Tartans: Street Prophets Thursday Coffee Hour

Welcome to Thursday Coffee Hour. This is an Open Thread so say hi, help yourself to the goodies, and let us know what is new with you. Today's theme is Tartans. Wikipedia defines tartans as:

Tartan is a pattern consisting of criss-crossed horizontal and vertical bands in multiple colors. Tartans originated in woven wool, but now they are made in many other materials. Tartan is particularly associated with Scotland. Scottish kilts almost always have tartan patterns.

Although the fore runners of the tartans of today were present in Britain in the 6th - 5th B.C. tartans as we now recognize as from Scotland came into being in the 16th century.

There are a dizzying array of tartans with Clans having more than one tartan and sub-clans having some of their own. For example as a member of the Wilson clan which is a sub clan of the Gunn clan we can wear their tartan. We can also wear the McIntosh tartan,

Seeing that we are perfectly acceptable tartans to choose to wear the question begs to know who in their right mind would design this for the official Wilson Clan tartan?

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The Wilson tartan

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My idea of a tartan

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Alex Budarin's picture

"Scotland the Brave." I actually paid a bagpiper to play that tune at the end of my retirement party!

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"All Life is Problem Solving" - Karl Popper

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From the June 8th Archdruid Report:

Nonetheless, the unspeakable has become the inescapable in today’s world. It’s become a running joke on the internet that the word “upgrade” inevitably means poorer service, fewer benefits, and more annoyances for those who have to deal with the new and allegedly improved product. The same logic can be applied equally well across the entire landscape of modern technology. What’s new, innovative, revolutionary, game-changing, and so on through the usual litany of overheated adjectives, isn’t necessarily an improvement. It can be, and very often is, a disaster.

(Brief discussion of neocon military cheerleading for American military dominance and technological superiority)

There’s only one small difficulty here, which is that much of the hardware in question doesn’t work.

The poster child here is the F-35 Lightning II fighter.

More examples:

The Navy has an equal embarrassment on its hands right now, the Littoral Combat Ship (LCS), another high-tech, high-priced failure. The LCS costs $37 billion a pop, and has been marketed as the be-all and end-all of coastal warfare craft. If this sounds reminiscent of the praise lavished on the F-35, it should—and the results are comparable.

Two bad apples? Consider the SBX missile defense system, which was supposed to track incoming ICBMs and knock them out of the sky. It’s a $10 billion dollar flop; none of its array of high-tech gizmos—the flying lasers, the antimissile rockets, the gargantuan seaborne radar—does what it’s supposed to do. Consider the Air Force’s Expeditionary Combat Support System (ECCS), a computer system designed to handle logistics for overseas deployments, which ate a billion dollars and seven years before being cancelled as a complete failure. Consider, for that matter, the Army’s new pixellated camouflage uniform, $5 billion in the making, which had to be scrapped when it turned out that it sticks out like a sore thumb against every environment on Earth.

(Extended discussion of military tecnological extravagance causing shortages for more critical military equipment)

Yet another round of innovative, revolutionary, breakthrough technologies is not going to solve America’s military problems, since those problems were caused or worsened by previous rounds of innovative, revolutionary, breakthrough technologies. Nonetheless, that’s the conventional wisdom in today’s United States, and in an embarrassingly large number of its allies—and history offers no encouragement at all to those who want to believe that this can end well.

More at The Archdruid Report: http://thearchdruidreport.blogspot.com/2016/06/they-died-of-progress.htm...

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"They'll say we're disturbing the peace, but there is no peace. What really bothers them is that we are disturbing the war." Howard Zinn

yellopig's picture

The alternate patterns are usually the same weave, but the dyes have decomposed, i.e., the fabric is older. For example, the alternate for this pattern changes the red to rusty tan and darkens the blue.

If you know your tartans, you now know my surname Wink

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“We may not be able to change the system, but we can make the system irrelevant in our lives and in the lives of those around us.”—John Beckett

michelewln's picture

Cameron?

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A dreamer is one who can only find his way by moonlight, and his punishment is that he sees the dawn before the rest of the world. Oscar Wilde

yellopig's picture

Has 4 green stripes, and their highlight is yellow.

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“We may not be able to change the system, but we can make the system irrelevant in our lives and in the lives of those around us.”—John Beckett

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A dreamer is one who can only find his way by moonlight, and his punishment is that he sees the dawn before the rest of the world. Oscar Wilde

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“We may not be able to change the system, but we can make the system irrelevant in our lives and in the lives of those around us.”—John Beckett

Leicestershire, England

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Look up at the stars and not down at your feet. Try to make sense of what you see, and wonder about what makes the universe exist. Be curious. Stephen Hawking

Good to see you. I'm a little tired of Bernie and Democrats. Push and fight and nothing ever changes for the better. I am so ready to shake all of the dust out of my life.

Take care. Hope you are well.

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michelewln's picture

The antibiotic finally seems to have gotten rid of the pneumonia.

One of the reasons I do the Coffee Hours is to give people a break from all politics all the time. Thanks for joining us tonight.

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A dreamer is one who can only find his way by moonlight, and his punishment is that he sees the dawn before the rest of the world. Oscar Wilde

michelewln's picture

Now if they want to put him in a Wilson tartan I won't object. Wink

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gulfgal98's picture

in the late 1800's. Their last name was Craig, but we had always been told that the Craigs were part of the clan Gordon. I found an ancient Craig tartan, so here it is.
craig-ancient-10oz-wool-tartan-swatch_lg.jpg

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Do I hear the sound of guillotines being constructed?

“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~ President John F. Kennedy

"The Wilson Clan", humm, I thought that was a British surname, son of wil? Ancient history perhaps?

Thank you for the wonderful diversion from all politics, all the time.

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michelewln's picture

Apparently there are two different sets of Wilson one from Scotland and the other England. Dad was into genealogy and said we were part of the Scottish Wilson.

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Unabashed Liberal's picture

(clan's) tartan sometime, when I've got a bit more time to re-find it. This is definitely a fun topic. His family's pattern is not my favorite--most of the ones posted here, are much prettier, IMO.

I'm wondering, "is it your intention that this OT is for discussion of any topic, or do you prefer folks to stick to the topic you present?"

I ask, because I often arrive far too late to really (meaningfully) participate in the early morning OT's. IOW, I might occasionally have something to post here, unless it would be inappropriate to do so. BTW, my topics are normally animals (wild and pet), and so-called entitlements; guess I'm sorta a two-trick pony.

Wink

Again, thanks.

Mollie


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"is it your intention that this OT is for discussion of any topic, or do you prefer folks to stick to the topic you present?"

You can bring up other topics if you wish. At Street Prophets we have a starting point like tartans but people are free to discuss that or anything else that they want to talk about.

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