Saying goodbye to what was once an old friend
You know what I'm talking about.
You once were close and had lots of laughs, but you grew apart. You got together less often.
And then one day you noticed that your old friend was saying some embarrassingly stupid and offensive things. So you started suggested getting together in places where your new friends wouldn't run into you, because you still liked talking about the Old Dayz.
But your old friend kept getting dumber, and you noticed that your get-togethers often ended in arguments. Still you kept meeting him out of habit.
Finally you could no longer deny that you had nothing in common with him anymore. It was time to cut the cord.
That's how I feel about both the GOS and the Democratic Party.
The transition of the Democrats to the NeoCon War Party is the last straw for me.
Full disclosure, I haven't voted Democratic since 1992. I just cheered for them because they sometimes got things right. Now they appear even worse in some ways.
I'm going to go through my old diaries and delete them, because the GOS and Democratic Party are one and the same, and I can't morally support either.
Most of them are dated, but some are timeless historical essays which I'd like to cross-post if no one minds.
Comments
Go for it.
Cross post away. I like reading your stuff. I usually learn something, unless I'm being particularly obtuse. I used to go back to lof for c&j. Been done for awhile. I don't really know when I stopped going back?!?
Oh well.
Ya got to be a Spirit, cain't be no Ghost. . .
Explain Bldg #7. . . still waiting. . .
If you’ve ever wondered whether you would have complied in 1930’s Germany,
Now you know. . .
sign at protest march
... yup, Gofer it --
When Cicero had finished speaking, the people said “How well he spoke”.
When Demosthenes had finished speaking, the people said “Let us march”.
Yes please repost here. nt
There are known knowns; there are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns – the ones we don't know we don't know.
And those that you don't cross post save anyway.
Sometimes we can glean some profound personal insights from reading thoughts that we expressed while under a different mindset or belief.
So, if nothing else save them to a personal wordpress page or something for your own personal future reference.
To me, deleting writing, especially from someone who has put out so many great thought provoking pieces in the past as you have, is too close to book burning in my opinion.
I have a deep and abiding love for the written word, even those that I disagree with.
So I encourage you to purge your stuff from that shitty place, but don't purge it from existence. Who knows, you might want to go back and read it in the future and find it worth re-using after a bit of updating/editing.
If nothing else, it may be worth keeping just for nostalgia, kinda like an old diary, so in a few years you can read it and see how much your perceptions have shifted, grown or otherwise changed.
"I used to vote Republican & Democrat, I also used to shit my pants. Eventually I got smart enough to stop doing both things." -Me
What Alphalop said
Even if you consider them dated, there's probably knowledge in them that will be informative the next time that situation happens. And rest assured there will be a next time.
Meddle not in the affairs of Dragons - For thou art crunchy and good with ketchup
Not sure how
Is it possible to move a diary over here including the all comments? Sometimes the comments were almost as informative as a diary, if not more so.
Meddle not in the affairs of Dragons - For thou art crunchy and good with ketchup
You could cut and paste, or take screenshots
I don't know of any easy ways.
But you're right, I like to see old info saved too.
Check with the bosses here before doing too much work, I would recommend.
I do save everything on my hard drive and backup that I upload to the Internet - well, not comments, but diaries, yep. Just in case the Internet messes up.
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Requires a software tool (typically a quick-and-dirty “script”)
that is capable of recognizing elements in the old website’s HTML, extracting their content, and then repackaging the content in an element syntax the current Drupal platform will accept.
Oookay then
That sounds like it's way beyond my capabilities.
Thanks for the info though.
Meddle not in the affairs of Dragons - For thou art crunchy and good with ketchup
Always love yours
please do post them! And you always provide great links for them.
Only a fool lets someone else tell him who his enemy is. Assata Shakur
How does one delete essays on Kos?
I'm not computer savvy and I tried but failed to delete much of my old account there.
-Greed is not a virtue.
-Socialism: the radical idea of sharing.
-Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.
John F. Kennedy, In a speech at the White House, 1962
My approach is to right click, highlight & hit delete.
I'm pretty sure if you go into edit your diary, there is a place to at least unpublish if not delete.
"Religion is what keeps the poor from murdering the rich."--Napoleon
After unpublish you can delete
If I understand it correctly
You can delete your essays, but not your account.
Do I hear the sound of guillotines being constructed?
“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~ President John F. Kennedy
They can have my account
It's the content that matters.
gjohnsit...
Been reading you for years over there and here.
Just glad you here.
Along with the rest of the crew. Jeez, that place sucks.
Gëzuar!!
from a reasonably stable genius.
Salvage em Here. What I did for my best.
Venues change, but the good bands don't play Gin Joints.
I do not pretend I know what I do not know.
... hey -- The Dead played the Cow Palace
on many occasions. A "gin joint"?? bring it on!!
When Cicero had finished speaking, the people said “How well he spoke”.
When Demosthenes had finished speaking, the people said “Let us march”.
I can set up...
a separate page if you'd like, just for your archives. It can work with tags. Let's say I set it up to use the tag gj-archives, or some such, then any essay with that tag will publish both to the Community Content page and your archive page.
There will probably be a couple dozen worth saving
and I don't want to take over community content.
It'll probably take several weeks to do this.
I'd have to check into it...
but I think it can be set up to publish to your archive page only, bypassing the CC page.
I'd Like that as well JtC
Whenever I get around to it.
"You can't just leave those who created the problem in charge of the solution."---Tyree Scott
Send me a PM...
when you're ready Steve.
Hey JtC --
THX for taking such good care of everybody here. I promise to contribute again to the site when I can afford to (soon, I hope - when some invoices come in. We're ALL in the "gig economy" now, whether we recognize it or not --)
When Cicero had finished speaking, the people said “How well he spoke”.
When Demosthenes had finished speaking, the people said “Let us march”.
JtC is James Tiberius cKirk, I tells ya! No, really! He iz! n/t
Take your time
I started the process, and it's going to be a while.
Sort of like when I converted my 300 vinyl records to mp3's.
Yes. Please post anew your TOP diaries.
"I can't understand why people are frightened of new ideas. I'm frightened of the old ones."
John Cage
Lately, whenever I think of Kos
I think of the first line of "Rebecca" by Daphne Du Maurier:
"Last night I dreamt I went to Manderley again"
It's the memory of a nice mansion I once lived in which burnt down.
I enjoyed the experience for a number of years until it became toxic and stupid. I will say one thing- Daily Kos taught me to be a better writer. You could NOT get away with any diary about any substantive issue without doing research and providing sources and you had to be prepared to defend any conclusion you had arrived at based on your personal interpretation of those sources. So it was good training overall. It taught me to be more skeptical of other writers who make assertions or assumptions based on poor evidence, unless they clearly state something is their opinion or anecdotal. For those things I will always be thankful. If I miss anything, it's the book discussions which I really enjoyed both initiating and participating in.
What I don't miss is anonymous flags, swarming bullying behavior, hive mentality, and Party censorship for which the site has become a showcase laboratory.
I have no desire to be a participant over there again.
" “Human kindness has never weakened the stamina or softened the fiber of a free people. A nation does not have to be cruel to be tough.” FDR "
that Rebecca reference is perfect
just the right tone, longing for something that was precious and loved, but which turned into a hideous nightmare. Thank you for that!
Kos - a mansion filled with numerous Mrs. Danvers
housekeepers constantly whispering "You don't belong here. Why don't you jump .. .jump. . jump. .
So we listened.
" “Human kindness has never weakened the stamina or softened the fiber of a free people. A nation does not have to be cruel to be tough.” FDR "
lol, that's actually exactly what happened to me,
at the end of February. I made a statement about Her Royal Highness and was asked what I was doing there (been there since 2003) and basically asked to leave... so I did... lol. Not one comment since..> Rarely go over to there anymore.
Don't believe everything you think.
... and we JUMPED!
When Cicero had finished speaking, the people said “How well he spoke”.
When Demosthenes had finished speaking, the people said “Let us march”.
Phoebe,
I am so glad you came here. I have always appreciated your writing.
Do I hear the sound of guillotines being constructed?
“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~ President John F. Kennedy
Gulfgal, I saw so many of my favorite posters here
when I needed a refuge . I salute all the welcoming people here with kind hearts and open minds and humor and curiosity and you first of all, because you were the one inviting people to an open house.
" “Human kindness has never weakened the stamina or softened the fiber of a free people. A nation does not have to be cruel to be tough.” FDR "
I think it was one of GulfGal's responses at TOP to a poster
that was being gang piled on by the mean girls click over there that they check out C99P that led me here as well.
Yet another reason I love my Fellow Floridian GG, She tossed so many of us a lifeline before we even realized how badly our ship was hulled.
"I used to vote Republican & Democrat, I also used to shit my pants. Eventually I got smart enough to stop doing both things." -Me
Same here
I hadn't been around there much for some time. When I did go back, I felt like I'd wandered into the wrong house. I scanned the names of the diarists and didn't recognize a single one besides BiPM. This went on for days with me wondering out loud where the frick did everybody go?
Then GreyWolf posted a comment in a diary saying that many people had gone to someplace called C99P, and he had a link. I came, and there you all were - almost everybody I'd been missing.
Meddle not in the affairs of Dragons - For thou art crunchy and good with ketchup
Second that
Phoebe has long been one of my favorite writers, there and now here.
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The Rebecca reference is perfect and reminds me of another
I left the South - the bigots, the bullies and the Bab-dists like I was leaving a burning building long ago. They're everywhere now but the escape saved my sanity, if not my life.
I think most of my interminable Anthropology dissertation could really be boiled down to this word:
HIRAETH: (n.) a homesickness for a home to which you cannot return, a home which maybe never was; the nostalgia, the yearning, the grief for the lost places of your past.
And that is how I feel on my Demexit Day from the Democratic Party.
That word defines one of the most powerful emotions
I have ever heard of and never heard of. It explains like why people (like me) cry uncontrollably when they hear Danny Boy or Auld Lang Syne. Thank you.
" “Human kindness has never weakened the stamina or softened the fiber of a free people. A nation does not have to be cruel to be tough.” FDR "
I'm one also
Those two get me every time I hear them.
Smells can do the same. I keep an old bottle of Emeraude
Perfume, and have for years. And just for a few seconds every great while it will take me back to the absolutely happiest time of my life and back to my Great Grandparents. Certain cooking smells can do the same. Spare ribs and sauer kraut is one. Fresh baked kolaches or fresh picked cucumbers sitting in a big stone crock filled with pickling spices are a couple more.
What a wonderful word.
I'm tired of this back-slapping "Isn't humanity neat?" bullshit. We're a virus with shoes, okay? That's all we are. - Bill Hicks
Politics is the entertainment branch of industry. - Frank Zappa
Arroz con Pollo home made
For us it was more like chicken soup with rice & the minute I take a bite I'm a child again.
"Politics is not evil; politics is the human race's most magnificent achievement." Senator Tom Fries, 'Podkayne of Mars,' Robert Heinlein
So the premise driving the climax of the movie "Ratatouille"
is correct then? Where the food critic experiences a change of heart when a simple dish calls forth long-buried memories of his childhood?
Yup
Never saw it but I've made dishes where I remember how it felt when I ate it as a kid.
"Politics is not evil; politics is the human race's most magnificent achievement." Senator Tom Fries, 'Podkayne of Mars,' Robert Heinlein
Hmm — I wonder if I’m the last generation to remember
genuine bird’s nest soup, served at Chinese nine-course dinners in Honolulu when I was a wee lass.
never had it
but I saw a documentary that ahowed how they gather the nests. XP
"Politics is not evil; politics is the human race's most magnificent achievement." Senator Tom Fries, 'Podkayne of Mars,' Robert Heinlein
Hiraeth Similar To Portuguese Word Saudade
From wiki:
Please, Please do.
I have enjoyed your posts for years and was so happy that you, also, came here. Anything you can bring with you from TOP will be very welcome here.
you beat me
by a couple of months. I look in there maybe once a week for a short time now. It quickly became a boring place. I once said that I thought the site lost its soul when Ben Masel died.
We are not embracing a politics of envy if we reverse a politics of greed. - Joseph Stiglitz
Yes.
I miss Ben Masel too.
... Masel-tov
When Cicero had finished speaking, the people said “How well he spoke”.
When Demosthenes had finished speaking, the people said “Let us march”.
I look at your groups and GJ's and think, "Wow, look at all the
great stuff that won't be welcome there any more!"
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Don't forget to delete blog rolls, emails, groups
I didn't want them to have access to any of my stuff. poof!
"Religion is what keeps the poor from murdering the rich."--Napoleon
yes, please do post them...
i started working on moving my old diaries from there to here, but got distracted and just haven't gotten back to it. i found going through my old stuff kind of interesting and fun, seeing the ways that my opinions about things have changed over the years, the sorts of things that i know that i was thinking and avoided saying so as not to transgress the gos' rules, and what has remained constant.
i hope that you enjoy the process.
Good on ya brother.
Only you know when it's time.
"Ah, but I was so much older then, I'm younger than that now..."
Over 1500 diaries.......
Yeah that old friend just kept getting dumber and dumber.
FDR 9-23-33, "If we cannot do this one way, we will do it another way. But do it we will.
I was never much of a diarist there
I've already reposted my two recent ones, and there are probably half a dozen others I might want to bring over here sometime. But I also don't want to clutter up the Community Content list and push good essays off the first page.
Most of my contributions over there were in comment threads, the definition of an evanescent medium. I wouldn't even know how to begin to archive those.
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Well, Doc,
when you did write, boy did your write great diaries!
Do I hear the sound of guillotines being constructed?
“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~ President John F. Kennedy
I think they got better when I became more critical of Dems
But maybe that's just me. At least it gave me something to write about.
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you write some of the best comments - consistently -
I always see clearer after reading your analytical responses.
https://www.euronews.com/live
I often thought that your comments
superseded the diary that contained them.
It's true that it's close to impossible to contain them in context. The good news is that many times they didn't need context, they were stand alone brilliant without the framing of a conversation they existed in.
" “Human kindness has never weakened the stamina or softened the fiber of a free people. A nation does not have to be cruel to be tough.” FDR "
I decided from the first that my career was as a commenter
... and that the highest praise I could give an essayist was the best comment I could write. I hope to continue that career here with all the wonderful writers like you and gjohnsit who've found their way here.
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I tried, but never really felt welcome
By the way, is questioning the official version of 9/11 a bannable offense here?
“He may not have gotten the words out but the thoughts were great.”
bondibox, I hope you feel welcome here,
because c99p is a really unique place with lots of interesting people.
As for questioning the "official" narrative about 911 (whatever that is at any given time), question away! More than a few of us like to discuss "conspiracy theories" before TPTB reveal said theories to be actual truths.
As for what will get you banned here, there is only one Rule: Don't Be An Ass, or DBAA.
And from what I've seen, that Rule is enforced with compassion.
So, jump on in, join the conversations, and welcome to c99p!
Only connect. - E.M. Forster
Not at all. Wanna see? I’ll post some links . . .
http://www.ae911truth.org/
http://911blogger.com/news/2016-07-04/never-forget-lies-about-air-defens...
See? I’m still here. Nothing hap
[NO CARRIER]
[NO SIGNAL]
LoL! that made me snicker out loud so hard my dog jumped
and hit her head on the bottom of my desk!
My poor little girl, daddy now has to go and get her a cookie to make up for it.
I suspect she may start doing it on purpose now, she is a clever girl when it comes to figuring ways to get a treat out of me. Who can resist spoiling a dog that gives you "Eskimo kisses" because she knows I don't like having my face licked but love the way she comes up and taps her cold nose on mine or my forehead when she is happy.
If I want a kiss, all I gotta do is say, "Cookie?" or "Frisbee?". (Now if only my wife was that easy to get that kind of response from, lol!)
"I used to vote Republican & Democrat, I also used to shit my pants. Eventually I got smart enough to stop doing both things." -Me
No, but we might have a lot of fun with it.
Seems to me there's enough difference of opinion around here, you're likely to get everything from hearty agreement to derision. Be ready for controversy.
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The thing here is, expect “derision” to be kept on a short leash
Avoid personal barbs directed at the conversation partner. Avoid name-calling, bullying, gaslighting, or piling on.
Avoid emotional manipulation. Avoid playing on other people’s fears of rejection or general insecurity, whether on a conscious or subconscious level.
Even derision is expected to have substance. It should oppose what it is deriding in a factually supported way.
Attack the idea, not the person
By attack, I mean analyze a point of view on the merits, and provide facts or reasoning to support your argument. Good advice for anybody here.
Agreed. People around here can take a pretty hard line on the
issues from all sides, but it's always more polite than a lot of places on the Intertubez.
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Giving my reasons
You get one of these my friend....
[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CP6v4T3VT7I]
Kudos to you, well expressed, well expressed indeed.
"I used to vote Republican & Democrat, I also used to shit my pants. Eventually I got smart enough to stop doing both things." -Me
Seeing that "flag" button
Reminds me of how much I hate that whole abusive concept of flagging.
Beware the bullshit factories.
gjohnsit, I remember
when we first tried to start a new site and you were one of the first to join us back in the days when we were an email group. I was thrilled because you are such a great writer and were one of my favorites over at the other place. I quit going there on a regular basis a few months ago, but would occasionally check in so I could recommend your diaries over there.
I never had that many diaries over there, but have been too lazy to figure out how to save the ones that were really important to me. It is funny because I have been reading a lot lately about downsizing and de-cluttering. Letting go of that which makes you anxious about compromising your principles is a good thing. It is like letting go of a toxic relationship. Something I understand too well.
Good for you , my friend.
Do I hear the sound of guillotines being constructed?
“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~ President John F. Kennedy
Gosh, I always learn a ton from your diaries....so do it, if
u are so inclined. Glad you are here.
Don't believe everything you think.
Pull Them Together and Make a Book Out of Them. nt
“Tactics without strategy is the noise before defeat.” ~ Sun Tzu
Yes, gjohnsit and everyone! Consider making a book.
If finding a publisher seems an insurmountable barrier, self-publishing is also totally a viable business model now.
Each year, I see the international book fairs in Frankfurt and Leipzig hosting more and more self-publishing authors and their co-op or partnering arrangements.
Companies that supply platforms and tools for self-publishing — Amazon being only the biggest of many — are all over these fairs as well.
A c99p Anthology?
That could be an interesting project.
There are certainly some talented short-form writers here, most of whom are probably too shy, too busy, too ... one thing or another to.consider putting together their own book, but . . .
What if we made a joint project of it? A get-out-the-word project, beyond the confines of these pixels on a screen? Put it in libraries everywhere! We could do this.
As for self-publishing, I would be willing to bet we could crowd-fund a limited run of a real-world paperback of illuminations and subversions.
Does the idea of The c99p Anthology (Vol. 1) appeal to anyone else? I know I'd buy several copies, one for myself and several to donate to local libraries.
Only connect. - E.M. Forster
Oh that is BRILLIANT!!!
I am an amateur writer (Both fiction and non-fiction) and would love to be part of such a project.
We could call it, "Letters from a progressive nation." or some such.
We could even turn it into an annual or semi annual series.
Self publishing is very easy these days.
I'll help with the writing if we can get a skilled editor or two to help.
The more I think about this idea the more I like it, we could even approach individual authors from other progressive blogs and such to see if they would be ok with us including their writings or comments.
This could turn out to be both a fun and informative project!
"I used to vote Republican & Democrat, I also used to shit my pants. Eventually I got smart enough to stop doing both things." -Me
sorry it's come to this but look forward to your time here
there's just not enough international stuff at TOP and your stuff was important for keeping that stuff in perspective
@eState4Column5
DK? Kos? GOS? TOP? whazzat?
I seem to remember something like that, but I wiped my "server" with a cloth and can't really remember all that much. But I am told that there is still some gold hidden under the growing sediment of shit in that far away and deepening swamp. Bravo to those willing to pan the gold and bring it to a new home for progressive thinkers.
Also, noticing the time of the commentaries, we are a group of insomniacs! Maybe a unifying trait?
There are some great writers there
Including many of the old guard who don't write about politics and whom I miss. That's the only reason I ever, anonymously, check on the SOB (Site of Betrayal).
Beware the bullshit factories.
Ha! Reminds me of the intro to the old “Colossal Cave” adventure
ID 16365
it was nice while it lasted. i don't know why it took me so long to remove myself but i guess i stayed there because there was no place else to go. kind of like Bill Clinton's opinion of progressives. i bought into the "more and better" and, consequently, stayed twelve years too long. thank heavens for the Ides of March edict to finally realize i don't belong there.
Please cross-post here.
Where it's safe from the pod people.
Beware the bullshit factories.
I went over there for a nostalgic look at your last diary for
them. As usual, many commenters are far from kind. That was a good informative article too. Sigh.
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Hey, bring them on over, I've got a few of mine I'm planning on
eventually putting here.
That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --
I'm thinking of
going through my old articles too. Most of them are on daily kos. I'm going to back them up on my hard drives, but I'm also planning on sort of reworking some material. I wrote a bunch of separate articles about how Hollywood was intimidated by the red scare. They were written about separate incidents, and different people and how they were effected. I'd like to put them together in context.
I'm still thinking of how I'll do it.