Open Thread WE 12 JUL 23 ~ The glorious twelfth
The Twelfth came out of the commemoration of the Battle of Aughrim,
which took place on July 12, 1691. Prince William of Orange and James II of England and Ireland, who was also known as King James VII of Scotland duked it out.
King James was the last Catholic King of England.
Religion, war and politics anyone?
1700 Gelderland accepts Gregorian calendar; yesterday is June 30, 1700
-- And you thought DST was confusing.
1804 Former United States Secretary of the Treasury Alexander Hamilton dies after being shot in a pistol duel the previous day by Vice President Aaron Burr
1843 Mormon leader Joseph Smith says God allows polygamy
1917 The Bisbee Deportation occurs as vigilantes kidnap and deport nearly 1,300 striking miners and others from Bisbee, Arizona
1933 Congress passes 1st minimum wage law (33 cents per hour)
1960 USSR's Sputnik 5 launched with 2 dogs
-- are dogs as smart as pigs? Just askin'
In other news, apparently NATO is going to tell Exlinsky to take a hike.
While he threatens, blames, snorts, lies and generally acts like a clown -
the puppets in the room will only pull their punches a wee bit. Like,
sorry kid. Whatever dirt you have on us is about enough to bury you.
The sorry assed excuses they use - no more money and bullets left.
And, BTW, Blackrock owns your broken land now.
What's on your mind today?
Call it like you see it.
Tell it like it is.
Comments
Good morning...
Off on a music trip today. Looking forward to seeing old friends and making noise.
The NATOstan meeting is a clown world in and of itself. Defense organization my ass. It is a war machine...that is out of bullets. Sad state of affairs.
Well, thanks for the OT and see you next week!
“Until justice rolls down like water and righteousness like a mighty stream.”
Have fun with your music
Sounds like a good time. Caught this from the Cradle.
US loots new batch of Syrian oil, reinforces bases in occupied Hasakah
Using the military to pirate sovereign nations' energy supplies is not a good look.
Who says war is not a racket?
https://new.thecradle.co/articles/us-loots-new-batch-of-syrian-oil-reinf...
Naming names
The Blob Begins to Quiver
A long list of public figures populating the Blob await a reckoning: Hillary and Bill Clinton and their retainers, Barack Obama and retinue, John Brennan, James Clapper, James Comey, Christopher Wray (plus Rosenstein, Strzok, McCabe, Carlin, Ohr, Mueller, Weissmann, Horowitz, Atkinson, Ciaramella, Vindman), Rep. Adam Schiff, Senator Mark Warner, William Barr, Avril Haines, Marie Yovanovitch, William Burns, James Boasberg, Marc Elias, Michael Bromwich, David Laufman, Alejandro Mayorkas, Xavier Baccerra, Anthony Fauci, Rochelle Walensky, Francis Collins, Lloyd Austin. Mark Milley, Antony Blinken, Jake Sullivan, Ron Klain, Nancy Pelosi, Liz Cheney… the list goes way on, but there’s a start.
https://kunstler.com/clusterfuck-nation/the-blob-begins-to-quiver/
Max Blumenthal unloads at the UN security council
‘Why are we tempting nuclear annihilation?’
about 14 minutes
She sums up NATO quite well.
No doubt that this will get wall to wall coverage in the nightly news. /S
she nails it
thanks for the truth about NATO. In all 3 categories exposed as lies, the summation of
dissolving the US puppet NATO is key. Hopefully, before they blow up the world.
Best sentence
"It’s high Time to dissolve this murderous organization!"
Amen to that. Just today I saw someone saying that NATO is a defensive organization and it got lots of likes. So many people are brainwashed by the PTB that I don’t think America will ever throw off the propaganda shackles and see their military for what it actually is. Nor will they see how it has robbed them of a good life. Nor will those on the blue and red teams ever see that there is only one party in congress and that they both serve the same donors. I once thought that after the lies about certain things came out people would wake up and get pissed at how they had been lied to, but the truth about Russia gate came out 2 years ago with Mueller and much more so with Durham and still I’m seeing shitlibs believing what they did 3 years ago. All republicans serve Putin and only democrats are fighting to save democracy even though they have openly rigged the last 2 primaries in plain sight and have done so in the past.
There were problems with running a campaign of Joy while committing a genocide? Who could have guessed?
Harris is unburdened of speaking going forward.
The twelfth
Hi all, Hey QMS,
What a weird word twelfth is. When I grew up that was when us kids were going to get everything. On the twelfth. The twelfth of never mom said.
The Max Blumenthal is great, saw it a few days ago, hope everyone watches it. The Kunstler is good too.
Glad to hear you got Fireflies Q. There are some that are synchronous in the flashing. Others are not. Some species mimic the flashing of other species to prey on them (!). Clearly they use various types flashing for species identification themselves. One species is actually named Synchronus Firefly it so good at it.
A cbs Sunday Morn newspiece about them:
Hope all are well and no one is washing away or melting like me.
Have a great day!
We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them.
Look deep into nature, and then you will understand everything better.
both - Albert Einstein
Ha, the twelfth of never
that's when kids grow up.
Very astute, yo mama!
Tax prep companies shared private taxpayer data
with Google and Meta for years, congressional probe finds
The headline on the CNN news page:
https://www.cnn.com/2023/07/12/tech/tax-prep-companies-taxpayer-data-goo...
Based on my experiences with my activity on the intertubes I believe this article and the underlying information is glossing over and hiding the extent of the surveillance of just about everyone who accesses web pages. The article says that:
This is where I would dispute the finding. I believe that this hook is not necessarily in the web page of the host site but in many cases is an interception of the communications between the user and the host site.
What I found is that some unknown agent had used the basic hook which is a "feature" of the chromium internet comm engine to direct ALL activity by the user and the resulting host response to a third party.
This is very similar to what a boss might use to oversee the activity of his employee or a teacher to oversee the activity of the students. BTW, just about every browser uses the chromium engine.
I think there is much, much more to this issue and it goes to the basic trust that people must have to really use the capability of the internet. The abyss is most definitely staring at and controlling us.
Be well all, please.
As an aside... I was working on an essay and had thought to use quotes from the Sinatra My Way piece.
Oh my, what a wonderful pedigree of that song and how it came to be and how it was the opposite of what Sinatra personified. And he even said that he didn't like it and it wasn't him. I agree with that...
Paul Anka was the force behind its adaptation of a french song.
In my estimation the internet is the greatest tech invention up to this point... and totally f'ed up by the ...
Oh, never mind... this too shall pass.
Just to pile on,
If you want true privacy, get out into the fields or forest, far away from all electronics, including smart stoves, your vehicles, and so forth.
When my pal who worked a few years at the FBI told me all this was happening years ago, I didn't really grasp the reach.
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981
reach out and get touched
it's the new shopping convenience
I'm sorry for the late response
For all of us.
Your clients chose well.
exindy,
Glad you found the time to respond, and no hurries, no worries.
While you and I can't mention being hungry for chicken tenders without being traced and hammered with chicken tenders ads, 80% of the world's illegal drug use is here in the US.
Might we suppose drug dealers use Morse Code, or cans hooked up to a string?
Hmmm...
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981
Good morning QMS. As I'm sure you know, the strife between
Northern and Southern Ireland predates the whole protestant versus catholic feud. Historically, the Catholic ChurchTM has never been friendly to the Irish people or to the cause of Irish freedom, and generally always sided with the British.
I've often wondered if all the British Kings and the Roundheads had been catholics involved in purely dynastic feuding if a lot of Southern Irish would've perhaps become protestants in rebellion to the colonizers and oppressors and if perhaps many Northern Irish would have stayed Catholic to show their support for their masters.
It should be noted that the US government sent US Army troops to assist in the resettlement of the illegally kidnapped and deported victims of the Bisbee Deportation. Later that same government described the action as illegal and without any authority in any state or federal law, but nobody was ever tried for it, and the Supremes ruled in United States v. Wheeler (1920), that the Constitution, per se, doesn't give the Feds the authority to intervene in kidnappings and such. What a farce.
Thanks for the OT, btw. Nuthin' in particular on my mind, 'cept the first performance of "The Rolling Stones" under that name on 07-12-1962. No idea what they played, but probably Chuck Berry and Bo Diddley covers and such.
Found this:
be well and have a good one
That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --
Seems odd nobody pays for breaking laws
at the government level. Years after, it is decided there were some illegalities
performed, but no one is held to account. It's no wonder law breaking is the
new, fun sport among the masses. Just following example.
thanks for popping in!
Zelensky's "give me more" visit to NATO gets deservedly dragged
on the internet. If you know where to look.
Join us!
Regarding Ukraine's quest for NATO membership
Here's an excerpt from the NATO Declarations posted at Vilnius:
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Ahead of the start of the NATO Summit in Vilnius:
A Pre-Summit press conference was held.
Note the following question from the Ukraine News Agency:
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Coverage and comment is from b. at MOA:
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Later, a release from Via Strana.news (machine translation):
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More from MOA:
IMAGINE if you woke up the day after a US Presidential Election and headlines around the the world blared, "The Majority of Americans Refused to Vote in US Presidential Election! What Does this Mean?"
Maybe Exlensksi will just put up a tantrum
like a school child, demanding his way?
No, bitter child. The world does not turn on
your wishes. After all, you have sold-out and
destroyed your country. Why should we listen
to you? This may be obvious to objective observers.
My only remaining question
concerns who will finally frag him? Will it be the Russians, his own people or us?
He's put a lot of work into salting away a few billion dollars that he has to know full well he'll never live to spend. He can't have shoved it all up his nose yet...
Twice bitten, permanently shy.
my money is on the CIA
they are so embedded that if the call comes in tomorrow
it is a done deal. Exlensky should know this, but he will try
to blackmail the wrong people to prove his importance.
Another wrong move, among many. Clown gets clobbered.
Ukraine has basically been accepted into NATO
It’s estimated that 200,000 to 350,000 Ukrainians have been killed since February 2022 and that Ukraine has lost more than $12 trillion in valuable resources that are now controlled by Russia. And anything left will be taken by blackrock and their cronies while absolutely crushing austerity measures will be implemented against the remaining population.
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The Ukraine people didn’t want a war with Russia and they elected Zelensky because he said that he would make peace and we all know what happened when he tried to do it. They shouldn’t feel bad that they believed the lies since many Americans believed the things Obama ran on. We don’t want eternal war, but no matter who we elect we still get it. And we can thank Obama and the shitlibs for killing anything left of the anti war movement. Every time I tried getting people to wake the fck up I got shot down because they said Obama’s got this! Still can’t get over when I protested the use of drones and was told that they saved soldier’s lives.
There were problems with running a campaign of Joy while committing a genocide? Who could have guessed?
Harris is unburdened of speaking going forward.
Don't think so.
be well and have a good one
That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --
Oh okay
since you’ve made your point so clearly…. Seems there is a lot more to the essay than what you quoted that you disagree with.
There were problems with running a campaign of Joy while committing a genocide? Who could have guessed?
Harris is unburdened of speaking going forward.
Snoopy
Can't imagine picking through it to argue.
El can.
Time is on his side.
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981
Nato’s reach is worldwide,
and the US is clearly its leader. NZ is dependent on alliances with both the US and China. It will be interesting to see what happens here with the upcoming election and the direction the country takes. For most of its life it assumed a role of neutrality and peace-making. Not so much anymore. As difficult as it is I hope the country can sustain enough of its independence and survive the US and China.
On dancing with NATO on Defence
It’s sad to see both NZ and Sweden giving up their
neutrality when it comes to war. And to see how many countries are okay with Germany and Japan building up their militaries again after they both signed treaties not to.
Weird how after 80 years Russia hasn’t done anything against Europe except to sell them gas at a low price. NATO’s goal are to keep Germany down and to keep Russia out of Europe and America on top as the global predator. NATO should have been disbanded after the USSR broke up, but instead it gave itself permission to start wars anywhere it wanted to. Joe's quote tonight is spot on. America only stops wars when it wants to start another one. Didn’t Biden say that he would stop America’s forever wars after he left Afghanistan?
Good luck with your election. I hope someone decent gets elected!
There were problems with running a campaign of Joy while committing a genocide? Who could have guessed?
Harris is unburdened of speaking going forward.
That's a great point snoopy
It makes me think about how, out of necessity (after devastating wars), a country can excel at innovation, and then how quickly they decline again.
And both Germany and Japan are occupied countries
by America’s military and doesn’t give a fck how many people want them to go home and leave them in peace. The environmental damage that our bases cause in Japan have been well documented not to mention what our troops get away with doing. Oh well if the dollar ever falls from its heights one day those soldiers who are occupying over 800 foreign bases will have to come home and it can’t happen soon enough for me. Too bad that it will be too late to save America.
There were problems with running a campaign of Joy while committing a genocide? Who could have guessed?
Harris is unburdened of speaking going forward.
I am sorry to say but New Zealand's neutrality is a facade.
The article explains the situation.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five_Eyes
Due to its location trade with China is important but it is overwhemled buy US pressure to stay in line.
Just like the change of government control in Australia there will be no perceptible change in policy.
BTW
NATO is simply an appendage of US foreign policy and its members have no actual say in its workings.
Yes, but the difference is,
is that for decades they could mostly still perform a more neutral role.
When crunch came to shove there was no doubts where
the allegiance would lie.
Oh one can only wish to be free from US imperialism and return to more saner days.
Crunching and shoving
is what america seems to do best.
Sadly you are correct. NT
Here is how US influence (CIA) works.
https://www.rt.com/africa/579597-iran-president-visits-africa/
A mere coincidence. HAH!
https://www.rt.com/africa/579611-kenyan-protesters-killed/
The CIA and the NCOs have been quite busy world wide.
Thanks for keeping an eye on the CIA n/t