but what good is the platform. It's a farce has been for years probably forever. Has as much credibility as this this bogus election has. Like Nancy said it's not worth anything if you can't enforce it otherwise it's a useless piece of paper. Loved Bernie's speech but then again I loved Obama's speeches also. I know Bernie is sincere, has integrity and believes what he is saying and I agree with most of what he talks about but please how is voting Democratic ever going to accomplish his stated ends. Never.

working within the Dem party and Congress. The vehicle of change (through the party) was to be millions of people standing up and saying enough is enough. So, Bernie's political revolution isn't really over. He never said the "revolution" was anything but the people getting involved. His speech tonight was to try to get them to still do that even though he won't be prez.

I'm not happy about it. Very disappointed. Not optimistic. But, it's not like it is a surprise, and I wanted to point out your last sentence to me is unfair.

It was a great speech, great vision for the country & the dem party.

He's still in the nomination race which won't be over until the convention. So, in order to go to the convention with his vision (demands) for the party, I think he can't indicate in any way now that he might go 3rd party. And he's not just demanding the platform; he's demanding new leadership of the dem party, and no lame-duck signing of TPP. Will he be laughed off the stage? Will the DNC refuse him the right to speak as he chooses? (They must approve of all speech transcripts.) Does he plan to mention the investigation & election fraud lawsuits there, if necessary? What will be the tenor at the end of the convention?

At the end of the convention, will he go 3rd? Perhaps a miracle will occur (indictment, etc) & he won't have to. If not, I hope hope hope he can see a third party run as no compromise of his integrity. I don't see how he could in conscience allow Hillary to take the reins if he could prevent it.

I think we aren't trending toward oligarchy. I think we already have one. Possible I don't have a complete understanding of the term.
I wish my body wasn't so old and achey and limiting, now that I finally have a little smarts. I would like to be able to do more about changing things.

The Democratic platform for decades has been totally ignored once the Democratic powers that be get elected. It's pointless and useless. He's not a stupid person he knows this. So why fall inline on the need to defeat Trump and yet funnel his supporters to get ground up in the meat grinder that chews up any candidate that fly's under the Democratic party? So sick and tired of this long drawn out political revolution that hasn't the guts to take on the Democratic party. Well hell, at least he and his supporters took them on and showed us all what we are dealing with.

I do not think however that there is anyway via the Democrat's or the Republican's this Bernie inspired political revolution will come to pass. Instead it will go to the place where all good movements of people get neutered and are then called the enemy of the good. Just my 2 cents. Nothing was revealed other then the best pol in a rigged system said use the system and transform these psycho's from within. i just don't think that's possible and I think Bernie knows damn well, whats op with that. Another empty pocket full of hope? I'm just not cut out to deal with this on any level other then from the gut so I tend to say why not take them all on Dems. included .

there are many more potentially like her. She came out of Occupy. I met so many gifted, brilliant and inspired people through that movement. But many probably saw it as too lurid and ugly a scene of which to commit. Hard to say how this will effect that enthusiasm.

It's a tough call.

Because Sanders won this fucking thing. He won with the support of millions of folks donating, volunteering and enthusiastically attending his rallies, but is not the nominee (at the moment). He was thwarted by a web of deceit, interference and fraud. "Mission Accomplished," by the RW Neoliberal scumbags infesting the Democratic Party. They saw the writing on the wall early on and said to themselves "WTF is going on? How is this relatively unknown 74 yr old Jewish Socialist Senator from VT getting even numbers to our presumptive nominee with the international name recognition and full support of the entire political and media establishment?"

They pulled out every dirty trick along the way, perhaps none more vital to her dying, shitty, uninspiring, entitled, and arrogant campaign than finagling the caucus numbers in Iowa, of which even the Des Moines Register, who backed her, said was a complete "debacle." The whole idea was to dispirit us, with the definitive crushing blow being the outright suppression and fraud of NY. There was no way he lost by so much, the numbers on the ground at the rallies, volunteering, and canvassing said way different. So did the exit polls. People across the country, deep and wide, already held the lowest faith in government seen in decades. This calcified it for them. I keep think of my musical hero Neil Young and the words of "Ohio" (heard a great cover version on WBAI that sounded like Curtis Mayfield - anyone know if he covered it?) that "we're finally on our own" as what I'm feeling now, after all this.

I imagine lots of folks are now feeling similar swirling feelings of despair and hope. I told myself and all around me that if Sanders didn't make it I'm done with electoral politics for good. He's by far the best candidate I've ever seen run, spoke for me almost 100% of the time, it's incredible.

He was amazing tonight. So was his speech on Tues:

What does it mean going forward? I don't know. I'm talking with my girlfriend and activist friends of going to Philly to bolster this great man, his conviction which almost entirely matches mine and stand in public for what is right. After all, that is the essence of everything he's been saying. Millions standing #together for what is right, just as every great advancement we enjoy as a society take for granted has occurred, is the only way any change ever comes about.

By taking this stand Bernie has done so much for all of us, this country and the world already. I hope he stands defiantly, with all the leverage he has, to force a existential showdown of which he most certainly will win. There's no doubt he has clanged a sharp, resounding blow against the bulwark of status quo politics and the charade of beholden politicians to Big Money. He's changed the dynamic by exposing the fraud of our putrid, pay to play, revolving door government by accepting mostly small donations and relying on volunteers. Historic in a big way, as he ended his lovely, ever so fierce talk tonight.

I've got his back.

Is about and for. To find those honest citizens who probably never thought they could run for office because of $ needed, and get them elected to actually perform as public servants. And replace them if/when they don't do what we elected them to do.

He took on the biggest political machine of the last, what, at least twenty years, got nearly no media coverage, and slanted stories, lies: he stayed on message consistently, he brought millions of new people out to hear him, AND folks are now aware of what a real public servant does: and YOU feel used?

How much did you do to help?

I am appalled at how he was treated: the DNC should have just said "don't run" but instead failed in every possible agreement: they are corrupt as shit. and his colleagues in the senate are trough feeders: they did nothing to support these platforms, while carping publicly about having to "raise money" and "the money in politics" . . . wonder how much their encrypted accounts got from SELLOUT THE PEOPLE R US.

He is a noble human being. And it galls me to listen to the extraordinary lack of awareness of a. what he has accomplished and B. snide comments.

came from nowhere and managed to get almost half of the primary voters against a very entrenched machine. That in and of itself is miraculous.

If it weren't for Bernie, we wouldn't even be discussing other potential policies. After all, even HRC has changed her position (if only momentarily) in several important areas. Those policies and ideas are finally getting the public's attention, and they like what they see.

Bernie also completely debunked the garbage that the dem party has sold for years - that campaigns have to be financed by wealthy people and that progressive/liberal policies aren't desired by the public.

And you're hand-wringing because you don't know exactly what is going to happen???

I didn't hear anything about organizing for the future, to make certain that some of these necessary (vital), changes take place within a strong political, uncorrupted structure.

Bernie needed to take an extra step tonight. I'm disappointed that I didn't hear it.

About the cheating. You are supposed to work to keep it from happening again. That work can take many forms, many paths. Find the one that works for you.

I thought he was going to concede and start talking about supporting that woman. I didn't want him to but I thought he would. Instead he socked it to the Harper Valley PTA Hillbots.

but to see them flopping around doesn't give me much satisfaction once I realized they were just goldfish.

And, yet, I read today that she is praising Reagan and the Bushes in her stump speeches, most recently.

If there's an FBI indictment that changes the equation, but honestly I think Trump is basically throwing the election for his good friends Bill and Hillary. He's not going to swing states. The national party and major donors aren't supporting him. He has no organization outside of the Trump Towers. He made a half-hearted effort to contact mega donors and is obviously uncomfortable doing it and probably isn't getting a good response.

Probably the only two people in the world that HRC could beat in a national election are Donald Trump and Ted Cruz, but she got the match-up. In the spring I thought that Trump might be able to position himself to challenge her in the rust belt, but it won't happen if he's broke and there is no ground organization. It won't happen either, if his primary interest isn't in the presidency, but finding a way to capitalizing and profit off of his public profile.

logical successor to his 'legacy'. He called her the most 'qualified' person to ever run for the presidency? They are two peas in a pod, to borrow an old saw. And he's been lying to us since the bullshit about Hope and Change and TRANSPARENCY.

People still believe anything that guy has said or says?

Why? Do you still believe the 'government isn't spying on you' as well?