HRC Receives Gift Horse, Administers Extensive Dental Exam
If I were an aide-de-camp to Hillary Clinton, I would be tugging on her sleeve at the moment and whispering into her ear that she is standing at the precipice of a giant logic volcano and about to throw herself in.
I am referring to the fact that instead of hiring Tony Robbins to conduct coal walking and team building exercises for her campaign workers, she is now focused on using the entire professional staff of the State Department as human shields for her own poor judgements and actions.
Hillary, sometimes the best course of action is to simply vacate a battlefield and move onto to other skirmishes. Mourn your dead and wounded (like your judgement and your credibility) drink to their memories, but don't hang around and haunt the scene of your defeat, and for heavens sake, don't create even more carcasses by re-enacting your Waterloo yet again and tossing in more troops to sacrifice on the altar of your vanity and hubris.
To what am I referring, you may ask. I am referring to these mind-blowing stories that are appearing that report that Hillary Clinton, despite receiving the greatest gift of all, freedom from the fear of indictment, is turning on her benefactor, FBI Director James Comey and implying that the person displaying the impaired reasoning and decision making in regards to characterizing her actions as exceptional carelessness, is him. She then deflects the limelight from herself to all those government worker bees that she relied on to do the right thing and not disseminate classified materials when communicating with her:
Hillary Rejects FBI Claim That She Was "careless" With Emails - NYT
“I think there are about 300 people in the government, mostly in the State Department, but in other high positions in the government with whom I emailed over the course of four years — they, I believe, did not believe they were sending any material that was classified,” Mrs. Clinton said on CNN. “They were pursuing their responsibilities. I do not think they were careless.”
She added, “And as I have said many times, I certainly did not believe that I received or sent any material that was classified.”
Noble Hillary! Defending the actions of those she drew into her own web of incompetence and malfeasance. How were her underlings supposed to communicate with her except for the unique system she herself set-up, despite the fact that it was insecure and unapproved and violated the guidelines that she herself sent out to all the little people to not do as she did? Instead of setting an example of highest and best practices, she herself was a font of the corruption of standard practices. The FBI director noted that there was a corporate culture of laxness when it came to security procedures in the State Department - Gee, who do you think was leading the way?
And look at how Hillary is setting herself up as the victim - she relied on those underlings to do the right thing! She thought they were professional! She is also sending the message to those career staffers - If the Big Cheese goes down, so do all the smaller wheels. Now that's how to build loyalty.
But here is the real factoid that is pushing Hillary over the logic precipice - she is appearing to say that to this day, she is still maintaining that she did not (does not) believe that she sent any material that was classified. Doesn't the fact that a criminal referral was made to the FBI indicate otherwise? How about the information that not only was some of the material was classified, it was classified at the very highest levels and even as we speak is not available to the public or even to Congress? Should that be a clue that she is 100% wrong and that in maintaining this fiction, she is making herself out to be either delusional or incapable of admitting that she made a mistake, a very serious mistake, but one which the FBI was very magnanimously willing to overlook and to continue to allow her to walk among us?
How is it possible that HRC's self image is so fragile that she has to continue to market this persona of infallibility? If she remains unable to discern the very highest level of classified material up through today, what basis is there for believing she will be able to recognize it as President in the future?
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One supposes
that if she's so vain and sits for hours, reading online of all the stories and all the people, full of hate for her and what she represents, that maybe she's gone around the bend, mentally. Reading that she's on the attack after she got this extraordinary gift from a government that is starting to look like it fears her very presence, makes me wonder, sincerely, about her sanity.
See, if I read all this shit and it was all about me and people hated me that much, I'd just shut down and go away. Yet here she is. It just boggles the mind. When she's done with that dental exam, she's gonna beat that horse to death with a 2 x 4, and then she'll blame all the animal rights people for not stopping her.
This essay was essentially about the tactics
that HRC is displaying right now in re-litigating whether she made some errors with regards to her email usage - I'm saying she is going down the completely wrong path - blaming others and maintaining a provably wrong defense that no classified material appeared on her server.
She'd be a lot better of showing some humility and saying something like, "I did use some poor judgement, but I've learned from this experience, as I said I made a mistake and I hope we all can move along." Something like that would move the ball into better territory for her. Instead, she is calcifying into the candidate who can't admit any personal wrongdoing and is attempting to lay it at the door of others. That's not generally considered to be indicative of good leadership, IMO. She's inviting others to re-litigate along with her, and that will be to her detriment.
" “Human kindness has never weakened the stamina or softened the fiber of a free people. A nation does not have to be cruel to be tough.” FDR "
I think you BOTH are correct
...and the way both things make sense is that this behavior is sociopathic. I think we see it time and again. There is no other way to make sense of it in my estimation. A sociopath can spew this sort of crap and their heart rates won't go up and they won't perspire like regular folks. They get off on conning others and getting away with it. It appears that for her, it is not enough that she's above the law and can get away with anything, but that those who see it for what it is are force-fed the crap they see her doing (if she could get away with executing her enemies, I believe she might well attempt it - this is one un-hinged individual).
'What we are left with is an agency mandated to ensure transparency and disclosure that is actually working to keep the public in the dark' - Ann M. Ravel, former FEC member
Might?
Could you take a moment to explain the basis of your doubt. I think she MIGHT allow a quick and painless execution if she were having a really good day.
She has an especially acute case of CCDS, just like her
supporters. Clinton Cognitive Dissonance Syndrome, of which there apparently is no cure. She is a sociopath for sure and hopefully it will get the best of her before she gets into the oval office.
"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." - JFK | "The more I see of the moneyed peoples, the more I understand the guillotine." - G. B. Shaw Bernie/Tulsi 2020
Actually,
Clintons, both of them, are psychopaths. They certainly fit the description.
So let's call them what they are - psychopaths
Agree! I have long been
Agree! I have long been interested (or at least back when I was feeling better, lol,) in the work of Dr. Robert Hare on psychopaths, although the associated traits used in his questionnaire (haven't read up on this for several years, this may have been refined, plus I'm just starting to caffeinate, lol,) were (as I recall) originally developed by studying imprisoned psychopaths so that various of the associated characteristics then used may not have applied to the most successful psychopaths bolstered by money and power.
The defining characteristics of psychopathy, in my view, are the complete lack of empathy and the inability to see beyond their own egos and wants, to be achieved at any cost to the unimportant others used and abused, the suffering from which abuse may be pursued as enjoyable in itself, especially where the victim has stood in their way - or failed to support them; like corporations, they are incapable of human feelings and often cannot understand that they may themselves suffer consequences as a result of their own actions, as with the TPP et al, ultimately destructive of everyone and everything involved, (including the ever-more-rapidly-even-at-current-rates failing life support system of the Earth, due to industrial/military pollution/destruction) and likely in very short order.
The vindictiveness of the inner circle of Hillary's team is legendary - like attracts like, and in this respect, at least, psychopaths are much like anyone else. She would be far worse than Bush, even if Bush did initiate the corporate coups promoted by Hillary as 'trade deals'. She is far more petty, not to mention likely to expose vulnerable agents to hazard without even the intention at getting back at an agent's spouse for crossing her, but simply due to her consistently displayed poor judgment/carelessness ('I, myself, am untouchable and can do as I please; the consequences always must naturally fall on expendable others') ranging into recklessness and beyond, as with her destructive actions regarding the TPP, donor-promised attacks on other countries and fracking.
Clearly, neither the current Dem presumptive nominee nor the Republican candidate are, shall we say, feasible; failing a miraculous Bernie save, a concerted effort among the aware to vote Green, with carefully laid plans to oversee elections and to record and sue over all indications of voter suppression and electoral cheating, would appear to form the last opportunity for a bloodless political revolution toward democracy in America before control of domestic law in all industrialized countries is officially handed over, by a corrupt new President's acceptance/ratification, to off-shored corporate courts interested only in maximizing the claimed-as-anticipated profits of all of thousands of involved corporate interests and billionaires/multi-millionaires in all countries betrayed into such hostile corporate take-overs and thereafter 'legally' existing only for the purpose of such self-interest's profiteering, at the ultimate cost of life on the planet.
I wouldn't like to bet on anyone having even faked elections among selected corporate management once domestic law and public policy are 'legally' (via unconstitutional private agreements to dispossess The People of their inherent and entailed right of democracy and to commit them to essentially existing only to supply the desired corporate/billionaire profits, at the cost of their health, lives, environment, future and democracy, this presumably to be supported by a predominately 'corporate-friendly' US Supreme court) to be determined only by the greed of any/all of thousands of corporate/billionaire interests squabbling over the remaining scraps on the dwindling corpses of what had been industrialized democracies around the world.
We already know what happens in countries where the people are not protected against corporate depredation - once this has been made 'legal' and global, and with no hope of recourse for any public/country, it then comes down to the wrong sort of last-ditch revolution, the kind we really need to avoid. But in some cases, it seems almost as though, like some pathological Kings of old, some would wish the slaughter of those they view as their servants/serfs to occur at or before their deaths, if not to serve them in some mythical hell, at least to have as their only purpose that of serving them in the hell they created in life, and in this current situation, actually assure that life itself will not long survive their own passing. Keeping them - whether politicians, billionaires or multi-millionaires - out of power and away from public policy decision-making ought to be recognized as imperative. And - apart from Bernie - the Greens are the only democratic option remaining in this US election. Even if the first bout of blatant electoral cheating is (yet again) to be left to stand???!!! the 2nd attempt cannot be, and the American public is now better equipped to understand what they're dealing with.
Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.
The ISDS is a manufactured
The ISDS is a manufactured crisis, much like Supreme Court nominations.
It is clear to me (and has been for many, many years) that the elite will not stop until we're all as poor as the poorest third worlders you've ever seen and there is literally no way to take more from us without losing a lot of money to do it. Living in a garbage dump under a scavenged tin roof, children starving, covered in flies and disease - all that.
It follows that at some point society will finally rebel. (No, there will be no avoiding it, and the sooner everyone accepts that, the better.) Call it revolution or call it social apoptosis; eventually we will fight back, or die trying, or else simply die. I think, or hope, that it will happen before we're ALL scavenging in garbage dumps; hell, I hope it will happen tomorrow, but I don't expect it.
Nevertheless, when the day comes that the people finally start to kill their masters and take everything back, what do you suppose will happen if some lawyer turd from Coca-Cola or Monsanto or Boeing shows up and announces that we're not allowed to rebel because their corporation owns everything and we're costing them profits, so desist immediately?
He'll be sent back in a box, if he's lucky; several, if he isn't.
The ISDS doesn't concern me because it doesn't much matter what form elite oppression takes; the barrel of a gun looks the same whether the person holding it wears a suit, a military uniform, or riot gear, and that gun has the same effect no matter whether it's a law, a royal decree, or a contract clause we're commanded to obey. It won't matter whether we face the state or the corporate state when we finally start fighting back.
I'll second your observation
The more I watch Hiilary -- despite trying my best to ignore her -- the more I see Dick Nixon in a pantsuit. The indicia of a paranoid style are everywhere, despite all the well-produced propaganda meant to conceal it. I fear that if she wins in November she will be impeached, and she will richly deserve it.
Maybe a second, successful Clinton impeachment, taking down all the hangers-on and the financiers behind them, will be the event that finally kills this DLC Democratic Party. Since the Republicans are not fit successors, Hillary may ironically become the mother of a new politics.
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Nixon in a pantsuit LOL! Because ...
When the president does it, that means that it is not illegal
Can't wait!
Cut it out.
Thank you for that
I had only thought it had been said OF him not BY him.
I still find HRC's ties to his impeachment fascinating: http://caucus99percent.com/content/what-hillary-clinton-has-said-histori...
'What we are left with is an agency mandated to ensure transparency and disclosure that is actually working to keep the public in the dark' - Ann M. Ravel, former FEC member
Study: The character of Hillary Rodham Clinton (2001)
http://faculty.csbsju.edu/uspp/clinton-hr/character.html
Brief excerpt:
"It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society." --Jiddu Krishnamurti
That is fascinating
Hillary reminds me very much of a former professional acquaintance of mine whose greatest gift and greatest flaw was always sounding like the most informed and intelligent person on any topic even when that wasn't the case in reality. This was a lesson finally learned by many around her - sounding smart and acting smart was not actually the same thing as being smart.
" “Human kindness has never weakened the stamina or softened the fiber of a free people. A nation does not have to be cruel to be tough.” FDR "
I once worked for someone
who had many of those characteristics, although my superior was not as hard edged and was more sociable than Hillary. I distinctly remember a staff meeting on an issue my superior wanted to push forward with. The issue did not make sense to me so I asked the obvious question, "Can we define the problem that we are trying to solve?" My superior became very angry and responded, "I do not want to talk about problems, I want to talk about solutions." My superior was angry that I asked the obvious question because it was in effect questioning their judgment.
Do I hear the sound of guillotines being constructed?
“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~ President John F. Kennedy
She alone is wise
yet she keeps having to say "hindsight is 20/20" to explain her glaring mistakes. She surrounds herself with only syncophants who only praise her. It's a narcissistic echo chamber and nothing pierces it.
That, right there, is a recipe for disaster in a presidency.
Even the smallest person can change the course of the future
Yes
Inflexibility and the inability to listen to the counsel of others or to view situations from other perspectives is not a good thing.
Do I hear the sound of guillotines being constructed?
“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~ President John F. Kennedy
Same author compiled this in 2015
This piece is among those listed:
'What we are left with is an agency mandated to ensure transparency and disclosure that is actually working to keep the public in the dark' - Ann M. Ravel, former FEC member
If past is prologue
hubis is a fatal flaw.
that will never happen-- one
that will never happen-- one famous phrase by a president "the buck stops here" For Hillary The buck will flow into the Clinton foundation. big difference in trust and integrity between the two
the buck will flow to the CF but the blame will roll downhill
like sh*t
Don't believe everything you think.
Ambiguity in the word "buck"
When Harry Truman said "the Buck stops here" meaning with him, although literally meaning money, it really meant taking responsibility for whatever decisions were his, The President being the ultimate arbiter of Executive duty and responsibility. The "buck" referred to in the above comment by WI58 is appreciated as referring only to the Buck being a monetary entity. In that interpretation, I fully concur.
But as P.L. so aptly points out with assists from several of other commentators above my comment, Hillary's psychopathic desire for both financial enrichment and any other means of self-aggrandizement will only be strengthened by opposition. When people say "no" to her, or merely balk at her commands, she becomes more insistent on obtaining her exact, precise demands. She is the epitome of "I want what I want when I want it". Hillary as the ultimate boss (President / Queen) will be so emboldened by her almost absolute power, that she will brook absolutely NO DEVIATION from her commands--they will not be requests. That trait will be the very reason she will start war(s) because any nation so impudent as to disagree with her plans will (not may) feel the extraordinary military might the U.S. possesses.
But it is this very trait, when combined with others she posses, is actually her Achilles Heel if her opposition is adroit enough to perceive it.
Prime example of her response to opposition, no matter how polite and / or reasonable is to become progressively more intransigent vis-a-vis her treatment of Bernie Sanders. The smear campaign is not what I refer to, though it is a typical Clintonian action style. Even "stupid, negligent" Hillary must be aware of her desperate need to unify Berners behind her, that she should have been playing "nice" and at least sounding conciliatory to Bernie's millions of supporters. Yet despite a cognitively logical need for such an approach, her emotional need is not to placate her opposition--but to smash it.
If Bernie keeps the pressure on by staying in the fight to the convention, this vexation will continue to enrage Clinton. Funny thing about psychopaths, once they are cornered, they reveal themselves to be very thin-skinned about criticism, even though they care naught for the feelings of others. And here is the other blade of the pincers slowly crushing her: this blade actually has at least three parts (maybe more). One is the incipient perjury investigation just initiated. Two is the ongoing FOIA lawsuit by JW. Third may be Comey finally getting incensed about Hillary turning on him after he abrogated his responsibility to indict her.
I would imagine that the physical strain on Clinton must be enormous. First she jet-sets all over the country several times a day, every day, She has to beseech donors to throw more money at her and/or her "Charity". Even for an entitled witch like Hillary, convincing Banksters to part with more money must still take an emotional toll on her. She is no "spring chicken"--in fact, she is an old vulture who has already suffered a concussion and a stroke. She is after all only 5 years younger than Bernie.
So, Medusa may be forced by circumstance to look in the mirror--and thus turn to stone and crumble--maybe she is crumbling now.
It was in the monetary
It was in the monetary perspective as I don't think she would never take any responsibility for her action/ decisions if they went wrong. Others would be thrown under the bus for her actions.
Excellent comment!
This has stood out for me. I have seen this behavior to a lesser extent in my own career, but never to the degree that Hillary Clinton demands. I find her to be very dangerous because of her personality defects, but particularly the one that you point out.
Very astute observation!
Do I hear the sound of guillotines being constructed?
“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~ President John F. Kennedy
I agree with lunachickie.
I think lunachickie is fully cognizant of what this essay was essentially about. She strikes me as a person with good reading skills and a solid grasp of logic, and the points she raised in her comment complemented the essay.
In looking at it, I'm not sure
why I posted that as a reply to lunachickie, it's really more me talking to myself than anything and not really responsive to anything that she wrote. Although, it might be symptomatic of PTSD from TOP where critical comments have to be clothed as "constructive" or you're just another hater.
I actually have no desire to really offer constructive advice to Hillary if it helps her achieve her goal of attaining the Presidency. The day the news came out about her server, I thought she disqualified herself from running simply on the transparency and FOIA side of things, before National Security became any part of the discussion. That's why it's so nice to write here where I'm not subjected to demands for a loyalty oath and countless admonitions to "enjoy President Trump!". If we do end up with a President Trump, I will blame the Democrats for insisting on running a fatally flawed candidate who is the only Democrat who could actually lose to a Trump.
And you're right, lunachickie doesn't need anyone's help in interpreting anything as far as I can tell.
" “Human kindness has never weakened the stamina or softened the fiber of a free people. A nation does not have to be cruel to be tough.” FDR "
100%
I agree 100% that Clinton disqualified herself with her server. The nation experienced a paranoid president that suffered from a burning desire for secrecy -- Nixon. We don't need another.
President Trump doesn't worry me quite as much as President Clinton. I doubt I'll vote for him but I'm positive I can't vote for her.
You were talking to me, Phoebe
I got your message loud and clear--and I think most of your readers did too. BTW, lunachickie and Ellen North, amongst others offered excellent contributions to your essay. Thank you for it.
And you made excellent contributions as well AE
as did just about every single commenter in this essay. I am always pretty well blown away by the quality of the conversations and observations here at the caucus.
" “Human kindness has never weakened the stamina or softened the fiber of a free people. A nation does not have to be cruel to be tough.” FDR "
Indeed. And thank you! Yes, all of this is exactly right...
starting with your excellent essay. I definitely wasn't trying to circumvent or take away from it. Truly, it allowed me to put my finger on what's really been bothering me since Tuesday--the post-rescue (because that's what it was) period of time and the HRC tactics. It is precisely her tactics presented in this situation that made me wonder about her sanity. You worded it so completely clearly and succinctly that it became apparent that's what I was trying to work out in my head:
Clinton is now a walking, talking poster child for the concept of "Shut up while you're still ahead". If she doesn't even get that much, she's either not bright enough to be POTUS or she is coming unglued.
Great, great discussion hence, too. I really did get it and appreciate it!
And we really do finally get it through the ensuing discussion.
I had a point of view when I wrote this piece, but I didn't have the entire picture that my own subconscious was working on and to which you in your comment provided a provided a vital piece -
you said she 'was beating a dead horse and would blame the animal rights people for not stopping her when she was done' which is an incredibly brilliant insight and analogy - because that is exactly what she is doing.
I was caught up on 'why is she beating this dead horse?' to her own detriment without realizing it's the only horse she has
I think your comment slowly sunk in to my subconscious when I somewhat laboriously came to that same realization at the bottom of these comments - she had painted herself into a corner where her only choices were either a sort of invincible ignorance or an acknowledgement that she had knowingly subjugated her responsibility, ostensibly for convenience or possibly some darker reason.
Do we really believe the whole "convenience" angle? Comey pretended to because the alternative didn't fit into his own narrative where her actions were not driven by a conscious desire to subvert the law - but the mystery and crime readers of the world among us would instinctively reject this premise and his acceptance of it.
I have always said that "People who hide things have things to hide."
I will now add a new corollary - "People who don't find things often aren't looking very hard."
Comey didn't find intent because he never looked for it and IMO averted his eyes anytime it may have leaped in front of him.
Perhaps I have ingested too much Perry Mason or Miss Marple or Nancy Drew throughout my life, but The Instance of Secretary's Server was solved for me when the maid asked innocently why the lady of the house donned galoshes when it wasn't raining.
" “Human kindness has never weakened the stamina or softened the fiber of a free people. A nation does not have to be cruel to be tough.” FDR "
Dream on
That's more of an explanation than she gave for her Iraq War vote and that resulted in hundreds of thousands of people dead, maimed and/ore displaced and also de-stablized the Middle East.
She probably never sees that.
She has associates who give her filtered news. Totally disconnected to humans who have not gotten the nod that they will be loyal as sword-falling. Because she is special. Did her usual stylist go on vacation? That PBS interview she looks older than the elderly interviewer, who has had facial surgery. Hillary had at least fillers injected.
Catty now, but what are her stylists doing to make her look more elderly , creased and worn by applying BLUSHER to her pancake makeup face? Women see this, it's wrong yes, but I still have nightmares about my great-aunt Kate, who would always apply two circles of rouge where she thought they should be? Clown.
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Exactly! For decades, since
Exactly! For decades, since her (double batch of) 1st Lady days began, she's been isolated and protected from reality by money/power/Secret Service - and, worst of all, a fanatically adulatory inner circle. Apart from all other issues, this is not a good situation for the understanding/experience of anyone potentially holding public office...
'The people have no bread, nor have they cake? Let them eat ordure sandwiches! Hahaha!'
Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.
lunachickie
Thank you for the smile...didn't think I"d be able to smile again...but this:
When she's done with that dental exam, she's gonna beat that horse to death with a 2 x 4, and then she'll blame all the animal rights people for not stopping her.
Perfection.
Also, now, Her MustGoAwayness is now telling "white" people how to behave- she who practically pushed away a young ( she paid to attend) BLM woman from a fundraiser...remember...maybe we could gather some of those hideously arrogant actions - and make our own GO AWAY AD.
Enough is so much more now than Enough.
Go Away.
Shameless is a word that comes to mind
She has no shame.
Beware the bullshit factories.
She's a sociopath, plain and simple.
I'm beginning to believe she's worse than Cheney.
yep
Don't believe everything you think.
She is not always glib.
She is not always glib.
Charm? What charm?
lol, i wondered that also... totally w/o charm.
Don't believe everything you think.
She needs to work on her superficial charm
She's possibly the most charmless persona on the national stage today (including Trump).
Gëzuar!!
from a reasonably stable genius.
Nice! That got a belly laugh outta me!
...and very, very true - she is deficient in this area. Sociopaths really should at least be charming while they destroy others.
'What we are left with is an agency mandated to ensure transparency and disclosure that is actually working to keep the public in the dark' - Ann M. Ravel, former FEC member
She doesn't have #1
I wouldn't know about #s6-8.
#2, #3,#4, and #5? Oh hell yeah.
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Its part of the pattern...
Defending every "Free Pass" or "Get Out Of Jail Free" card with indignation forever...
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Exactly so. n/t
'What we are left with is an agency mandated to ensure transparency and disclosure that is actually working to keep the public in the dark' - Ann M. Ravel, former FEC member
Fantastic essay. Thank you. N/T
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" “Human kindness has never weakened the stamina or softened the fiber of a free people. A nation does not have to be cruel to be tough.” FDR "
She said
In other words, 'I worked as Secretary of State for four years, and never dealt with any classified information.'
You know, maybe she could do that as President, too? It would be the Most Transparent Administration Evah!
"I’m a human being, first and foremost, and as such I’m for whoever and whatever benefits humanity as a whole.” —Malcolm X
Your comment just cries out for a graphic!
I said the same thing over at another site (not TOP) the other day. We know that she used her clintonemail.com address exclusively while she was Sec. of State. I think i read that there was a state.gov account set up for her, but she never activated it.
I would like to see a journalist pose the question to her this way:
"Sec. Clinton, you have said that you never knowingly sent or received information using your clintonemail.com account. What email account did you use when it was necessary for you to send or receive classified information?"
That's beautiful, Mike,
especially the photo. perfect. My partner tells me you have been making these a lot lately.
"I’m a human being, first and foremost, and as such I’m for whoever and whatever benefits humanity as a whole.” —Malcolm X
Thank you and yes, I do make a lot of graphics
It's cheaper than going for therapy.
I especially like that first one! "I approve/oppose this
message". Ha! She'll swing back tomorrow.
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Considering that she's
Considering that she's promised in a Brookings speech that the lovely and charming Bibi will be brought into policy discussions with great promptitude, perhaps she simply referred all classified information elsewhere to someone else's, so that her highly polished server(s) never saw any?
Oh, wait, it's been proven that she simply lied and tried to destroy the evidence - displaying experience of a sort...
Edit to add link, (bolding mine) for anyone not yet seeing this:
https://theintercept.com/2015/09/09/hillary-clinton-goes-militaristic-ha...
Hillary Clinton Goes to Militaristic, Hawkish Think Tank, Gives Militaristic, Hawkish Speech
Glenn Greenwald
Sep. 9 2015
...As for Israel itself, Clinton eagerly promised to shower it with a long, expensive, and dangerous list of gifts. Here’s just a part of what that country can expect from the second President Clinton:
I will deepen America’s unshakeable commitment to Israel’s security, including our long standing tradition of guaranteeing Israel’s qualitative military edge. I’ll increase support for Israeli rocket and missile defenses and for intelligence sharing. I’ll sell Israel the most sophisticated fire aircraft ever developed. The F-35. We’ll work together to develop and implement better tunnel detection technology to prevent arms smuggling and kidnapping as well as the strongest possible missile defense system for Northern Israel, which has been subjected to Hezbollah’s attacks for years.
She promised she “will sustain a robust military presence in the [Persian Gulf] region, especially our air and naval forces.” She vowed to “increase security cooperation with our Gulf allies” — by which she means the despotic regimes in Saudi Arabia, United Arab Emirates and Qatar, among others. She swore she will crack down even further on Hezbollah: “It’s time to eliminate the false distinction that some still make between the supposed political and military wings. If you’re part of Hezbollah, you’re part of a terrorist organization, plain and simple.”
Then she took the ultimate pledge: “I would not support this agreement for one second if I thought it put Israel in greater danger.” So even if the deal would benefit the U.S., she would not support it “for one second” if it “put Israel in greater danger.” That’s an unusually blunt vow to subordinate the interests of the U.S. to that foreign nation.
But when it comes to gifts to Israel, that’s not all! Echoing the vow of several GOP candidates to call Netanyahu right away after being elected, Clinton promised: “I would invite the Israeli prime minister to the White House during my first month in office to talk about all of these issues and to set us on a course of close, frequent consultation right from the start, because we both rely on each other for support as partners, allies and friends.” She then addressed “the people of Israel,” telling them: “Let me say, you’ll never have to question whether we’re with you. The United States will always be with you.” For good measure, she heaped praise on “my friend Chuck Schumer,” who has led the battle to defeat the Iran Deal, gushing about what an “excellent leader in the Senate” he will make. What’s a little warmongering among friends?...
Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.
A vote for Hillary is a vote for Netanyahu
and the even more extreme Israelis to the right of him politically.
No two ways about it — want a second "new Pearl Harbor"? Vote D this year, vote Hillary.
Comey highlighted this in his testimony & people were boggled
he specifically said that BEFORE this event, he believed that no one at State could possibly miss the classification marks on documents, and that he had come to believe it IS possible to miss. She convinced him that she believes this.
There are books about the behavior of sociopaths - perhaps he should read one.
'What we are left with is an agency mandated to ensure transparency and disclosure that is actually working to keep the public in the dark' - Ann M. Ravel, former FEC member
Speaking of logic volcanoes
Comey jumped into one himself.
His whole investigation was initiated ( I think) by a referral from the IG about the presence of classified material on Hillary's server, or at least that's what he said. AND YET he stated that they did not investigate HOW and WHO took the material from the secured systems? Wouldn't determining that been the entire point of the investigation in the first place?
" “Human kindness has never weakened the stamina or softened the fiber of a free people. A nation does not have to be cruel to be tough.” FDR "
you would think.
"I’m a human being, first and foremost, and as such I’m for whoever and whatever benefits humanity as a whole.” —Malcolm X
Dammit, if the people start
Dammit, if the people start thinking, the whole oligarchy falls apart! Stop it at once!
Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.
Exactly!!!
An SoS who never saw/worked with classified material???!!! WTF!
Who believes this?
Gëzuar!!
from a reasonably stable genius.
Precisely! Handling classified docs WAS her job,
that argument makes no sense at all. If she wasn't dealing w/classified material, what the hell was she emailing -- links to cat videos? But I have not heard one single reporter or mediot ask that question.
Hell is empty and all the devils are here. William Shakespeare
Hilbots.
"I’m a human being, first and foremost, and as such I’m for whoever and whatever benefits humanity as a whole.” —Malcolm X
HRC is a ...
P-S-Y-C-H-O-P-A-T-H!
They are always right because, in their malformed brains, they are superior to, smarter than, and more deserving than others. They are shallow, but clever. They go over the precipice and beyond the point where others fear to tread because they are entitled and fearless. They lie, cheat, and steal their way to where they want to go. If you ever cross them, they will destroy you, and make it look like you did it to yourself. Bill is also a psychopath, which is why they are so deadly. Read The Psychopath Next Door. You'll learn to recognize them. Invisibility is their greatest strength because, by the time you realize and acknowledge they are damaged, it's too late.
Bingo! I've been saying sociopath
I'm not sure where the line is drawn exactly between the two, but she's DEFINITELY on that spectrum (along with her BFF* David Brock who has done so much to orchestrate her run).
*Sociopaths really aren't capable of having BFF's - one will end up throwing the other under the bus if and when it serves them.
'What we are left with is an agency mandated to ensure transparency and disclosure that is actually working to keep the public in the dark' - Ann M. Ravel, former FEC member
At last check, there is still no difference and the terms
are interchangeable. There is a distinction between organic and environmental cause, IIUC.
I imagine that hers is innate to her, hence organic... n/t
'What we are left with is an agency mandated to ensure transparency and disclosure that is actually working to keep the public in the dark' - Ann M. Ravel, former FEC member
I'm intrigued by the distinction between organic &
environmental causes of socio/psychopathy. Suppose we can agree that, for instance, both the corporate environment, especially at the upper management levels, as well as certain levels of government are strong environmental causes for this mental illness in certain susceptible individuals? We do have evidence that certain strong psyches can resist this, for instance Bernie Sanders. So, what have we got? Screenings (besides the voting process) to weed out weaker psyches, perhaps. Or necessary psych evals periodically (for the good of the person, of course, although the people also benefit.)
I'm not really advocating this because psychiatrists can become Big Brothers as easily as pols. But I can fantasize.
Psychopathic traits are
Psychopathic traits are certainly strongly apparent in Hillary's history and current behaviours; however, actual diagnosis must, of course, be carefully made by professionals.
Studies used in the formation of the Hare Checklist were typically conducted on imprisoned psychopaths, not so much successful ones bolstered by money and power who are in positions of power sufficient to gain a high degree of immunity - and, in example, therefore do achieve higher education and high-level jobs. Therefore (this is only my theory, based on the types within cohorts generally used and on other studies/findings/examples read in the past) some of the characteristics associated with psychopaths who might be lower-level con-men or have been arrested for violent behaviours, 'minor' fraud or other 'petty' crimes, etc. may not be apparent in the high-level public servant or CEO otherwise rating high on the scale of psychopathic traits.
https://www.psychologytoday.com/articles/199401/charming-psychopath
...
Persons of this type must be kept out of positions where they hold power over others - and most especially out of the public service, which has already been warped into the reverse by the pathological corporate culture controlling what's intended to be government of, by and for the people.
http://www.hare.org/scales/pclr.html
Psychopathy Scales
Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.
May I add one corollary to your comment?
The corollary is this: psychopaths will pass blame onto everyone but themselves. In the current lexicon, this is often referred to as "throwing someone under the bus". But psychopaths are notorious for seeking more severe measures of revenge--e.g., tales of the Clinton Crime family and mysterious deaths of people who either knew too much, or, literally outlived their usefulness.
I subscribe to the idea that the more one wants power,
the less one is suited to be trusted with it.
Google (YouTube in this case), causes my security protocols
to reset my connection (in certain cases), which causes caucus99 to reset their connection, and I can make duplicate posts/replies.
Delete would be easier...
I have one for you...
yesterday, on Chrome I tried to search on YouTube for Clinton Sniper Fire to show someone who had not seen the mashups and I got a bizarre Google error message which said it could not be done.
When I tried the same search on FireFox, the expected array of vids came up.
Thanks, The Groundwork and Scrub The Record!
'What we are left with is an agency mandated to ensure transparency and disclosure that is actually working to keep the public in the dark' - Ann M. Ravel, former FEC member
...and I fucking hate Google and M$ and what they're
doing to the web.
Me too! Windows OS is a security disaster
and stuffing everything in to port 80 is stupid just stupid. But users can click and swipe their shit and feel empowered so... Public Relations for the win!
Monopolies suck and oligarchs love 'em. So does the Surveillance industry. Just say "innovation" and people's minds shut off I don't why.
Mrs. Bitterman
If all the Clinton scams were known
prison would barely be considered sufficient punishment. They may be the most corrupt politicians in the history of our country, and that is saying a lot
Jeez, Hillary.
FBI Director Comey told her to "Cut it out." But she won't. Just like Wall Street didn't "cut it out" when she told them to behave.
"Just call me Hillbilly Dem(exit)."
-H/T to Wavey Davey
She takes her orders from
She takes her orders from elsewhere, of course, which is why she gets the big bucks.
http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2016/02/hillary-clinton-backed-major-repu...
Frankly, I wouldn't ever want to see Liz Warren taken out of the battle to contain banksters, where she displays common sense and tenacity, into areas where the fact that she's OK with the most megalomaniac polluting corporations such as Monsanto could add to existing problems with corporations effectively draining, regulating and poisoning the public and environment, which means life and death - as well as any hope of democracy - for the rest of us.
And Americans need to evade the corner they're being boxed into, thinking outside this restrictive box, to massively vote against both evils to vote Green en masse and to take note of to protest/sue over all examples of the massive cheating which we now know can be expected in the General.
Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.
Doubling down us the name of her game.
Let's get this straight once and fore all, peeps, her heinous is NEVER to blame for ANYTHING. Until we get that through all of our tiny little brains, we need to STFU and let her have her walk in the park and her turn in the WH. Bill got a turn, dammit! What don't you understand about that???
"The “jumpers” reminded us that one day we will all face only one choice and that is how we will die, not how we will live." Chris Hedges on 9/11
most people can't see themselves for what they are
and will never accept what other people see in them. They will not bend, nor break, they simply will destroy themselves and pull everyone around them down with them. It has happened thousands of times. She had fought so hard for all the right causes (at least in her mind), while falling over them and stumble. She can't negate her life-time work just to give in and walk away. Most people can't do that. If they are forced to do so, they don't get over it and carry a grudge for the mean people in the world, who just misunderstood them. They might just carry a lifelong "sniff, sniff, you are so mean" in their heart.
It would surprise me greatly, if she ever would just walk away and resign. She is falling in her own traps she used so skillfully to trap others in.
Just look at her facial expressions in the interview with Judy Woodruff. Do you see what I see?
I do not want to see her (or her husband and their foundation) in power, but I can already feel pity for her, because there is an end to her life's work and career, whenever and however it will happen. But there is an end to everything, the good and the bad. May be it helps not to forget that.
https://www.euronews.com/live
History will remember her for what she is
...and will destroy everything she has polluted - she WILL be found out at some point.
It would be BETTER if those of us around NOW can put a stop to this crap BEFORE she does more harm to little people here and around the world!
'What we are left with is an agency mandated to ensure transparency and disclosure that is actually working to keep the public in the dark' - Ann M. Ravel, former FEC member
I don't disagree with you /nt
https://www.euronews.com/live
No disagreement here.
This concerns me very much.
'What we are left with is an agency mandated to ensure transparency and disclosure that is actually working to keep the public in the dark' - Ann M. Ravel, former FEC member
???
I agree with you it would be good to stop her from getting power and winning the nomination.
https://www.euronews.com/live
Looks like I meant to attach reply to the comment below
...about HRC triggering WWIII
'What we are left with is an agency mandated to ensure transparency and disclosure that is actually working to keep the public in the dark' - Ann M. Ravel, former FEC member
One problem with this premise
Who will be around to read history, much less write it, it Hillary triggers WWIII?
Vowing To Oppose Everything Trump Attempts.
Not to mention the industrial
Not to mention the industrial/military pollution/destruction-created and snowballing die-off and collapse of the natural life-support system, (with even the ocean currents, a major oxygen producer, slowing) so that at current rates (pre-TTP-type-global-corporate coup) it's been estimated that the Earth will likely be unable to produce enough oxygen to support life within about 90 years, meaning trouble long before this.
This will occur faster, of course, when corporations and billionaires are 'legally' entitled under Trojan Horse 'trade deal' hostile corporate take-overs of all industrialized democracies to do whatever they want in and to all involved people and countries for their own maximized profits - which the people are then purportedly under this obliged to supply, one way or another, at the corporate/billionaire's own anticipated rates, even when it directly kills them - and can simply sue the people of all countries into bankruptcy in order to rob and pollute with absolute impunity.
(The [undated] following does, however, claim that steadily worsening issues are 'completely natural' and not caused by humans, despite the pollutants continually poured into the oceans and other water sources, to the point where something I read some time back had found that isolated areas thought to be pristine were industrially polluted by the poop of nesting seabirds consuming industrially polluted fish.)
http://worldoceanreview.com/en/wor-1/ocean-chemistry/oxygen/
(Note date here - this has long been known.)
http://www.treehugger.com/natural-sciences/ocean-adead-zonesa-increasing...
https://coastalscience.noaa.gov/news/climate/oceanic-continental-margin-...
http://e360.yale.edu/feature/a_looming_oxygen_crisis_and_its_impact_on_w...
05 A
But the die-off and Arctic melt/warming is proceeding much faster than was anticipated - life is interdependent as well as complex, having evolved over billions of years through trial and error eliminating previous fatal genetic traits/behaviours without previously entirely destroying developed life itself in the process - and when too many of the threads of the web of life have been torn out, there can be no repair.
http://www.standardmedia.co.ke/lifestyle/article/2000184261/global-warmi...
Globa
ii. ...
We need to begin the shift away from fossil fuels and end fracking now - not continue the race to predictable disaster.
http://www.climateemergencyinstitute.com/ocean_oxy_karen_vt.html
Clima
This is one aspect of the multitude of disasters unfolding at all levels - from the cellular/generic level up - resulting from ignorant anti-scientific self-interests being allowed to run government policies for fun and profit.
Ignorance is not bliss, and the mad anti-scientists presenting their greed as 'science/technological fixes' cannot any longer be allowed to run the asylum.
No corporate-coup supporting candidate can be elected without effectively ending the chances of our survival and that of life on the planet.
(I presume this will be collapsed when posted?)
Edit: guess not...
Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.
Not enough oxygen? Sounds like Earth in the movie "Interstellar"
That NASA probe that just started orbiting Jupiter better find us that wormhole soon.
You are a very compassionate person
To say that you already feel pity for the warmongering witch who has deaths of hundreds of thousands and lives shattered of millions of People. My feeling is that the gets sent to "that special place in Hell" which she, Henry Kissinger and Madelyn Albright will share--and may the fires be as remorseless as she is.
Wonderfully written! And I agree
with everyone so far; however, there are many more investigations in which she will be the 'center of attraction' so she has to remain relatively consistent in those talking points (I wasn't careless, I didn't send or receive classified gov't docs). With respect to the 300 or so people she threw under the bus - - that may have been a warning for them to continue keeping their mouths shut.
I continue to believe
she has a very good chance of being the first president to be impeached and removed from office. And, it won't be over anyone's sex life.
Mary Bennett
I agree.
With her at the top of the ticket, Republicans will probably pick up seats and they can't wait to start the impeachment proceedings. I don't doubt for a moment there's plenty of evidence against her, and Obama won't be there to protect her anymore. And she won't have the grace to resign in order to avoid conviction as Nixon did. They'll have to carry her out of the White House.
Twain Disciple
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