossacks for Sanders now known as AmericanSpring.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Kossacks_for_Sanders/comments/4xl6dc/please_sup...
They have had some bumps, pretty big ones this week too. Everyone is struggling to find a blog home and to keep the objectives of more progressives in government going. How we approach it and how we get there are not always the same path, but it looks like the goals are the same.
If you are on Reddit, please know that there has been true soul searching to redefine their way, and MO has come back despite an over full plate (where have we seen this behavior?) to help re establish the course for the site. Please go over to the old Kossacks_for_Sanders site and post links from here.
And she is giving this site full access to its reach. I have thanked her too.
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I just added to KfS, too
And I am now logged in at KfS, c99 and have an account at TPW. It's nice having old home weekend. I just said Hello to former associates, and reminded that Battle lines are Being Drawn, and that we have much in common, including membership by Venn Diagram.
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