Ukraine's BIG offensive is finally showing results

You might recall how I've been closely following all of the news media reporting about how Ukraine has been gearing up for their HUGE, GINORMOUS, OVERWHELMING, COUNTER-OFFENSIVE in which they are going to take back the city of Kherson from Russia.

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This is what the map from Ukraine livemap has been showing pretty much all month, without much change. Russian occupied regions are in red.
Well, I checked it today and the front lines have finally started to move.

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See! Ukrainian forces are advancing...to the rear!

Let's see how the news media has reported this stunning victory.

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I just Thank Gawd that I live in a country where the news media doesn't try to shove war propaganda down my throat.

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seems to grow steadily. Perhaps I am being misled, but

#1 - I do not consume western media disinformation
#2 - sites like RT, Spuntik, Al jazeera, MOA and Saker
seem to give a dose of reality at odds with legacy programming
#3 - propaganda depends on brainwashing to hold sway
prefer critical analysis.

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to make you proud of being an American.

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“Until justice rolls down like water and righteousness like a mighty stream.”

@Lookout

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People like you are still living in what we call the reality-based community. You believe that solutions emerge from your judicious study of discernible reality. That's not the way the world really works anymore. We're an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you are studying that reality—judiciously, as you will—we'll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that's how things will sort out. We're history's actors, and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do.

Originating in a 2004 Ron Suskind NYT piece, this quote has been attributed a variety of W’s cabinet and / or advisors. For some reason, none of the suspected originators of the statement have yet to come forward to claim authorship. It stands as a stark and ugly description of intentional deception, and utter contempt for, the electorate of our supposedly free and democratic country by both elected and unelected mavens who roam the DC halls of power. It is as salient today as it was in 2004.

The ‘reality’ being peddled by our politicians and news outlets has very little to do with objective reality; except in the minds of those who swallow it whole, with little or no effort applied to critical thought regarding its veracity.

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Capitalism is the extraordinary belief that the nastiest of men for the nastiest of motives will somehow work for the benefit of all."
- John Maynard Keynes

@ovals49 that was Karl Rove

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@Battle of Blair Mountain
However, Suskind never made that attribution publicly, perhaps because he had agreed beforehand not to. Unless someone else present at that gathering comes forward to name Rove as the source some doubt (and plausible deniability) will remain.

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Capitalism is the extraordinary belief that the nastiest of men for the nastiest of motives will somehow work for the benefit of all."
- John Maynard Keynes

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U.S. Goes in for the Long-Haul With Latest Ukraine War Aid

Okay so if it's such a slam dunk, why the long haul?

Oh I know this one! They're not trying to win. This is all a scam.

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"The war on Gaza, backed by the West, is a demonstration that the West is willing to cross all lines. That it will discard any nuance of humanity. That it is willing to commit genocide" -- Moon of Alabama

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@Cassiodorus
the opportunity to "de-nazify and demilitarize" Ukraine and annex more land. I believe the Russian goal is to not only take the east but also the south adjoining the Black Sea. Too many Russian troops have paid the ultimate price.

Putin had (finally) realized that the US backed (and controlled) Ukrainian government is "agreement incapable". He was left with no other choice but to militarily support the Russians in Ukraine who were pleading for his help to prevent their cultural and ethnic genocide. History has shown (and subsequently proved) taking advantage of this wedge issue was long planned by the neocons in Washington as a way to attack (and dismember) Russia. The US doesn't give a damn about Ukraine or its people. They are simply a means to an end - literally cannon fodder.

Understanding the Other Ukraine: Identity and Allegiance in Russophone Ukraine
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Figure 1: Simplified historical map of Ukrainian borders: 1654-2014

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Figure 2: Historical borders overlaid on 1994 Presidential results.


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According to the Copenhagen School, the most profound security challenge that nations face today involves not sovereignty, but identity – specifically, the identity of the cultural subgroups that make up a society and whose cohesion and loyalty are essential for society’s (and the state’s) survival. State security could thus be significantly enhanced by satisfying, rather than suppressing, the cultural demands of minorities (Petro, 2009).

The fact that the Russian-speaking minority within Ukraine has a powerful external patron only makes this solution more attractive. Putin’s only two demands for Ukraine, stated in his interview of 4 March 2014, are: (1) that the population in the East and the South be safe, and (2) that they be part of the political process (Petro, 2014).

By embracing the Russian language and culture as legitimate aspects of Ukrainian identity, Ukraine could thus allay Russia’s concerns, while at the same time neutralising its popular support within the Other Ukraine. This would also have the salutary effect of shifting the discourse of Ukrainian patriotism away from its current obsession with “our language” and “our identity,” toward the inclusive civic patriotism that is more common in western Europe and the United States.

Acknowledging the obvious reality that Ukraine is, at its heart, bilingual and bicultural, might finally allow Ukrainians to deal with domestic issues in ways that build loyalty to the state, rather than further divide the Ukrainian nation.

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@CB @CB that there is something actually at stake in all this. There isn't. Both Russia and Ukraine are ruled by highly "corrupt" entities which are themselves products of a "post-Soviet" political economy. In short, kleptocratic oligarchy A has invaded the declared turf of kleptocratic oligarchy B. The historical basis for the invasion means little beside the fact that everyone gets a kleptocratic oligarchy. That having been said, war is bad, and the worst of the bunch are those who want to perpetuate war indefinitely.

To wit: in the Soviet era, most "property" was "public," except the "public" was not constituted as any sort of ruling class. Rather, in Soviet reality there was a ruling class that the Yugoslav thinker Milovan Djilas called "the new class," in Russian, the apparat.

The post-Soviet "property" reality, on the other hand, is determined by international banking entities like the IMF and the World Bank, and so the required gestures for all who want to participate are "privatization" and "free trade." Under such newly-imposed rules, for the ruling classes of the Ukraine and elsewhere the reality of "property" became a free-for-all, to be "won" through whatever means could be found to steal whatever could be stolen. Ukraine is a test-case for Proudhon's maxim: property is theft: see Yuliya Yurchenko's book on post-Soviet Ukraine. I have no reason to believe that such a reality does not obtain now. The weapons sent over there will be sold on the international black market, either now or later. There are no longer people in power, over there or here, who are not neoliberals -- maybe such people still exist, fighting against long odds, in Latin America, but that's another issue.

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"The war on Gaza, backed by the West, is a demonstration that the West is willing to cross all lines. That it will discard any nuance of humanity. That it is willing to commit genocide" -- Moon of Alabama

@Cassiodorus

of military industrial plunder, a siphoning of resources, a vampire bat dug into our throats.

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@Cassiodorus

It’s more money laundering for the military-congressional-media-lots more-industrial complex just like Assange told us about why it took 20 years for us to admit that the Taliban was handing our ass to us.
Weird how a group with no Air Force could beat one with the most powerful one on the planet and yet they did.

Now Russia has air dominance over Ukraine but we think that if we send Ukraine enough weather they can push Russia out of Ukraine? Please… but what Russia is seeing is many countries depleting their weapons and having to beggar their country to make new ones. Meanwhile they are wreaking havoc on their own citizens. Energy bills are going up into the thousands and who can afford to pay for it?

I’m pissed that it cost me $80 to fill up my car yesterday! Meanwhile oil companies are still getting subsidies and tax breaks? Grumble!

OT but did y’all hear that California isn’t going to sell gas powered cars after 2035? Yeah California that has rolling energy blackouts and has to buy energy from other states wants people to buy electric cars and plug them into an inadequate energy grid.

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Which AIPAC/MIC/pharma/bank bought politician are you going to vote for? Don’t be surprised when nothing changes.

Keep on Haulin'!

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The Military-Industrial-Complex's Big Break in Ukraine

Bradley Devlin - August 26, 2022

... Opting for an aid package that falls outside of the Presidential Drawdown Authority by going straight to contractors rather than relying on the U.S. military’s current stockpiles “will allow Ukraine to acquire air defense systems, artillery systems and munitions, counter-unmanned aerial systems, and radars to ensure it can continue to defend itself over the long term," Biden said.

The president’s words were a sweet sound to the military-industrial complex that profits off of the idea that the United States can rid the world of all injustice given enough bombs and bullets. Last year, defense contractors shed a tear when America’s war in Afghanistan came to a close. They collected up to half of the Pentagon’s $14 trillion in spending over the U.S. military’s two-decade venture in Afghanistan. But just after one protracted conflict came to a close, another came to the complex's rescue. Though there is little national interest for the U.S. in Ukraine, and everything to lose given Russia is a nuclear-armed power, Biden has vowed that the U.S. will be alongside Ukraine for the long haul...

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