#StillSanders, but if he does endorse Hillary, I will not be following
I'm with John Pilger on this. It's the wars stupid! There are so many reasons not to support Hillary but more wars is a major reason.
In the 2008 presidential campaign, Hillary Clinton threatened to “totally obliterate” Iran with nuclear weapons. As Secretary of State under Obama, she participated in the overthrow of the democratic government of Honduras. Her contribution to the destruction of Libya in 2011 was almost gleeful. When the Libyan leader, Colonel Gaddafi, was publicly sodomised with a knife – a murder made possible by American logistics – Clinton gloated over his death: “We came, we saw, he died.”
One of Clinton’s closest allies is Madeleine Albright, the former Secretary of State, who has attacked young women for not supporting “Hillary”. This is the same Madeleine Albright who infamously celebrated on TV the death of half a million Iraqi children as “worth it”.
I have no kind words for Trump but regarding more war:
Donald Trump is a symptom of this, but he is also a maverick. He says the invasion of Iraq was a crime; he doesn’t want to go to war with Russia and China. The danger to the rest of us is not Trump, but Hillary Clinton. She is no maverick. She embodies the resilience and violence of a system whose vaunted “exceptionalism” is totalitarian with an occasional liberal face.
If it's between Hillary and Trump I'll probably be voting for Stein and leaving the Dem. party. If that results in a Trump presidency, so be it. Bernie says Trump is a pathological liar, but we've known for a long time that Hillary is a congenital liar.
It's a sad day.
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I feel the same way you do.
But I actually might vote for Trump because I know my state will vote for Hillary, so I figure my vote is more important to defeat her by voting for Trump versus voting for Stein. I'll make my decision when I enter the voting booth (or vote by mail) in November or October.
While I agree with you
on the importance of defeating $hillary, and understand the frustration that might lead to a Trump vote, I would ask you to seriously consider a vote for Jill. It is the only way to measure the progressive vote that totally rejects the corruption of the Democratic Party. A vote for Trump will only be lost in the background noise. With Bernie out of the race Jill is the only progressive voice in the running and merits your consideration. #NeverHillary
I'd rather learn from one bird how to sing than teach ten thousand stars how not to dance. - e.e.cummings
If you are only going to vote for Trump because he can't win
anyway, why not vote for Stein and have it at least count towards something? If I decide to vote for Trump, it will be to help her lose Michigan. I care more about her losing than I do about Trump winning. If she loses, the New Dems lose. If they lose, we win. However it is your vote, and you need to do what is right for you.
"Religion is what keeps the poor from murdering the rich."--Napoleon
The Force Multiplier...
Not Voting For Hillary and casting a vote for Trump is kinda like a 2 for 1 sale...
I get it...
She doesn't...
I'm the only person standing between Richard Nixon and the White House."
~John F. Kennedy~
Economic: -9.13, Social: -7.28,
Sanders may feel he's
Sanders may feel he's obligated to support her, but that's on him. Nobody else is forced to follow his example and I don't intend to.
To his credit though, he does seem to be trying to find a way to satisfy his honor(he did promise to ultimately support her after all) and his conscience(he sees how inadequate she is to the task, and if another option doesn't present himself is at least trying to hold off the inevitable as long as possible)
They say that there's a broken light for every heart on Broadway
They say that life's a game and then they take the board away
They give you masks and costumes and an outline of the story
And leave you all to improvise their vicious cabaret-- A. Moore
Yeah, how can he endorse her yet fight for his own nomination
... at the same time at the convention -- he should only endorse her at or after Philly
Agree, it's painful to watch Bernie try to reconcile a possible
endorsement. I won't lose respect for him, I just can't follow.
It seems to me that Bernie is signaling
…to his supporters. There are words he cannot say to them, right now.
He's busy positioning himself and laying groundwork for something. What words has he repeated most in recent weeks? What point has he made most frequently?
::: shrug :::
I'm not a Bernie expert, but it feels like there's a message here.
IMAGINE if you woke up the day after a US Presidential Election and headlines around the the world blared, "The Majority of Americans Refused to Vote in US Presidential Election! What Does this Mean?"
That's just a brilliant essay by Pilger.
I'm grateful you linked to it.
I keep a special folder named "DO" on my browser bar. When I read something that reminds me of why I'm stuck on this miserable shithole planet, and what I should be doing to trigger evolution, and make things better before they blink out — I dragged Pilger into the my "DO" folder.
I haven't done that in awhile. There's been a drought, everywhere, in creative strategic thinking. I see it here, too. At a time when anything is possible and power is available, folks are wandering around looking inward, having an existential dilemma over which vote will make their souls feel soothed; said votes effectively thrown out the window toward an imagined future, without a map to get there in time.
That time is now. The US propaganda is thicker than ever before, yet there are still winning strategies. They can't be taught, they must be learned to be effective. I'm not seeing any signs of that yet.
As you say, Pilger is an essential read.
IMAGINE if you woke up the day after a US Presidential Election and headlines around the the world blared, "The Majority of Americans Refused to Vote in US Presidential Election! What Does this Mean?"
the information age hasn't been kind to us......
on the one hand many of us can see the problems more clearly, but, for many, focusing on solutions is difficult due to the deluge of information.
That is where the genius of Bernie Sanders is apparent. He was able to communicate and educate some pretty complex issues and bring them to the masses in a way that has not been seen in a long, long time.
As usual, Mark Twain said it best
The political revolution demands an entirely new form of politics. The Sanders campaign showed us some of the elements of that new politics, and Occupy showed us others. We don't have that new form developed yet, however, and we can only try to learn further necessary lessons. I don't think masses in the streets is the answer in the 21st century, as it was in the early 20th. We need to learn to leverage all the online tools and social media networks into something at least as powerful as mass street demonstrations were in the 1930's. Strikes will need to be reinvented too, in order to reassert the economic power of the masses against the oligarchs.
I'm probably too old to usefully contribute, but I think a lot of newly-involved young people will find creativity I could never dream of. It's not like they have any choice....
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I think the Sanders campaign was brilliant in the use of a new
form of politics. They ran into the wall of systemic corruption and voter suppression.
I agree that masses in the streets would not work today. The 1% fears that and is ready with its control of security.
Age has nothing to do with it Doc. Bernie is the best example of that.
Rome wasn't built in a day.
I think we are in the middle of a realignment. Traditional (i.e. since the 1960s) notions of left and right are coming undone. Mass media is dying in favor of niche media. Sanders showed us that a campaign can be funded on small donations. Occupy said what everybody knew but was afraid to articulate: the system is rigged.
Things are changing as they always do. I think this election is the last hurrah of the status quo.
You have a voice--and it is useful!
Thanks for the Pilger link
True, sad and depressing as shit. So glad you shared it, and I read it. Obama or Clintons, which is the most disgusting.
"Religion is what keeps the poor from murdering the rich."--Napoleon
Bernie Sander is free to do as he will.
Personally, I do my research and don't give a damn about endorsements. The question for me is who is the best candidate: Johnson or Stein? (I'm leaning Stein, but I'm open to persuasion here.)