insulated from the real world by lots of money. She's always had that, aggravated by hitching her wagon to a rising political star and getting the further isolation that comes with high office. She knows less about how people really live than George H.W. Bush.

What's worse is, she doesn't really care, and her efforts to pretend that she does ring insincere and hollow.

Add possible brain dysfunction on top of that (because no bubble-isolation, no matter how total, results in the weird physical reactions seen in those circulating clips) and this is not someone you should want warming the chair in the Oval Office.

Not that I want The Rump doing it either.

You have exhibited non-elastic views before, we could all use more elasticity or plasticity in our opinions and comments. I gave you fair waning of catty comments but you took offense. I do not come here to make anger but to make thought and conversation. Have a nice evening.

How fascinating.

It's amazing what one misses when one is gone for just a few days. To think I could've had conniptions over the pipe-dreams of two such upstanding members of our national diagnostic community.

[An aside: I knew Billy Frist personally in my youth. He was always more impressed with himself than he deserved to be, but others back then fed that particular puffery, too. The thing is, he thoroughly enjoyed the swelling of his ego. No perspective at all. It was never going to end entirely well.]

I think I'll go back to what I was doing the past few days for just a mite longer.

this has to be explained and justified to folk, even discussing the possibility.

Seriously? Why would I entertain such a possibility even if I did approve of her otherwise? Come on! The expectation of full physical capacity is something they would hide and did hide. And I want to say there's at least one President where something afflicted his mental capacity after he was already in office, and of course, this is what "contingency plans" are all about, and of course they proceeded to apply on some level. Because there they were, they were already in it.

But before they take the job? Full mental capacity is a reasonable expectation going in. Isn't it? How can anyone deny that?

as it is the fact that this can be questioned at all.

If there is a question about any medical condition that could affect the candidate's mental ability to fulfill her duties of the office, do you believe people should know about that before they vote?

I think whatever is wrong medically with Her Heinous, they will brush it under the rug. All it takes is one doctor willing to declare her fit for the Presidency.

I also have stated elsewhere that I think this is not something to spend a lot of time on, because since we can't prove anything, people will just feel sorrier for her being "picked on". She might pick up a few sympathy votes. And I don't particularly care whether she, Bill, or Tim Kaine is the real President (I don't want any of them).

But none of this is CT (conspiracy theory). All it takes is her determination to move forward no matter what, and her ability to find one doctor willing to go along with her (while any others she consults must remain silent or go to jail according to HIPAA).

An eight year old can tell from the video it's a reaction to having too many people around one at once. A normal reaction. Now if you want to make the case that it proves Hillary lives in a isolated bubble and to used to having people kept at a distance from rope offs and such, that would be fine.
But to take this video and extrapolate a medical seizure is a total joke, sorry to be harsh. In fact I find it down right embarrassing that I am a member here today.

it doesn't take rocket science or expertise in epilepsy to see the obvious. The only thing this video proves is Hillary is uncomfortable with so many people so close to her.

where speech and cognition were both affected. You could not totally tell she was having one just by looking, but there could be somewhat of a blank stare at times. These were when she was medicated, without meds she'd have had grand mals. She would not be able to answer you while having one and did not understand or remember what you had said after it was over. There was also an emotional component, as it was highly frustrating and scary for her when she had one.

And that video of Shillary with those reporters and their looks of shock at how she was moving her head makes me think Shillary is having some type of episode. Maybe these are temporary and are part of whatever condition she has or has had, but I still think she needs to explain that. Yes, we'll never get that from her as to do that would make her look weak and old, and that isn't a real positive when running for POTUS. But to say this doesn't have any bearing on her ability to do that job is pretty simplistic to say. I've seen what my mother went through, and thankfully for her she never had one of her episodes out in public or while driving a car - but she could have, and stress made hers a lot worse than they would be without the stress. And I don't think this keeps Shillary from doing the job, but it will mean she will have be aware of her limitations, something I don't see her being able to do very well.

Something to laugh about?

No, no it's not. There are many types of seizures.

OMFG, the woman is running for President.

This is unbelievable, that people are so adamant that this should not be discussed.

tardive dyskinesia, thus producing similar symptoms to the ones they are supposed to be suppressing. (Not a pharmacist, but I read the fine print on the information packet that comes with my partner's anti-Parkinsons pills.)

It's still impossible to say "I'm not a doctor" without someone saying "but I play one on TV." I was tempted myself but resisted.

Supposedly that's debatable, but we didn't have the Internet then, so who knew, until much, much later? Had we known, would we have voted for him? I daresay, possibly not. Back then, not a lot was known about the disease, and that would have concerned voters. As it should!

And yes, agreed! There should be no question going in, before the election, of any candidate's mental acuity. This situation must be fully-disclosed, so people can make a determination of their vote with as many facts as possible at their disposal. I think my initial reference was with you feeling like you had to claim "I am not a doctor" up front, none of us should have to do that, it's perfectly reasonable for us to want to know, and to even share anecdotal experience! But re-reading it, perhaps it gave (indirectly) the impression that I disagreed with your bigger point, absolutely not!