Sunday Open Thread: October 8th is the Feast of San Ernesto among Bolivian campesinos
World History this day
1480 -- A standoff on the Ugra river between Akhmat Khan and Grand Duke Ivan III of Russia. ***
1856 -- The Second Opium War between China and assorted western powers began
1912 -- First Balkan War began
1939 -- Germany annexed western Poland.
1967 -- Che Guevara and his men were captured.
1982 -- Poland banned all trade unions including (especially) Solidarity
*** This lead to the retreat of the Tataro-Mongols from Russia and the eventual collapse of the Great Horde
US History this day
1918 -- USMC 2nd Lieutenant aviator Ralph Talbot earned the Medal of Honor.
1918 -- United States Corporal Alvin C. York earned the Medal of Honor.
1921 -- The first live broadcast of a football game by KDKA in Pittsburgh
1944 -- Captain Bobbie Brown earned the Medal of Honor
1956 -- Don Larsen pitched the only perfect game in a World Series.
1969 -- The beginning of the Days of Rage
1974 -- Franklin National Bank collapsed due to corporatism, crony capitalism, fraud and mismanagement
2001 -- Bush announced the creation of the Heimat Sicherheit Buro Office of Homeland Security.
Science & Technology this day
1978 -- Ken Warby set the world water speed record of 317.60 mph
The Arts this day
1928 -- The first performance of Alfredo Casella's Violin Concerto
1982 -- Cats opened on Broadway
Misc. this day
0451 -- The Council of Chalcedon began, various nonentities defined Jesus and stuff like that.
1582 -- The change to the Gregorian calendar eliminated this day in Italy, Poland, Portugal and Spain.
Birthdays of Note this day
319 BC -- Pyrrhus of Epirus, known for his victories
1789 -- William John Swainson, ornithologist and entomologist
1807 -- Harriet Taylor Mill, philosopher and activist
1847 -- Rose Scott, activist
1848 -- Pierre De Geyter, composer, wrote the music to the Internationale
1872 -- Mary Engle Pennington, bacteriological chemist, refrigeration engineer
1873 -- Ejnar Hertzsprung, chemist and astronomer, co-developed Hertzsprung-Russell Diagram
1883 -- Dick Burnett, singer, songwriter, banjo player, and guitarist
1893 -- Clarence Williams, pianist and composer
1895 -- Juan Peron, general and politician, Evita's hubby
1920 -- Frank Herbert, journalist, writer, photographer
1930 -- Pepper Adams, composer and saxophonist
1930 -- Faith Ringgold, painter and activist
1940 -- Fred Cash, singer (Impressions)
1941 -- George Bellamy, singer, guitarist, and producer (Tornadoes)
1948 -- Johnny Ramone, guitarist and songwriter
1949 -- Hamish Stuart, singer, songwriter, guitarist (AWB)
1950 -- Robert "Kool" Bell, singer, songwriter and bass player
1955 -- Lonnie Pitchford, singer and guitarist
1961 -- Steven Bernstein, trumpet player and composer
1965 -- C. J. Ramone, singer, songwriter and bass player
Deaths of Note this day
1594 -- Ishikawa Goemon, legendary ninja and thief
1754 -- Henry Fielding, novelist and playwright
1793 -- John Hancock, politician,
1963 -- Remedios Varo, para-surrealist painter, anarchist
1992 -- Willy Brandt, politician
2011 -- Roger Williams, pianist
So now some music
Bonus:
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Photo: public domain photo of Ernesto (Che) Guevara
Comments
Hi, EL
Are you doing Sunday open threads now? I love your historical posts. I am zeroing in on 1582, only because I once found the history of the calendar fascinating.
The Gregorian calendar, named after Pope Gregory XIII, did not change in 1582. Rather, the Gregorian calendar was first introduced in October, 1582. It replaced the Julian calendar, named after Julius Caesar. Despite an adjustment by Augustus Caesar, the Julian calendar had gotten more and more out of sync with the spring equinox, which is used to calculate Easter.
Changing from the Julian to the Gregorian calendar required that ten days in October be disappeared. Poof! In 1582, in nations that obeyed the Pope immediately, October 4, 1582 was followed by October 15, 1582. England, for example, wanting nothing to do with Popery, stayed with the Julian calendar for years. Therefore, the colonies that eventually became the USA used the Julian calendar for a time.
Today, the Julian calendar is thirteen days off from the Gregorian calendar. Hence, the Orthodox churches, which still use the Julian calendar, celebrate religious holidays so much later than other Christians.
The most accurate calendar today, aside from the Naval Observatory's master clock (which somehow sneaks in adjustments of seconds and less) is the Iranian calendar. That is a lunar calendar, based on the moon as observed in Teheran. (IIRC, the Naval Observatory is also famous for having been the once "undisclosed location" where Cheney spent time in case Bush 43 died or became unable to function.)
There is so much more to the history of the calendar, but I will leave it there for purposes of this post. I doubt most people would find all of it as absorbing as I once did.
Good moring, Henry. I got drafted to do Sunday also a few weeks
back. It isn't quite the same format as Monday, but similar, so I now get to discover twice as much.
You'll see the calendar again tomorrow, which followed the 4th, as you said. I should have said "change over to" or "switch to". I didn't foresee "change to" being read as "modification to", though I should have. Sorry about that.
The Mayan calendar should still be pretty accurate too. It accounts for some very long and complex astronomical repeats.
That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --
No need to apologize.
Yes, I read your comment as a change having been to the Gregorian calendar itself, rather than a change from a different calendar entirely to the Gregorian calendar. Did you misword or did I misread? Either way, no need to apologize. Your posts are great.
If I ever make a post that is perfect and can be understood only one way, I'll need smelling salts.
The Bolsheviks made the change in Feb. of 1918.
They simply eliminated the 13 days. The October Revolution of 1917 took place on November 7. This year will be the centennial.
We wanted decent healthcare, a living wage and free college.
The Democrats gave us Biden and war instead.
Yep, which permits some of us to celebrate it twice.
I recall doing that when I was at call, a party on the October date and a party on the November date. Twice the fun for us and twice the consternation for the various gummit watchers.
That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --
Yes. Unexplained references to "the October Revolution" can
be confusing. IIRC (and I may not be recalling correctly, my calendar research having ended aboutten years ago) Russia was either the last nation, or among the last very few nations, to go from Julian to Gregorian.
But, lest a reader of this thread get confused: The more time passes, the more "off" from the solar year the Julian calendar becomes. Therefore was was a tolerable variance from the equinoxes during the days of the Caesars became very noticeable and intolerable by the 1500s. Ten days needed to be eliminated from the Julian calendar in 1582. However, as more time passed, the variance from March 21 (ish) on the Julian calendar and the spring equinox increased to thirteen days today.
Nations with national religions that had been the most ticked off at Popes, Anglican (Henry VIII) and Orthodox (Great Schism) held out for a long time. As for the Orthodox Church, some distant future point (should humans last that long), the Orthodox church will either have to change from the Julian calendar or celebrate Easter when the Gregorian calendar says "December 25."
good morning from the deluge
Nate is coming through today. Already had 3.5" and we're forecast to get that much again. It's been a few weeks since we had a significant rain here in NE Alabama. This should be a pond filler and a road washer. I already have my box scrape hooked to the tractor so I can pull the gravel road back up the hill (my version of Sisyphus).
Hope you all have a good one!
“Until justice rolls down like water and righteousness like a mighty stream.”
Good mrning, Lookout, thanks for the report. Stay safe and dry.
Good luck with the driveway, too.
That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --
Morning EL
Remedios Varo...an important woman Mexican painter.
I(and many) find her work 'disturbing'. But, isn't art supposed to challenge and evoke emotion in the viewer?
Here is a short video of some of her works.
As usual...have a great day all.
I want a Pony!
Good morning Arrow, Thanks for the extra stuff on
Remedios Varo. I was unaware of her until I wrote this.
What I want to know is the difference, other than era, and population density, between a beach bum and a beach comber.
Have a good one.
That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --
just wow
love the classical gas? wish it didn't play so fast. evocative images
Zionism is a social disease
Morning, el...
Fielding's "Tom Jones," can't definitively recall reading it, though, i think i did.
Soft rain outside, good baking day with a little motivation, enjoying your music and Arrow's vid is a nice bonus--"A-train" always begs a martini, alas, those were the days.
Thanks, el, and have a good one.
Good morning and thanks, smiley7. Yeah, A Train is like that.
Good baking days are a wonderful thing, though one can get carried away.
That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --
Go here. Laugh.
Now THIS is the branding that the DNC has been looking for. This is slick, professional, and speaks to the younger audience.
Really. I have nothing to add. Just go there
A lot of wanderers in the U.S. political desert recognize that all the duopoly has to offer is a choice of mirages. Come, let us trudge towards empty expanse of sand #1, littered with the bleached bones of Deaniacs and Hope and Changers.
-- lotlizard
Wonderful. Thank you soooo much.
That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --
Good Day, looks everyone is so tired of all the shit
that all they want is shooting themselves the hell out it.
Rocket Fired From Gaza Strikes Southern Israel, IDF Confirms
This is a developing story: No injuries or damages reported - Gili Cohen and Almog Ben Zikri Oct 08, 2017 9:22 PM
https://www.euronews.com/live
Hiya mimi, thanks for the news item and for reading.
That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --
which bribe is more seductive - money or a video clip ?
Just can't make up my mind, if the exposure to a camera - with the hope you get a second of lime lite on the interubes' social media - or a little cash is more attractive to most people.
What do you think?
https://www.euronews.com/live
" To most people" - there's the rub. To me, money, I dislike the
limelight. To the average politico, the limelight, most probably. What personality type predominates, however, is far beyond my ability to guess.
That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --
It's not only in Catalonia - but who cares for those countries
down there in the South where the sun never shines...
Cameroon torn by deadly clashes
Before my deceased former husband from (the francophone part of) Cameroon died, he always said, some day it will all explode North of, in and South of the Sahel zone. May be he was not that far off ...
I post this just because I feel I should do this for him in remembrance and out of respect for what he has experienced in his life.
https://www.euronews.com/live
Resources. Would they rather be Kenya or Nigeria (or the Congo)
Other nations care about them in propoirtion to the extent to which they can be exploited. The care and assistance proferred is usually not such a good thing.
That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --
Somehow Belgium and Belgians are never called to account
for the horrors they created and administered in their one-time colony, what used to be called Congo-Leopoldville when I was in high school.
Yeah, you don't see or hear much about that outside of
Roland the Headless Thompson Gunner.
That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --