Why does Trump hate his supporters?

Theoretically when a politician wins he rewards his voters, or at least spares them some of the pain.
However, Donald Trump isn't a normal politician. He does things differently.

President Donald Trump made an impassioned plea for support from minority voters during his election campaign by asking them, “What do you have to lose?”
On Tuesday, they got an answer, as did many of the rural, poor and working-class voters who propelled him into office. In his fiscal 2018 budget proposal, Trump asked Congress for $3.6 trillion in spending cuts that would mean steep reductions in food stamps, Medicaid health insurance payments, disability benefits, low-income housing assistance and block grants that fund meals-on-wheels for the elderly.
... Budget Director Mick Mulvaney called the spending proposal released Tuesday a rethinking of government to place greater weight on the interests of the people who pay taxes rather than those who turn to it for help.

Or to put it in Trumpian, "Cutting off the losers who voted for me."
I'm sure Markos would have something equally cruel to say, but include a mention about white people.

States that Trump carried in the presidential election are high on the list of those that spent the most federal money for Medicaid in 2016, including Pennsylvania at No. 4 with $16.6 billion, Ohio a notch lower with $15.1 billion and Michigan at No. 7 with $12.3 billion, according to the Kaiser Family Foundation.
Among the top 25 states for proportion of households receiving food stamps, Trump won 16 of them, according to a comparison of election results and Census Bureau figures. That includes three in the top five for usage: Mississippi, West Virginia and Kentucky.
Those three also are among the top states with the highest proportion of beneficiaries of Social Security disability payments. Of the 25 states with the highest shares of recipients compared with total population, Trump carried 17 of them in November.
Cuts to agricultural programs also will be felt in Trump country. Eight of the 10 states that received the most federal money in farm subsides voted for Trump, according to a state ranking compiled by the Environmental Working Group. Even in Illinois and Minnesota, the two states that voted for Democrat Hillary Clinton, rural areas supported the Republican.

It would have been hard to craft a budget with more targeted pain against the poor Republican voter.
Which is why there is no chance it will pass Congress in this form.
However, Congress has there own plan to inflict pain on their voting base.

The current Republican bill to repeal and replace major parts of Obamacare will lead to 23 million more Americans not having health insurance coverage by 2026 if it becomes law, the Congressional Budget Office projected Wednesday.

Like Trump's budget, Trumpcare/Ryancare would target poor Republican voters.

Among those hit the hardest under the current House bill are 60-year-olds with annual incomes of $30,000, particularly in rural areas where healthcare costs are higher and Obamacare subsidies are greater.
In nearly 1,500 counties nationwide, such a person stands to lose more than $6,000 a year in federal insurance subsidies. Ninety percent of those counties backed Trump, the analysis shows.
And 68 of the 70 counties where these consumers would suffer the largest losses supported Trump in November.
...Meanwhile, higher-income, younger Americans — many of whom live in urban areas won by Democrat Hillary Clinton — stand to get more assistance in the Republican legislation.

Once again, the bill is unlikely to become law in its current form.
Nevertheless, it's amazing to see a political party show such open disdain for the welfare of its supporters, and not be Democrats.
The worst possible thing that Democrats could do to Republicans would be to let them get what they want.

On the other hand, this is a unique opportunity for Dems to make inroads into deep Republican country, but only by showing people that you actually care. And that key is health care.
Not by defending Obamacare, which is collapsing. Iowa is Obamacare's canary in the coalmine.

In an article last week looking at the health of the state insurance marketplaces set up by the Affordable Care Act, I wrote about why Iowa’s was in a dire situation. Three of its insurers recently said they may exit the Obamacare marketplaces, which threatens to leave tens of thousands of people with no way to buy the subsidized insurance promised by the law. The situation there is actually far more tenuous and could be a glimpse of what’s to come in other states. In 94 of Iowa’s 99 counties, insurers have said they may not sell new plans on the individual market at all, even outside the subsidized markets set up by the ACA.
This is a serious concern for people who buy insurance on the individual market, because as Congress debates how to repeal and replace the ACA, just about every policy scenario assumes that the individual markets will continue to exist through 2018. And although the markets were already in trouble in some places, the White House’s decision not to take actions that could stabilize them could continue to scare off insurers, resulting in more states facing a situation like Iowa’s.

We aren't just talking about losing Obamacare insurance. We aren't just talking about not being able to afford insurance.
We are talking about not being able to buy ANY insurance.
The GOP has no solution for this scenario.

But the House Dems do.

As lawmakers and the public awaited the Congressional Budget Office's score on the GOP's "horrific" Trumpcare bill, Congressional Democrats on Tuesday doubled-down on their call for a Medicare-for-All system to provide universal healthcare to all Americans.
At a morning press conference outside the U.S. Capitol, Rep. John Conyers (D-Mich.) was joined by fellow lawmakers and healthcare advocates in promoting HR 676, the Expanded and Improved Medicare-for-All Act. As Common Dreams previously reported, the legislation has more Democratic support than it ever has before; as of Tuesday, there are 111 co-sponsors including the chairman of the House Democratic caucus, Rep. Joseph Crowley (D-N.Y.), who signed on last week.
"I've never seen more energy behind this issue of Medicare for All," Conyers said at Wednesday's event

Contrary to establishment Democratic thought, Trump voters are open to the idea of Medicare For All.

Increasingly, the single-payer solution is generating that sort of consensus across ideological and party affiliations. In early April, an Economist/ YouGov poll showed that 60 percent of respondents supported a “Medicare for all” system, including 43 percent of people who identified as conservative and 40 percent of Trump voters.
The energy behind single payer is partly a result of the GOP’s success in pointing out the flaws in Obamacare, then failing to offer a workable alternative. Vitale believes that, in a paradoxical way, it’s also driven by Trump.

The thing is, there is a very narrow window for this crisis to not get ugly.
Obamacare has only a couple years left in it.
The economy could go into recession at any time.
If anything like either Ryancare or Trump's budget passes, things will go downhill fast.
And all those poor white working class voters who voted for Trump out of desperation will literally have nothing to lose in no time at all.

Today, there are approximately 205 million working age Americans, and close to half of them have no financial cushion whatsoever. In fact, a new survey conducted by the Federal Reserve has found that 44 percent of Americans do not even have enough money “to cover an unexpected $400 expense”…

Nearly eight years into an economic recovery, nearly half of Americans didn’t have enough cash available to cover a $400 emergency. Specifically, the survey found that, in line with what the Fed had disclosed in previous years, 44% of respondents said they wouldn’t be able to cover an unexpected $400 expense like a car repair or medical bill, or would have to borrow money or sell something to meet it.

Not only that, the same survey discovered that 23 percent of U.S. adults will not be able to pay their bills this month…

Just as concerning were other findings from the study: just under one-fourth of adults, or 23%, are not able to pay all of their current month’s bills in full while 25% reported skipping medical treatments due to cost in the prior year. Additionally, 28% of adults who haven’t retired yet reported to being grossly unprepared, indicating they had no retirement savings or pension whatsoever.

But just because you can pay your bills does not mean that you are doing well. Tens of millions of Americans barely scrape by from paycheck to paycheck each and every month.
In fact, a survey by CareerBuilder discovered that 75 percent of all Americans live paycheck to paycheck at least some of the time…

Three-quarters of Americans (75 percent) are living paycheck-to-paycheck to make ends meet, according to a survey from CareerBuilder. Thirty-eight percent of employees said they sometimes live paycheck-to-paycheck, 15 percent said they usually do and 23 percent said they always do. While making ends meet is a struggle for many post-recession, those with minimum wage jobs continue to be hit the hardest. Of workers who currently have a minimum wage job or have held one in the past, 66 percent said they couldn’t make ends meet and 50 percent said they had to work more than one job to make it work

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When people are this bad off, you don't scoff at their misery like Markos. You offer help and solutions. That's how you win back Congress.

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Amanda Matthews's picture

Is because the people who he's always wanted to impress, the crowd he always wanted to run and party with, look down their noses at him and think he's common at best, monied white trash in general. He can't take his anger out on his 'betters' so he's going after those he can.

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I'm tired of this back-slapping "Isn't humanity neat?" bullshit. We're a virus with shoes, okay? That's all we are. - Bill Hicks

Politics is the entertainment branch of industry. - Frank Zappa

@Amanda Matthews that he is, always take it out on the weak and suck up to your betters as much as possible. Of course, I am not saying Democrats are any damned better. Where else they gonna go?

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Only a fool lets someone else tell him who his enemy is. Assata Shakur

@Amanda Matthews Republican candidate assaults journalist

On the eve of a special election to fill Montana’s lone House seat, Republican candidate Greg Gianforte lost his cool while being interviewed by reporters at his Bozeman, Montana headquarters when, out of the blue, Guardian reporter Ben Jacobs says Gianforte body slammed him...
Here’s how BuzzFeed reporter Alexis Levinson, who was also present during the incident, described it:

“This happened behind a half closed door, so I didn’t see it all, but here’s what it ooked like from the outside – Ben walked into a room where a local tv crew was set up for an interview with Gianforte. All of a sudden I heard a giant crash and saw Ben’s feet fly in the air as he hit the floor. Heard very angry yelling (as did all the volunteers in the room) – sounded like Gianforte...”

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@gjohnsit @gjohnsit
They're too stupid to realise that he's kicking their asses and abusing their children every single day.

I am becoming quite misanthropic in my old age. Greedy, grasping pigs like this guy and Trump and his tribe, or the Clinton trash have destroyed the much vaunted 'American Dream'. Oops! I forgot to include The Empty Suit. Now there's a fake populist I really despise.

Third Party now

EDIT: assets/asses

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I'm tired of this back-slapping "Isn't humanity neat?" bullshit. We're a virus with shoes, okay? That's all we are. - Bill Hicks

Politics is the entertainment branch of industry. - Frank Zappa

dervish's picture

Sheesh, we've got the best bootstraps in the world, I tell you.

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"Obama promised transparency, but Assange is the one who brought it."

@dervish

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PriceRip's picture

          ... that I like to I take a moment to ponder A Modest Proposal ... by Dr. Jonathan Swift.

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dervish's picture

@PriceRip Why haven't the Republicans adopted this as part of their platform?

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"Obama promised transparency, but Assange is the one who brought it."

@dervish
They might think this applies to fetuses, and that's a no sell.

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@gjohnsit

          Anyone with even a modicum of sophistication should understand the production of fine veal!

          I have been assured by a very knowing American of my acquaintance in London, that a young healthy child well nursed, is, at a year old, a most delicious nourishing and wholesome food, whether stewed, roasted, baked, or boiled; and I make no doubt that it will equally serve in a fricasie, or a ragoust.

          Fetus! How gauche! They are so maladroit! <Sniff>

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@PriceRip

everybody else should be fat 'n happy. /s

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"The object of persecution is persecution. The object of torture is torture. The object of power is power. Now do you begin to understand me?" ~Orwell, "1984"

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@Lily O Lady

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dervish's picture

@PriceRip for oligarchs?

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"Obama promised transparency, but Assange is the one who brought it."

@dervish
Though they were better when they were druggies.

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@PriceRip
beggars up. Maybe select a few to raise specifically on corn.

Ducks are force-fed twice a day for 12.5 days and geese three times a day for around 17 days. Ducks are typically slaughtered at 100 days and geese at 112 days.[4]

[4] "Torture in a tin: Viva! foie-gras fact sheet" (PDF). Viva!. 2014. Retrieved February 14, 2015.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foie_gras

So, using the above as a rough guide, and considering you want them plump and juicy, what do you think? 3 times day for around six months?

Eating foie gras is a practically a religious experience for some aficionados, so it has to be perfect!

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I'm tired of this back-slapping "Isn't humanity neat?" bullshit. We're a virus with shoes, okay? That's all we are. - Bill Hicks

Politics is the entertainment branch of industry. - Frank Zappa

Bollox Ref's picture

Well played, Democrats. Well played!

Carry on with the McResistance.

(I'm looking at you, Moosetits™)

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Gëzuar!!
from a reasonably stable genius.

Cant Stop the Macedonian Signal's picture

with their supporters, unless by supporters you mean the billionaires who gave them the job.

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"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha

"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver

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@Cant Stop the Macedonian Signal

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"The object of persecution is persecution. The object of torture is torture. The object of power is power. Now do you begin to understand me?" ~Orwell, "1984"

@Cant Stop the Macedonian Signal In the midst of all the outrage, I find myself asking what Hillary/the DNC (Sanders aside) were proposing that was radically different than what's happening now? At the very least, they sure weren't offering any fixes that I could see. Maybe the bleeding was slower, but the outcome was ultimately the same.

I'm glad some of the Democrats are now jumping on the Medicare for All train but I'm extremely skeptical that the support is anything more than an attempt to sheepdog voters back into the fold, knowing that they'd need to flip a ton of Republicans to actually get this in place.

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Idolizing a politician is like believing the stripper really likes you.

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@Dr. John Carpenter

...the bleeding was slower, but the outcome was ultimately the same.

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Compensated Spokes Model for Big Poor.

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@Dr. John Carpenter until they get to the point where they wield power of any sort. Once they are in a position to actually accomplish something, they cave in every time, citing the said liberal policies as "impossible".

It's very much a game.

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"Obama promised transparency, but Assange is the one who brought it."

Rich people of every stripe are repulsed by poor people of every stripe. The working stiffs are necessary to change the oil in their Rolls Royces, clean their commodes, and to wipe shit off their kid's asses.
They absolutely lose their minds when paying taxes that might help those shit wipers. And the rich know when the current shit wipers die, there will be others to take their place.

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"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981

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I never knew that the term "Never Again" only pertained to
those born Jewish

"Antisemite used to be someone who didn't like Jews
now it's someone who Jews don't like"

Heard from Margaret Kimberley

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"The object of persecution is persecution. The object of torture is torture. The object of power is power. Now do you begin to understand me?" ~Orwell, "1984"

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@ggersh

          I think it fits here, so here it sits:


Work But No Jobs
Work But No Jobs

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@PriceRip
and yet so far outside the Overton Window that the words may as well have been written in an alien language.

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and what real sophisticates calling themselves Democrats do, is that poor people, hell!, most people are too stupid to know when they don't have enough to live. And even if they knew, they wouldn't care.
Ignoring them, and focusing efforts on how people feel about themselves, is how you win elections.

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Orwell: Where's the omelette?

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@jim p I'm afraid the Democrats aren't any good at that either.

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"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha

"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver

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I keep having to clean off my iPad screen

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Which AIPAC/MIC/pharma/bank bought politician are you going to vote for? Don’t be surprised when nothing changes.

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@snoopydawg who are the spooky children?

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Life is strong. I'm weak, but Life is strong.

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@featheredsprite
are from American Horror Story: Hotel.
it's just so fitting for the Trump family. The only thing that would make it funnier is if it were the Adamss family.

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@snoopydawg Really? Cause the girls look like the girls from The Shining.

And I thought I saw that ghost nun from some a movie.

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@Strife Delivery
The person who posted this said that's where they came from.
The specter person could be from the Lady in Black. I don't know where the boy came from. I stopped watching AHS Hotel because it was horrible. The first 3 seasons were good.

You are right. The girls are from The Shining. I'm not sure where the other two are from.

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@snoopydawg How could you not recognize the Antichrist? The boy is Damien Thorn from The Omen.

Edit: Also showing my age by the fact that I didn't recognize the ghost nun. She is from a movie called The Conjuring 2 (2016). Since this is recent, I have't seen it and have no interest in seeing it.

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Yaldabaoth, Saklas I'm calling you. Samael. You're not alone. I said, you're not alone, in your darkness. You're not alone, baby. You're not alone. "Original Sinsuality" Tori Amos

@snoopydawg
[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6QzbvH-ZNo]

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Beware the bullshit factories.

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@snoopydawg Also question: Why are Ivanka and Melania wearing black veils? That makes it seem like a funeral.

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@Strife Delivery
More strict than the Saudis!
AP story.

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“We may not be able to change the system, but we can make the system irrelevant in our lives and in the lives of those around us.”—John Beckett

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@Strife Delivery
I grew up during the time that the church made women wear veils like the ones that they are wearing. The church finally changed that practice.

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@snoopydawg

It's The Trumpsters. (The Addams Family had way more suave.)

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So do most of his voters.

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I've seen lots of changes. What doesn't change is people. Same old hairless apes.

@The Voice In the Wilderness But I see an awakening coming for them when they get to bring Grandma home to live with them once she's kicked out of Skilled Nursing. I've hammered on my own stepmom for just this type of thing - both her sister and my dad died on MediCal in Skilled Nursing. I don't think her sister was a rabid Repugnant loon but both my dad and stepmom were. While my stepmom would say "no biggie" to taking care of my dad at home as her excuse, she did try that but until he could no longer drink he was one hell of a hard day's work. And when that leg was amputated and he was on a ventilator, well she'd have had to hire help for that. But never mind that ugly little reality out of me, as she would say I'm just being negative, God will provide when the time comes.....

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Only a fool lets someone else tell him who his enemy is. Assata Shakur

More Trump country

Blue Cross and Blue Shield of Kansas City is pulling out of 32 counties in Kansas and Missouri next year because the insurer says it has lost more than $100 million on Obamacare.

The company is the latest to pull out of the individual insurance market for 2018, following major defections in Iowa and several other states.

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Medicaid is not "insurance" it is CARE (at least in San Mateo county) Language is important - do not use the enemy's rhetoric!
Also,people are not losing $6000 in subsidies, they are gaining freedom from having to pay insurance premiums. Now if they could just get some health care…
Uh, the "Dems" do not have an answer, they are blocking the answer. There is an answer, and the people who call for it are members of the Democratic Party, but they are fighting the Party - never forget that!

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A couple days ago. I tune in to various mis-speakers regularly as a way of improving my cognitive dissonance. Something I think extremely important in this day of false hopes. Too many people can't find their way thru the daily deluge and morass of information coming their way. So Limbaugh was saying something about the single payer bill here in California. The gist of it is that the California budget is 200 billion and single payer is said to cost 400 billion. Wow I said so much for that ...never going to work. People will never go for that tax rise. Then I thought it thru and realized once again Limbaugh was using omission or slanted information.
I have heard we spend abour 17 percent of our GDP on healthcare, double most healthy world economies. So what is 17 percent of California's GDP of 2.44 trillion dollars. I'll let you do the math but you will see that we are already spending 400 billion on healthcare.
So what is the diarist really saying underneath fly swatting a few corporate Dems and a certain ironic schedenfraude about Trump voters.
The willful ignorance and acting on mis information by many Americans. So many of us have just gone to ground and ignore most of it. Many do not even vote. Whatever the zeitgeist spews out infects us temporarily and then passes on to the next horrific meme. Some become TRUE BELIEVERS. This has become quite dangerous.

And further the breakdown in COMPLEX systems. A subject that is invisible to many. We are losing on all fronts here. Diminishing returns on complexity.

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@Song of the lark innuendo, lies when neither of those work, and then insults to top it all off and make him and his idiot ditto heads feel oh so good about themselves. Both of my parents were ditto heads. When I moved my mother up here and had to clean out her house, she was absolutely forbidden to turn that idiot on. And while that might sound a bit harsh to some, she also knew she would not hear that idiot spew if I was in the room because I would scream back at it. She also listened to him IN HER SLEEP, she taped his garbage so she could listen to it when going to sleep. I don't know how you manage to subject yourself to listening to that, you're a far stronger person than I am.

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Only a fool lets someone else tell him who his enemy is. Assata Shakur

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@lizzyh7

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"The object of persecution is persecution. The object of torture is torture. The object of power is power. Now do you begin to understand me?" ~Orwell, "1984"

@Song of the lark @Song of the lark

That must be our fatal flaw as humans, we're too pre-disposed to passivity in the face of omnipresent yet never present voices of religious/political/financial "authority", to stop our own serfdom. We never should have stopped hunting and gathering.

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Beware the bullshit factories.