Trump's Ban on Refugees/Immigrants Is Suspended
Submitted by MarilynW on Sun, 01/29/2017 - 12:09am
NYT developing
A federal judge in Brooklyn issued an emergency stay of part of President Trump’s executive order on immigration, ruling that sending refugees and others back would cause “irreparable harm.”
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/28/us/refugees-detained-at-us-airports-p...
I can only add, that I'm quite happy about this. It involves only a few who are stuck at airports, 100 - 200. I think we can thank the protestors at the airports for stirring this up. But there was a worldwide outcry over it as well. I was crying as I scrolled down the twitter feed on this, all those people with no where to go. That heartless monster did this.
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As a brooklyn born
granddaughter of immigrants, I am happy. As a human being, I am even happier. Thank you for this post Marilyn.
And thank you to the judge and all who stood up for what is just.
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Sorry for the abrupt ending to a great, live Marley performance
Thanks Janis, Trump's mother was an immigrant
The ruling just effects a small number of people but it's a good step in the right direction. Combined with the protests at the airports it puts the monster in the WH on notice that he can't have exactly everything he wants. Too bad the courts don't nullify the ban entirely since it is unconstitutional !
To thine own self be true.
well, that's a Trump deal - ending in bankruptcy
Google ruft Mitarbeiter aus dem Ausland zurück (Google calls back its employees from overseas)
Freely googly translated from a German link:
popcorn ... "The Battle among the Billionaires" - part 1. Watch out for sequels.
https://www.euronews.com/live
but just listen to this criminally twisted mind
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I mean could the mainstream media get more disgusting?
https://www.euronews.com/live
OMG, Catch and Release?
Guliani is a hack.
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Detention Centers! omg no
he is signaling the prison industrial complex, lobbyists start your bribes! ~vroom vroom~ That is what Breitbart brings to the communication game, he's pretty pretty good using the media for free, evil fascist bastard.
Expect George Takei (Manzanar) in 3, 2, 1. Hope this can be stopped immediately, because concentration camps come next. To "make them pay" or some other best words.
Peace
Edited to add: our very own prison camps since 1915! That video made me go awww, the French guy was very very touched in his heart. I remember 1978 staying at a "Con Camp" to fight fire in Humboldt. Us five CCC women had to sleep inside a circle of men for "protection" lol. Then next day we'd be right there working mop up next to those convicts. Conservation is such a way better word, compared to convict. Those guys were happy to be outside, I was too. Love mother nature.
Has Rudy Giuliani Got Dementia?
His clutch certainly seems to be slipping, chattering, and even smoking a bit...
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FoundationMoney Laundry...I'm the only person standing between Richard Nixon and the White House."
~John F. Kennedy~
Economic: -9.13, Social: -7.28,
@mimi
They're admitting, live on TV, (and, in one case, in a cartoon voice) that they aren't capable of understanding the difference between people with Green cards, tourists, contract workers, refugees, etc. and people convicted of violent crimes? And that they're too stupid to see how stupid this tactic looks?
Of course they are...
Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.
Tiny Hands, Small Minds, Big Implications...
We're going to see a lot of "Oops Patchwork Solutions" to the problems associated with implementing the thousands of rambling "Tweets" Trump made in his "Campaign Tweets" at rallies...
The "Rambling 140 Character Tweets" that comprised his characteristic campaign speeches while they excited the unwashed hoards of deplorable Trump supporters, they lacked the depth of thought required to realize whether they were even possible to implement or the ramifications of implementing them...
As the Republican Cray Cray, both elected in the House & Senate, along with the unelected such as lobbyists, administration staffers, and Paul Ryan, run through the halls of the west wing with reams of paper with the executive
ordersmemorandums for Boss Trump to sign, we are headed for years of small glitches that will be associated with their wet dream...Now if you'll excuse me I've got to prepare the bid for building the new interstate highway, and towns, that we need to build along our southern border to allow the transport of materials to build the wall, housing and other infrastructure for the construction workers, through the vast no mans land where there isn't an existing wall because no one crosses there...
There is plenty of gold to be made in this New Trumped Up Economy, and it's not just for Lawyers & Bankers, along with the MIC, like another Clinton Administration would have been...
I'm the only person standing between Richard Nixon and the White House."
~John F. Kennedy~
Economic: -9.13, Social: -7.28,
I'm not
getting why the EO would apply to US employees abroad.
What am I missing?
I guess everyone is in such a lather, they didn't want to wait for the details to be worked out via the regulation making process.
dfarrah
I have no clue. But big multinationals
are calling workers home.
This is NOT GOOD.
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I think it depends on their country of origin
The employees could be valid citizens but the WH is issuing "suggestions" that border officials have authority to stop anyone from those countries "who look suspicious." They have given those officials wide scope to stop citizens who were born in Syria etc.
To thine own self be true.
"the regulation making process" Okay which two get it next?
thanks for thoughtful discourse. To me Trump's "regulation making process" is an unfunny joke. It is silly propaganda for mass consumption while favors get handed to the same old revolving merde on top. Different stink, still stinks. Don't look while they blow up the budget and steal the treasury. Squirrels! Oh yeah that's my avatar about eighteen feet up lounging on a foot peg.
Peace
Am I to believe that
these guys care about humanitarian issues? Gosh, is Apple going to speak up next?
Mark Zuckerberg, Brian Chesky, Airbnb's chief executive, and Twitter boss Jack Dorsey. The "humanitarian and economic impact of the decree is very real and perplexing," Dorsey wrote in a Twitter message.
dfarrah
humanitarian apple
http://www.chinalaborwatch.org/reports/brand/2 does not make Apple look human to me. Workers of the world unite! Oh wait that was then this is now. Now. and now. Now. lol see how that "no looking back" thing works? Pretty pretty good.
Peace
EOs are typically
broad statements. They are implemented by regulations that provide details and exemptions.
In this case, there are obvious exceptions that need to be spelled out, and as I understand it, there are already exceptions being allowed.
dfarrah
Maybe Trump should have waited to implement it then
until these regulations and exemptions were figured out and explained, instead of putting it into effect instantaneously, while people who had followed procedures and held valid documents to enter the country were literally in the air on airplanes, only to be detained immediately upon arrival. After causing panic and confusion, now they are scrambling to make exceptions on a case-by-case basis, and nobody knows what will happen or how far this will go. Whose fault is that? Trump's. Most people do not have your level of blind faith in His Benevolence, for good reason.
I really don't know who
caused the panic or mucked up operations.
After all, BO and other presidents have issued similar bans, without the same accompanying hysteria.
IMO, the dems are pulling out all stops, using their business and media buddies, simply to embarrass Trump, just like they went after Bernie.
And I think there is more than enough 'clear and convincing evidence' (using the legal standard here) that many people are determined to shriek about every step Trump takes, regardless of what it is and its value.
There is no rational reason why dem officials are screeching, when they previously had so much to screech about, and didn't.
Suddenly, they care about refugees when we've been killing people for years? Was the killing all worthwhile, like Albright asserted, and not worth any political action? But now a few refugees (relatively) trying to enter the US are denied and that is cause for country-wide protests. What a bunch of truly contemptuous people.
So go ahead and keep screeching; it will likely backfire against the screechers just like it did in the primary, and the screeching clearly didn't work in states critical for electoral votes for HRC.
dfarrah
Link please?
When exactly were people ever detained by the Obama administration at airports after having their paperwork revoked in mid-air? When was it that he banned all travel from 7 countries?
And if Obama had ever done anything like that, I'll bet my dog -- my favorite one even -- that you wouldn't be saying it's cool and making excuses for him. Would you?
You call everyone who is upset about trump's obvious racism and warmongering a hypocrite, but would you be making all these excuses and writing apologia for Hillary or anyone else if they did exactly what trump is doing?
If you think what trump is doing is just fine and dandy, why would you have a problem with Obama, even if he had done the same thing? Or are you only in favor of such policies when it's Trump? Hum....
@ dfarrah @riverlover - sorry to respond so late
but the way I understand it, it's not dependent on being an employee per se of an US employer, it depends what nationality the employee has. The employee could be hired under a work visa system that allows the foreign national person work for an US employer in a foreign country. That employee could also have dual citizenship, which makes him an American, but with a second nationality of one of those countries of concernt which are targetted now.
Dual citizenship in that case doesn't become advantageous, but a hindrance.
Let's say, if I were an employee of ABC as a German citizen and worked for them from Berlin in Germany, and Germany would be one of the countries of "concern", the TPTB might just be careful, if they would let me into the US under that kind of regulation (especially if they watch me talking on "blogs of concern" /s)
I could have dual German American citizen-ship, which you would think would allow me always to enter
the US, no matter what. But from what I have read or understood (or misunderstood, who knows), I could now nevertheless be "a person of concern" as I have dual nationality with the second nationality being a country of "concern".
What is so ironic about this, is, that the US is a country of immigrants who always encourages its immigrants to become US citizens. Now that they are, without having dropped their original citizenship of their country of birth, it could become a trap so to speak.
So far I don't want to go into "hysterical mode". I think it's the US citizens with dual nationality who are potentially harmed.
https://www.euronews.com/live
Quick fyi....
http://www.wnd.com/2017/01/2011-obama-paused-iraq-refugee-program-for-6-...
Assuming that the article is true, can someone explain why there were no hissy fits back then?
dfarrah
Apparently, much head exploding
over nothing. Do you think Zuckerberg and Google will survive the Trump presidency, or should we have a count down to when their heads explode.
The Latest: Official says ruling will not affect travel ban
http://www.denverpost.com/2017/01/28/the-latest-rouhani-time-to-remove-w...
dfarrah
The ruling just effects people trapped in airports, AFAIK
The ban came into effect while they were in flight.
Trump should be more worried about Americans killing Americans, like in the city of Chicago.
To thine own self be true.
Since the ruling affects the
trapped people, why are Zuckerberg and Google upset?
And Trump already talked about Chicago, and was roundly denounced.
dfarrah
Well...
Zuck doesn't want his sources of cheap foreign labor imperiled?
The ruling classes need an extra party to make the rest of us feel as if we participate in democracy. That's what the Democrats are for. They make the US more durable than the Soviet Union was.
I'm lost about the
issue.
I didn't know the US companies had a lot of US employees in those 7 countries, other than military/diplomatic.
dfarrah
Chicago murders, it's the proliferation of guns
If you think of the factors behind these numbers:
To thine own self be true.