HRC Receives Gift Horse, Administers Extensive Dental Exam

If I were an aide-de-camp to Hillary Clinton, I would be tugging on her sleeve at the moment and whispering into her ear that she is standing at the precipice of a giant logic volcano and about to throw herself in.

I am referring to the fact that instead of hiring Tony Robbins to conduct coal walking and team building exercises for her campaign workers, she is now focused on using the entire professional staff of the State Department as human shields for her own poor judgements and actions.

Hillary, sometimes the best course of action is to simply vacate a battlefield and move onto to other skirmishes. Mourn your dead and wounded (like your judgement and your credibility) drink to their memories, but don't hang around and haunt the scene of your defeat, and for heavens sake, don't create even more carcasses by re-enacting your Waterloo yet again and tossing in more troops to sacrifice on the altar of your vanity and hubris.

To what am I referring, you may ask. I am referring to these mind-blowing stories that are appearing that report that Hillary Clinton, despite receiving the greatest gift of all, freedom from the fear of indictment, is turning on her benefactor, FBI Director James Comey and implying that the person displaying the impaired reasoning and decision making in regards to characterizing her actions as exceptional carelessness, is him. She then deflects the limelight from herself to all those government worker bees that she relied on to do the right thing and not disseminate classified materials when communicating with her:

Hillary Rejects FBI Claim That She Was "careless" With Emails - NYT

“I think there are about 300 people in the government, mostly in the State Department, but in other high positions in the government with whom I emailed over the course of four years — they, I believe, did not believe they were sending any material that was classified,” Mrs. Clinton said on CNN. “They were pursuing their responsibilities. I do not think they were careless.”

She added, “And as I have said many times, I certainly did not believe that I received or sent any material that was classified.”

Noble Hillary! Defending the actions of those she drew into her own web of incompetence and malfeasance. How were her underlings supposed to communicate with her except for the unique system she herself set-up, despite the fact that it was insecure and unapproved and violated the guidelines that she herself sent out to all the little people to not do as she did? Instead of setting an example of highest and best practices, she herself was a font of the corruption of standard practices. The FBI director noted that there was a corporate culture of laxness when it came to security procedures in the State Department - Gee, who do you think was leading the way?

And look at how Hillary is setting herself up as the victim - she relied on those underlings to do the right thing! She thought they were professional! She is also sending the message to those career staffers - If the Big Cheese goes down, so do all the smaller wheels. Now that's how to build loyalty.

But here is the real factoid that is pushing Hillary over the logic precipice - she is appearing to say that to this day, she is still maintaining that she did not (does not) believe that she sent any material that was classified. Doesn't the fact that a criminal referral was made to the FBI indicate otherwise? How about the information that not only was some of the material was classified, it was classified at the very highest levels and even as we speak is not available to the public or even to Congress? Should that be a clue that she is 100% wrong and that in maintaining this fiction, she is making herself out to be either delusional or incapable of admitting that she made a mistake, a very serious mistake, but one which the FBI was very magnanimously willing to overlook and to continue to allow her to walk among us?

How is it possible that HRC's self image is so fragile that she has to continue to market this persona of infallibility? If she remains unable to discern the very highest level of classified material up through today, what basis is there for believing she will be able to recognize it as President in the future?

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lunachickie's picture

that if she's so vain and sits for hours, reading online of all the stories and all the people, full of hate for her and what she represents, that maybe she's gone around the bend, mentally. Reading that she's on the attack after she got this extraordinary gift from a government that is starting to look like it fears her very presence, makes me wonder, sincerely, about her sanity.

See, if I read all this shit and it was all about me and people hated me that much, I'd just shut down and go away. Yet here she is. It just boggles the mind. When she's done with that dental exam, she's gonna beat that horse to death with a 2 x 4, and then she'll blame all the animal rights people for not stopping her.

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that HRC is displaying right now in re-litigating whether she made some errors with regards to her email usage - I'm saying she is going down the completely wrong path - blaming others and maintaining a provably wrong defense that no classified material appeared on her server.

She'd be a lot better of showing some humility and saying something like, "I did use some poor judgement, but I've learned from this experience, as I said I made a mistake and I hope we all can move along." Something like that would move the ball into better territory for her. Instead, she is calcifying into the candidate who can't admit any personal wrongdoing and is attempting to lay it at the door of others. That's not generally considered to be indicative of good leadership, IMO. She's inviting others to re-litigate along with her, and that will be to her detriment.

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" “Human kindness has never weakened the stamina or softened the fiber of a free people. A nation does not have to be cruel to be tough.” FDR "

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...and the way both things make sense is that this behavior is sociopathic. I think we see it time and again. There is no other way to make sense of it in my estimation. A sociopath can spew this sort of crap and their heart rates won't go up and they won't perspire like regular folks. They get off on conning others and getting away with it. It appears that for her, it is not enough that she's above the law and can get away with anything, but that those who see it for what it is are force-fed the crap they see her doing (if she could get away with executing her enemies, I believe she might well attempt it - this is one un-hinged individual).

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'What we are left with is an agency mandated to ensure transparency and disclosure that is actually working to keep the public in the dark' - Ann M. Ravel, former FEC member

if she could get away with executing her enemies, I believe she might well attempt it

Could you take a moment to explain the basis of your doubt. I think she MIGHT allow a quick and painless execution if she were having a really good day.

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supporters. Clinton Cognitive Dissonance Syndrome, of which there apparently is no cure. She is a sociopath for sure and hopefully it will get the best of her before she gets into the oval office.

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"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." - JFK | "The more I see of the moneyed peoples, the more I understand the guillotine." - G. B. Shaw Bernie/Tulsi 2020

Clintons, both of them, are psychopaths. They certainly fit the description.

A key difference between a psychopath and a sociopath is whether he has a conscience, the little voice inside that lets us know when we’re doing something wrong, says L. Michael Tompkins, EdD. He's a psychologist at the Sacramento County Mental Health Treatment Center. A psychopath doesn’t have a conscience. If he lies to you so he can steal your money, he won’t feel any moral qualms, though he may pretend to. He may observe others and then act the way they do so he’s not “found out,” Tompkins says.
A sociopath typically has a conscience, but it’s weak. He may know that taking your money is wrong, and he might feel some guilt or remorse, but that won’t stop his behavior.
Both lack empathy, the ability to stand in someone else’s shoes and understand how they feel. But a psychopath has less regard for others, says Aaron Kipnis, PhD, author of The Midas Complex. Someone with this personality type sees others as objects he can use for his own benefit.
They’re Not Always Violent
In movies and TV shows, psychopaths and sociopaths are usually the villains who kill or torture innocent people. In real life, some people with antisocial personality disorder can be violent, but most are not. Instead they use manipulation and reckless behavior to get what they want.

So let's call them what they are - psychopaths

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Agree! I have long been interested (or at least back when I was feeling better, lol,) in the work of Dr. Robert Hare on psychopaths, although the associated traits used in his questionnaire (haven't read up on this for several years, this may have been refined, plus I'm just starting to caffeinate, lol,) were (as I recall) originally developed by studying imprisoned psychopaths so that various of the associated characteristics then used may not have applied to the most successful psychopaths bolstered by money and power.

The defining characteristics of psychopathy, in my view, are the complete lack of empathy and the inability to see beyond their own egos and wants, to be achieved at any cost to the unimportant others used and abused, the suffering from which abuse may be pursued as enjoyable in itself, especially where the victim has stood in their way - or failed to support them; like corporations, they are incapable of human feelings and often cannot understand that they may themselves suffer consequences as a result of their own actions, as with the TPP et al, ultimately destructive of everyone and everything involved, (including the ever-more-rapidly-even-at-current-rates failing life support system of the Earth, due to industrial/military pollution/destruction) and likely in very short order.

The vindictiveness of the inner circle of Hillary's team is legendary - like attracts like, and in this respect, at least, psychopaths are much like anyone else. She would be far worse than Bush, even if Bush did initiate the corporate coups promoted by Hillary as 'trade deals'. She is far more petty, not to mention likely to expose vulnerable agents to hazard without even the intention at getting back at an agent's spouse for crossing her, but simply due to her consistently displayed poor judgment/carelessness ('I, myself, am untouchable and can do as I please; the consequences always must naturally fall on expendable others') ranging into recklessness and beyond, as with her destructive actions regarding the TPP, donor-promised attacks on other countries and fracking.

Clearly, neither the current Dem presumptive nominee nor the Republican candidate are, shall we say, feasible; failing a miraculous Bernie save, a concerted effort among the aware to vote Green, with carefully laid plans to oversee elections and to record and sue over all indications of voter suppression and electoral cheating, would appear to form the last opportunity for a bloodless political revolution toward democracy in America before control of domestic law in all industrialized countries is officially handed over, by a corrupt new President's acceptance/ratification, to off-shored corporate courts interested only in maximizing the claimed-as-anticipated profits of all of thousands of involved corporate interests and billionaires/multi-millionaires in all countries betrayed into such hostile corporate take-overs and thereafter 'legally' existing only for the purpose of such self-interest's profiteering, at the ultimate cost of life on the planet.

I wouldn't like to bet on anyone having even faked elections among selected corporate management once domestic law and public policy are 'legally' (via unconstitutional private agreements to dispossess The People of their inherent and entailed right of democracy and to commit them to essentially existing only to supply the desired corporate/billionaire profits, at the cost of their health, lives, environment, future and democracy, this presumably to be supported by a predominately 'corporate-friendly' US Supreme court) to be determined only by the greed of any/all of thousands of corporate/billionaire interests squabbling over the remaining scraps on the dwindling corpses of what had been industrialized democracies around the world.

We already know what happens in countries where the people are not protected against corporate depredation - once this has been made 'legal' and global, and with no hope of recourse for any public/country, it then comes down to the wrong sort of last-ditch revolution, the kind we really need to avoid. But in some cases, it seems almost as though, like some pathological Kings of old, some would wish the slaughter of those they view as their servants/serfs to occur at or before their deaths, if not to serve them in some mythical hell, at least to have as their only purpose that of serving them in the hell they created in life, and in this current situation, actually assure that life itself will not long survive their own passing. Keeping them - whether politicians, billionaires or multi-millionaires - out of power and away from public policy decision-making ought to be recognized as imperative. And - apart from Bernie - the Greens are the only democratic option remaining in this US election. Even if the first bout of blatant electoral cheating is (yet again) to be left to stand???!!! the 2nd attempt cannot be, and the American public is now better equipped to understand what they're dealing with.

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Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.

A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.

The ISDS is a manufactured crisis, much like Supreme Court nominations.

It is clear to me (and has been for many, many years) that the elite will not stop until we're all as poor as the poorest third worlders you've ever seen and there is literally no way to take more from us without losing a lot of money to do it. Living in a garbage dump under a scavenged tin roof, children starving, covered in flies and disease - all that.

It follows that at some point society will finally rebel. (No, there will be no avoiding it, and the sooner everyone accepts that, the better.) Call it revolution or call it social apoptosis; eventually we will fight back, or die trying, or else simply die. I think, or hope, that it will happen before we're ALL scavenging in garbage dumps; hell, I hope it will happen tomorrow, but I don't expect it.

Nevertheless, when the day comes that the people finally start to kill their masters and take everything back, what do you suppose will happen if some lawyer turd from Coca-Cola or Monsanto or Boeing shows up and announces that we're not allowed to rebel because their corporation owns everything and we're costing them profits, so desist immediately?

He'll be sent back in a box, if he's lucky; several, if he isn't.

The ISDS doesn't concern me because it doesn't much matter what form elite oppression takes; the barrel of a gun looks the same whether the person holding it wears a suit, a military uniform, or riot gear, and that gun has the same effect no matter whether it's a law, a royal decree, or a contract clause we're commanded to obey. It won't matter whether we face the state or the corporate state when we finally start fighting back.

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The more I watch Hiilary -- despite trying my best to ignore her -- the more I see Dick Nixon in a pantsuit. The indicia of a paranoid style are everywhere, despite all the well-produced propaganda meant to conceal it. I fear that if she wins in November she will be impeached, and she will richly deserve it.

Maybe a second, successful Clinton impeachment, taking down all the hangers-on and the financiers behind them, will be the event that finally kills this DLC Democratic Party. Since the Republicans are not fit successors, Hillary may ironically become the mother of a new politics.

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I had only thought it had been said OF him not BY him.

I still find HRC's ties to his impeachment fascinating: http://caucus99percent.com/content/what-hillary-clinton-has-said-histori...

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'What we are left with is an agency mandated to ensure transparency and disclosure that is actually working to keep the public in the dark' - Ann M. Ravel, former FEC member

http://faculty.csbsju.edu/uspp/clinton-hr/character.html

Brief excerpt:

In this essay I will document some of the enduring personal characteristics that provide the empirical basis for my assessment of Hillary Clinton's dominant, ambitious personality pattern.

After interviewing many of Clinton's associates for a New Yorker article ("Hillary the pol," May 30, 1994) Connie Bruck concluded, "In the end, the sureness about her own judgmentï--at its extreme, a sense that she alone is wise--is probably Hillary's cardinal trait." Evident in Bruck's assessment is the dogmatic inflexibility characteristic of the cognitive style of highly conscientious, dominant personalities, tinged with the hubris of high ambition.

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"It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society." --Jiddu Krishnamurti

Phoebe Loosinhouse's picture

Hillary reminds me very much of a former professional acquaintance of mine whose greatest gift and greatest flaw was always sounding like the most informed and intelligent person on any topic even when that wasn't the case in reality. This was a lesson finally learned by many around her - sounding smart and acting smart was not actually the same thing as being smart.

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who had many of those characteristics, although my superior was not as hard edged and was more sociable than Hillary. I distinctly remember a staff meeting on an issue my superior wanted to push forward with. The issue did not make sense to me so I asked the obvious question, "Can we define the problem that we are trying to solve?" My superior became very angry and responded, "I do not want to talk about problems, I want to talk about solutions." My superior was angry that I asked the obvious question because it was in effect questioning their judgment.

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Do I hear the sound of guillotines being constructed?

“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~ President John F. Kennedy

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yet she keeps having to say "hindsight is 20/20" to explain her glaring mistakes. She surrounds herself with only syncophants who only praise her. It's a narcissistic echo chamber and nothing pierces it.

That, right there, is a recipe for disaster in a presidency.

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Inflexibility and the inability to listen to the counsel of others or to view situations from other perspectives is not a good thing.

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Do I hear the sound of guillotines being constructed?

“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~ President John F. Kennedy

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http://www.immelman.us/news/behind-the-clinton-e-mails-the-psychological...

Following is a collection of research reports and related political analysis, conducted between 1999 and 2008, that may have a bearing on the matter in terms of Hillary Clinton’s personality traits, psychological motives, and leadership style.

This piece is among those listed:

‘Monster’? The Darker Side of Hillary Clinton’s Character

By Sarah Moore and Aubrey Immelman
Unit for the Study of Personality in Politics
March 8, 2008

Last Friday, Samantha Power, a foreign policy adviser to Barack Obama, made headlines by declaring Hillary Clinton “a monster.” In an article in a Scottish newspaper, Power was quoted as saying, “She is a monster, too — that is off the record — she is stooping to anything” (“‘Hillary Clinton’s a monster’: Obama aide blurts out attack in Scotsman interview,” The Scotsman, March 7, 2008).

Power resigned within hours of her gaffe hitting the headlines. “I made inexcusable remarks that are at marked variance from my oft-stated admiration for Senator Clinton and from the spirit, tenor, and purpose of the Obama campaign,” she wrote in a prepared statement.

Clearly, the ad hominem nature of Power’s personal attack was tasteless. However, should the substance of her tactless statement be brushed off summarily, or does it have a grain of truth that warrants closer examination in the public interest?

The present analysis is part of a series of nearly 30 analyses of political candidates — four of them dealing with Hillary Clinton — published in the Times since the 2000 election cycle by research collaborators at the Unit for the Study of Personality in Politics at the College of St. Benedict and St. John’s University.

Darker qualities

As noted in two recent articles in the series (“Does Clinton have only 1 card to play?” Feb. 26, 2008; “Clinton, Obama show their strengths,” Mar. 4, 2008), Clinton possesses qualities that could make her an effective leader. However, she also has personality traits (not highlighted in previous reports) that reveal a darker, Machiavellian side.

Three studies of Clinton conducted at the research unit in the past decade have identified, with consistent results, the core features of her personality.

Clinton’s profile contains a cluster of three prominent patterns: a dominant, controlling tendency (aggressiveness); an ambitious, self-serving tendency (narcissism); and a conscientious, dutiful tendency (obsessiveness).

Also of note, Clinton’s profile shows quite a high level of distrust and a relative lack of outgoing and accommodating features, suggesting a deficit of warmth and congeniality.

For more insight into Clinton’s character, let’s take a closer look at the three core qualities of her personality.

Dominant and controlling

Dominant individuals are tough, unsentimental, strong-willed, assertive, and outspoken. These qualities have many positive aspects; for example, speaking out and standing up for what you believe in, easily rising to leadership challenges, holding your ground, and demonstrating unflinching courage in the face of opposition.

However, these traits potentially have a more sinister side; the dominant tendency also reflects a strong drive for power and the expectation that their authority should be unquestioned. In addition to being coercive, these personalities tend to be unempathic, stubborn, and inflexible.

When pushed on personal matters, highly dominant leaders are prone to respond vindictively, especially when feeling humiliated or belittled. They are quick to attack when provoked or challenged and their first inclination is to dominate and demean their adversary.

Clinton has been portrayed as a no-nonsense individual who likes to take charge, is not easily intimidated, and often inspires respect — even grudging respect inspired by fear.

In his book The Choice (1996), Bob Woodward wrote that Clinton occasionally “snapped at people, even blew up, providing a momentary glimpse of inner rage. She seemed angry … [and] often seemed not to recognize when she was hurting people.”

Woodward’s observation offers a glimpse of someone who needs to be in charge, does not easily tolerate dissent, and lacks empathy for others.

Ambitious and self-serving

In moderation, personal ambition also has positive aspects; for example, boldness, competitiveness, and self-assurance. But the self-confidence of ambitious leaders readily shades into arrogance, a sense of entitlement, and an air of superiority — and they often act as though entitled.

After interviewing many of Clinton’s associates for a 1994 article in New Yorker magazine, Connie Bruck concluded, “In the end, the sureness about her own judgment — at its extreme, a sense that she alone is wise — is probably Hillary’s cardinal trait.”

Similarly, political scientist and psychoanalyst Stanley Renshon wrote in High Hopes: The Clinton Presidency and the Politics of Ambition that one aspect of Hillary Clinton’s character that stands out is her confidence in herself, her positions, and her work — resulting in a sense of entitlement, “a tendency to not want to be bound by limits that apply to others.”

A distrusting nature

Clinton’s elevation on the “Distrusting” scale of the personality inventory used at the Unit for the Study of Personality in Politics to evaluate political leaders is unusually high relative to other candidates studied in the last four presidential election cycles.

Distrusting leaders — especially those who also happen to be highly dominant and ambitious — tend to be thin-skinned and hypersensitive to perceived slights; vengeful, with a willingness to “balance the books” with respect to perceived past wrongs; prone to “us versus them” thinking; self-righteous, acting arrogantly and with a sense of entitlement; and self-justifying, viewing their attacks on adversaries either as defensive necessity or as “payback.”

For example, Clinton was reportedly the central figure in the 1993 White House travel office dismissals, in which scores were ruthlessly settled.

Gail Sheehy, in her book Hillary’s Choice (1999), had this to say about Clinton’s view of the world: “Her view of humanity is that mankind was born selfish and unruly and must be channeled. … Politics was the means. She even admitted that she couldn’t identify with the ‘faceless masses.’ She sounded … elitist, privileged, distrustful of the people.”

So, Clinton may have a Hobbesian, dog-eat-dog view of the world, but that doesn’t justify the gratuitous demonization of pejoratively branding her “a monster.”

That said, last December, former president Bill Clinton warned that to elect Obama would be “to ‘roll the dice’ for America.” By the same token, as we contemplate the prospect of the second Clinton presidency in a generation, it behooves Americans to ask themselves if they are willing to take a gamble on another Clinton.

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hubis is a fatal flaw.

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that will never happen-- one famous phrase by a president "the buck stops here" For Hillary The buck will flow into the Clinton foundation. big difference in trust and integrity between the two

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like sh*t

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Don't believe everything you think.

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When Harry Truman said "the Buck stops here" meaning with him, although literally meaning money, it really meant taking responsibility for whatever decisions were his, The President being the ultimate arbiter of Executive duty and responsibility. The "buck" referred to in the above comment by WI58 is appreciated as referring only to the Buck being a monetary entity. In that interpretation, I fully concur.
But as P.L. so aptly points out with assists from several of other commentators above my comment, Hillary's psychopathic desire for both financial enrichment and any other means of self-aggrandizement will only be strengthened by opposition. When people say "no" to her, or merely balk at her commands, she becomes more insistent on obtaining her exact, precise demands. She is the epitome of "I want what I want when I want it". Hillary as the ultimate boss (President / Queen) will be so emboldened by her almost absolute power, that she will brook absolutely NO DEVIATION from her commands--they will not be requests. That trait will be the very reason she will start war(s) because any nation so impudent as to disagree with her plans will (not may) feel the extraordinary military might the U.S. possesses.

But it is this very trait, when combined with others she posses, is actually her Achilles Heel if her opposition is adroit enough to perceive it.

Prime example of her response to opposition, no matter how polite and / or reasonable is to become progressively more intransigent vis-a-vis her treatment of Bernie Sanders. The smear campaign is not what I refer to, though it is a typical Clintonian action style. Even "stupid, negligent" Hillary must be aware of her desperate need to unify Berners behind her, that she should have been playing "nice" and at least sounding conciliatory to Bernie's millions of supporters. Yet despite a cognitively logical need for such an approach, her emotional need is not to placate her opposition--but to smash it.

If Bernie keeps the pressure on by staying in the fight to the convention, this vexation will continue to enrage Clinton. Funny thing about psychopaths, once they are cornered, they reveal themselves to be very thin-skinned about criticism, even though they care naught for the feelings of others. And here is the other blade of the pincers slowly crushing her: this blade actually has at least three parts (maybe more). One is the incipient perjury investigation just initiated. Two is the ongoing FOIA lawsuit by JW. Third may be Comey finally getting incensed about Hillary turning on him after he abrogated his responsibility to indict her.

I would imagine that the physical strain on Clinton must be enormous. First she jet-sets all over the country several times a day, every day, She has to beseech donors to throw more money at her and/or her "Charity". Even for an entitled witch like Hillary, convincing Banksters to part with more money must still take an emotional toll on her. She is no "spring chicken"--in fact, she is an old vulture who has already suffered a concussion and a stroke. She is after all only 5 years younger than Bernie.

So, Medusa may be forced by circumstance to look in the mirror--and thus turn to stone and crumble--maybe she is crumbling now.

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It was in the monetary perspective as I don't think she would never take any responsibility for her action/ decisions if they went wrong. Others would be thrown under the bus for her actions.

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This has stood out for me. I have seen this behavior to a lesser extent in my own career, but never to the degree that Hillary Clinton demands. I find her to be very dangerous because of her personality defects, but particularly the one that you point out.

Yet despite a cognitively logical need for such an approach, her emotional need is not to placate her opposition--but to smash it.

Very astute observation!

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Do I hear the sound of guillotines being constructed?

“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~ President John F. Kennedy

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I think lunachickie is fully cognizant of what this essay was essentially about. She strikes me as a person with good reading skills and a solid grasp of logic, and the points she raised in her comment complemented the essay.

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why I posted that as a reply to lunachickie, it's really more me talking to myself than anything and not really responsive to anything that she wrote. Although, it might be symptomatic of PTSD from TOP where critical comments have to be clothed as "constructive" or you're just another hater.

I actually have no desire to really offer constructive advice to Hillary if it helps her achieve her goal of attaining the Presidency. The day the news came out about her server, I thought she disqualified herself from running simply on the transparency and FOIA side of things, before National Security became any part of the discussion. That's why it's so nice to write here where I'm not subjected to demands for a loyalty oath and countless admonitions to "enjoy President Trump!". If we do end up with a President Trump, I will blame the Democrats for insisting on running a fatally flawed candidate who is the only Democrat who could actually lose to a Trump.

And you're right, lunachickie doesn't need anyone's help in interpreting anything as far as I can tell.

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" “Human kindness has never weakened the stamina or softened the fiber of a free people. A nation does not have to be cruel to be tough.” FDR "

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I agree 100% that Clinton disqualified herself with her server. The nation experienced a paranoid president that suffered from a burning desire for secrecy -- Nixon. We don't need another.

President Trump doesn't worry me quite as much as President Clinton. I doubt I'll vote for him but I'm positive I can't vote for her.

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why I posted that as a reply to lunachickie, it's really more me talking to myself

I got your message loud and clear--and I think most of your readers did too. BTW, lunachickie and Ellen North, amongst others offered excellent contributions to your essay. Thank you for it.

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as did just about every single commenter in this essay. I am always pretty well blown away by the quality of the conversations and observations here at the caucus.

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" “Human kindness has never weakened the stamina or softened the fiber of a free people. A nation does not have to be cruel to be tough.” FDR "

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starting with your excellent essay. I definitely wasn't trying to circumvent or take away from it. Truly, it allowed me to put my finger on what's really been bothering me since Tuesday--the post-rescue (because that's what it was) period of time and the HRC tactics. It is precisely her tactics presented in this situation that made me wonder about her sanity. You worded it so completely clearly and succinctly that it became apparent that's what I was trying to work out in my head:

despite receiving the greatest gift of all, freedom from the fear of indictment, is turning on her benefactor, FBI Director James Comey and implying that the person displaying the impaired reasoning and decision making in regards to characterizing her actions as exceptional carelessness, is him.

Clinton is now a walking, talking poster child for the concept of "Shut up while you're still ahead". If she doesn't even get that much, she's either not bright enough to be POTUS or she is coming unglued.

Great, great discussion hence, too. I really did get it and appreciate it!

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I had a point of view when I wrote this piece, but I didn't have the entire picture that my own subconscious was working on and to which you in your comment provided a provided a vital piece -

you said she 'was beating a dead horse and would blame the animal rights people for not stopping her when she was done' which is an incredibly brilliant insight and analogy - because that is exactly what she is doing.

I was caught up on 'why is she beating this dead horse?' to her own detriment without realizing it's the only horse she has

I think your comment slowly sunk in to my subconscious when I somewhat laboriously came to that same realization at the bottom of these comments - she had painted herself into a corner where her only choices were either a sort of invincible ignorance or an acknowledgement that she had knowingly subjugated her responsibility, ostensibly for convenience or possibly some darker reason.

Do we really believe the whole "convenience" angle? Comey pretended to because the alternative didn't fit into his own narrative where her actions were not driven by a conscious desire to subvert the law - but the mystery and crime readers of the world among us would instinctively reject this premise and his acceptance of it.

I have always said that "People who hide things have things to hide."

I will now add a new corollary - "People who don't find things often aren't looking very hard."

Comey didn't find intent because he never looked for it and IMO averted his eyes anytime it may have leaped in front of him.

Perhaps I have ingested too much Perry Mason or Miss Marple or Nancy Drew throughout my life, but The Instance of Secretary's Server was solved for me when the maid asked innocently why the lady of the house donned galoshes when it wasn't raining.

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" “Human kindness has never weakened the stamina or softened the fiber of a free people. A nation does not have to be cruel to be tough.” FDR "

That's more of an explanation than she gave for her Iraq War vote and that resulted in hundreds of thousands of people dead, maimed and/ore displaced and also de-stablized the Middle East.

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She has associates who give her filtered news. Totally disconnected to humans who have not gotten the nod that they will be loyal as sword-falling. Because she is special. Did her usual stylist go on vacation? That PBS interview she looks older than the elderly interviewer, who has had facial surgery. Hillary had at least fillers injected.

Catty now, but what are her stylists doing to make her look more elderly , creased and worn by applying BLUSHER to her pancake makeup face? Women see this, it's wrong yes, but I still have nightmares about my great-aunt Kate, who would always apply two circles of rouge where she thought they should be? Clown.

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Hey! my dear friends or soon-to-be's, JtC could use the donations to keep this site functioning for those of us who can still see the life preserver or flotsam in the water.

Exactly! For decades, since her (double batch of) 1st Lady days began, she's been isolated and protected from reality by money/power/Secret Service - and, worst of all, a fanatically adulatory inner circle. Apart from all other issues, this is not a good situation for the understanding/experience of anyone potentially holding public office...

'The people have no bread, nor have they cake? Let them eat ordure sandwiches! Hahaha!'

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Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.

A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.

Thank you for the smile...didn't think I"d be able to smile again...but this:
When she's done with that dental exam, she's gonna beat that horse to death with a 2 x 4, and then she'll blame all the animal rights people for not stopping her.

Perfection.

Also, now, Her MustGoAwayness is now telling "white" people how to behave- she who practically pushed away a young ( she paid to attend) BLM woman from a fundraiser...remember...maybe we could gather some of those hideously arrogant actions - and make our own GO AWAY AD.
Enough is so much more now than Enough.
Go Away.

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She has no shame.

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Beware the bullshit factories.

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I'm beginning to believe she's worse than Cheney.

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Profile of the Sociopath

1. Glibness and Superficial Charm.
2. Manipulative and Conning. They never recognize the rights of others and see their self-serving behaviors as permissible. ...
3. Grandiose Sense of Self. ...
4. Pathological Lying. ...
5. Lack of Remorse, Shame or Guilt. ...
6. Shallow Emotions. ...
7. Incapacity for Love.
8. Need for Stimulation

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Don't believe everything you think.

She is not always glib.

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Don't believe everything you think.

Bollox Ref's picture

She's possibly the most charmless persona on the national stage today (including Trump).

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Gëzuar!!
from a reasonably stable genius.

MsGrin's picture

...and very, very true - she is deficient in this area. Sociopaths really should at least be charming while they destroy others.

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I wouldn't know about #s6-8.
#2, #3,#4, and #5? Oh hell yeah.

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"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha

"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver

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Defending every "Free Pass" or "Get Out Of Jail Free" card with indignation forever...

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I'm the only person standing between Richard Nixon and the White House."

~John F. Kennedy~
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" “Human kindness has never weakened the stamina or softened the fiber of a free people. A nation does not have to be cruel to be tough.” FDR "

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“And as I have said many times, I certainly did not believe that I received or sent any material that was classified.”

In other words, 'I worked as Secretary of State for four years, and never dealt with any classified information.'

You know, maybe she could do that as President, too? It would be the Most Transparent Administration Evah!

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"I’m a human being, first and foremost, and as such I’m for whoever and whatever benefits humanity as a whole.” —Malcolm X

I said the same thing over at another site (not TOP) the other day. We know that she used her clintonemail.com address exclusively while she was Sec. of State. I think i read that there was a state.gov account set up for her, but she never activated it.

I would like to see a journalist pose the question to her this way:

"Sec. Clinton, you have said that you never knowingly sent or received information using your clintonemail.com account. What email account did you use when it was necessary for you to send or receive classified information?"

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especially the photo. perfect. My partner tells me you have been making these a lot lately.

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"I’m a human being, first and foremost, and as such I’m for whoever and whatever benefits humanity as a whole.” —Malcolm X

It's cheaper than going for therapy.

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message". Ha! She'll swing back tomorrow.

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Considering that she's promised in a Brookings speech that the lovely and charming Bibi will be brought into policy discussions with great promptitude, perhaps she simply referred all classified information elsewhere to someone else's, so that her highly polished server(s) never saw any?

Oh, wait, it's been proven that she simply lied and tried to destroy the evidence - displaying experience of a sort...

Edit to add link, (bolding mine) for anyone not yet seeing this:

https://theintercept.com/2015/09/09/hillary-clinton-goes-militaristic-ha...

Hillary Clinton Goes to Militaristic, Hawkish Think Tank, Gives Militaristic, Hawkish Speech
Glenn Greenwald

Sep. 9 2015

...As for Israel itself, Clinton eagerly promised to shower it with a long, expensive, and dangerous list of gifts. Here’s just a part of what that country can expect from the second President Clinton:

I will deepen America’s unshakeable commitment to Israel’s security, including our long standing tradition of guaranteeing Israel’s qualitative military edge. I’ll increase support for Israeli rocket and missile defenses and for intelligence sharing. I’ll sell Israel the most sophisticated fire aircraft ever developed. The F-35. We’ll work together to develop and implement better tunnel detection technology to prevent arms smuggling and kidnapping as well as the strongest possible missile defense system for Northern Israel, which has been subjected to Hezbollah’s attacks for years.

She promised she “will sustain a robust military presence in the [Persian Gulf] region, especially our air and naval forces.” She vowed to “increase security cooperation with our Gulf allies” — by which she means the despotic regimes in Saudi Arabia, United Arab Emirates and Qatar, among others. She swore she will crack down even further on Hezbollah: “It’s time to eliminate the false distinction that some still make between the supposed political and military wings. If you’re part of Hezbollah, you’re part of a terrorist organization, plain and simple.”

Then she took the ultimate pledge: “I would not support this agreement for one second if I thought it put Israel in greater danger.” So even if the deal would benefit the U.S., she would not support it “for one second” if it “put Israel in greater danger.” That’s an unusually blunt vow to subordinate the interests of the U.S. to that foreign nation.

But when it comes to gifts to Israel, that’s not all! Echoing the vow of several GOP candidates to call Netanyahu right away after being elected, Clinton promised: “I would invite the Israeli prime minister to the White House during my first month in office to talk about all of these issues and to set us on a course of close, frequent consultation right from the start, because we both rely on each other for support as partners, allies and friends.” She then addressed “the people of Israel,” telling them: “Let me say, you’ll never have to question whether we’re with you. The United States will always be with you.” For good measure, she heaped praise on “my friend Chuck Schumer,” who has led the battle to defeat the Iran Deal, gushing about what an “excellent leader in the Senate” he will make. What’s a little warmongering among friends?...

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and the even more extreme Israelis to the right of him politically.

No two ways about it — want a second "new Pearl Harbor"? Vote D this year, vote Hillary.

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he specifically said that BEFORE this event, he believed that no one at State could possibly miss the classification marks on documents, and that he had come to believe it IS possible to miss. She convinced him that she believes this.

There are books about the behavior of sociopaths - perhaps he should read one.

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Comey jumped into one himself.

His whole investigation was initiated ( I think) by a referral from the IG about the presence of classified material on Hillary's server, or at least that's what he said. AND YET he stated that they did not investigate HOW and WHO took the material from the secured systems? Wouldn't determining that been the entire point of the investigation in the first place?

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" “Human kindness has never weakened the stamina or softened the fiber of a free people. A nation does not have to be cruel to be tough.” FDR "

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"I’m a human being, first and foremost, and as such I’m for whoever and whatever benefits humanity as a whole.” —Malcolm X

Dammit, if the people start thinking, the whole oligarchy falls apart! Stop it at once!

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Bollox Ref's picture

An SoS who never saw/worked with classified material???!!! WTF!

Who believes this?

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Gëzuar!!
from a reasonably stable genius.

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that argument makes no sense at all. If she wasn't dealing w/classified material, what the hell was she emailing -- links to cat videos? But I have not heard one single reporter or mediot ask that question.

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Hell is empty and all the devils are here. William Shakespeare

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"I’m a human being, first and foremost, and as such I’m for whoever and whatever benefits humanity as a whole.” —Malcolm X

P-S-Y-C-H-O-P-A-T-H!
They are always right because, in their malformed brains, they are superior to, smarter than, and more deserving than others. They are shallow, but clever. They go over the precipice and beyond the point where others fear to tread because they are entitled and fearless. They lie, cheat, and steal their way to where they want to go. If you ever cross them, they will destroy you, and make it look like you did it to yourself. Bill is also a psychopath, which is why they are so deadly. Read The Psychopath Next Door. You'll learn to recognize them. Invisibility is their greatest strength because, by the time you realize and acknowledge they are damaged, it's too late.

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I'm not sure where the line is drawn exactly between the two, but she's DEFINITELY on that spectrum (along with her BFF* David Brock who has done so much to orchestrate her run).

*Sociopaths really aren't capable of having BFF's - one will end up throwing the other under the bus if and when it serves them.

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are interchangeable. There is a distinction between organic and environmental cause, IIUC.

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'What we are left with is an agency mandated to ensure transparency and disclosure that is actually working to keep the public in the dark' - Ann M. Ravel, former FEC member

environmental causes of socio/psychopathy. Suppose we can agree that, for instance, both the corporate environment, especially at the upper management levels, as well as certain levels of government are strong environmental causes for this mental illness in certain susceptible individuals? We do have evidence that certain strong psyches can resist this, for instance Bernie Sanders. So, what have we got? Screenings (besides the voting process) to weed out weaker psyches, perhaps. Or necessary psych evals periodically (for the good of the person, of course, although the people also benefit.)

I'm not really advocating this because psychiatrists can become Big Brothers as easily as pols. But I can fantasize.

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Psychopathic traits are certainly strongly apparent in Hillary's history and current behaviours; however, actual diagnosis must, of course, be carefully made by professionals.

Studies used in the formation of the Hare Checklist were typically conducted on imprisoned psychopaths, not so much successful ones bolstered by money and power who are in positions of power sufficient to gain a high degree of immunity - and, in example, therefore do achieve higher education and high-level jobs. Therefore (this is only my theory, based on the types within cohorts generally used and on other studies/findings/examples read in the past) some of the characteristics associated with psychopaths who might be lower-level con-men or have been arrested for violent behaviours, 'minor' fraud or other 'petty' crimes, etc. may not be apparent in the high-level public servant or CEO otherwise rating high on the scale of psychopathic traits.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/articles/199401/charming-psychopath

...

Egocentric and Grandiose

Psychopaths have a narcissistic and grossly inflated view of their own self-worth and importance, a truly astounding egocentricity and sense of entitlement, and see themselves as the center of the universe, justified in living according to their own rules. "It's not that I don't follow the law," said one subject. "I follow my own laws. I never violate my own rules." She then proceeded to describe these rules in terms of "looking out for number one."

Psychopaths often claim to have specific goals but show little appreciation regarding the qualifications required—they have no idea of how to achieve them and little or no chance of attaining these goals, given their track record and lack of sustained interest in formal education. The psychopathic inmate might outline vague plans to become a lawyer for the poor or a property tycoon. One inmate, not particularly literate, managed to copyright the title of a book he was planning to write about himself, already counting the fortune his best-selling book would bring. ...

... Their lack of remorse or guilt is associated with a remarkable ability to rationalize their behavior, to shrug off personal responsibility for actions that cause family, friends, and others to reel with shock and disappointment. They usually have handy excuses for their behavior, and in some cases deny that it happened at all.

Lack of Empathy

Many of the characteristics displayed by psychopaths are closely associated with a profound lack of empathy and inability to construct a mental and emotional "facsimile" of another person. They seem completely unable to "get into the skin" of others, except in a purely intellectual sense. ...

... Deceitful and Manipulative

With their powers of imagination in gear and beamed on themselves, psychopaths appear amazingly unfazed by the possibility—or even by the certainty—of being found out. When caught in a lie or challenged with the truth, they seldom appear perplexed or embarrassed—they simply change their stories or attempt to rework the facts so they appear to be consistent with the lie. The result is a series of contradictory statements and a thoroughly confused listener. ...

... Psychopaths are unlikely to spend much time weighing the pros and cons of a course of action or considering the possible consequences. "I did it because I felt like it," is a common response. These impulsive acts often result from an aim that plays a central role in most of the psychopath's behavior: to achieve immediate satisfaction, pleasure, or relief.

So family members, relatives, employers, and coworkers typically find themselves standing around asking themselves what happened—jobs are quit, relationships broken off, plans changed, houses ransacked, people hurt, often for what appears as little more than a whim. ...

... Besides being impulsive, psychopaths are highly reactive to perceived insults or slights. Most of us have powerful inhibitory controls over our behavior; even if we would like to respond aggressively we are usually able to "keep the lid on." In psychopaths, these inhibitory controls are weak, and the slightest provocation is sufficient to overcome them. ...

... Psychopaths have an ongoing and excessive need for excitement—they long to live in the fast lane or "on the edge," where the action is. In many cases the action involves the breaking of rules. ...

... Obligations and commitments mean nothing to psychopaths. Their good intentions—"I'll never cheat on you again"—are promises written on the wind.

Horrendous credit histories, for example, reveal the lightly taken debt, the loan shrugged off, the empty pledge to contribute to a child's support. Their performance on the job is erratic, with frequent absences, misuse of company resources, violations of company policy, and general untrustworthiness. They do not honor formal or implied commitments to people, organizations, or principles.

Psychopaths are not deterred by the possibility that their actions mean hardship or risk for others. ...

... Psychopaths see the rules and expectations of society as inconvenient and unreasonable impediments to their own behavioral expression. They make their own rules, both as children and as adults.

Many of the antisocial acts of psychopaths lead to criminal charges and convictions. Even within the criminal population, psychopaths stand out, largely because the antisocial and illegal activities of psychopaths are more varied and frequent than are those of other criminals. Psychopaths tend to have no particular affinity, or "specialty," for one particular type of crime but tend to try everything.

But not all psychopaths end up in jail. Many of the things they do escape detection or prosecution, or are on "the shady side of the law." For them, antisocial behavior may consist of phony stock promotions, questionable business practices, spouse or child abuse, and so forth. ...

... But here is the crux: Psychopaths don't feel they have psychological or emotional problems, and they see no reason to change their behavior to conform with societal standards they do not agree with. ...

Persons of this type must be kept out of positions where they hold power over others - and most especially out of the public service, which has already been warped into the reverse by the pathological corporate culture controlling what's intended to be government of, by and for the people.

http://www.hare.org/scales/pclr.html

Psychopathy Scales

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With their powers of imagination in gear and beamed on themselves, psychopaths appear amazingly unfazed by the possibility—or even by the certainty—of being found out. When caught in a lie or challenged with the truth, they seldom appear perplexed or embarrassed—they simply change their stories or attempt to rework the facts so they appear to be consistent with the lie. The result is a series of contradictory statements and a thoroughly confused listener. ...

The corollary is this: psychopaths will pass blame onto everyone but themselves. In the current lexicon, this is often referred to as "throwing someone under the bus". But psychopaths are notorious for seeking more severe measures of revenge--e.g., tales of the Clinton Crime family and mysterious deaths of people who either knew too much, or, literally outlived their usefulness.

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Greyhound's picture

the less one is suited to be trusted with it.

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Greyhound's picture

to reset my connection (in certain cases), which causes caucus99 to reset their connection, and I can make duplicate posts/replies.

Delete would be easier...

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MsGrin's picture

yesterday, on Chrome I tried to search on YouTube for Clinton Sniper Fire to show someone who had not seen the mashups and I got a bizarre Google error message which said it could not be done.

When I tried the same search on FireFox, the expected array of vids came up.

Thanks, The Groundwork and Scrub The Record!

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Greyhound's picture

doing to the web.

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and stuffing everything in to port 80 is stupid just stupid. But users can click and swipe their shit and feel empowered so... Public Relations for the win!

Monopolies suck and oligarchs love 'em. So does the Surveillance industry. Just say "innovation" and people's minds shut off I don't why.

Mrs. Bitterman

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prison would barely be considered sufficient punishment. They may be the most corrupt politicians in the history of our country, and that is saying a lot

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FBI Director Comey told her to "Cut it out." But she won't. Just like Wall Street didn't "cut it out" when she told them to behave.

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"Just call me Hillbilly Dem(exit)."
-H/T to Wavey Davey

She takes her orders from elsewhere, of course, which is why she gets the big bucks.

http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2016/02/hillary-clinton-backed-major-repu...

Hillary Clinton Is Backed by Major Republican Donors
Posted on February 22, 2016 by Eric Zuesse.

Eric Zuesse

An analysis of Federal Election Commission records, by TIME, which was published on 23 October 2015, showed that the 2012 donors to Romney’s campaign were already donating more to Hillary Clinton’s 2016 campaign than they had been donating to any one of the 2016 campaigns of — listed here in declining order below Clinton — Lindsey Graham, Rand Paul, Carly Fiorina, Chris Christie, Rick Perry, Mike Huckabee, Donald Trump, Bobby Jindal, Rick Santorum, George Pataki, or Jim Gilmore. Those major Romney donors also gave a little to two Democrats (other than to Hillary — who, as mentioned, received a lot of donations from these Republican donors): Martin O’Malley, Jim Web, and Lawrence Lessig. (Romney’s donors gave nothing to Bernie Sanders, and nothing to Elizabeth Warren. They don’t want either of those people to become President.)

Clinton is the only Democratic candidate who is even moderately attractive to big Republican donors. ...

... What Hillary’s fairly strong appeal to Romney’s financial backers shows is that the wealthy, because of their access to leaders in government, know and recognize the difference between what a candidate says in public, versus what the winning public official has said to them (in private) and actually does while serving in office. They know that she keeps her promises to them, not her promises to the electorate.

Hillary Clinton is a good investment for a billionaire — even for the 70% of them who are Republicans. And, based on those 2015 donation-figures, it seems that they would prefer a President Hillary Clinton, over a President Donald Trump. However, their three favorite candidates, in order, were: Jeb Bush, Ted Cruz, and Marco Rubio. But, in a Clinton-versus-Trump contest, Hillary Clinton would likely draw more money from Republican mega-donors than Trump would, and, of course, she would draw virtually all of the money from Democratic mega-donors. In such an instance, Hillary Clinton would probably draw a larger campaign-chest (especially considering super-pacs) than any candidate for any political office in U.S. (or global) history. Hillary Clinton would almost certainly be the most-heavily-marketed political product in history, if she becomes nominated and ends up running against Trump.

Frankly, I wouldn't ever want to see Liz Warren taken out of the battle to contain banksters, where she displays common sense and tenacity, into areas where the fact that she's OK with the most megalomaniac polluting corporations such as Monsanto could add to existing problems with corporations effectively draining, regulating and poisoning the public and environment, which means life and death - as well as any hope of democracy - for the rest of us.

And Americans need to evade the corner they're being boxed into, thinking outside this restrictive box, to massively vote against both evils to vote Green en masse and to take note of to protest/sue over all examples of the massive cheating which we now know can be expected in the General.

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Raggedy Ann's picture

Let's get this straight once and fore all, peeps, her heinous is NEVER to blame for ANYTHING. Until we get that through all of our tiny little brains, we need to STFU and let her have her walk in the park and her turn in the WH. Bill got a turn, dammit! What don't you understand about that??? Dash 1

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and will never accept what other people see in them. They will not bend, nor break, they simply will destroy themselves and pull everyone around them down with them. It has happened thousands of times. She had fought so hard for all the right causes (at least in her mind), while falling over them and stumble. She can't negate her life-time work just to give in and walk away. Most people can't do that. If they are forced to do so, they don't get over it and carry a grudge for the mean people in the world, who just misunderstood them. They might just carry a lifelong "sniff, sniff, you are so mean" in their heart.

It would surprise me greatly, if she ever would just walk away and resign. She is falling in her own traps she used so skillfully to trap others in.

Just look at her facial expressions in the interview with Judy Woodruff. Do you see what I see?

I do not want to see her (or her husband and their foundation) in power, but I can already feel pity for her, because there is an end to her life's work and career, whenever and however it will happen. But there is an end to everything, the good and the bad. May be it helps not to forget that.

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...and will destroy everything she has polluted - she WILL be found out at some point.

It would be BETTER if those of us around NOW can put a stop to this crap BEFORE she does more harm to little people here and around the world!

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This concerns me very much.

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I agree with you it would be good to stop her from getting power and winning the nomination.

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...about HRC triggering WWIII

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Who will be around to read history, much less write it, it Hillary triggers WWIII?

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Vowing To Oppose Everything Trump Attempts.

Not to mention the industrial/military pollution/destruction-created and snowballing die-off and collapse of the natural life-support system, (with even the ocean currents, a major oxygen producer, slowing) so that at current rates (pre-TTP-type-global-corporate coup) it's been estimated that the Earth will likely be unable to produce enough oxygen to support life within about 90 years, meaning trouble long before this.

This will occur faster, of course, when corporations and billionaires are 'legally' entitled under Trojan Horse 'trade deal' hostile corporate take-overs of all industrialized democracies to do whatever they want in and to all involved people and countries for their own maximized profits - which the people are then purportedly under this obliged to supply, one way or another, at the corporate/billionaire's own anticipated rates, even when it directly kills them - and can simply sue the people of all countries into bankruptcy in order to rob and pollute with absolute impunity.

(The [undated] following does, however, claim that steadily worsening issues are 'completely natural' and not caused by humans, despite the pollutants continually poured into the oceans and other water sources, to the point where something I read some time back had found that isolated areas thought to be pristine were industrially polluted by the poop of nesting seabirds consuming industrially polluted fish.)

http://worldoceanreview.com/en/wor-1/ocean-chemistry/oxygen/

Oxygen in the ocean

> Scientists have been routinely measuring oxygen concentrations in the ocean for more than a hundred years. With growing concerns about climate change, however, this parameter has suddenly become a hot topic. Dissolved oxygen in the ocean provides a sensitive early warning system for the trends that climate change is causing. A massive deployment of oxygen ­sensors is projected for the coming years, which will represent a renaissance of this parameter. ...

...Photosynthetic production of oxygen is limited, however, to the uppermost, sunlit layer of the ocean. This only extends to a depth of around 100 metres and, because of the stable density layering of the ocean, it is largely separated from the enormous underlying volume of the deeper ocean. Moreover, most of the oxygen generated by the primary producers escapes into the atmosphere within a short time, and thus does not contribute to oxygen enrichment in the deep water column. This is because the near-surface water, which extends down to around 100 metres, is typically saturated with oxygen by the supply from the atmosphere, and thus cannot store additional oxygen from biological production. In the inner ocean, on the other hand, there is no source of oxygen. Oxygen enters the ocean in the surface water through contact with the atmosphere. From there the oxygen is then brought to greater depths through the sinking and circulation of water masses. These, in turn, are dynamic processes that are strongly affected by climatic conditions. (Chapter 1). Three factors ultimately determine how high the concentration of dissolved oxygen is at any given point within the ocean:

The initial oxygen concentration that this water possessed at its last contact with the atmosphere.
The amount of time that has passed since the last contact with the atmosphere. This can, in fact, be decades or centuries.
Biological oxygen consumption that results during this time due to the respiration of all the consumers. These range from miniscule bacteria to the zooplankton, and up to the higher organisms such as fish.

The present-day distribution of oxygen in the internal deep ocean is thus determined by a complicated and not fully understood interplay of water circulation and bio­logical productivity, which leads to oxygen consumption in the ocean’s interior. Extensive measurements have shown that the highest oxygen concentrations are found at high latitudes, where the ocean is cold, especially well-mixed and ventilated. The mid-latitudes, by contrast, especially on the western coasts of the continents, are characterized by marked oxygen-deficient zones. The oxygen supply here is very weak due to the sluggish water circulation, and this is further compounded by ­elevated oxygen consumption due to high biological productivity. This leads to a situation where the oxygen is almost completely depleted in the depth range between 100 and 1000 metres. This situation is also observed in the northern Indian Ocean in the area of the Arabian Sea and the Bay of Bengal. Different groups of marine organisms react to the ­oxygen deficiency in completely different ways, because of the wide range of tolerance levels of different marine animals to oxygen-poor conditions. For instance, crustaceans and fish generally require higher oxygen concentrations than mussels or snails. The largest oceanic oxygen minimum zones, however, because of their extremely low concentrations, should be viewed primarily as natural dead zones for the higher organisms, and by no means as caused by humans. >

(Note date here - this has long been known.)
http://www.treehugger.com/natural-sciences/ocean-adead-zonesa-increasing...

Ocean "Dead Zones" Increasing: 400 Oxygen-Deprived Areas Now Exist

Mat McDermott

Science / Natural Sciences
August 15, 2008

Every year the topic of the dead zone in the Gulf of Mexico seems to pop up on TreeHugger—most recently in a report which links expanded corn production to the increasing size of the zone. New research shows that it's not just in the Gulf that ocean dead zones are expanding but throughout the world.

Dead Zones Have Doubled Every 10 Years Since 1960s
According to the study, the number of marine dead zones—areas which are periodically or permanently starved of oxygen—has doubled every 10 years since the 1960s, with those along coastlines increasing in size and intensity. Currently there are about 400 coastal areas, with a combined area larger than the size of Oregon, with such poor water quality, with so little oxygen that only microbes can survive in it. Fish and crustaceans must flee the area or die.

Fertilizer Run-Off, Sewage Worsen the Problem
The reason for the increase? The predictable culprit of human activity. ...

https://coastalscience.noaa.gov/news/climate/oceanic-continental-margin-...

Oceanic Continental Margin Dead Zones Emerge as Threats to Coastal Waters

Posted on June 4th, 2015 (1 year ago) in Changing Temperature & Hydrology, Climate Impacts, Coastal Pollution, Ecological Forecasts & Tools, Ecosystem Management, Hypoxia & Eutrophication, Ocean Acidification, Sponsored Research, Vulnerability Assessments

Declines in oxygen levels of coastal waters have accelerated in recent decades creating “dead zones” not only in more publicized nearshore areas but in open ocean offshore regions of the continental shelves and slopes. Once treated as separate phenomena and distinct fields of study, scientists now see offshore and coastal hypoxia as interconnected, resulting in complex ecological responses. ...

... Both coastal and deeper ocean hypoxia are predicted to worsen with increasing global temperatures.

Nutrient-enriched coastal dead zones can worsen oceanic hypoxia and vice versa. Increasing coastal primary production of phytoplankton fuels microbial decay and respiration in deeper offshore waters, worsening oceanic hypoxia. Likewise, wind-induced upwelling related to atmospheric warming is bringing hypoxic waters to nearshore areas. As a result, areas of continental margins, shelves, and estuaries that were previously well-oxygenated now experience seasonal or sporadic dead zones. ...

http://e360.yale.edu/feature/a_looming_oxygen_crisis_and_its_impact_on_w...

05 A

ug 2010: Analysis
A Looming Oxygen Crisis and
Its Impact on World’s Oceans
As warming intensifies, scientists warn, the oxygen content of oceans across the planet could be more and more diminished, with serious consequences for the future of fish and other sea life.
by carl zimmer

... While fishes and other animals with high oxygen demands suffer, jellyfish may thrive. Jellyfish can tolerate lower oxygen levels than fish, in part because they can store reserves of the gas in their jelly. Free from competition and predators, jellyfish will be able to feast on the microscopic animals and protozoans that feed on algae. They may thus leave more food for bacteria, spurring a further drop in oxygen levels.

A drop in oxygen may also cause the ocean's bacteria to change. Bacteria that need oxygen will no longer be able to thrive in oxygen-free zones of the ocean. But these dead zones will foster the growth of many species of bacteria for whom oxygen is toxic. Some of these oxygen-hating microbes produce nitrogen compounds that are among the most potent greenhouse gases ever measured. In other words, a drop in oxygen levels could further intensify global warming. ...

But the die-off and Arctic melt/warming is proceeding much faster than was anticipated - life is interdependent as well as complex, having evolved over billions of years through trial and error eliminating previous fatal genetic traits/behaviours without previously entirely destroying developed life itself in the process - and when too many of the threads of the web of life have been torn out, there can be no repair.

http://www.standardmedia.co.ke/lifestyle/article/2000184261/global-warmi...

Globa

l warming could destroy Earth by 2100, scientist claims By Mirror Updated Wed, December 2nd 2015 at 11:49 GMT +3

... Climate change could disrupt the production of oyxgen and wipe out humanity within a century, a British scientist has claimed. Terrifying new research has found that global warming has the potential to stop tiny ocean-dwelling phytoplankton from producing enough oxygen to sustain life on planet Earth. Sergei Petrovskii, professor in applied mathematics at the University of Leicester, said a temperature increase of just six degrees celsius could spell doom for our species. Worryingly, some extreme predictions of the effects of global warming have suggested this temperature hike could happen by 2100. “About two-thirds of the planet’s total atmospheric oxygen is produced by ocean phytoplankton – and therefore cessation would result in the depletion of atmospheric oxygen on a global scale," wrote Professor Petrovsk

ii. ...

We need to begin the shift away from fossil fuels and end fracking now - not continue the race to predictable disaster.

http://www.climateemergencyinstitute.com/ocean_oxy_karen_vt.html

Clima

te Emergency Institute
Climate Science Library
​​Ocean Oxygen Decline
​Karen Villarante-Tonido, Philippines
​Original Post: March 18, 2012

I. ​​Introduction

​​The rising levels of atmospheric carbon dioxide (CO2) due to unabated carbon emissions have been given much attention in recent years because of its major impact on global temperatures, climate, ocean chemistry, etc. Recently, it has also been reported to affect the level of oxygen (O2) in the atmosphere. Dr. Ralph Keeling estimated that about three O2 molecules are lost every time a single CO2 molecule is produced by fossil fuel combustion (Johnston, 2007). A 0.0317% decline in atmospheric oxygen has been recorded thus far (for the period 1990 to 2008) (Klusinske, 2010).

​​Fortunately, the world’s oceans (which cover 70% of the Earth’s surface) function as an efficient carbon sink. They absorb about half of the anthropogenic CO2 in the atmosphere (Sabine et al., 2004), thereby buffering the effects of excess atmospheric CO2. Unfortunately however, this is not without consequence to ocean chemistry. Elevated atmospheric CO2 have been reported to cause ocean warming, acidification and recently, the decline in ocean oxygen levels. ...

... III. Causes

​​Global warming and consequently, ocean warming causes a decline in dissolved oxygen for two reasons. First is that the solubility of oxygen decreases as the ocean waters get warmer. In fact, zones of low oxygen in the ocean were found to be contracted in cold periods and expanded in warm periods based on geological records (Conners, 2011). Second, warm ocean waters are more stable, thereby slowing down the “ocean’s thermohaline ‘conveyor belt’ circulation system that…overturns surface layers of the water into the deep and vice versa…” The result is less oxygen carried from the surface layers of the water (which is in intimate contact with air) into the deeper layers (NASA, 2009). This leads to further oxygen depletion of the region between the surface and the deep ocean, the oxygen-minimum zone or OMZ (Chameides, 2010).

In addition, the slowing down of the ocean’s circulation system also brings fewer nutrients from the deep layers into the ocean surface. With fewer nutrients available in the surface layers, oxygen-producing phytoplankton that drift in the ocean surface may be grossly affected. In fact, the declining numbers of phytoplankton species (which dropped by 40 percent from 1950 to 2010) noted in a study published July 29 in Nature was attributed to this nutrient deprivation (Morello, 2010). Phytoplankton organisms produce half of the world’s oxygen output (the other half is produced by plants on land). Hence, with decreasing numbers of these oxygen producers, the level of oxygen in the ocean (and the atmosphere as well) is bound to decline further.

Another reason for the reduced oxygen levels in the deep ocean mentioned by Stramma et al. (2008) is the reduced production of oxygen-rich deep water in polar regions. Furthermore, pollution has also been cited as one reason for the decline in ocean oxygen. Pollutants such as discharged sewage and industrial waste, farm fertilizer run-off, etc. trigger oxygen-depleting algal blooms. However, this only explains oxygen reduction in some coastal waters. In contrast, global warming justifies (at least partly) ocean oxygen decline across the globe. ...


This is one aspect of the multitude of disasters unfolding at all levels - from the cellular/generic level up - resulting from ignorant anti-scientific self-interests being allowed to run government policies for fun and profit.

Ignorance is not bliss, and the mad anti-scientists presenting their greed as 'science/technological fixes' cannot any longer be allowed to run the asylum.

No corporate-coup supporting candidate can be elected without effectively ending the chances of our survival and that of life on the planet.

(I presume this will be collapsed when posted?)

Edit: guess not...

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Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.

A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.

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That NASA probe that just started orbiting Jupiter better find us that wormhole soon.

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To say that you already feel pity for the warmongering witch who has deaths of hundreds of thousands and lives shattered of millions of People. My feeling is that the gets sent to "that special place in Hell" which she, Henry Kissinger and Madelyn Albright will share--and may the fires be as remorseless as she is.

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with everyone so far; however, there are many more investigations in which she will be the 'center of attraction' so she has to remain relatively consistent in those talking points (I wasn't careless, I didn't send or receive classified gov't docs). With respect to the 300 or so people she threw under the bus - - that may have been a warning for them to continue keeping their mouths shut.

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she has a very good chance of being the first president to be impeached and removed from office. And, it won't be over anyone's sex life.

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Mary Bennett

With her at the top of the ticket, Republicans will probably pick up seats and they can't wait to start the impeachment proceedings. I don't doubt for a moment there's plenty of evidence against her, and Obama won't be there to protect her anymore. And she won't have the grace to resign in order to avoid conviction as Nixon did. They'll have to carry her out of the White House.

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