The current working assumption appears to be that our Shroedinger's Cat system is still alive. But what if we all suspect it's not, and the real problem is we just can't bring ourselves to open the box?
am slowly turning those behind me and around me, different shades of Orange. Orange is the new White, as in - look out for the new paint job on the White, NO! Orange House!
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The current working assumption appears to be that our Shroedinger's Cat system is still alive. But what if we all suspect it's not, and the real problem is we just can't bring ourselves to open the box?
#11, ... but it's not a caption. The words are on the picture.
I'm looking through the rules to see if we can come up with some sort of exception.
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The current working assumption appears to be that our Shroedinger's Cat system is still alive. But what if we all suspect it's not, and the real problem is we just can't bring ourselves to open the box?
Here is a handy mnemonic: Think of reality as the social construct that allows you to say, "my opinion matters" and Reality is the Real Reality in which you know "my opinion does not matter". Let Reality be the Red pill, and reality be the Blue pill.
Take the Red pill and you see how deep the rabbit hole goes.
Take the Blue pill and you believe what you want to believe.
Here is a handy mnemonic: Think of reality as the social construct that allows you to say, "my opinion matters" and Reality is the Real Reality in which you know "my opinion does not matter". Let Reality be the Red pill, and reality be the Blue pill.
Take the Red pill and you see how deep the rabbit hole goes.
Take the Blue pill and you believe what you want to believe.
"And the ones that Mother gives you don't do anything at all." -- Jefferson Airplane
Here is a handy mnemonic: Think of reality as the social construct that allows you to say, "my opinion matters" and Reality is the Real Reality in which you know "my opinion does not matter". Let Reality be the Red pill, and reality be the Blue pill.
Take the Red pill and you see how deep the rabbit hole goes.
Take the Blue pill and you believe what you want to believe.
RIP
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"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides
Lurking in the wings is Hillary, like some terrifying bat hanging by her feet in a cavern below the DNC. A bat with theropod instincts. -- Fred Reed https://tinyurl.com/vgvuhcl
Trump’s hands on the podium look like the reverse of the eagles wings. I wish he’d fly away to another planet and never return, taking all his followers with him, along with all their killing machines. They can battle it out among themselves, far removed from earth.
While driving I heard an abbreviated part of his speech. I closed the windows so other drivers didn’t have to listen to the mortifying voice of america. A few minutes later on National Radio an aviation specialist spoke. He made the argument that if the videos of the plane explosion and falling parts were accurate, it had to have been targeted or from a bomb on the plane.
Trump’s hands on the podium look like the reverse of the eagles wings. I wish he’d fly away to another planet and never return, taking all his followers with him, along with all their killing machines. They can battle it out among themselves, far removed from earth.
While driving I heard an abbreviated part of his speech. I closed the windows so other drivers didn’t have to listen to the mortifying voice of america. A few minutes later on National Radio an aviation specialist spoke. He made the argument that if the videos of the plane explosion and falling parts were accurate, it had to have been targeted or from a bomb on the plane.
Good luck, world.
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The current working assumption appears to be that our Shroedinger's Cat system is still alive. But what if we all suspect it's not, and the real problem is we just can't bring ourselves to open the box?
What is the umlaut doing over the english word 'reelection' ?
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The current working assumption appears to be that our Shroedinger's Cat system is still alive. But what if we all suspect it's not, and the real problem is we just can't bring ourselves to open the box?
@janis b
, like most specialists on 24 hour news channels, is wrong. It's the same kind of plane as this. One fan blade failed, the engine went out of balance, and the cowling was eaten, large chunks of it hit the fuselage (and then fell to the ground), killing a passenger. Had the fan blade come loose in many other directions, it could have punctured a fuel tank (as happened with a QANTAS Airbus 380), started a massive fire...and more parts would have fallen to the ground. A bomb or a missile could have had similar effects, so...we wait.
Trump’s hands on the podium look like the reverse of the eagles wings. I wish he’d fly away to another planet and never return, taking all his followers with him, along with all their killing machines. They can battle it out among themselves, far removed from earth.
While driving I heard an abbreviated part of his speech. I closed the windows so other drivers didn’t have to listen to the mortifying voice of america. A few minutes later on National Radio an aviation specialist spoke. He made the argument that if the videos of the plane explosion and falling parts were accurate, it had to have been targeted or from a bomb on the plane.
Good luck, world.
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"I’m a human being, first and foremost, and as such I’m for whoever and whatever benefits humanity as a whole.” —Malcolm X
I know you are an aviation expert, so I appreciate your personal perspective.
#13, like most specialists on 24 hour news channels, is wrong. It's the same kind of plane as this. One fan blade failed, the engine went out of balance, and the cowling was eaten, large chunks of it hit the fuselage (and then fell to the ground), killing a passenger. Had the fan blade come loose in many other directions, it could have punctured a fuel tank (as happened with a QANTAS Airbus 380), started a massive fire...and more parts would have fallen to the ground. A bomb or a missile could have had similar effects, so...we wait.
I agree with what you're saying, Bisbonian. In nearly 40 years of aircraft maintenance (mainly turbine helicopters), I've seen some of the damage done when a turbine engine shucks a turbine blade or compressor blade. Fan blades on turbo-fan engines are about the same – just larger.
What happens is a very big mess, very quickly. Quickly, like in less than the blink of an eye. The pieces are spun off from rotating assemblies which are spinning at tens of thousands of RPMs. The hot metal flung from a disintegrating engine can punch through just about anything and often those holes look as though they were cut by lasers. The temperature of all this debris can be anywhere from 500F degrees to well over 1500F. Hot enough to easily light off atomized turbine fuel, which will be blowing all over the place due to severed fuel lines and damaged fuel control accessories mounted to, or near, the engine.
Engines can be violently ripped from their mounts due to sudden and extreme unbalance. Structure is often severely damaged when this occurs. Collateral damage often occurs to unrelated systems such as hydraulics, surface controls, and electrical. While there is redundancy on most systems, sometimes you've only got one of a particular thing. Like a right-hand wing, for instance.
Supposedly this was a rather new aircraft. As a mechanic, that means I trust it less. Gawd only knows what got overlooked at a factory. And just because it says "Boeing" on the data plate means nothing. Parts to aircraft are sourced from all over the globe these days. Even parts of parts could be coming from who-knows-where.
Further, should a fan blade get chucked, as Bisbonian offers, recent maintenance means little. Fan blades are directly exposed to whatever they happen to suck in – birds, rocks, wallets, parts of aircraft on runways, etc. Just a tiny unseen nick can quickly lead to catastrophic failure, especially if that nick is near the root of the blade.
So, yeah, while the timing is suspect, it may be that the time and place had nothing to do with the crash. Or maybe it did. Maybe the pilots were nervous to get going and didn't do quite as through a walk-around as they might have normally done. Possibly they were distracted and missed something; maybe even something obvious. Maybe not.
Maybe a missile went up the exhaust. Maybe not.
Time will tell. Maybe. Since politics and various war-mongers are afoot, we may never know the truth. Right now, all we know is that a bunch of innocent folks are dead.
[Edit: By the way, sorry to derail all the fun. I probably should've posted this in some other thread.]
#13, like most specialists on 24 hour news channels, is wrong. It's the same kind of plane as this. One fan blade failed, the engine went out of balance, and the cowling was eaten, large chunks of it hit the fuselage (and then fell to the ground), killing a passenger. Had the fan blade come loose in many other directions, it could have punctured a fuel tank (as happened with a QANTAS Airbus 380), started a massive fire...and more parts would have fallen to the ground. A bomb or a missile could have had similar effects, so...we wait.
A big bump on takeoff. I thought "Man, that landing gear was rough!". Plane arches over and pilot announces (very calmly) that we are returning to the airport. I lean past my partner (He was sitting in the window seat). I see the pier rushing up as we are skimming just above the water. All the while Ed is saying "I knew it! I knew it!" over and over. "Knew what Ed?" "This is is Friday the 13th and we are sitting in 13 F & G. I knew it!". We did land, very smoothly. The stewardesses were visibly annoyed that everyone kept asking, "Does this mean we get free booze?" I saw the left engine as I departed. A giant hole in it. it looked like about five rows of blades were missing. Officially, we took in a bird. I think that the engine suffered infant mortality and a blade cracked off. The plane was brand new. They flew an empty L-1011 from Chicago to get us just so we wouldn't be afraid of them (L-1011 was a new plane then). Yes, we got free booze. Passengers overwhelmed the carts in a feeding frenzy. Disgusting!
A month later, our boss called us into the office. He told us that his sister, a stewardess, was on the same flight. I repeated, "Man, I thought we wouldn't clear that pier." Boss said, "My sister says, the pilot didn't think he would make it either." Yet, he sounded bored and unconcerned on the intercom. A real pro. Probably ex-military. Most of them were in those days.
Apologies for "stewardess" instead of "flight attendant". That's what everybody said at the time.
I agree with what you're saying, Bisbonian. In nearly 40 years of aircraft maintenance (mainly turbine helicopters), I've seen some of the damage done when a turbine engine shucks a turbine blade or compressor blade. Fan blades on turbo-fan engines are about the same – just larger.
What happens is a very big mess, very quickly. Quickly, like in less than the blink of an eye. The pieces are spun off from rotating assemblies which are spinning at tens of thousands of RPMs. The hot metal flung from a disintegrating engine can punch through just about anything and often those holes look as though they were cut by lasers. The temperature of all this debris can be anywhere from 500F degrees to well over 1500F. Hot enough to easily light off atomized turbine fuel, which will be blowing all over the place due to severed fuel lines and damaged fuel control accessories mounted to, or near, the engine.
Engines can be violently ripped from their mounts due to sudden and extreme unbalance. Structure is often severely damaged when this occurs. Collateral damage often occurs to unrelated systems such as hydraulics, surface controls, and electrical. While there is redundancy on most systems, sometimes you've only got one of a particular thing. Like a right-hand wing, for instance.
Supposedly this was a rather new aircraft. As a mechanic, that means I trust it less. Gawd only knows what got overlooked at a factory. And just because it says "Boeing" on the data plate means nothing. Parts to aircraft are sourced from all over the globe these days. Even parts of parts could be coming from who-knows-where.
Further, should a fan blade get chucked, as Bisbonian offers, recent maintenance means little. Fan blades are directly exposed to whatever they happen to suck in – birds, rocks, wallets, parts of aircraft on runways, etc. Just a tiny unseen nick can quickly lead to catastrophic failure, especially if that nick is near the root of the blade.
So, yeah, while the timing is suspect, it may be that the time and place had nothing to do with the crash. Or maybe it did. Maybe the pilots were nervous to get going and didn't do quite as through a walk-around as they might have normally done. Possibly they were distracted and missed something; maybe even something obvious. Maybe not.
Maybe a missile went up the exhaust. Maybe not.
Time will tell. Maybe. Since politics and various war-mongers are afoot, we may never know the truth. Right now, all we know is that a bunch of innocent folks are dead.
[Edit: By the way, sorry to derail all the fun. I probably should've posted this in some other thread.]
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@travelerxxx@travelerxxx
because you can translate it to the deadliness of the less visible permanent damage
we now see the psyche routinely subjected to.
I agree with what you're saying, Bisbonian. In nearly 40 years of aircraft maintenance (mainly turbine helicopters), I've seen some of the damage done when a turbine engine shucks a turbine blade or compressor blade. Fan blades on turbo-fan engines are about the same – just larger.
What happens is a very big mess, very quickly. Quickly, like in less than the blink of an eye. The pieces are spun off from rotating assemblies which are spinning at tens of thousands of RPMs. The hot metal flung from a disintegrating engine can punch through just about anything and often those holes look as though they were cut by lasers. The temperature of all this debris can be anywhere from 500F degrees to well over 1500F. Hot enough to easily light off atomized turbine fuel, which will be blowing all over the place due to severed fuel lines and damaged fuel control accessories mounted to, or near, the engine.
Engines can be violently ripped from their mounts due to sudden and extreme unbalance. Structure is often severely damaged when this occurs. Collateral damage often occurs to unrelated systems such as hydraulics, surface controls, and electrical. While there is redundancy on most systems, sometimes you've only got one of a particular thing. Like a right-hand wing, for instance.
Supposedly this was a rather new aircraft. As a mechanic, that means I trust it less. Gawd only knows what got overlooked at a factory. And just because it says "Boeing" on the data plate means nothing. Parts to aircraft are sourced from all over the globe these days. Even parts of parts could be coming from who-knows-where.
Further, should a fan blade get chucked, as Bisbonian offers, recent maintenance means little. Fan blades are directly exposed to whatever they happen to suck in – birds, rocks, wallets, parts of aircraft on runways, etc. Just a tiny unseen nick can quickly lead to catastrophic failure, especially if that nick is near the root of the blade.
So, yeah, while the timing is suspect, it may be that the time and place had nothing to do with the crash. Or maybe it did. Maybe the pilots were nervous to get going and didn't do quite as through a walk-around as they might have normally done. Possibly they were distracted and missed something; maybe even something obvious. Maybe not.
Maybe a missile went up the exhaust. Maybe not.
Time will tell. Maybe. Since politics and various war-mongers are afoot, we may never know the truth. Right now, all we know is that a bunch of innocent folks are dead.
[Edit: By the way, sorry to derail all the fun. I probably should've posted this in some other thread.]
...ever dreading that his next meal might just be the one that somehow ensnared him into sitting, trapped and helpless, at a small candlelit table for two with an unwed young woman (for some reason, in his visions these women were *always* long-legged, of Dutch extraction, highly proficient in Winchester-brand firearms, and wearing one - or more!? - of those strange snap-on fox-tail toys he'd noticed were en vogue among some younger voters); hunger was beginning to get to him. He looked to his indomitable Commander-in-Chief for support, but there was nobody at the podium...save for an enormous, talking shank of sugar-glazed ham, with the brand 'John 6:56' stamped invitingly on its side...."
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Yes Virginia, there is a Global Banking Conspiracy!
...ever dreading that his next meal might just be the one that somehow ensnared him into sitting, trapped and helpless, at a small candlelit table for two with an unwed young woman (for some reason, in his visions these women were *always* long-legged, of Dutch extraction, highly proficient in Winchester-brand firearms, and wearing one - or more!? - of those strange snap-on fox-tail toys he'd noticed were en vogue among some younger voters); hunger was beginning to get to him. He looked to his indomitable Commander-in-Chief for support, but there was nobody at the podium...save for an enormous, talking shank of sugar-glazed ham, with the brand 'John 6:56' stamped invitingly on its side...."
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The current working assumption appears to be that our Shroedinger's Cat system is still alive. But what if we all suspect it's not, and the real problem is we just can't bring ourselves to open the box?
...ever dreading that his next meal might just be the one that somehow ensnared him into sitting, trapped and helpless, at a small candlelit table for two with an unwed young woman (for some reason, in his visions these women were *always* long-legged, of Dutch extraction, highly proficient in Winchester-brand firearms, and wearing one - or more!? - of those strange snap-on fox-tail toys he'd noticed were en vogue among some younger voters); hunger was beginning to get to him. He looked to his indomitable Commander-in-Chief for support, but there was nobody at the podium...save for an enormous, talking shank of sugar-glazed ham, with the brand 'John 6:56' stamped invitingly on its side...."
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"I’m a human being, first and foremost, and as such I’m for whoever and whatever benefits humanity as a whole.” —Malcolm X
... He looked to his indomitable Commander-in-Chief for support, but there was nobody at the podium...save for an enormous, talking shank of sugar-glazed ham, with the brand 'John 6:56' stamped invitingly on its side...."
Where did this passage come from?
(It's really good!)
...ever dreading that his next meal might just be the one that somehow ensnared him into sitting, trapped and helpless, at a small candlelit table for two with an unwed young woman (for some reason, in his visions these women were *always* long-legged, of Dutch extraction, highly proficient in Winchester-brand firearms, and wearing one - or more!? - of those strange snap-on fox-tail toys he'd noticed were en vogue among some younger voters); hunger was beginning to get to him. He looked to his indomitable Commander-in-Chief for support, but there was nobody at the podium...save for an enormous, talking shank of sugar-glazed ham, with the brand 'John 6:56' stamped invitingly on its side...."
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"US govt/military = bad. Russian govt/military = bad. Any politician wanting power = bad. Anyone wielding power = bad." --Shahryar
"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides
... He looked to his indomitable Commander-in-Chief for support, but there was nobody at the podium...save for an enormous, talking shank of sugar-glazed ham, with the brand 'John 6:56' stamped invitingly on its side...."
Where did this passage come from?
(It's really good!)
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In the Land of the Blind, the One-Eyed Man is declared mentally ill for describing colors.
Yes Virginia, there is a Global Banking Conspiracy!
"...In order to free us, Iran demands that every US citizen must write a personal check for one-tenth of their yearly income. As we suspected, they have the IRS data. So, if you earned $30 thousand dollars last year, please write a check for $3,000 and take it to your local post office today. They will deposit it in the "Return the Hostages" fund in Tehran."
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TUESDAY:
"...If everyone makes their payment today, we could be back in Washington as soon as tomorrow running the country. Your response to this crisis has been great."
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WEDNESDAY:
"...should be back in Washington protecting American citizens. And draining the swamp. Am I Right? Today, a patriot got a message to us. He said he was short of cash, but then he remembered he could get a title loan on his car. We hope his American ingenuity will inspire you to take your check to the post office, today, and Make America Great Again!"
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THURSDAY:
"...against International Law to hold us in these conditions. The jails of Iran are terrible. They make American jails look like Trump Tower. By the way, the post office is giving free patriot stickers to every American who pay their share of the ransom today. We can't wait to get back to Washington to deliver the government services we know you need. Thank you, America."
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FRIDAY:
"...we've also been discussing college loans with low-interest rates, half-price eye exams, and other generous policies for all citizens. Our goal is to help the American people reach their full potential and find full-time jobs. We're also committed to helping the disabled get back to work again. We intend to put these policies in place as soon as we return. Please make that happen. Drop your check at the post office today."
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SATURDAY:
"...can't impress upon you enough how important it is for us to get back and oversee government operations immediately. All of our lives hang in the balance. We're asking those who received those generous tax cuts, especially, to help cover those who are living paycheck-to-paycheck and struggling to feed their children. Please dig deep. We told Iran that our patriots will make every effort to free us. God bless you."
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SIX MONTHS LATER:
"...told them that the dentists in the jails of the United States are the best in the world. The warden says Iranians are impressed by the generosity of the American people! He said our daily reality show is very popular in Iran. When they heard how much you missed us running the government, the Iranian people have also started sending checks to the "Return the Hostages" fund. How about that? Remember, it's never too late to Make America Great Again!"
best presented by Bill Hicks or Carlin, both gone unfortunately.
MONDAY:
"...In order to free us, Iran demands that every US citizen must write a personal check for one-tenth of their yearly income. As we suspected, they have the IRS data. So, if you earned $30 thousand dollars last year, please write a check for $3,000 and take it to your local post office today. They will deposit it in the "Return the Hostages" fund in Tehran."
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TUESDAY:
"...If everyone makes their payment today, we could be back in Washington as soon as tomorrow running the country. Your response to this crisis has been great."
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WEDNESDAY:
"...should be back in Washington protecting American citizens. And draining the swamp. Am I Right? Today, a patriot got a message to us. He said he was short of cash, but then he remembered he could get a title loan on his car. We hope his American ingenuity will inspire you to take your check to the post office, today, and Make America Great Again!"
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THURSDAY:
"...against International Law to hold us in these conditions. The jails of Iran are terrible. They make American jails look like Trump Tower. By the way, the post office is giving free patriot stickers to every American who pay their share of the ransom today. We can't wait to get back to Washington to deliver the government services we know you need. Thank you, America."
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FRIDAY:
"...we've also been discussing college loans with low-interest rates, half-price eye exams, and other generous policies for all citizens. Our goal is to help the American people reach their full potential and find full-time jobs. We're also committed to helping the disabled get back to work again. We intend to put these policies in place as soon as we return. Please make that happen. Drop your check at the post office today."
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SATURDAY:
"...can't impress upon you enough how important it is for us to get back and oversee government operations immediately. All of our lives hang in the balance. We're asking those who received those generous tax cuts, especially, to help cover those who are living paycheck-to-paycheck and struggling to feed their children. Please dig deep. We told Iran that our patriots will make every effort to free us. God bless you."
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SIX MONTHS LATER:
"...told them that the dentists in the jails of the United States are the best in the world. The warden says Iranians are impressed by the generosity of the American people! He said our daily reality show is very popular in Iran. When they heard how much you missed us running the government, the Iranian people have also started sending checks to the "Return the Hostages" fund. How about that? Remember, it's never too late to Make America Great Again!"
or an SNL-type skit. Scripts that are not that funny without actors.
Then I started thinking it might be a concept for sitcom, or even a stage play, where the President of an unnamed country, along with his cabinet board the wrong plane and are somehow taken hostage by an "enemy" nation that never wanted to fight with them in the first place. Meanwhile, now that they are gone, the citizens of their home country are not in a rush to pay the exorbitant ransom. The longer they delay, the more conditions at home start to improve. The citizens are no longer losing sleep over Russians and World War III. The hostages are in denial about this and come up with elaborate narratives to explain the rescue delay, brainwashing themselves in the process. Their captors allow them to make one broadcast each day to plead with their country to negotiate for their release. The hostages are not aware that talented young filmmakers edit their broadcasts, adding inserts of the jail's survellience videos and the hostages open mic bloopers where they reveal their past political hijinks. The finished broadcast is then uploaded to a Youtube, which their captors have monetized... because the hostages have become an Internet phenomenon and a scandalous train-wreck of a Reality Show. The entire world is hooked.
or an SNL-type skit. Scripts that are not that funny without actors.
Then I started thinking it might be a concept for sitcom, or even a stage play, where the President of an unnamed country, along with his cabinet board the wrong plane and are somehow taken hostage by an "enemy" nation that never wanted to fight with them in the first place. Meanwhile, now that they are gone, the citizens of their home country are not in a rush to pay the exorbitant ransom. The longer they delay, the more conditions at home start to improve. The citizens are no longer losing sleep over Russians and World War III. The hostages are in denial about this and come up with elaborate narratives to explain the rescue delay, brainwashing themselves in the process. Their captors allow them to make one broadcast each day to plead with their country to negotiate for their release. The hostages are not aware that talented young filmmakers edit their broadcasts, adding inserts of the jail's survellience videos and the hostages open mic bloopers where they reveal their past political hijinks. The finished broadcast is then uploaded to a Youtube, which their captors have monetized... because the hostages have become an Internet phenomenon and a scandalous train-wreck of a Reality Show. The entire world is hooked.
I am pleased to tell you today that I’ve signed legislation that will outlaw Russia forever. We begin bombing in five minutes. Hey, hey wait a minute, which one of you assbag morons gave me Clinton's speech script?! To the Tweeter machine for firings! Covfefe!
I am pleased to tell you today that I’ve signed legislation that will outlaw Russia forever. We begin bombing in five minutes. Hey, hey wait a minute, which one of you assbag morons gave me Clinton's speech script?! To the Tweeter machine for firings! Covfefe!
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"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides
The joke was supposed to be that Clinton would have said the same thing, but more seriously, and Trump doesn't care about factual distinctions as much as whipping up partisan bs, but I guess my comedy is more rusty than subtle/clever. Thankfully, at least I amuse myself, heh.
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Heh....
Pence:"Dafuq you you yapping about, Donald? You started this massive F-up when you withdrew from the Iran deal. You own this mess."
Scientists are concerned that conspiracy theories may die out if they keep coming true at the current alarming rate.
'As of 11:00 am, EST,
Andorra has agreed to unconditional surrender. American military might prevails once again.'
Gëzuar!!
from a reasonably stable genius.
How to look at your dog
when it craps on the livingroom floor.
Regardless of the path in life I chose, I realize it's always forward, never straight.
...
blaaah, blaaah, blaaah
..... as The Donald pulls his Akkadian routine and continues to Babylon......
"US govt/military = bad. Russian govt/military = bad. Any politician wanting power = bad. Anyone wielding power = bad." --Shahryar
"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides
War is good...
...and profit is god. ?
“Until justice rolls down like water and righteousness like a mighty stream.”
NO WAY-men
Not just not Amen, but NO WAY-men!
"US govt/military = bad. Russian govt/military = bad. Any politician wanting power = bad. Anyone wielding power = bad." --Shahryar
"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides
America's first neocon boy band.
Mind if I leave this here?
Tell em Bernie? On ByeDone's plan there will still be millions who can't afford to see a doctor.
Scientists are concerned that conspiracy theories may die out if they keep coming true at the current alarming rate.
President...
DJT: "You WILL respect my authoritah!"
@JtC
The current working assumption appears to be that our Shroedinger's Cat system is still alive. But what if we all suspect it's not, and the real problem is we just can't bring ourselves to open the box?
I, the Great Orange One,
am slowly turning those behind me and around me, different shades of Orange. Orange is the new White, as in - look out for the new paint job on the White, NO! Orange House!
"The “jumpers” reminded us that one day we will all face only one choice and that is how we will die, not how we will live." Chris Hedges on 9/11
I am President.
Nothing else matters.
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981
Would Cat you were President, OTC!
"US govt/military = bad. Russian govt/military = bad. Any politician wanting power = bad. Anyone wielding power = bad." --Shahryar
"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides
What they're thinking in a word...
The current working assumption appears to be that our Shroedinger's Cat system is still alive. But what if we all suspect it's not, and the real problem is we just can't bring ourselves to open the box?
Bingo! Bingo! Bingo!
e-mailing that picture!
I've seen lots of changes. What doesn't change is people. Same old hairless apes.
Everyone's hands...
are accounted for except for General Nukes. He must be the pupprtmaster, hand up the back working the dummy's mouth.
It is excellent,
, ... but it's not a caption. The words are on the picture.
I'm looking through the rules to see if we can come up with some sort of exception.
"I’m a human being, first and foremost, and as such I’m for whoever and whatever benefits humanity as a whole.” —Malcolm X
@Bisbonian
The current working assumption appears to be that our Shroedinger's Cat system is still alive. But what if we all suspect it's not, and the real problem is we just can't bring ourselves to open the box?
I would say,
, lay off those blue pills.
Or was it the red ones. I can never remember.
"I’m a human being, first and foremost, and as such I’m for whoever and whatever benefits humanity as a whole.” —Malcolm X
Maybe I'm glad
I'm not flying with you ; ).
red or blue
Here is a handy mnemonic: Think of reality as the social construct that allows you to say, "my opinion matters" and Reality is the Real Reality in which you know "my opinion does not matter". Let Reality be the Red pill, and reality be the Blue pill.
Take the Red pill and you see how deep the rabbit hole goes.
Take the Blue pill and you believe what you want to believe.
RIP
go ask Alice
"And the ones that Mother gives you don't do anything at all." -- Jefferson Airplane
"US govt/military = bad. Russian govt/military = bad. Any politician wanting power = bad. Anyone wielding power = bad." --Shahryar
"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides
Pssst ...
... gitchah self some bettah company, Donald.
Lurking in the wings is Hillary, like some terrifying bat hanging by her feet in a cavern below the DNC. A bat with theropod instincts. -- Fred Reed https://tinyurl.com/vgvuhcl
Good Morning, America
Trump’s hands on the podium look like the reverse of the eagles wings. I wish he’d fly away to another planet and never return, taking all his followers with him, along with all their killing machines. They can battle it out among themselves, far removed from earth.
While driving I heard an abbreviated part of his speech. I closed the windows so other drivers didn’t have to listen to the mortifying voice of america. A few minutes later on National Radio an aviation specialist spoke. He made the argument that if the videos of the plane explosion and falling parts were accurate, it had to have been targeted or from a bomb on the plane.
Good luck, world.
@janis b
The current working assumption appears to be that our Shroedinger's Cat system is still alive. But what if we all suspect it's not, and the real problem is we just can't bring ourselves to open the box?
So sad, but true.
What is the umlaut doing over the english word 'reelection' ?
Makes it seem more German.
The current working assumption appears to be that our Shroedinger's Cat system is still alive. But what if we all suspect it's not, and the real problem is we just can't bring ourselves to open the box?
Not necessary anymore,
to blame the Germans. America does it so well by itself.
The "Aviation Specialist"
, like most specialists on 24 hour news channels, is wrong. It's the same kind of plane as this. One fan blade failed, the engine went out of balance, and the cowling was eaten, large chunks of it hit the fuselage (and then fell to the ground), killing a passenger. Had the fan blade come loose in many other directions, it could have punctured a fuel tank (as happened with a QANTAS Airbus 380), started a massive fire...and more parts would have fallen to the ground. A bomb or a missile could have had similar effects, so...we wait.
"I’m a human being, first and foremost, and as such I’m for whoever and whatever benefits humanity as a whole.” —Malcolm X
Your link only showed me a single image
but I found the reference here.
I know you are an aviation expert, so I appreciate your personal perspective.
Chucking blades
I agree with what you're saying, Bisbonian. In nearly 40 years of aircraft maintenance (mainly turbine helicopters), I've seen some of the damage done when a turbine engine shucks a turbine blade or compressor blade. Fan blades on turbo-fan engines are about the same – just larger.
What happens is a very big mess, very quickly. Quickly, like in less than the blink of an eye. The pieces are spun off from rotating assemblies which are spinning at tens of thousands of RPMs. The hot metal flung from a disintegrating engine can punch through just about anything and often those holes look as though they were cut by lasers. The temperature of all this debris can be anywhere from 500F degrees to well over 1500F. Hot enough to easily light off atomized turbine fuel, which will be blowing all over the place due to severed fuel lines and damaged fuel control accessories mounted to, or near, the engine.
Engines can be violently ripped from their mounts due to sudden and extreme unbalance. Structure is often severely damaged when this occurs. Collateral damage often occurs to unrelated systems such as hydraulics, surface controls, and electrical. While there is redundancy on most systems, sometimes you've only got one of a particular thing. Like a right-hand wing, for instance.
Supposedly this was a rather new aircraft. As a mechanic, that means I trust it less. Gawd only knows what got overlooked at a factory. And just because it says "Boeing" on the data plate means nothing. Parts to aircraft are sourced from all over the globe these days. Even parts of parts could be coming from who-knows-where.
Further, should a fan blade get chucked, as Bisbonian offers, recent maintenance means little. Fan blades are directly exposed to whatever they happen to suck in – birds, rocks, wallets, parts of aircraft on runways, etc. Just a tiny unseen nick can quickly lead to catastrophic failure, especially if that nick is near the root of the blade.
So, yeah, while the timing is suspect, it may be that the time and place had nothing to do with the crash. Or maybe it did. Maybe the pilots were nervous to get going and didn't do quite as through a walk-around as they might have normally done. Possibly they were distracted and missed something; maybe even something obvious. Maybe not.
Maybe a missile went up the exhaust. Maybe not.
Time will tell. Maybe. Since politics and various war-mongers are afoot, we may never know the truth. Right now, all we know is that a bunch of innocent folks are dead.
[Edit: By the way, sorry to derail all the fun. I probably should've posted this in some other thread.]
Lockheed L-1011 Leaving LaGuardia
Sometime prior to 1973.
A big bump on takeoff. I thought "Man, that landing gear was rough!". Plane arches over and pilot announces (very calmly) that we are returning to the airport. I lean past my partner (He was sitting in the window seat). I see the pier rushing up as we are skimming just above the water. All the while Ed is saying "I knew it! I knew it!" over and over. "Knew what Ed?" "This is is Friday the 13th and we are sitting in 13 F & G. I knew it!". We did land, very smoothly. The stewardesses were visibly annoyed that everyone kept asking, "Does this mean we get free booze?" I saw the left engine as I departed. A giant hole in it. it looked like about five rows of blades were missing. Officially, we took in a bird. I think that the engine suffered infant mortality and a blade cracked off. The plane was brand new. They flew an empty L-1011 from Chicago to get us just so we wouldn't be afraid of them (L-1011 was a new plane then). Yes, we got free booze. Passengers overwhelmed the carts in a feeding frenzy. Disgusting!
A month later, our boss called us into the office. He told us that his sister, a stewardess, was on the same flight. I repeated, "Man, I thought we wouldn't clear that pier." Boss said, "My sister says, the pilot didn't think he would make it either." Yet, he sounded bored and unconcerned on the intercom. A real pro. Probably ex-military. Most of them were in those days.
Apologies for "stewardess" instead of "flight attendant". That's what everybody said at the time.
I've seen lots of changes. What doesn't change is people. Same old hairless apes.
Sorry - No apology for detail accepted.
because you can translate it to the deadliness of the less visible permanent damage
we now see the psyche routinely subjected to.
"Pence had been fasting for over a week now...
...ever dreading that his next meal might just be the one that somehow ensnared him into sitting, trapped and helpless, at a small candlelit table for two with an unwed young woman (for some reason, in his visions these women were *always* long-legged, of Dutch extraction, highly proficient in Winchester-brand firearms, and wearing one - or more!? - of those strange snap-on fox-tail toys he'd noticed were en vogue among some younger voters); hunger was beginning to get to him. He looked to his indomitable Commander-in-Chief for support, but there was nobody at the podium...save for an enormous, talking shank of sugar-glazed ham, with the brand 'John 6:56' stamped invitingly on its side...."
In the Land of the Blind, the One-Eyed Man is declared mentally ill for describing colors.
Yes Virginia, there is a Global Banking Conspiracy!
Donny's next career...
The current working assumption appears to be that our Shroedinger's Cat system is still alive. But what if we all suspect it's not, and the real problem is we just can't bring ourselves to open the box?
"I don't want to talk about it, I'll have a green salad"
Funny!
Winner!!!
"I’m a human being, first and foremost, and as such I’m for whoever and whatever benefits humanity as a whole.” —Malcolm X
passage
Where did this passage come from?
(It's really good!)
"US govt/military = bad. Russian govt/military = bad. Any politician wanting power = bad. Anyone wielding power = bad." --Shahryar
"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides
Which "passage"?
If you just mean my whole thing there, I made it up on the spot for this.
In the Land of the Blind, the One-Eyed Man is declared mentally ill for describing colors.
Yes Virginia, there is a Global Banking Conspiracy!
It's still really good! /nt
"US govt/military = bad. Russian govt/military = bad. Any politician wanting power = bad. Anyone wielding power = bad." --Shahryar
"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides
"We have been taken Hostage by Iran"
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TUESDAY:
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WEDNESDAY:
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THURSDAY:
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FRIDAY:
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SATURDAY:
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SIX MONTHS LATER:
This could be a comedy routine,
best presented by Bill Hicks or Carlin, both gone unfortunately.
I don't know who wants to laugh these days
not me.
https://www.euronews.com/live
Come on mimi, what are you thinking?
I know your want to laugh, maybe not about this stuff, but what about this?
[video:https://youtu.be/0MUsVcYhERY]
This may be my favourite advertisement for anysink .
ok, you made me smile /nt
https://www.euronews.com/live
Great,
so now what do I have to post to make you laugh ; )
Maybe this, maybe not?
[video:https://youtu.be/NpGWDBZuUww]
thank you, janis, to introduce me to Vince Ebert, sigh ...
I often wondered why there are so many good comedians in the US. Now it's so bad that we need them in Germany too.
https://www.euronews.com/live
nothing more, I listened to it again, and now I am laughing
you saved me from sinking and got me thinking.
https://www.euronews.com/live
As a wrote it, I realized I was writing a sitcom
or an SNL-type skit. Scripts that are not that funny without actors.
Then I started thinking it might be a concept for sitcom, or even a stage play, where the President of an unnamed country, along with his cabinet board the wrong plane and are somehow taken hostage by an "enemy" nation that never wanted to fight with them in the first place. Meanwhile, now that they are gone, the citizens of their home country are not in a rush to pay the exorbitant ransom. The longer they delay, the more conditions at home start to improve. The citizens are no longer losing sleep over Russians and World War III. The hostages are in denial about this and come up with elaborate narratives to explain the rescue delay, brainwashing themselves in the process. Their captors allow them to make one broadcast each day to plead with their country to negotiate for their release. The hostages are not aware that talented young filmmakers edit their broadcasts, adding inserts of the jail's survellience videos and the hostages open mic bloopers where they reveal their past political hijinks. The finished broadcast is then uploaded to a Youtube, which their captors have monetized... because the hostages have become an Internet phenomenon and a scandalous train-wreck of a Reality Show. The entire world is hooked.
Thank you Pluto,
for your talented mind acrobatics!
Both reincarnated as
Doug Stanhope.
"I’m a human being, first and foremost, and as such I’m for whoever and whatever benefits humanity as a whole.” —Malcolm X
Tiny Trump
and his Band of Ghouls.
Tickets on sale now.
Neither Russia nor China is our enemy.
Neither Iran nor Venezuela are threatening America.
Cuba is a dead horse, stop beating it.
The two guys to the President's right:
"Man that guy's comb-over is epic! ... I need a new stylist."
"The enemy is anybody who is going to get you killed, no matter which side he's on." Yossarian
Where is alligator ed or Dallas Doc when we need them? nt
https://www.euronews.com/live
Das erste Opfer des Krieges, so ein Spruch, ist die Wahrheit/nt
https://www.euronews.com/live
Now
I'm not laughing.
the truth
The first victim of war, as the saying goes, is the truth
Sun Tzu would agree with you: "All war is deception."
"US govt/military = bad. Russian govt/military = bad. Any politician wanting power = bad. Anyone wielding power = bad." --Shahryar
"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides
My fellow Americans,
I am pleased to tell you today that I’ve signed legislation that will outlaw Russia forever. We begin bombing in five minutes. Hey, hey wait a minute, which one of you assbag morons gave me Clinton's speech script?! To the Tweeter machine for firings! Covfefe!
that was Ray-gun
[video:https://youtu.be/bBow1ToJBFE]
"US govt/military = bad. Russian govt/military = bad. Any politician wanting power = bad. Anyone wielding power = bad." --Shahryar
"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides
Yeah I know
The joke was supposed to be that Clinton would have said the same thing, but more seriously, and Trump doesn't care about factual distinctions as much as whipping up partisan bs, but I guess my comedy is more rusty than subtle/clever. Thankfully, at least I amuse myself, heh.
The community elders
are now rethinking their decision to allow the village idiot to speak.
I'm great at multi-tasking. I can waste time, be unproductive, and procrastinate all at the same time.
Let's play "Count the lies of Donald Trump"
Lee Camp has a few
[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEAp_UouT2Q&feature=emb_logo]
6.022E+23 /nt
"US govt/military = bad. Russian govt/military = bad. Any politician wanting power = bad. Anyone wielding power = bad." --Shahryar
"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides
i'll go with 'satan addressing his potentates'