Tuesday Open Thread ~ The Monkey Mind


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Buddha described the human mind as being filled with drunken monkeys, jumping around, screeching, chattering, carrying on endlessly.
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Good Morning,

Welcome to Tuesday’s Open Thread. As we navigate through these unsettling times, it's helpful to recognize the signs of mounting stress and ways to relieve it. Whether that's working in the garden and letting the sun shine on your face, finding a relaxing spot to meditate, or staying in bed with a cup of chai latte and watching your favorite movies until noon, we need to self-care now more than ever. The monkey mind is at full throttle these days conjuring up scenarios that are too terrible to contemplate. I have a lot of friends in New York who are very anxious right now. Anxious about their health. Anxious about their families. Anxious about their finances. In the coming weeks, we will need to summon up courage and compassion for what's ahead. So, please take care of yourselves, find the delight in things, and try to quiet the monkeys.


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When I was a boy and I would see scary things in the news, my mother would say to me, 'Look for the helpers. You will always find people who are helping.' To this day, especially in times of 'disaster,' I remember my mother’s words and I am always comforted by realizing that there are still so many helpers—so many caring people in this world." ~ Fred Rogers

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Well, that about wraps things up for this week's edition.
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What’s on your monkey mind today?
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PriceRip's picture

          I wonder why the DNC hasn't picked up on this?

          Silly me, never mind, what was I thinking …

          I am sure this will be dealt with in a timely manner. Yep!

RIP

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"I know you believe you understand what you think I said, but I am not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant."
Robert J. McCloskey, U.S. State Department spokesman. From a press briefing during the Vietnam war.

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@PriceRip

But then there are so many of us these days who take that idea to its literal conclusion.

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There is always Music amongst the trees in the Garden, but our hearts must be very quiet to hear it. ~ Minnie Aumonier

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New Mexico is now on a shelter in place order. Mr. RA and I went and got more chickens yesterday. I now have to stay in until April 10. Of course I can go to the store, etc., but I want to stay home. I don't want to get this virus. So far, my county is virus free, but the county next to me, which has our largest population, has the most cases. I need to stay away from there.

I'm in that group that the Lt. Gov. of Texas wants to sacrifice for my grandchildren. I don't think my grandchildren would trade me for the stock market. I'll ask my granddaughter today. She's coming over to help me clean house - do windows! I'll let you know if I'll end up being a sacrificial lamb for her and her brother.

Stay safe and well, everyone. Protect yourselves. Live in the present moment. Pleasantry

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“The trouble [with injustice] is that once you see it, you can’t unsee it. And once you’ve seen it, keeping quiet, saying nothing, becomes as political an act as speaking out. There is no innocence. Either way, you’re accountable.”
-- Arundhati Roy

@Raggedy Ann and encountered the Texas governor, I would be afraid for my life.

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@Snode
Help

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“The trouble [with injustice] is that once you see it, you can’t unsee it. And once you’ve seen it, keeping quiet, saying nothing, becomes as political an act as speaking out. There is no innocence. Either way, you’re accountable.”
-- Arundhati Roy

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@Snode

took me a minute to get you. Smile

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Actually, the issue at stake is patriotism. You must return to your world and put an end to the Commies. All it takes are a few good men.
--Q

Exit polls not involving George W. Bush or Hillary Clinton tend to be quite accurate.
--Doug Hatlem

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@Raggedy Ann

Chose door number one to save your grandparents. Or door number two to save shareholders dividends. You can't have both.

Lemme know which door your grandkids pick.

Frightening times to be living in, eh?

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There is always Music amongst the trees in the Garden, but our hearts must be very quiet to hear it. ~ Minnie Aumonier

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@Anja Geitz

But saving shareholders' dividends would have to look different than the people on the boards of those companies would like.

Remember we have a 720 billion dollar a year military budget, and that's not including whatever dark money the Pentagon, CIA, etc. are bringing in.

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Actually, the issue at stake is patriotism. You must return to your world and put an end to the Commies. All it takes are a few good men.
--Q

Exit polls not involving George W. Bush or Hillary Clinton tend to be quite accurate.
--Doug Hatlem

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@Cant Stop the Macedonian Signal

We're not supposed to know that. We need to make a choice between the parameters set for us. Don't you know how to follow the rules?

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There is always Music amongst the trees in the Garden, but our hearts must be very quiet to hear it. ~ Minnie Aumonier

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@Anja Geitz

I always failed the "follows directions" portions of those achievement tests they used to give us in the 70s.

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Actually, the issue at stake is patriotism. You must return to your world and put an end to the Commies. All it takes are a few good men.
--Q

Exit polls not involving George W. Bush or Hillary Clinton tend to be quite accurate.
--Doug Hatlem

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@Anja Geitz I do not believe that lifting stay at home restrictions and telling people to go back to work would fix the economy. It was crashing before this happened. I don't know why people saying that are so sure they won't be one of the people getting a severe case of the virus. They are not thinking.

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@Raggedy Ann

to do that. It was called the attack on Social Security.

Most people's children and grandchildren said "Nah."

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Actually, the issue at stake is patriotism. You must return to your world and put an end to the Commies. All it takes are a few good men.
--Q

Exit polls not involving George W. Bush or Hillary Clinton tend to be quite accurate.
--Doug Hatlem

Raggedy Ann's picture

So, instead, let's have a song in tribute to our situation.

Pleasantry

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“The trouble [with injustice] is that once you see it, you can’t unsee it. And once you’ve seen it, keeping quiet, saying nothing, becomes as political an act as speaking out. There is no innocence. Either way, you’re accountable.”
-- Arundhati Roy

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@Raggedy Ann

Glad to hear you're safe and sound at home. Hopefully with a sufficient amount of toilet paper. Thanks for the double post!

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There is always Music amongst the trees in the Garden, but our hearts must be very quiet to hear it. ~ Minnie Aumonier

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'Toddler Oven Time' made my day.

Keep well

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@janis b

I've watched that video several times over the last few days, and it still has the power to tickle my soul. I love that his Mom just let him do it the way he wanted to. Those heart sprinkles he dumped on his own birthday cake? Priceless. As were his commentary when he remembered he was on camera, "Hellllo". Required viewing in my mind, for all of us Smile

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There is always Music amongst the trees in the Garden, but our hearts must be very quiet to hear it. ~ Minnie Aumonier

I really needed this.

I made the mistake of checking out a certain place to see what the true believers are up to. Many jumping monkeys, and a few rabid chipmunks. No Biden criticism allowed, total, unwavering allegiance to the party and it's leaders. Stupid grade school insults about the orange cheeto.

My own take is Trump will refuse to debate Biden, or unleash an unprecedented attack on him that will make any future debates impossible. The general election the dems will run to the center, they always do, inspiring no one. True believers will continue to shut down any criticism.

We need to make our vote count. Maybe weaponizing it. Most of all let the dems know that yeah, we'll abstain or write in, even if it means Trumps reelection, if you continue to ignore the ones who need you the most. Maybe this is our never let a crisis go to waste moment.

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@Snode

That the sycophants over at the Orange insane asylum are quashing any critical thinking about their pathetic nominee. Good ole Joe sure was confidence inspiring, wasn't he? Yeah, that's the person we need to stop Trump . That'll work.

Glad you stopped by. Stay safe out there.

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There is always Music amongst the trees in the Garden, but our hearts must be very quiet to hear it. ~ Minnie Aumonier

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DemocracyNow had a great interview with Jeffrey Sachs this morning. They hadn't posted it when I last looked, but he pulls no punches.

https://www.democracynow.org/

Although the CDC and Congress have done a bad job as well, the response of the Trump amounts to negligent homicide.

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@Roy Blakeley

just when you thought these bastards had already done their worst, they out do themselves yet again.

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There is always Music amongst the trees in the Garden, but our hearts must be very quiet to hear it. ~ Minnie Aumonier

smiley7's picture

this clip makes the morning lighter.

A roaring steam inside wishes to blow up: one valve directed at the one percent and their political minions, another valve routed to power humans; be at peace.

Not sure which will dominate this day.

Please be safe.

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@smiley7

don't forget to check your seals

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May we be united and strong -- laurel

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@QMS

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@QMS

Wants to be loved Smile

Thanks for the soul candy, QMS

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There is always Music amongst the trees in the Garden, but our hearts must be very quiet to hear it. ~ Minnie Aumonier

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@smiley7

So pure and sweet, I think I'll have to watch it again.

If you haven't already, I suggest you watch the video I posted of the little boy baking his own birthday cake. You'll never look at decorating a cake the same way again. But you'll be grinning ear to ear while you're watching it.

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There is always Music amongst the trees in the Garden, but our hearts must be very quiet to hear it. ~ Minnie Aumonier

Use the tune for "Home on the Range":

O give me a home
Where the COVID don't roam
And the folks they can wander outdoors
Where a sneeze is okay
People won't run away
And there's toiler paper in the stores

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@MinuteMan

Now for the second chorus...:)

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There is always Music amongst the trees in the Garden, but our hearts must be very quiet to hear it. ~ Minnie Aumonier

Unless it impacts the Dow Jones Industrial Average, then the GOP message to seniors is to take one for the good of the greedy owners: it's the least---and last---thing you can do.

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@MinuteMan

Sacrificing ourselves for the sake of $5,000 waste paper baskets for Wall Street Execs.

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There is always Music amongst the trees in the Garden, but our hearts must be very quiet to hear it. ~ Minnie Aumonier

I got calls from my clients, a cop, an emergency situation that requires me filing "something" without a staff to assist, and getting to "court", which has suspended dockets...and the only thing I could do is talk the cop into walking away from this for a couple of weeks.
Court orders demand the child be returned to a parent. Meanwhile, the child made an outcry to multiple individuals that parent was molesting her. Child Protective Services is in a current log jam, and Dad could be subject to jail by contempt, or imprisoned for exposing his child to harm if he had a good faith belief such harm existed.
There is no way to actually advise my client what to do, only understand the legal consequences of his decision, and follow his conscience.
That was a helluva start to my shelter in place.
The cop left the kid with my client.

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@on the cusp

wonder if you are following this battle...

supporters@lcfor911.org

http://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001LI3im76z_fU-PE1VV11g6oyXcbYpCh4ROJ2Rx-wLM...

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May we be united and strong -- laurel

@QMS I worry about the statute of limitations tolling, killing all lawsuits stemming from the inaction so long ago.
If my business doesn't survive the coming economic downturn, I might just hitch hike up there, pitch in.

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@on the cusp

Have a friend living in New York who is the Executive Director of a trade organization that promotes educational and networking seminars. All of that is on hold. Talked to her the other day and she's not sure which is worse. Wondering about your livelihood, or your life. Helluva choice.

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There is always Music amongst the trees in the Garden, but our hearts must be very quiet to hear it. ~ Minnie Aumonier

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@on the cusp

So many hardships. So much, that can't, will be put on hold. And until when? I guess that depends on who you ask. If it's the Lieutenant Gov of your State, long enough to get grannies will in order before they push her off a cliff. Hard to wrap my head around the soul rotting greed of so many of our fellow human beings. It's really depressing.

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There is always Music amongst the trees in the Garden, but our hearts must be very quiet to hear it. ~ Minnie Aumonier

@Anja Geitz being cruel and shitty, doesn't it?
Lt. Gov Patrick groomed himself for high office by being a sportscaster on a local Houston TV channel.
FWIW, the way our state Constitution is written, the Governor is a figurehead, the Lt. Governor has the real power.
See how shitty it is now?

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@on the cusp

Kinda has a ring to it, eh?

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There is always Music amongst the trees in the Garden, but our hearts must be very quiet to hear it. ~ Minnie Aumonier

@Anja Geitz

political expediency would
make it last thru November 7th

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May we be united and strong -- laurel

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@QMS

They don't need many of us going to the polls. Just a way to cash in on the burgeoning mortuary services this country will be needing.

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There is always Music amongst the trees in the Garden, but our hearts must be very quiet to hear it. ~ Minnie Aumonier

"crowdfight" website

Motivation: Most current plans to fight COVID-19 rely on the assumption that treatments and/or vaccines will be available in a few months. Delays in these treatments will have enormous consequences, both in terms of economic impact and human lives.

Aim: Put the wider scientific community at the service of COVID-19 research.

Context: There is now a huge pool of highly skilled scientists, willing to volunteer their time and expertise for this cause. This goes from virologists who don't have the resources to get directly involved with COVID-19 to researchers in other disciplines (bioinformatics, image analysis, AI…). This is a huge resource, the "bottleneck" being coordination.

Our proposal: This is a service for COVID-19 researchers. They only need to state a wish or a task, which can go from a simple time-intensive task to be performed (e.g. transcribe data, manually annotate images), to answering a technical question which is beyond their expertise, or to setting up a collaboration. They only need to explain their request in a few lines. Then, another scientist makes the effort of understanding that request and making it reality.

Of course, everything is for free. This platform works thanks to scientists who donate their time and skill in these times of emergency.

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The earth is a multibillion-year-old sphere.
The Nazis killed millions of Jews.
On 9/11/01 a Boeing 757 (AA77) flew into the Pentagon.
AGCC is happening.
If you cannot accept these facts, I cannot fake an interest in any of your opinions.

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@UntimelyRippd

Sounds to me like the Science community isn't waiting for the government to figure out the logistics of getting something like this together and decided to do it on their own.

The response meets the crisis, no?

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There is always Music amongst the trees in the Garden, but our hearts must be very quiet to hear it. ~ Minnie Aumonier

@Anja Geitz

Of course, everything is for free. This platform works thanks to scientists who donate their time and skill in these times of emergency.

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The earth is a multibillion-year-old sphere.
The Nazis killed millions of Jews.
On 9/11/01 a Boeing 757 (AA77) flew into the Pentagon.
AGCC is happening.
If you cannot accept these facts, I cannot fake an interest in any of your opinions.

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@UntimelyRippd

I don't think it means what you think it means.

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There is always Music amongst the trees in the Garden, but our hearts must be very quiet to hear it. ~ Minnie Aumonier

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@UntimelyRippd @UntimelyRippd

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enhydra lutris's picture

mind. Smile It took ages o get through all that but it was well worth it, the hand puppet versus autos clip actually made me laugh out loud, my wife too. Bizarre day lining up today with continuing sporadic rain and grey skies not helping, but at least it isn't my week to cook and it's also her turn to make bread. Whoopee.

have a good one.

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That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --

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@enhydra lutris

But you should've seen how many bookmarked tweets I started out with! Busy week in the news, eh?

Cooking anything today? I've got the makings for chicken cacciatore. Haven't made that dish in ages but I got a hold of some beautiful tomatoes and thought, why not? What grape do you think would go well with that?

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There is always Music amongst the trees in the Garden, but our hearts must be very quiet to hear it. ~ Minnie Aumonier

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@Anja Geitz
go to wines are moderately high acid reds (even for alfredo and carbonara) sangiovese/chianti, barbera, aglianico, and stuff like that. My only cooking this week will be my breakfasts and lunches. For b-fast I just had polenta with chopped shrooms, chopped greens and chopped spinach chard stalks stirred in while it was cooking. I do it in the nuker with two mid-cooking stirrings, and stir the shrooms and greens in during the second one so they cook down.

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That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --

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@enhydra lutris

How perfect! Thanks Smile

I need to do more with polenta. It's much more versatile than I give it credit for. Sounds delish Smile

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There is always Music amongst the trees in the Garden, but our hearts must be very quiet to hear it. ~ Minnie Aumonier

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Jonathon Pie is on Lockdown...but he's keeping his job...7 min

I just ran the virus gauntlet to the grocery and was I shocked at the empty shelves. Sure am glad the garden is coming on. Food may become a serious issue this summer if COVID continues (as I suspect).

Saw in the news some stores are putting stripes 6 foot apart leading to the cash register. Hope y'all are wearing gloves and masks. Chris at peak prosperity emphasized the importance of masks yesterday. (last 10 min or so)

Y'all take care!

PS a doctor friend sent me this today -

Practical recommendations for prevention of COVID-19

The following recommendations have been devised as simple, in-home measures which have been gleaned from various sources and which are all based on the knowledge from the CDC and the Chinese autopsy experience so far as to the method by which the COVID-19 virus actually kills us – from the build-up of thicker and thicker mucus in the lungs to the point at which we simply can't breathe. The other main points are to try and avoid getting the virus in the first place, and to boost your immune system as much as possible.

1. Drink hot/warm liquids several times a day – coffee, tea, soups, water; if drinking cold liquids, follow with something warm soon after; if sick, drink warm liquid every 20 minutes; instead of waiting for the water in your spigot to warm up, heat water on a stove in a teakettle to boiling and use a cup

2. Gargle and swallow a couple mouthfuls of warm water with vinegar, salt or lemon once daily

3. When coming into your home from contact outside, as in a store, (not just a walk around the block), don't sit down but proceed to your bathroom, strip down and shower or bathe, with a shampoo; wash the clothes that day

4. Try not to touch metallic surfaces outside of the home; IN your home you can wipe down your own door-handles, frequently-used drawer handles weekly; include your own cell/smartphone daily; when you return from shopping, wipe down the steering-wheel of the car and the door-handle you used to enter the house; if desired, you can leave a separate pair of shoes outdoors to use outside of the home; simple rubbing alcohol >60% is adequate; to avoid inundating our landfills, use a small cloth and then wash the cloth

5. Don't smoke

6. Wash hands and face for 20 seconds every 20 minutes if you are sick; but if in your own home and no one is sick, wash in this manner a few times a day; remember, we need the beneficial bacteria which populate our skin all the time so we would recommend using regular soap, not the “antibacterial” products out there; for the same reason, it is a good idea to limit the use of the hand sanitizers to as little as absolutely possible

7. Eat plenty of fresh fruits and vegetables and try to increase your intake levels of zinc (25-50 mgs per day) and Vitamin C (1000-3000 mgs per day); you can calculate the amounts you're getting in your food or obtain simple supplements for these

8. Animals do not spread the virus

9. If you feel a sore throat occurring, or lose your sense of smell or taste, attack this immediately by increasing the frequency of gargling as above, and the amount of hot fluids as noted, to try and keep the virus in your throat from migrating into the lungs, and to keep the mucus as thin as possible

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“Until justice rolls down like water and righteousness like a mighty stream.”

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@Lookout

We now only allow a certain amount of people in the store at the same time. Are only using every other register to keep from crowding. We have crew members assigned at the front door with sanitizer wipes, and another whose job it is to wipe down all the registers and counters with sanitizer every 20 minutes. We are also allowed to wear gloves at work now if we choose to. Additional tables and benches for breaks and lunches were purchased by management and placed outside by a lovely grassy area on the street side of the store to avoid overcrowding in our break room. Also, while we are not getting hazard pay, it was announced Friday that we will be getting bonuses reflecting a percentage of the profits Trader Joe's has made in the last month.

As for other pre-cautionary measures, I am doing everything you listed but the gargling. Will begin that as well today. I've been under enormous stress these last two weeks, worrying about my Sister, worrying about my friends in NYC, and letting my monkey mind go to terrible places. The anxiety has been so bad that there's a tightness in my chest whenever I begin to worry. Yesterday, though, after talking to one of the mates at the store, I decided that what my health and my immunity really needed right now was a switching of the train tracks in my thinking. I mean, I don't know for certain how any of this will play out for me, my family, or my friends. 50/50 Chance it could go either way. So rather than focus on the worst possible outcomes, and compromise my health with the added stress in doing so, I decided to re-focus my energies on the best possible outcome. As soon as I started to do that, the tightness in my chest disappeared.

Thanks for all the information. Glad you enjoyed the Tweets.

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There is always Music amongst the trees in the Garden, but our hearts must be very quiet to hear it. ~ Minnie Aumonier

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@Lookout
gargoyle, firing up ye olde (really, really olde) neti pot serpently wouldn't hurt.

have a good one.

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That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --

Cant Stop the Macedonian Signal's picture

The county has placed us on lockdown. The *county*. Not the state, not the feds.

Local government, ladies and gentlemen--generally the best government most of us have left.

Our county has the highest number of infections (new cases) in the state. I am, however, not too worried about this, since we also have the highest number of tests done in the state.

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Actually, the issue at stake is patriotism. You must return to your world and put an end to the Commies. All it takes are a few good men.
--Q

Exit polls not involving George W. Bush or Hillary Clinton tend to be quite accurate.
--Doug Hatlem

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@Cant Stop the Macedonian Signal

Yes, local government at work. Thank god. Will PM you to see how your day is looking.

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There is always Music amongst the trees in the Garden, but our hearts must be very quiet to hear it. ~ Minnie Aumonier

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@Anja Geitz

Schools closed through June, nonessential businesses shut down, public gatherings of more than 10 people banned, etc. https://www.governor.virginia.gov/newsroom/all-releases/2020/march/headl...

Even the local library is closed to the public for who knows how long (library director's decision). Staff is still being paid - for now - but running barebones (only essential personnel to come in and work).

Shenandoah Apple Blossom Festival is postponed indefinitely - we will probably soon hear that it's been canceled.

There's something to be said for having an MD as governor, I guess.

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There is no justice. There can be no peace.

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@TheOtherMaven

That sounds lovely. Do they sell apple pies? I just love a good pie.

Glad to hear your governor is acting responsibly. Curses and epithets to the governors of states who are not doing so.

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There is always Music amongst the trees in the Garden, but our hearts must be very quiet to hear it. ~ Minnie Aumonier

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@Cant Stop the Macedonian Signal

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That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --

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@enhydra lutris

It's unusual to feel comfortable with the person in authority over me, for a change. Bob Hutchinson is basically trustworthy.

I hate to put in a good word for Ron De Santis, who I bet probably got his job via election fraud, but he hasn't been all that bad--except that he hasn't put the state on lockdown, which I think is pretty bad. Although he says the reason he doesn't want to do it is that putting a place on lockdown means that people flee that place in large numbers (as in both Italy and New York).

I'm just so, so glad that the last crazy bastard left Tallahassee for D.C. before all this happened. Rick "Everybody Should Evacuate" Scott.

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Actually, the issue at stake is patriotism. You must return to your world and put an end to the Commies. All it takes are a few good men.
--Q

Exit polls not involving George W. Bush or Hillary Clinton tend to be quite accurate.
--Doug Hatlem