Welcome to Saturday's Potluck - Oct 14, 2023

“Learn the rules like a pro, so you can break them like an artist.”
Pablo Picasso

My journey into early American history keeps circling back to global wars. This time exploring areas claimed and settled by Virginian residents.

Surprise - George Washington fired the first shots leading to the French-American war and the global 7 year war.

Thomas Lee, Stratford Hall and the Ohio Company (1:24:50)(starts at 55 to subject ends 58:44 min) 2022

The Seven Years' War (1756–1763) was a global conflict that involved most of the European great powers and was fought primarily in Europe, the Americas, and Asia-Pacific. Other concurrent conflicts include the French and Indian War (1754–1763), the Carnatic Wars (1744–1763), and the Anglo-Spanish War (1762–1763). The opposing alliances were led by Great Britain and France, respectively, both seeking to establish global pre-eminence at the expense of the other.
Wikipedia Oct 2023
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Middle East Theater

The geopolitics of Al-Aqsa Flood The Cradle by Pepe Escobar Oct 03, 2023

Hamas’ Operation Al-Aqsa Flood was meticulously planned. The launch date was conditioned by two triggering factors.

First was Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu flaunting his 'New Middle East' map at the UN General Assembly in September, in which he completely erased Palestine and made a mockery of every single UN resolution on the subject.

Second are the serial provocations at the holy Al-Aqsa Mosque in Jerusalem, including the straw that broke the camel’s back: two days before Al-Aqsa Flood, on 5 October, at least 800 Israeli settlers launched an assault around the mosque, beating pilgrims, destroying Palestinian shops, all under the observation of Israeli security forces.
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Egyptian intel claims it warned Tel Aviv about an imminent attack from Hamas. The Israelis chose to ignore it, as they did the Hamas training drills they observed in the weeks prior, smug in their superior knowledge that Palestinians would never have the audacity to launch a liberation operation.

The war has started The Cradle Oct 9, 2023
Hamas did not coordinate its military operation with any of its Resistance Axis allies. It also did not plan to achieve the stunning results that were soon to follow. The Qassam Brigades' immediate goal was only to destroy Israeli army positions around the Gaza Strip and capture as many soldiers as possible, which they could later exchange for the thousands of Palestinian captives in Israeli prisons.

But the Palestinian resistance forces were taken by surprise at the laxity of the occupation army. Contrary to expectations, they stumbled upon security vacuums and poorly guarded military sites in which a large number of enemy soldiers and officers were fast asleep. It was this unexpected opportunity that prodded the Palestinian fighters to reach for bigger gains.

Hamas' military leadership planned to carry out this operation in complete secrecy. Just weeks earlier, their fighters had conducted military maneuvers/exercises that were observed by the Israelis. But Tel Aviv's rather complacent intelligence assessment had been that "Hamas is training for what it does not dare to do." The Israelis, in short, thought that Hamas was merely flexing in order to gain financial concessions for Gaza. No actual operation was ever expected by Israel's military brass.

Whatever happens next, Al-Aqsa Flood has already, irretrievably, shattered the hefty pop mythology around the invincibility of Tsahal, Mossad, Shin Bet, Merkava tank, Iron Dome, and the Israel Defense Forces.
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The Israelis can merrily engage in collective punishment because, with three guaranteed UNSC vetoes in their back pocket, they know they can get away with it.
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Elsewhere in the region, the Atlanticist drive of opening strategic corridors across the Five Seas - the Caspian, the Black Sea, the Red Sea, the Persian Gulf, and the Eastern Mediterranean - is floundering badly.
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Al-Aqsa Flood has also just buried the recently-announced and much-ballyhooed EU-Israel-Saudi Arabia-India transportation corridor.
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China is keenly aware of all this incandescence taking place only a week before its 3rd Belt and Road Forum in Beijing. At stake are the BRI connectivity corridors that matter – across the Heartland, across Russia, plus the Maritime Silk Road and the Arctic Silk Road.

This did not take long to be discredited.
Source of dubious ‘beheaded babies’ claim is Israeli settler leader who incited riots to ‘wipe out’ Palestinian village The Grayzone Oct 11, 2011

The Grayzone has now identified a key source of the claim that Palestinian militants beheaded Israeli babies. He is David Ben Zion, a Deputy Commander of Unit 71 of the Israeli army who also happens to be an extremist settler leader who incited violent riots against Palestinians in the occupied West Bank earlier this year.

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Economic Theater

China
US Grants TSMC Waiver Extension to Import Chipmaking Equipment Into China Sputnik Global Oct 13, 2023

One of the biggest chipmakers in the world, Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Co. (TSMC), has been granted an extended waiver from US trade sanctions targeting China. This development ensures TSMC's unhindered procurement of ultramodern chip production equipment for its operations in China, says a high-ranking official in Taiwan.

Israel
Israel’s intel failure is 'bad for business' The Cradle Oct 13, 2023

The sheer scale and intensity of the Palestinian resistance's Operation Al-Aqsa Flood took Israel and the world by surprise last week. Even seasoned western intelligence agency veterans, who possess intimate knowledge of Israel's surveillance capabilities, struggled to provide any plausible explanation for the glaring security gaps.
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Yet, despite this apparently formidable fifth column and Tel Aviv's construction of “a high-security barrier around Hamas’ stronghold in hemmed-in Gaza - buttressed by motion sensors and extending deep under the ground” - hundreds of Palestinian fighters were able to breach those defenses without difficulty.

This they did from multiple fronts, using boats, tunnels, motorbikes, and paragliders, infiltrating ten occupation army bases, and killing hundreds of sleeping Israeli troops.

Al-Aqsa Flood involved arranging multiple rocket launch systems, ground forces, vehicles, and other equipment in sensitive positions in advance of its execution, leaving resistance fighters and their equipment exposed to surveillance from assorted angles, yet they were neither detected nor intercepted.
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Last year, the Times of Israel reported that in 2021, the country’s overall cybersecurity exports were estimated at $11 billion.

In addition, 33 percent of cyber unicorn companies operate from Israel, and a whopping 40 percent of global private cyber investments have been funneled into the country, according to the Israeli government.
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In recent years, revelations of foreign governments and security agencies being implicated in scandals due to their covert use of Pegasus have become disturbingly routine. This invasive tool was developed by the NSO Group, founded by a former Mossad operative.

A 2021 Carnegie Endowment investigation revealed that 56 different states had procured this technology, as well as other spyware and "digital forensics" innovations from Israeli competitors like Candiru, Cellebrite, and Cytrox.
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Mere days before Operation al-Aqsa Flood commenced, Israeli media reported on a “record-breaking spike” in countries buying Israeli cyber warfare and intelligence systems from 67 to 83 over 2022, and marketing licenses for these wares granted to 126 countries.
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Ironically, one of the most intriguing explanations proposed thus far is that Palestinians utilized Huawei smartphones for their digital communications. The much-maligned Chinese company has faced sanctions from the US and its international allies, ostensibly for being associated with the Communist Party.

Yet it may be due to their refusal to insert backdoors into their technology and devices at the behest of western intelligence agencies.

It has been suggested that the satellite communication function of Huawei Mate 60 Pro, for instance, “allows the phone to make calls and transmit data without a network connection, thus avoiding the surveillance of Pegasus spyware.”

Gaza
This project will likely be frozen again.
How a Gaza Marine Deal Could Benefit Palestinians, Israelis and the Region United States Institute of Peace August 3, 2023

Amid today’s dismal Israeli-Palestinian context, positive developments have been in short supply. However, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s June announcement of preliminary approval for the development of the Gaza Marine gas fields provided a rare glimpse of a potential win-win opportunity. For the Palestinians, it could provide a much-needed boost to their lagging economy and the cash-strapped Palestinian Authority (PA). On the Israeli side, it allows the Netanyahu government to claim it is assisting in improving living conditions in Gaza and could lead to less U.S. pressure on issues like settlement expansion.
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It was 1999 when Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Barak first allowed exploration of the area, and the PA granted British Gas (BG) exploration rights. BG discovered the Marine 1 and Marine 2 gas fields about 22 miles off the coast of Gaza in 2000. The project has been on hold since then, yet another victim to the dynamics of the ongoing conflict and occupation. After Shell acquired BG in 2016, the Consolidated Contractors Company and the Palestinian Investment Fund acquired Shell's interest in the fields, with each party owning 50%.

Negotiations were revived several times over the years. However, the project came back to the forefront following the Russian war on Ukraine and the ensuing global energy crisis. The recent effort is also inspired by the Israel-Lebanon maritime agreement and is encouraged by the establishment of the EastMed Gas Forum in which Egypt, Israel and Palestine are members, as well as the MOU to export natural gas from Israel to Europe via Egypt that was signed by Egypt, Israel and the European Union, who are still looking for alternatives to Russian gas.
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Notably, the only official announcement regarding Gaza Marine was the one issued by Israel. This reflects the cautious approach of all the other parties, their recognition of the volatility of the situation, and the challenges that any constructive step will have to face. The question remains whether this effort will proceed and succeed, particularly in light of the extremist nature of the current Israeli coalition, and its uncompromising stance toward the Palestinians.

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A little new info on another domestic conspiracy theory. Did the FBI secretly steal Civil War gold find as the treasure hunters claim? Associated Press has been keeping the CT story alive.

New witnesses share what they saw in the woods during a secretive FBI hunt for Civil War gold Associated Press News Oct 7, 2023

The FBI’s highly unusual search for buried Civil War-era treasure more than five years ago set in motion a dispute over what, if anything, the agency unearthed and an https://apnews.com/article/politics-war-and-unrest-pennsylvania-clearfie... over key records. There’s so much intrigue that even a federal judge felt compelled to note in a ruling last week: “The FBI may have found the gold — or maybe not.”

Now, two witnesses have come forward to share with The Associated Press what they heard and saw in the woods that late-winter morning, raising questions about the FBI’s timeline and adding plot twists to a saga that blends elements of legend, fact and science – and a heavy dose of government secrecy.

The FBI insists nothing came of the https://apnews.com/article/b8b4d27254814894b3a79aa3083fb356 in Dents Run, a remote wooded valley about 110 miles (177 kilometers) northeast of Pittsburgh. But a treasure hunter who led FBI agents to the hillside where an 1863 gold shipment might have been buried is challenging the government’s denials. How could the dig have come up empty, he asks, when the FBI’s own scans showed the likelihood of a buried metal mass equaling hundreds of millions of dollars in gold?

McCarthy, a 45-year-old elk guide, had never met treasure hunter Dennis Parada. But he watched from afar as Parada took the FBI to court and told his story in the media. McCarthy recently decided to share his own story because he thought Parada, who spent years looking for the gold before approaching the FBI with his findings, has been treated unfairly.

“I just felt like I needed to say what I saw, you know?” McCarthy explained. “I have no ties to anybody here. It’s just I felt like they were wronged.”
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The interviewer Godfrey Bloom was elected to British Parliament for his region as a member of the conservative UK Independence Party. Eventually controversial actions and speech lost him the whip position in his party. British patriarchal arrogance is one way of explaining his outlook of life. Fresh look at history of conflict area and do not often see verbal sparring at this level of competency.

Russia Ukraine War UPDATE: Russian Victory & The End Game - With Colonel Douglas Macgregor (46:33 min)

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Why did Hamas attack Israelis? w/ Phil Giraldi fmr CIA (23:17 min) Oct 13, 2023

How Israel will affect Ukraine - Intel Round Table w/Larry Johnson & Ray McGovern (23:38 min) Oct 13, 2023

The livestream videos this week by Judge Napolitano channel ongoing discussions regarding current events in Israel/Hamas/Gaza and secondary subject Ukraine/Russia conflict. The interviews are generally posted on Monday through Friday if would like to view them in a more timely manner. The link opens in the LIVE column, occasionally an interview only appears in VIDEOS section.

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Thanks for the news round up. I enjoyed Pepe's take.

Went to a small trade day with a bit of mist this morning. Bought another ryobi 18v tool in my ongoing collection...an air inflator for tires today...saves having to drag out the compressor or having to drive to the barn. Also bought a variety pack of bungees...always handy.

I only needed 4 gal of gas in my little GEO tracker, but couldn't resist the $2.80 price. GA really tries to keep their gas prices down. I think the AL price is about $3.20. I bet all the mess in the ME means higher prices coming at the pump.

While in town I went to the grocery for a few items. I normally do my big shop on Tuesday's after trade day.

The fall garden is doing well. Cabbage, collards, broccoli and lettuce all look good and are about ready for some harvesting. Still have green tomatoes. I pick them as they turn pink, or the birds will beat me to it pecking holes in them. Then let them ripen on the kitchen counter. Still lots of peppers. We plan on making pepper sauce this week, a nice red and green Xmas present for friends...and to use through the year. Sure adds a nice flavor to greens.

Thanks for the OT!

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“Until justice rolls down like water and righteousness like a mighty stream.”

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This makes one wonder who truly is in charge

EDIT: added this Eva Bartlett tweet, again who is really in charge

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I never knew that the term "Never Again" only pertained to
those born Jewish

"Antisemite used to be someone who didn't like Jews
now it's someone who Jews don't like"

Heard from Margaret Kimberley

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If Kennedy is beholden to Israel during the primary then will he be able to tell Bibi no when he decides to attack Iran? Getting rid of Saddam was Bibi's idea and I don’t doubt that he had something to win our destroying Libya and Syria too.

Bobby refuses to have any empathy for the people of Gaza who Israel has been ethnic cleansing for 75 nor for what they are going through right now with Israel slaughtering unarmed civilians. Almost 600 kids have been killed in one week.

This Way for the Genocide, Ladies and Gentlemen

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Israel, by employing its military machine against an occupied population that does not have mechanized units, an air force, navy, missiles, heavy artillery and command-and-control, not to mention a U.S. commitment to provide a $38 billion military aid package for Israel over the next decade, is not exercising “the right to defend itself.” This is not a war. It is the obliteration of civilians trapped for 16 years in the world’s largest concentration camp. Gaza is being leveled, flattened, destroyed, reduced to rubble. Hundreds of thousands of its impoverished residents will be killed, wounded or left homeless without food, fuel, water and medical help. Nearly 600 children are already dead.

Hell no this isn’t war. The Palestinians are being blamed for what Hamas did because they once voted for them in 2006 and no elections have been held since then. But also because they didn’t rise up and throw them out which I’m sure they know is impossible. Imagine Americans trying to rise up and throw the neocons out of government. That includes all the people in the war making think tanks. Yeah I bet that would go over just swell. How is Israel’s government calling Palestinians animals and non humans any different from what the Nazis called the Jews? Show me an inch of difference.

Yesterday HuffPost had a headline that stated that the state department told congress not to mention a cease fire or any words that calls for an end to the violence. Biden and the poodle leaders of the west are totally behind Israel slaughtering as many Palestinians as it wants.

Putin has said that what Israel is doing is just like what the Germans did to Leningrad where his older brother died. If Russia and Turkey are going to get humanitarian aid to Gaza they better do it quick or there won’t be anyone left who needs it.

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articles, links, videos and such. i thought that i'd mention that this is the anniversary of the battle of hastings where the normans under william the bastard beat the english under harold godwinson and kicked the norman conquest (of england) into high gear. it is also the anniversary of the massachusetts bay colony's first law punishing quakers for wrong-think.

and, before i forget, it is the birthday of e.e. cummings.

be well and have a good one

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That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --

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it meant that in the Colonies the conflict lasted nine years. (The Colonial western frontier was always restless, and French Canada was not slow to take advantage.)

A knock-on effect was the American Revolution, once Britain decided to recoup its war costs by taxing the Colonies for this that and other - no the trigger was NOT the slavery issue, no matter what the revisionists want you to believe. At most that was a secondary irritant to the southern Colonies - but the head of resistance was Massachusetts, where they were far more upset about these unexpected taxes.

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There is no justice. There can be no peace.

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Israeli settlers like it has the unprovoked attack by Hamas? Of course it won’t. This is just one of the many attacks that has happened in the last few days while the world is focusing on the carnage in Gaza.

At least seven Israeli settlers, some masked, invaded the village of Qusra on Wednesday with the protection of Israeli soldiers, and attacked the home of a Palestinian family, a field investigation by Defense for Children International - Palestine found.
Israeli settlers and soldiers fired “indiscriminately” at Palestinians who confronted the attackers, according to DCIP.

Israeli gunfire killed at least three Palestinians, including 17-year-old Obada Saed Abu Srour, who was shot in the back with the bullet exiting his chest.

And the Israeli settlers are still blocking Palestinians from the Al Aqsa Mosque. Of course the media isn’t reporting on this either.

Yesterday Israel told Palestinians to leave and then they bombed the cars that were trying to do just that. Where’s the fcking outrage about that? Israel better knock it the fck off or it’ll going to ignite the Sunni and Shiite (?) Muslims to join together against Israel. Why is it that Israel’s shit doesn’t stink?

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https://theintercept.com/2023/10/13/israel-settlers-gaza-palestinians-we...

Israeli Settlers Take Advantage of Gaza Chaos to Attack Palestinians in West Bank

Settlers and soldiers have killed 51 Palestinians in the West Bank since Saturday. At least two Palestinian villages have been entirely depopulated.

 
Behold the result of 75 years of “Never again”: it’s Kristallnacht cubed every day now.

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Behold the result of 75 years of “Never again”: it’s Kristallnacht cubed every day now.

The oppressed have become the oppressors. And yet they are still demanding sympathy for what happened to their families decades ago. Can’t remember who said it, but their sympathy is running out. Ritter or Johnson?

No one mentions the 30 millions Christians that were killed during the Bolshevik revolution. Ahh well at least we aren’t bombing the Native Americans on their reservations, but we are still doing awful things to them. Funny how no one talks about this.

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and he can't have imagined how terribly right he was:

Those to whom evil is done
Do evil in return.

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The political system is what it is because the People are who they are. — Plato

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Hopefully you know the answer. There is another person whose name is close to David Lloyd George, but I think he was Irish or Welsh. Do you have any idea who I’m trying to remember his name? You seem to be so knowledgeable about history.

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but perhaps you might be thinking of William Lloyd Garrison? Wikipeedia: "William Lloyd Garrison (December 10, 1805 – May 24, 1879) was an American abolitionist, journalist, and social reformer. He is best known for his widely read anti-slavery newspaper The Liberator, which Garrison founded in 1831 and published in Boston until slavery in the United States was abolished by the Thirteenth Amendment in 1865."
(He was also a raving antisemite.)

David Lloyd George, incidentally, was Welsh.

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David Lloyd George, incidentally, was Welsh.

It’s true then that I am related to him through my mother’s mother’s side of the family.
My grandma and aunt taught me how to speak welsh, but I only remember a few phrases now and will remember them to my grave.

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Thou shall not go off script!

https://news.yahoo.com/inside-msnbc-middle-east-conflict-205133461.html

MSNBC has quietly taken three of its Muslim broadcasters out of the anchor’s chair since Hamas’s attack on Israel last Saturday amid America’s wave of sympathy for Israeli terror victims.

The network did not air a scheduled Thursday night episode of The Mehdi Hasan Show on the streaming platform Peacock. MSNBC also reversed a plan for Ayman Mohyeldin to fill in this week on the network for host Joy Reid’s 7 p.m. show on Thursday and Friday. Mohyeldin, an Egyptian-American journalist and veteran NBC News correspondent covered the conflict from Gaza for two years. In 2021, he aggressively questioned Israeli leaders on strikes on the territory. Two network sources with knowledge of the plans told Semafor that the network also plans to have Alicia Menendez fill in this upcoming weekend for Ali Velshi, a third Muslim-American host who on Sunday interviewed a spokesman for the Palestinian Authority.

Some staff at MSNBC have been concerned by the moves, feeling all three hosts have some of the deepest knowledge of the conflict. NBC says the shifts are coincidental, and the three continue to appear on air to report and provide analysis.

I don't believe the corporate spin for 1 second

A company official vehemently pushed back against any notion that either Hasan or Mohyeldin were being sidelined in any way. Over the past several days, Mohyeldin has appeared on several programs on MSNBC as a guest including shows hosted by Reid and Chris Hayes. While he did not host Reid’s show, a network official said that the cable channel opted to stick with its more recognizable weekday hosts rather than hand over the reins to weekend anchors. Hasan’s Peacock show is taped, and the network official said his show was shelved in favor of keeping coverage on the NBC streaming service more up-to-date.

Edited to add this in case you missed it:

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@humphrey

That makes it more amazing that 2 pro Palestine guys were able to get on corporate media and say what they did. I’m betting someone got a boot up their arse for allowing that to happen.

Don’t go off script is what they state department is ordering too. There will be no intervening in what they are allowing Israel to do in Gaza and the West Bank. Damn them all.

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would not be happening without America's blessing.

A political settlement could quickly be achieved if the US just said STOP!

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U.S. Forces across the Middle East will Target a number of Pro-Iranian Groups in Syria and Iraq if this Escalates into a Regional Conflict.

Then get ready to see Iraq attacking US forces in the area and maybe Iran and other Muslim countries will join in. And you sure that Russia will just allow you to do that? You really want to risk WWW 3 instead of telling Bibi to knock it off? I swear we are being ruled by some of the dumbest people ever.

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@snoopydawg  
Any of Blinken, Biden & Co. could well be “Blackeneth” in the account of the Flame Deluge in the sci-fi novel A Canticle for Leibowitz.

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@humphrey stability means. Bibi's Dream Map.

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“… I gotta ask, ‘How's that hopey, changey thing working out for ya?’ ”

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I am exploring a historic community today, haven't been able to watch any videos, but have read lots of articles. Lots of very interesting stuff in this OT, Soe.
Has anyone seen a poll that measures support for Israel's war vs. those in this country that support Palestinians? What group is in the minority?
This reminds me of the argument that Russia was unprovoked, and now Hamas was unprovoked.
We USians have a very peculiar way of defining war provocation. After all, Sadam had weapons of mass destruction, amirite?
Where did the Ukie flags go?
Have a great weekend, everyone.

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@on the cusp

The Democratic Socialists of America (DSA) congressperson from New York City Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez suggested last week that it should not be so hard to “shut down” pro-Palestinian demonstrations in New York City. Her DSA-supported colleague, Jamaal Bowman, also from New York, said he was disgusted with last week’s protest in defense of Palestinians.

Disgusted with people who object to genocide. Jamaal? Maybe it’s you who should look in a mirror and see the evil looking back at you. People aren’t saying that they support what Hamas did. They are saying that they do not support wiping out every person living in the country they rule. I read that most of the leaders don’t live in Palestine, but in Qatar. Kinda hard for people to have access to them so they can rise up against when they can’t leave their fcking prison.

And it’d sure be nice if the media explained to the Israeli supporters how Bibi had a hand in creating Hamas. But then that would get people thinking why did he do that boneheaded move?

I think the latest poll shows that 25% of Americans support Palestinians. The tide is slowly turning. Lots of Jews took part in the NYC Palestinian demonstration.

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@humphrey I studied this for a while as a part of training once. It was called this, not the "law of war." In any case, I'm having difficulty understanding the apparently indiscriminate bombing of residential neighborhoods, and other off limit targets, like hospitals, in Gaza. On their face, these attacks look like prima facie violations of various prohibitions.

When I first became aware (years ago) that Israel bombed civilian areas in Gaza to "fight terrorists," I regarded the practice as presumptively disproportionate. What is the rationale for destroying buildings with heavy air to ground weapons where large numbers of civilians are present, including children? In any case, looking at the current situation as a whole, the object of the Israeli attacks appears to be ethnic cleansing, rather than a legitimate military campaign. In this sense it resembles various Israeli military campaigns since the 1940s. See Ilan Pappe's The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine.

Article 51 - Protection of the civilian population

1. The civilian population and individual civilians shall enjoy general protection against dangers arising from military operations. To give effect to this protection, the following rules, which are additional to other applicable rules of international law, shall be observed in all circumstances.

2. The civilian population as such, as well as individual civilians, shall not be the object of attack. Acts or threats of violence the primary purpose of which is to spread terror among the civilian population are prohibited.

3. Civilians shall enjoy the protection afforded by this Section, unless and for such time as they take a direct part in hostilities.

4. Indiscriminate attacks are prohibited. Indiscriminate attacks are:

(a) those which are not directed at a specific military objective;

(b) those which employ a method or means of combat which cannot be directed at a specific military objective; or

(c) those which employ a method or means of combat the effects of which cannot be limited as required by this Protocol;

and consequently, in each such case, are of a nature to strike military objectives and civilians or civilian objects without distinction.

5. Among others, the following types of attacks are to be considered as indiscriminate:

(a) an attack by bombardment by any methods or means which treats as a single military objective a number of clearly separated and distinct military objectives located in a city, town, village or other area containing a similar concentration of civilians or civilian objects; and

(b) an attack which may be expected to cause incidental loss of civilian life, injury to civilians, damage to civilian objects, or a combination thereof, which would be excessive in relation to the concrete and direct military advantage anticipated.

6. Attacks against the civilian population or civilians by way of reprisals are prohibited.

7. The presence or movements of the civilian population or individual civilians shall not be used to render certain points or areas immune from military operations, in particular in attempts to shield military objectives from attacks or to shield, favour or impede military operations. The Parties to the conflict shall not direct the movement of the civilian population or individual civilians in order to attempt to shield military objectives from attacks or to shield military operations.

8. Any violation of these prohibitions shall not release the Parties to the conflict from their legal obligations with respect to the civilian population and civilians, including the obligation to take the precautionary measures provided for in Article 57 .

The armed forces and their installations are objectives that may be attacked wherever they are, except when the attack could incidentally result in loss of human life among the civilian population, injuries to civilians, and damage to civilian objects which would be excessive in relation to the expected direct and specific military advantage. In combat areas (15) it often happens that purely civilian [p.621] buildings or installations are occupied or used by the armed forces and such objectives may be attacked, provided that this does not result in excessive losses among the civilian population. For example, it is clear that if fighting between armed forces takes place in a town which is defended house by house, these buildings -- for which Article 52 ' (General protection of civilian objects), ' paragraph 3, lays down a presumption regarding their civilian use -- will inevitably become military objectives because they offer a definite contribution to the military action. However, this is still subject to the prohibition of an attack causing excessive civilian losses.

Proportionality in the Conduct of Hostilities

Geneva Convention IV

Civilian hospitals organized to give care to the wounded and sick, the infirm and maternity cases, may in no circumstances be the object of attack but shall at all times be respected and protected by the Parties to the conflict.

The prohibition of collective punishments is stated in the Hague Regulations and the Third and Fourth Geneva Conventions.[2] The prohibition is recognized in Additional Protocols I and II as a fundamental guarantee for all civilians and persons hors de combat.[3]

https://ihl-databases.icrc.org/en/customary-ihl/v1/rule103#:~:text=inter....

There are many other prohibitions and principles of humanitarian law and the law of armed conflict implicated in the current Israel-Palestine conflict. It's not possible to address them all here. Norman Finklestein attempted to address some basics today on a JD video I saw without getting all legalistic which obscures the subject matter in terms of mass communications.

One of the things that is really concerning is the picture of US politicians, the president, and other officials appearing to encourage Israel's current brutal approach to Palestine. This could have been a golden opportunity to restore the US image abroad to some degree, by acting in a more impartial role, acting as a restraint on Israel's attacks on Palestine which jeopardize civilians, and make some effort to stop the conflict and bring the parties to some sort of cease fire, and dialogue. Instead, any objection to Israel's conduct is regarded as a "third rail" of US domestic politics, and additionally as a media opportunity for demagoguery. There is a lynch mob dynamic at work in these wars and the propaganda they generate. There is no reflection, no reservation, no restraint, as politicians grandstand and whip up base human emotions of revenge and bloodlust to further their ambitions.

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One of the things that is really concerning is the picture of US politicians, the president, and other officials appearing to encourage Israel's current brutal approach to Palestine.

From yesterday’s HuffPost headline:

Stunning State Department Memo Warns Diplomats: No Gaza 'De-Escalation' Talk

No 'seem to be' about it. They want the genocide to happen. They are accessories to the ethnic cleansing and genocide. Ahh well. Roosevelt promised the Jews in his administration that the Jews could have all of Palestine and no Arabs would live in it. It’s just taken 75 years to accomplish that goal.

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They are doing exactly as they are told.

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See his latest essay on the Israel genocide.

He seems to try to be neutral in his reporting, but he’s just pissed at how the media is portraying the Israeli response.

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You beat me to it. Good job. Now to finish reading it.

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I’m so behind on my reading and I’m running out of time to do it tonight. So many people are posting great articles and it seems that the tide is shifting against Israel. Not at the top, but the people who have been pro Israel for so long are finally seeing it for what it truly is.

Simplicius is exposing the ethnic cleansing plan as are many other people. I’ve been there for a long time and it’s good to see others joining me.

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Your observation touched me strongly. Like so many of us, I find it very difficult to understand why people, especially those with the power to do so, don’t try to resolve conflicts without adding more fuel to the fire. What can one expect with that type of approach but more tragedy for all. I wish there was a simple and harmless way to erase hatred and revenge from everyone minds.

One of the things that is really concerning is the picture of US politicians, the president, and other officials appearing to encourage Israel's current brutal approach to Palestine. This could have been a golden opportunity to restore the US image abroad to some degree, by acting in a more impartial role, acting as a restraint on Israel's attacks on Palestine which jeopardize civilians, and make some effort to stop the conflict and bring the parties to some sort of cease fire, and dialogue. Instead, any objection to Israel's conduct is regarded as a "third rail" of US domestic politics, and additionally as a media opportunity for demagoguery.

Thank you

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@janis b ...for some time Janis. As a young man, I was on duty in the Mediterranean, and although I only spent six months there, I spent the next four and a half years briefing the geopolitical/military situation in the middle east and training to go back.

My briefings were popular among the pilots, I know they looked forward to them. This was not too long after the two wars, 67 and 73, which fortunately I had nothing to do with (or the Cyprus war shortly after). It was very frustrating not seeing progress on these issues beyond the worsening extreme plight of the Palestinian people over the decades under Israeli apartheid and settler policies. I have generally refrained from commenting on it.

I came across this Mearsheimer article that is a few years old, but I liked his conclusion. Too bad no one took his advice in the last two paragraphs.

The U.S. Should Act as an Honest Broker

I would have done an outtake but the copyright holder appears to object.

고마워 친구 야 Thanks Janis.

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I thought lobbies were for the public to gather in and mingle. Todays lobbies are confined to the incestuous activity between big business and the government, leaving no room for others. It’s so sad.

I’m sorry for the frustration and discouragement you feel, knowing that there are better solutions possible.

Thank you for the Mearsheimer article and the insight it provides.

I hope you are comfortable in your rebuilt home, and happy that Florida cruised though the hurricane season.

And thank you for the beautiful Korean characters and sweet sentiment.

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@janis b We had a crazy weather week last week. It rained and rained until a couple of days ago when a cool front came through and stopped it. This is literally the first cool weather we've had in about six months. I think it was three days ago, I was awakened at 4:59am by a National Emergency Alert for tornadoes. (I'm embarrassed to admit it, but I didn't hear the freight train noise, so I just went back to sleep). Actually one touched down about 6 miles or so north of here ten minutes before the alert, but only damaged a few homes, nobody was hurt. On the Gulf coast they weren't so lucky, a town Crystal River, had a more powerful tornado touch down and I think a couple of dozen homes and businesses were damaged. This was after they had suffered hurricane damage a few weeks before that. My daughter told me a tornado damaged some homes in her neighborhood in Odessa FL. ( When I was visiting there a few weeks ago, an alligator ate her neighbors dog).

My next door neighbor had some bad luck, in the heavy rains, a very large oak tree lost a large limb, as big as an ordinary tree really, and part of it fell on his home. Another large limb fell today but didn't hit the house. I know he doesn't have any insurance, and had been working on his house in his spare time for months after the Ian flood Sep 31, 2022. Ironically, there is a stupid MS program that keeps upholding photos I took after the Ian flood last year to document our damages for insurance purposes. It says something stupid like, relive the great memories from this date from your photo files on one drive. Today, I had a fishing email today from someone pretending to be MS. They say they are going to shut down my email. Anyway, the theme here is what weird thing is going to happen next.

I hope everything is going well at your home, and that you are on solid ground. Believe it or not there were other off beat events, I won't dwell on. With all the bad news around the world in the media... oh well. My home is mostly repaired. There are some things I have left undone, and still lots of unpacked items. We were going to move out this year, but the real estate prices are out of control, maybe next year.

I just learned from TK a Korean=American expert I follow that a famous journalist in South Korea from the JTBC media network just retired. His name is Son Seok-hee. I think he worked at JTBC since 2013. I started following him about a year or so after the Sewol Ferry disaster when I retired in 2015 and during the impeachment hearings on President Park Geun-hye. I really got a great foundation in modern Korean politics and history from him. I translated portions of his broadcasts every day and discussed them in a chat forum with some friends, who are no longer with us. When he went off the air in 2021, I was so upset. He was still president of JTBC news. He was voted the most trusted new source in South Korea for years.

Sohn Suk-hee

Great to hear from you. The Korean words mean thankyou friend.

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I’m glad you dodged a bullet.

How nightmarish for the dog and its family, and even for you and your daughter to know of.

I’ve never been north of Tampa, but from the map Odessa looks like alligator territory, not that alligators don’t rule much of Florida’s territory, or used to at least.

Finding the photos you personally took to document the flood in a foreign context is weird, but might be what can be expected these days of little privacy and AI interference. "To relive the experience", as if it is something positive, is positively unreal, but so is the hollowness of these non-human drives.

Kia Kaha, Stay Strong

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Netanyahu’s “False Flag” Is a “Copy and Paste”: The Pentagon’s Secret “Operation Northwoods”(1962) Directed Against Cuba. “Casualty Lists Would Cause a Helpful Wave of Indignation”

The Northwoods 1962 document was titled “Justification for U.S. Military Intervention in Cuba"

Author’s Introductory Note

Early Saturday October 7, 2023, Hamas launched “Operation Al-Aqsa Storm.” On that same day, Netanyahu confirmed a so-called “State of Readiness For War.A complete blockade on the Gaza Strip was initiated on October 9, 2023 consisting in blocking and obstructing the importation of food, water, fuel, and essential commodities to 2.3 million Palestinians. It’s an outright crime against humanity. It’s genocide.

Was “Operation Al-Aqsa Storm” a “surprise attack”? Was it a “False Flag” Attack by a faction within Hamas which was intent upon justifying Netanyahu’s all out war against Palestine?

this stage we have scanty evidence regarding who was behind the Hamas attack. False flag agendas are carefully planned intelligence operations.

The following article, which is of relevance to the Hamas Al Aqsa Storm attack, examines the logic of a “false flag agenda” formulated in 1962 by the US Joint Chiefs of Staff as a means to justify an invasion and all-out war against Cuba.

The fundamental premise of Operation Northwoods was to trigger civilian deaths in the U.S. as a justification for military intervention (“on humanitarian grounds”). That same diabolical “false flag” premise largely characterizes Netanyahu’s all-out war against Palestine.

Operation Northwoods was prepared by the Joint Chiefs of Staff with the support of US intelligence. The logic of this false flag plan was

“to kill innocent people and commit acts of terrorism in U.S. cities to create public support for a war against Cuba”.

“Casualty Lists Would Cause a Helpful Wave of Indignation”.

President John F. Kennedy refused to carry out “Operation Northwoods.” That happened a year before his assassination in November 1963.

The secret documents pertaining to Operation Northwoods were declassified more than 15 years ago.

Read them carefully. Netanyahu’s war on the People of Palestine is a “copy and paste” of “Operation Northwoods.”

While the implementation of Operation Northwoods was shelved, its fundamental (diabolical) premise of using civilian deaths (described by the Pentagon as a “massive casualty producing event”) as a justification for military intervention (“on humanitarian grounds”) remains of utmost relevance.

This article was first published in 2016.

Our thoughts are with the people of Palestine and Israel who are the victims of Netanyahu’s criminal agenda.

We are also having a rerun of Iraqi soldiers throwing babies out of incubators with Hamas has cut off the heads of 40 Israeli babies. Joe Biden told us that he had seen the pictures of the headless babies. The WH walked back his statement and said that he never saw the pictures. But how many people got outraged about what Biden said and don’t know that he was lying and they still believe it?

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Israel’s 9/11

“They hate us. They hate what America represents. They hate our freedoms”, we were told. Some people bought that story after a while, but on the day of the attack, it seemed a stretch that there were people out there that hated our freedom so much that they would give their own lives to ruin it for us.

We were told that the terrorists hated us for our freedoms and so they killed themselves because they were so upset that we had them. And then our own government took most of them away. Sure that makes sense.

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Nothing to see here.

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Bristol police shoot man who approached two women while naked at Colt State Park

This is probably best filed under "you can't make this sh*t up"

.. the event began when two college students were walking through Colt State Park when they were approached by a naked man, who made "hand gestures" that made them uncomfortable and resulted in them fleeing to the parking lot of the Bristol police station. The suspect, who apparently followed them in a vehicle of his own, began ramming their car in the parking lot, causing them to shout for help, which eventually resulted in the on-duty desk Sergeant to respond to the parking lot.

The wording is a bit strange, but the assailant was naked, not the girls.
In what type of society do people like this exist? Oh, ours, I forgot.

https://eastbayri.com/stories/bristol-police-shoot-man-who-approached-tw...

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Zelensky gags media on corruption – editor-in-chief

The Ukrainian president reportedly told journalists not to mention the issue until the end of the Russia-Ukraine conflict

President Vladimir Zelensky has allegedly ordered Ukrainian journalists to avoid bringing up the topic of corruption instead of reporting it to the authorities, the editor-in-chief of the Zerkalo Nedeli (‘Mirror of the Week’) news outlet has claimed.

Speaking at the National Media Talk 2023, Yulia Mostovaya said that she had learned of Zelensky's demand from colleagues who had attended an off-the-record meeting with him.

The president reportedly made the request after the Ukrainian press published reports about inflated food prices paid by the country’s armed forces.

According to Ukrainian media reports, including Zerkalo Nedeli, the Defense Ministry had been buying food and clothing for its service members at prices two to three times higher than the market price. For example, the ministry paid up to 17 hryvnia ($0.47) for a single egg and 22 hryvnia ($0.60) for a kilogram of potatoes, while the average prices for those goods at stores in Kiev at the time were about 7 hryvnia ($0.19) and 8 hryvnia ($0.22), respectively.

Mostovaya stated that Zelensky’s request to avoid the topic of corruption in media publications was something the Ukrainian press may have considered if Zelensky had presented it in a “balanced manner” and explained that reporting on such issues could affect Ukraine’s battlefield capabilities.

The issue of corruption in Ukraine has repeatedly been brought up by journalists and officials, both within the country and in the West.

Last week, the former president of the European Commission, Jean-Claude Juncker, stated that Ukraine will likely be unable to join the EU anytime soon because it is “corrupt at all levels of society.” He also urged Brussels not to make any “false promises” to the Ukrainian people who are already “up to their neck in suffering.”

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