Hillary might be in real trouble

[Update] It's getting real for Hillary.

For months, the U.S. State Department has stood behind its former boss Hillary Clinton as she has repeatedly said she did not send or receive classified information on her unsecured, private email account, a practice the government forbids.

While the department is now stamping a few dozen of the publicly released emails as "Classified," it stresses this is not evidence of rule-breaking. Those stamps are new, it says, and do not mean the information was classified when Clinton, the Democratic frontrunner in the 2016 presidential election, first sent or received it.

But the details included in those "Classified" stamps — which include a string of dates, letters and numbers describing the nature of the classification — appear to undermine this account, a Reuters examination of the emails and the relevant regulations has found.

The new stamps indicate that some of Clinton's emails from her time as the nation's most senior diplomat are filled with a type of information the U.S. government and the department's own regulations automatically deems classified from the get-go — regardless of whether it is already marked that way or not.

In the small fraction of emails made public so far, Reuters has found at least 30 email threads from 2009, representing scores of individual emails, that include what the State Department's own "Classified" stamps now identify as so-called 'foreign government information.' The U.S. government defines this as any information, written or spoken, provided in confidence to U.S. officials by their foreign counterparts.

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I'll keep this short.

She broke policy

A federal judge on Thursday said that Hillary Rodham Clinton did not comply with government policies in her exclusive use of a personal email account while she was secretary of state, challenging her longstanding position that she abided by the rules.
At a hearing for a Freedom of Information Act lawsuit against the State Department, the judge, Emmet G. Sullivan of Federal District Court for the District of Columbia, said that “we wouldn’t be here today if the employee had followed government policy.”
Judge Sullivan also opened the door for the F.B.I., which is investigating whether there was classified information on Mrs. Clinton’s account, to expand its inquiry to pursue emails that she may have deleted.

Law Enforcement is investigating

U.S. law enforcement officials are investigating how classified material found its way into messages that members of Hillary Clinton’s State Department staff sent to her private e-mail address, according to a U.S. official with knowledge of the inquiry...
This transfer of classified information onto a server not approved to handle sensitive material is a focus of the investigation and could form the basis for a criminal probe to determine just how much classified material was sent - and who prepared and sent it....
“There’s a responsibility to safeguard classified information,” Michael Hayden, former director of the National Security Agency and CIA, said in a phone interview. Failing to protect such data “could get to a level of negligence that criminal penalties would kick in.”
The probe comes after the inspector general for U.S. intelligence agencies determined that four e-mails on Clinton’s server contained classified information at the time they were sent.

Personally I think the email issues aren't all that important, but her campaign was floundering even before this. This is becoming a real scandal, not a fake one. Even if nothing illegal is turned up, this could easily hang over Hillary's campaign for many months.
And if this turns into criminal charges, even if Hillary is ultimately found innocent, then her campaign would probably be over.
But Hillary is ahead, so how can she be floundering? This is how.

Scroll all the way down to question #46, which asks, "Would you say that Hillary Clinton is honest and trustworthy or not?"

Thirty-two percent of respondents in Florida and Pennsylvania said she was; 34 percent of Ohioans said so. Just in case that's too much math for you: Only one in three voters in the three largest swing states in the country think that the overwhelming favorite for the Democratic nomination is honest and trustworthy.

But wait, you say! Context matters. I bet those same voters trust the Republican frontrunners even less!

Except, again, no.

The only Republican candidate with honest/trustworthy numbers like Clinton is Donald Trump. And, Trump's numbers are still not as bad as Clinton's. His lowest score on the honest/trustworthy measure is in Ohio where just 37 percent of voters say those words describe him.

When The Donald is considered more trustworthy than you, your campaign has a serious problem.

[Update] Hillary's legal defense has holes

Hillary Clinton’s campaign this week stepped up its defense of the Democratic front-runner’s use of a private email server while serving as secretary of state, arguing on Wednesday that Clinton, in the worst-case scenario, was simply a “passive recipient of unwitting information that subsequently became deemed as classified.”

But those with deep expertise in the classification system say it’s not so simple.

While emphasizing that Clinton’s defense cannot be judged until the content of the messages are fully analyzed, fellow diplomats and other specialists said on Thursday that if any emails were blatantly of a sensitive nature, she could have been expected to flag it.

“She might have had some responsibility to blow the whistle,” said former Ambassador Thomas Pickering, who served under the former secretary of state and oversaw a department review of the deadly attack in 2012 on the U.S. consulate in Benghazi, Libya, a subject of some of the most scrutinized of Clinton’s emails.

“The recipient may have an induced kind of responsibility,” Pickering added, “if they see something that appears to be a serious breach of security.”

It is a view shared by J. William Leonard, who between 2002 and 2008 was director of the Information Security Oversight Office, which oversees the government classification system.

He pointed out that all government officials given a security clearance are required to sign a nondisclosure agreement, which states they are responsible if secrets leak – whether the information was “marked or not.”

What's more, Hillary had a history of email security breaches.

Despite a hack two years ago that publicly exposed Hillary Clinton’s emails, the State Department took no action to shore up the security of the former secretary of state’s private computer server.
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gulfgal98's picture

I just wanted to tell you that I saw your picture the other day. You are a beautiful lady, both inside and out. Keep your kind heart always.

I wonder if the racial gaps in the US will lessen significantly in the future. It seems as though young people mostly do not care about race just as most do not care about gender identification. So perhaps there is hope in the US in the future for much less racism on the personal level. The institutional level is going to be slower to come around.

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“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~ President John F. Kennedy

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racial inequalities will lessen, unless socio-economic and faith-based inequalities lessen as well. Don't think it has something to do with age. The pain hurts independent from your age. If it looks like the young are more tolerant and don't care about gender or race identification and there identity policies, I think it has more to do with all genders and races feel any pain equally and all they want is not feel the hurt. So, they come together and help each other out, because if they wouldn't they all would feel way more pain than being by-standers. And I also believe that many of the gender issues are confusing them so much that they might suffer under it, but are in denial about it. I think it depends on your family and school environment you have grown up in.

But I must say, I am not that sure about what I feel about it. I am unfortunately pretty old already and definitely when it comes to sexism and racism issues I am dinosaur. I like to eat and munch on "Godwyn" plants and can get ferocious over torture, mental and physical one, and slavery issues. I can't speak for the US, as you know. In Germany I see a dangerous revival of racially and economically based hatred against brown and black incoming refugees and asylum seekers. I am a bit horrified to see that happening in many Eastern European countries. I can't speak for France or England. The US is a whole other animal in that regard.

I wished inequalities of any kind were erased and equality of any kind better protected by laws and government institutions. That pretty much is broken in the US. I see it as a serious political fight that has to happen to bring about changes. But then if you look at it, even socially more advanced countries like Sweden, Denmark can have those race-based outbreaks. As I said before, you can't really control racial feelings, you just can try to contain them in a bottle and ask for laws that make sure that you don't let the devil out of the bottle. Smile

BTW that photo... I look more fat in that photo than I am. How do I "luv" to have my photo up there, darn it /s. I can so much walk in the shoes of those I tool photos of in my old photo diaries. Most of them did't like it to have photos of themselves being posted in those diaries, unless you are "famous" or completely "unknown".

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with hr's for my comment defending myself.
My point was that being anti-GMO food for environmental reasons does not put us in the same category as "truthers" "anti-vaxxers" and "climate deniers." That insult was in the title of the diary. According to the bullies I am so "wrong, uneducated, stupid, frightened." On the contrary, I think it is they who are frightened by any opposition to their stand defending the GMO industry. Just what are they afraid of that they have to stamp out even the mildest protest?

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To thine own self be true.

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I just stay away from the rabid 'science' purists. They love Monsanto and Nukes and brook no other truths but their own myopic peer reviewed absolutes. Everything other then believing the indisputable facts means you a fundamentalist, pig ignorant, anti-science, and dangerous threat to the herd.

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"Religion is what keeps the poor from murdering the rich."--Napoleon

is yet to be seen - although I suspect it may be a bfd before it's over. What's already obvious, for most, is her grotesque arrogance and sense of entitlement. She really thinks she's above the rules - and doesn't care if it bothers us that she feels that way.

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because of this:

What's already obvious, for most, is her grotesque arrogance and sense of entitlement.

It is something she cannot hide. It oozes out of her pores. This is the number one reason why her handlers continue to keep her under wraps.

It is such a huge contrast to Bernie, who though he is gruff and not particularly charming, oozes authenticity because that is what he is. Authenticity is something that cannot be "packaged" or faked like the charm that Bill uses. And even though she may try, Hillary is a very bad actress.

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Do I hear the sound of guillotines being constructed?

“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~ President John F. Kennedy

I'll have a sad. What she did was so easily avoidable and now it's biting her. I'll even be somewhat sad if she loses the primary, even though I fully support Bernie, and I have a very low opinion of dems like HRC.

I used to like her a lot. I think she is very accomplished and talented; I just don't like the policies she is likely to implement.

Then again, when have the Clintons not overcome any scandal, real or not?

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I would like to see her go down for important things, like being a warmonger.

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Shahryar's picture

all that baloney about Obama being a Kenyan...and they still believe he's a socialist!

So even if Hillary violated protocol and the law she'll still get a pass. This reminds me of something I heard on the radio not long ago...

This guy was laying out the case against Obama in a very nice lefty way. Drones, TPP, Goldman Sachs...everything that we'd mention. Then he closed by saying something like "and they're not telling us the truth about alien visitations". So everything he had said before, which was all true, suddenly was tainted and could be ignored because the guy's crazy! Which is an interesting misdirection technique. I wondered if it were deliberate.

but anyway...so the RW might be right about this, they might be right about Benghazi, but they've made such preposterous claims before, and still do, that they deserve to be ignored.

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the people on dkos who say 'take that RW talking point to Red State' if i make a comment regarding policy, corrupt politics or the sad state of the Democratic Party with their Third Way neoliberals war criminals. Every single 'issue' revolves around what the whack job right wingers do or say and no one is allowed to talk about what the Democrat's in power are doing. Binary thinking that causes people to support and vote against their own and the country's interests because Republicans are nut's. I know what the Repugs are about but I care more about what the default vote Third Way Democrat's are up to. I don't want to 'get their back' for the same shit that the Republicans implement. Who cares about the optics when your choice is between the degrees of anti-democratic, criminal insanity and corruption. Would you like your endless bloody war and austerity with or without a vagina probe? It doesn't matter as even when you do vote for the Democrat's they are complicit with the bat shit crazy RW. Victories for compromise my ass. So absurd that it makes me laugh or cry depending on my mood.

Where's my habeas corpus?

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for the first time in years I listened to some Coast to Coast, and there heard a gibberer claim that Obama will soon announce that aliens are everywhere. I then went to the tubes and learned that the gibberer is a "registered UFO lobbyist," and is convinced a President Clinton II would "go open" about the 17 extraterrestrial civilizations currently in congress with Earth.

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Noory basically phones it in, and the host they fired, John B. Wells, is probably defending Texas from the gubmint about now. He had every teabagger in the country calling in.

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"Religion is what keeps the poor from murdering the rich."--Napoleon

... Midnight in the Desert on the internet
last month. Details at artbell.com. He
has a number you can call to listen over
the phone.

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Nice to see you here.

My mother used to listen to Art Bell when she lived in the middle of the desert. Art Bell the Elder, that is.

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glad to see you posting.

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It is good to have you posting here. Smile

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“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~ President John F. Kennedy

I tried to reply to your earlier
message, but the system was
acting up, vaporizing my reply
or blocking me when I tried to
send it.

Nice to be here. Thanks for the
welcome.

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It was poor quality streaming. I am glad you told me though so I could check it out.

Thanks,
dk

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"Religion is what keeps the poor from murdering the rich."--Napoleon

I mentioned listening over the phone,
which is what I do. I'm pretty impressed
with the sound quality I get on my cell
phone while simultaneously browsing
the net.

If you want to give the phone option a
try, Art Bell's listen-live phone number is:

424-203-8402

Show runs 11pm - 2am CT, M-F.

dr

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Things are getting "real" for Hillary. The denial on DKos is going to get harder to maintain.

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Most importantly, Bernie Sanders is the only Democrat gaining attention nationwide who isn't linked to an FBI investigation. Why some Democrats still continue to believe a candidate can win the White House with the Justice Department, FBI, and other intelligence agencies investigating this candidate's email practices, seems to overlook one obvious fact. Nobody has ever won the White House with an ongoing FBI and Justice Department investigation, and it doesn't seem that the FBI or Justice Department will cease investigating Clinton's email saga by Election Day; 444 days away.
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and punish her if she has old toothpaste

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And a bombshell Reuters report on Friday detailed how some of the information Clinton shared with colleagues was inherently classified.

"Clinton and her senior staff routinely sent foreign government information among themselves on unsecured networks several times a month, if the State Department's markings are correct," Reuters' Jonathan Allen reported. "Within the 30 email threads reviewed by Reuters, Clinton herself sent at least 17 emails that contained this sort of information."

"Anybody who knowingly emailed classified material to Clinton or her top aides when she was secretary of state could face criminal prosecution, according to current and former U.S. national security officials," Bloomberg reported. "Those who inadvertently send or receive classified data could be prosecuted for gross negligence."

One administration official speaking to Bremmer recently put it succinctly: "If I did what Clinton did, I think I'd be in jail," Bremmer said the official told him.

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Pluto's Republic's picture

…is a right wing spin zone. Just sayin' and IMHO.

Still, a very interesting and lively essay, GJ.

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shaharazade's picture

Hard to sort out he bright shiny objects that are under the water that flows from the swamps of DC and the business insiders. Oh no another crash another war another killing spree by pigs unleashed. Every 'news' source seems to be a right wing spin zone. You can however learn a lot by reading the endless spin that emanates from all news sources that publish the news that's fit to spin.

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triv33's picture

Can't watch it on the teevee anymore because my dad replaced all the big heavy tube sets with those flat screen things. You just can't lob a flip-flop at those things and not expect to kill some pixels.

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I shave my legs with Occam's Razor~

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any more we took it back when Comcast parted ways with KO. We do have a nice Sony screen which we use yo watch DVD movies on. It's so much better without the agro bs from both sides poring into your house night and day. I do listen to radio occasionally I like to hear what NPR has to say about doing the numbers or what kboo my local station has to say about local politic that run the gamut. I like not having my home and mind filled with bs. from either side of the binary weird raging battle.

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It's been about five years and we are much happier as a result. I realized just how mindless it was after we quit. After a short period of withdrawal, we found that we are much happier and relaxed without that incessant drone of the tv in the background all the time.

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“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~ President John F. Kennedy

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