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Open Thread - Thurs 21 Aug 2025 - Media Soft-Balls

Media Soft-Balls

R.J. Eskow wrote an article for his newsletter, The Zero Hour Report, recently about the gentle language the media is using, now that it has to report about what is actually happening in Gaza. The piece is titled 'A Hell Made for the Innocent' with the subtitle 'Of monsters, media, and the gentle language of genocide'.


Cartoon from here.

I, myself, even though I'm not paying much attention at times, have noticed what R.J. is highlighting in this article. I'm sure most of us have noticed it, how the media soft-balls what is actually happening, how the titles of the news' pieces deflect and confuse readers about the truth. The thing is, I've noticed this in almost every sphere of media/news concern, from local news articles to national and international. Has it always been this way? Did the media talk about Iran, and Iraq and Vietnam in this same way? I bet it did.

I wonder how much AI generating the articles has to do with this, now (not in earlier times, of course). For example, I've noticed a lot of strange wording and weirdness in local news titles, as if an actual human editor isn't reading them. I have no idea if AI did this, perhaps it didn't, but the title, '13-year-old found asleep with plush dog after Kitsap Fairgrounds vandalism', is pretty confusing (to me). Yes, after reading the article, the 13 year old was arrested for doing the vandalism, and was found asleep holding a plush dog toy in a nearby playground. Me, I was wondering what breed of dog was a plush dog, and wondering who did the vandalism and got the boy so tired? And isn't it cute that he was sleeping with his dog? Hah. I guess I really don't live in the real world, do I?

Anyway, Eskow's article is good, and worth a read if you've got the time.

Here's the open thread! What's up, whatcha doing? Reading? Thinking? Remember, everything is interesting if you dive deep enough, so tell us about where you're diving!

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Sima's picture

Hope all is well with everyone! We are putting up new electric goat netting today. Fun, fun! The goats will be happy. We've got eight, yes eight, new chicks. We let one of our hens lay on her eggs, and that's the result. They are very cute, in a chick way Smile .

What's up with you? How you doing today? Hope all is well!

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If you're poor now, my friend, then you'll stay poor.
These days, only the rich get given more. -- Martial book 5:81, c. AD 100 or so
Nothing ever changes -- Sima, c. AD 2020 or so

@Sima Propaganda everywhere, all the time.
Truth is malleable.
Congrats on the chicks! I have court this morning, will read this article later.
Thanks for the OT, chica!

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"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981

QMS's picture

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The establishment darling projects always get a "good"
bias, whereas the socialist/anti-war/people power memes
receive blanket negative slants. Been like that for at least
50 years from my observation.

On another note, my neighbor's daughter just took possession
of two baby goats. Classes-up the neighborhood hearing them
bleating. More interesting than barking dogs.

Thanks for the OT Sima.

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Zionism is a social disease

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I learned this expression in Korean many years ago, from mother in law. It could be taken literally and is also used as a shorthand greeting with people you know socially, like "how are you today?" I haphazardly look at basic Chinese lessons when I get worn out by the crises du jour. I learned recently, from the youtubes, that the Chinese custom is to ask the same thing "Have you eaten?" as a greeting.

吃早了吗? 吃了吗? chī le ma

Propaganda is an extension of advertising. We don't advertise our products defects, not if we can help it. I think it was the documentary The Century of Self which made the comparison of an advertising campaign to get women to smoke to generating a frenzy of hate to conduct war.

Listened to a KJ Noh interview late last night, who discussed this topic. He mentioned the "firehose of falsehoods" and the "ideological deluge." I think he said Rand Corporation came up with these expressions.

UNLOCKED (Full Ep) China's Rise defies US propaganda: Who's winning the battle of ideas? with KJ Noh

He also mentioned the Ford Foundation and a character named Orville Schell, who had some post in Indonesia during the so called "Jakarta solution." He's advertised as one of the major "Sinologists" of the era. I listened to KJ in the truck when satellite radio first became a thing.

I had some intuition that Teresa Teng was a genius when I learned that one of her best selling albums, Dandan youquing, was a collection of songs based on classical Chinese poetry/songs. I was looking at a bio on her in the Chinese wiki I think it was, and realized that her life was complicated by history and politics (she was born in Taiwan, her dad was a KMT officer). She was something of prodigy as a young child, and as she grew up and matured, she mastered a number of Chinese dialects, and Japanese and English. I had set aside this song a while ago, for further study some time ago and got back to it yesterday. I read an excellent (computer translated) analysis of the song on Baidu, that dated the original song/poem on which it's based to 1076CE, Song Dynasty: Water Melody Song: When Will the Bright Moon Appear?. It's one of the paradigms for the Moon/Heaven/nature/life archetype in Asian art forms. I probably posted this before when I first heard it. I was stunned really to find out that the song had a political message, as some highly talented scholars, experienced difficult time at court and tended to find themselves exiled to minor positions in the outer regions, either by consensus, or involuntarily. It's cold in the Jade Palace.

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鄧麗君 Teresa Teng 但願人長久 Wish We Live Long Lives 1986

Edit no. 2: fix typo

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語必忠信 行必正直

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@soryang
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When I worked in the east, I thought they were asking
what the contents of my stomach were. Wink

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Zionism is a social disease

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@QMS

早上好

LOL. It does sound like that in Korean 배고파? Stomach hungry? (I often thought stomach suffering, going to explode?)

I got called away to eat breakfast by she who must be obeyed. It's 吃了吗? Chi le ma? Did you eat? If one mentions the specific meal you might have to feed someone. 你吃早餐了吗? did you eat breakfast yet.

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@soryang the reply button, so it is down below.

be well and have a good one

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That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --

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at least according to Zerohedge, alcohol consumption is nearing historical lows.

Good. That leaves more for me.

https://archive.ph/qXZND

A new Gallup poll shows only 54 percent of U.S. adults now drink alcohol — the lowest level in the survey’s 90-year history. Those who do drink also report consuming less, according to the NY Times.

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Twice bitten, permanently shy.

@usefewersyllables

I see that, that at least according to Zerohedge, alcohol consumption is nearing historical lows.

That is because I have not had a drink since I had a stroke three years ago. Skewed the numbers big time.

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I cried when I wrote this song. Sue me if I play too long.

Seymour Myron Hersh (born April 8, 1937) is an American investigative journalist and political writer. He gained recognition in 1969 for exposing the My Lai massacre and its cover-up during the Vietnam War, for which he received the 1970 Pulitzer Prize for International Reporting. During the 1970s, Hersh covered the Watergate scandal for The New York Times, also reporting on the secret U.S. bombing of Cambodia and the Central Intelligence Agency's (CIA) program of domestic spying. In 2004, he detailed the U.S. military's torture and abuse of prisoners at Abu Ghraib in Iraq for The New Yorker. Hersh has won five George Polk Awards, and two National Magazine Awards. He is the author of 11 books, including The Price of Power: Kissinger in the Nixon White House (1983), an account of the career of Henry Kissinger which won the National Book Critics Circle Award.

In 2013, Hersh's reporting alleged that Syrian rebel forces, rather than the government, had attacked civilians with sarin gas at Ghouta during the Syrian Civil War, and in 2015, he presented an alternative account of the U.S. special forces raid in Pakistan which killed Osama bin Laden, both times attracting controversy and criticism. In 2023, Hersh alleged that the U.S. and Norway had sabotaged the Nord Stream pipelines, again stirring controversy. He is known for his use of anonymous sources, for which his later stories in particular have been criticized.

The reporter with the stones to break the My Lai Story said that when he was a cub reporter in Chicago, he quickly learned that there were topics he would be killed if he wrote about them: Sam Giancana and Cops killing black people.

Atheists and reds could not get a fair shake either.

Nothing new under the bloody fucking sun.

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I cried when I wrote this song. Sue me if I play too long.

enhydra lutris's picture

Propaganda is an extension of advertising.

, and while I won't disagree, I have a slightly different view. Advertising, in the simplest sense, is providing information. I hang out a sign saying "I have claw hammers for sale" and passers-by with some interest in acquiring a first or replacement or additional hammer might see it and decide to check it out and see if I have what they want at a reasonable price. OTOH, advertising can also be part of a "marketing campaign" Marketing , to me, is the art of trying to con or manipulate somebody into doing something that they would not otherwise do. A subtle distinction, but one that I find useful. I would say that propaganda is marketing, though, like all marketing, it could and almost certainly will involve some advertising.

be well and have a good one

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That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --