Open Thread - Rants, Muses, Books & Music (and Some Cooking Too).

It's good to see you. Come on in, leave your shoes in the hallway, we've got fire on the stove preparing lunch for later. In the meantime, browse the bookshelves and plunk down on the sofa with one, or pick out some tunes from the music library or come in to the kitchen to help with the cooking. Our special blend of tea is steeping and will be right up.

Make yourself at home...

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(cover illustration by Occupy Wall St activist Molly Crabapple).

There's a passage in Matt Taibbi's "The Divide" that I've referred to in my notes as the "best 6 pages he's written." That's what I told him, when I had the chance to meet him in the reception area of the satellite radio show where a very good friend of mine and he were going to appear. Specifically, I said, it was pages 323-328.

If you haven't read it, the book is a tour de force, a deeply rankling insight into a world of dehumanization at the greased hands of Lady Liberty. He documents various blood-boiling incidents in which the slippery scales of justice lie shattered on the ground. In the wreckage lies a two-tiered system, of impunity for financial elites and murderous cops, and a Dantesque nightmare scenario for the rest of us, especially the poor, especially brown and black folks, and especially women - and it lies heavy upon us all. In this era of the first two decades at the turn of the century in which America has seriously become a banana republic, Taibbi's legendary command, of arcane financial skulduggery and the interconnectedness of the broader issues, becomes more and more important.

These six pages contain, in my view, some of the best summation of a malaise felt on some level by everyone in this country, no matter what you're background is. Doesn't matter if you're an overworked urban medical doctor administering at the behest of insurance companies, or a suburban office employee still tossed about in a maelstrom of ever-rising cost of living bills, or a poor rural family scrambling to find enough for the gas tank while staving off chronic hunger. Everybody is getting royally screwed, but few have the time, or lack the wherewithal, to really begin to understand what's going on.

The chapter in which it appears is called "Little Frauds." In it he juxtaposes the indignity with which poor women on welfare are hounded and violated, with the hands-off approach to white collar white men who conspired to scam working folks out of their pensions and savings, and who then had the sheer audacity to ransack the federal government for a taxpayer bailout.

He begins the chapter by telling the story of a Hispanic woman in Southern California, a victim of domestic abuse, who legally qualified for food stamps. A gruff social worker appears at her door a few days later, practically pushes her aside and begins berating her with ugly accusations of her personal life, while looking around her apartment. In her bedroom he's sifting through her underwear drawer, making threats that if he finds evidence of her estranged boyfriend/father of the child she cares for, living there, he could, and will take her son away.

"They make you feel like a piece of garbage," she tells Taibbi.

That incident happened in the late 80's. It's worse now. In some places, such as San Diego, instead of a social worker it's a law enforcement officer who make these visits now. In 2011 alone, the county made "an astonishing 26,000 home visits."

...while the San Diego district attorneys office spent more than a decade sifting through thousands of dresser drawers and bringing felony cases all the way to court for frauds as small as $400, executives in the same general area of Southern California, at companies like Countrywide and Long Beach Mortgage, were pioneering the brilliant mass fraud scheme that involved the sales of toxic mortgage-backed securities.

These financial companies were part of a global scheme that stole trillions of dollars from people all over the world. Countrywide alone cost the taxpayer $26.6 billion. In the settlement of mortgage fraud abuses, the federal government was able to recover that amount, but from 21 different cases involving players at all levels. Every single one of the companies were permitted to settle without admitting to any wrongdoing. "Not a single individual was charged and any of those cases. Not a single individual had to pay so much is a dime of his own money and damages."

For these obscene crimes that sent the world's economy into a tailspin, not one of these Economic Terrorists' homes were searched. "No banker ever had someone pick up his underwear by a pencil and and wave it in his face."

$26 billion of fraud: no felony cases.

But when the stakes are in the hundreds of dollars we kick in 26,000 doors, in just one county.

At this point in the chapter, Taibbi begins to try to make sense of the nonsensical. He concludes it's "the logic of our new shadow government," which is more about fucking with people than it is about money, which he attributes to an inability or laziness to govern ourselves. "So we put society on bureaucratic autopilot - and autopilot turns out to be a steel trap for losers and a grease pipeline to money power and impunity for winners."

To understand this insane apparatus requires thinking beyond the "Two Americas" cliche. For the most part, he says, every society has favored the rich and discriminated agains the poor. "The new truth is infinitely darker and more twisted."

He describes a dystopian world we've (beginning the ultimate question, who is we?) created, in which the real issues aren't "justice and injustice, but biology and mortality. We have a giant meat grinding bureaucracy that literally alters the physical makeup of its citizens, systematically grinding down the losers into a smaller, meeker, lower race of animal while aggrandizing the winners, making them bigger than life, impervious, super-people."

What's different now is that these quaint old inequities have become internalized in that "second government" – a vast system of increasingly unmanageable bureaucracies, spanning both the public and private sectors. These inscrutable, irrational structures, crisscrossing back-and-forth between the worlds of debt and banking and law-enforcement, are growing up organically around the pounding twin impulses that drive modern America: burning hatred of all losers and the poor, and breathless, abject worship of the rich, even the talentless and undeserving rich.

This is where I think he gets to the heart of the matter, which is how dehumanizing unbridled capitalism is. We live within a system in which a small cabal of oligarchs are permitted to not only greedily hoard all the world's resources and concentrate its wealth, but to use those gargantuan sums of money to infiltrate the minds of the citizenry at all levels of - inside schools to newspapers to the halls of Congress - through divide and conquer propaganda, and to then do their bidding of keeping the status quo intact.

It's a fully functioning psychotic trap of dog-eat-dog economics stemming from a completely failed and useless government, in which we're caught in the grasp of a Catch-22, which promotes "freedom and liberty and justice for all" propaganda through all levels of society, but distorts the idea of the "pursuit of happiness" or personal fulfillment through the Great Sham, which is that it can ultimately only be attained through the acquisition of more and more cheap disposable goods, which one dutifully accepts while on the way to achieving the purposely elusive American Dream™. Nobody cares about anything else that is happening around them, as long as there's a chance to get rich quick.

All the while this draconian system churns on...

No one is managing these bureaucracies anymore. They are managing us. Just as corporations are brainless machines for making profits, this sweeping the complex system of public – private bureaucracies that constitutes our modern politics is just a giant, brainless machine for creating social inequity.

It mechanically, automatically keeps the poor poor, devours money from the middle class, and sends it upward. Because it's fueled by the irrepressibly rising vapor about darkest hidden values, and attacks people without money, particularly nonwhite people, with a weirdly venomous kind of hatred, treating them like they're already guilty of something, which of course they are – namely, being that which we're all afraid of becoming.

In the Orwellian dystopia the original sin was thoughtcrime, but in our new corporate dystopia the secret in a crime is need, securely financial need. People in America hide financial need like they hide sexual perversions.

Why? Because there's a direct correlation between need and rights. The more you need, the more you all, the fewer rights you have.

It's a sick, upside down, system. So much of life today, from the most menial thing such as getting your drivers license or challenging a parking ticket, or even trying to get someone on the line at your local police precinct to take a report, can be an infuriating exercise in futility.

Conversely, the less you need, the more you have, the more the free citizen you get to be. On the extreme ends of the spectrum it is literally a crime to be poor, while a person with enough money literally cannot be prosecuted for certain kinds of crimes.

What keeps the poor poor and rushes the money upward is the complexity of the bureaucracy. If you have the wrong kind of person and you get caught up in the criminal justice system, we're stuck in the welfare of bureaucracy, or mired in debt, you can't get out without navigating a maze so complex and dispiriting and irrational that it can't possibly even be mapped. It's not brains that you need to get on get through it, but time, energy, strength. You have to stand on line after line, send letter after letter, make call after call.

The reality of our government, and how blatantly it is beholden to big moneyed interests, doesn't leave us with a lot of hope. The justice system is pure farce, manipulated by those who can wage and win wars of attrition.

And if you want to change even the smallest law, and your home state or in Washington, you need an army of thousands of lobbyist to get it done. And even in the rare case that you succeed, you then need to commit to ten years or more furiously boring legal battles and inane bureaucratic rule-writing sessions and fend off tens or hundreds of thousands of pages of dissenting reports and comment letters and policy papers, all developed mechanically by an industry that responds not by human decision, but bureaucratic reflex.

On the other side of the coin, the secret to conquering the financial bureaucracy isn't savvy and business sense, or the ability to spot a good entrepreneurial idea. Instead, it's pure bureaucratic force, the ability to throw 100 lawyers at every problem, to file 1000 motions and never get tired, to file ten thousand, a hundred thousand, one million lawsuits.

In other words, you need to be a bureaucracy and order to survive one. This is the overwhelming narrative of modern American economics, that the individual, particularly the individual without a lot of money, is inherently overmatched. He's a loser. And if he falls into any part of the machine, he goes straight to the bottom.

Everybody experiences this bullshit, and know that the system is rigged on every level.

How then do we get those beaten down by the crushing inertia of it all, to instead of accept it by just mumbling in response, as if it were some kind of profundity, "it is what it is," to understand life doesn't have to be this way. How do we get those who are outraged enough, as were are at C99, to want to have these conversations on a mass scale, to keep some hope alive, so that a moment of clarity shines upon humanity, and all folks realize we're are all the same and would just like the basics in life to be the right of one and all, with no exceptions.

So, what's going on with you?

Back in the kitchen we're listening to:

Thin Lizzy "Black Rose"

Reading/Browsing List:
"Runaway Inequality" Les Leopold
"Griftopia" Matt Taibbi
"The Twentieth Century" Howard Zinn
"The Leaderless Revolution" Carne Ross

Middle Eastern split pea soup with vegan sausage

diced 2 onions, chop 4 carrots and 3 celery sticks. Sauté onions first until they begin to caramelize, then add the rest.
In another pot, boil a 1.5 cups of split peas. Set aside when just soft but not mushy.
In another pan, fry sausage for a few minutes, then add split peas to cook further and make slightly crisp.
Add lots of coriander and some turmeric to sautéed onions/carrots/celery, along with a few cloves of garlic. Cook for a couple of minutes, then add 3 cups of water.
Add half of the split peas. Bring to a boil.
Remove soup from stove and using an emulsifier blender, puree soup.
Return to stove, bring back to slow boil, add sausage and remaining half of split peas. Cook for a few minutes. Turn off fire. Add handful of fresh chopped thyme and squeezed lemon.

Lemongrass Chai Blend

heaping scoop of dried Thai lemongrass
shards of cinnamon bark
a few cardamom pods
a few black peppercorns
A few cloves
fresh chopped ginger

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riverlover's picture

and demands became ridiculous. Prove what jobs you looked for this week. I lived then and now in a University Town, unemployment levels were lower than most of NYS and I feared I had been blackballed. On top of that, an EBT card, hard to cash out. I am sure funds were sucked back, I had to change from bank to credit union then (bank was withdrawing from the area)and my husband was actively dying, if such is possible, so my unemployment came in a perfect storm.

Hub luckily (also unemployed) took SS at 62. Died at 63. I was 57, could not get SS widow's benefits until I turned 60. I am now 64, lived longer than him. My income levels were lower, I can't move to my own SS payout until I turn 70. My mother died in January, lived off former husband's (father) SS until she was nearly 97, father is also supporting his widow, my age with SS. None of us (save me) were filthy rich. And I am not.filthy.rich. Just easing along.

Hug your son. Hope for adaptation and migration. Sorry, irritated by leg cast and staples in my foot, now moving. And many plants to dig holes for but notice to keep the cast dry.

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Mark from Queens's picture

@riverlover
When I sometimes wonder why our system, as it applies to social programs and gov't help, feel so anxiety-driven or dehumanizing (as you describe, and is the theme of this essay and Taibbi's book), it always come back to the fundamentals of capitalism.

My feeling is that if we not only live in, but exalt, concepts of every-man-for-himself/"free market" capitalism/deregulation is good for "business," then we're going to breed a society of mistrust, cheating, greed, etc. Because in the game of capitalism it's only about being successful (i.e. profits, acquisition, power). And so we're each reduced to getting what we can, however we can, and all is fair in this game, or as been said by some cutthroat douchebag way back when, "it's just business, it's nothing personal." The propaganda of the chasing the American Dream keeps us stuck in the rut of this thinking.

Seems to me we'd have a lot less depression, suicide, of malcontents, penchant for aggression, backstabbers, etc if we moved to an economic system of highly regulated capitalism or socialism.

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"If I should ever die, God forbid, let this be my epitaph:

THE ONLY PROOF HE NEEDED
FOR THE EXISTENCE OF GOD
WAS MUSIC"

- Kurt Vonnegut

Thanks for the book review on Taibbi's latest, and thank god for journalists like him, Greenwald and a few others. Whenever I want to plow through the wave of fake news, I head to their work to see what they are saying.

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"Religion is what keeps the poor from murdering the rich."--Napoleon

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@dkmich

he said some whack things defending Hillary. I'm inclined to give him a pass, I think. Only because of the monumental mountain of investigate journalism he's given us, along with a penchant to go after the scumbag Economic Terrorists of Wall St with razor sharp scrutiny and wit.

And to think, he was all set up to join the Intercept with Greenwald. That would have been the All-Star team of this generation's investigative journalists all in one place: those two with Jeremy Scahill and Lee Fang, and the rest if their crew.

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THE ONLY PROOF HE NEEDED
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Don't know how but it seems most every Tuesday lately is a plush grey day of calming weather.

Stillness here. Overcast, rained all night I think. Was coming down when I left the club after 1AM and drove home, and had to walk about a good long way because there was no parking in the neighborhood.

Here in the kitchen, with a leftover coffee from yesterday. Love peanut butter and so does the Boy. But having him learn to feed himself, with this particular food today, is resulting in a face full and hair speckled scene of sticky peanut butter everywhere.

We listen to the "birdies" outside the kitchen window, while he babbles a bit, and excitedly at the "'ies" (short for birdies). Strumming the guitar softly feel right too.

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I love Taibbi. I seen several great interviews with him (including Chris Hedges show), and read his articles but haven't read this book yet. Somewhere I learned he is the son journalists and fell into the family business. Thanks for the recommendation.

Amy and Juan had Noam on for the hour show (after headlines). All I can say is he's got a deep understanding of the deep state. https://www.democracynow.org/

Beautiful morning at trade day after an almost two inch rain yesterday. Spring sure has sprung in this corner of the world. Hope you all have a good one...

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“Until justice rolls down like water and righteousness like a mighty stream.”

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@Lookout
who I sort of remember as a kid. Matt was also a semi-pro basketball player who played in Russia for a bit.

Really loved the Hedges interview from his show on RT. As someone else here was saying, he looked more relaxed than usual with Taibbi. They were clearly enjoy themselves and each other, which I think stems from a real mutual respect and camaraderie they must have.

Thanks for the tip about Noam on DN. Kind of taking a break from the news shows and theirs. Partly because as Amy and Juan are among my favorites, they've too taken a bit to the Trump/Russia/Dem Resistance™ overkill, and I find it a turn-off. Same is going on now with WBAI, the local Pacifica radio station from which DN broadcasts internationally. They too have jettisoned some of their more radical voices for a more streamlined Resistance™ style programming. It's a drag seeing this going on right now.

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just like I do with NCTim. Enjoy the link. Not all Southern Boogie rock was Lynerd Skynerd. Yuck and played to the max.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHuDWI9rvvw

Rec'd!!

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Mark from Queens's picture

@orlbucfan Good to see you.

It's edifying, contenting, and fulfilling to be among so many bright, committed and compassionate folks here. No better place online.

Don't know Potliquor. When were (are) they?

Yeah, I dig some, not much, Southern Rock for sure. It was weird...when I was in high school in the early 80's there was some kind of Southern revival going on musically. Kids wearing stuff with the Confederate flag on it (which as a I symbol I just naively took to be a general, cool sign of rebellion, though I was never inclined toward wearing it), cowboy boots, Charlie Daniels, Allmans, Molly Hatchet, and of course Skynyrd.

Still love Skynyrd and see some lineage back to late 60's British blues/hard rock bands such as Free. I sometimes play in a band that celebrates the music of Free (who went on to become Bad Company), and find some of that stuff elementally paved the way for bands like Skynyrd.

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THE ONLY PROOF HE NEEDED
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Thank you for the book review, the recipes (which I hope to try), the music, and the video (so heartbreaking - but I subscribed to their YouTube channel). To answer your question:

How do we get those who are outraged enough, as were are at C99, to want to have these conversations on a mass scale, to keep some hope alive, so that a moment of clarity shines upon humanity, and all folks realize we're are all the same and would just like the basics in life to be the right of one and all, with no exceptions.

So, what's going on with you?

Last week you had the cool article about the sailing ships bringing produce to NYC. I imagine it provides an income boost to the farmers who grow the vegetables.

I have a different vision for extra vegetables. Of course I hope to freeze for my family and give to friends. But every time there are extra veggies, sack them up with a carton of eggs, and (my daughter suggested) homemade bread and take it to one of the local churches and say "would you please give this to someone you know who needs it?"

We have six (all fundamentalist of sorts) churches in a town of 850. While I don't agree with them theologically, I think any of them would be good distribution vehicles. I have never done anything like this before, so actual execution of the idea is a hazy unknown.

But barring a possible natural disaster in pestilence, temperatures, or hail . . . I am expecting a tremendous crop from the round bales. I have never even remotely had plants looking this vigorous in early April. I made this video on Saturday if any of you are interested. It is 24 minutes - sorry, I ramble.

[video:https://youtu.be/iI7R2Yp7iCk]

I have to also include a link to Bisbonian's partner's blog, which was my best source of information on straw bale gardening.

http://thedirtioccupy.blogspot.com/2012/04/dirt-i-occupy-straw-bale-gard...

I am going to meet my husband and son for lunch, so will have to leave it here. So much more to discuss. For example, I just learned from my local source the the pipeline company who owned the train tankers that derailed and spilled diesel fuel in Malakoff TX made a deal with a local gravel company. Instead of cleaning up the spill, they just covered it with gravel.

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Marilyn

"Make dirt, not war." eyo

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Awesome OT. Good to hear from Taibbi. I wonder if he's still a Hillbot? I hope not. We need that mind free from delusion.

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"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha

"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
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Arrow's picture

Found this podcast in a tweet.
Michael Sandel is a professor at Harvard.
The speech is just the first 23 minutes and covers four points regarding the current political situation.(Very similar to Thomas Frank's viewpoints)

https://soundcloud.com/lsepodcasts/in-conversation-with-michael

I know I've been obsessing about the 'Big Picture' lately... Smile

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I want a Pony!

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Wow! Just finished a nice lunch by myself. So, was looking for something bubbly to aid with the digestion. We've been buying seltzer a lot, and the one in the fridge was plain. So I dropped a sliver of lemon in, and then staring me in the face was a big hunk of ginger.

Lopped off a bit and what a surprise. First, how it just plumed up like an Alka Seltzer, and kept going for a few of minutes. Then totally infused the seltzer.

Heh. Refreshing new way I'll be having my seltzer for the foreseeable future.

See yiz later!

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THE ONLY PROOF HE NEEDED
FOR THE EXISTENCE OF GOD
WAS MUSIC"

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shaharazade's picture

and good morning cc99%er's. After a terrible winter that started last October and and ran the gamut from blizzards, ice pellet's, snow to endless record breaking rain, spring is here. Yesterday we had mild temperatures and sun. It was blinding. This morning it's cool and overcast but the birdies are singing blossoms are everywhere and everything is green.

I just put Matt Taibbi's book on hold at the county library website. Our counties library system is excellent you can online put a hold on (order up) any book that is in any of the branches. The library delivers the book to my branch which is within walking distance. Often if a book or DVD is popular or new you have to wait until your number comes up. Tiabbi's book has no line with 4 copies available so I should get it in 3 days. Speaking of bureaucracy the Multnomah county library is the most pleasant humanistic one I've ever dealt with. We passed a law via ballot measure here last election that unhooks the library system from the Feds, the state government and the school system.

I'm getting ready to hit the garden. My garden/yard is a mess after the assault this winter. I'm on a hunt for real horse manure not the plastic bagged up sawdust riddled commercial kind but the real deal. I found several sources from small close by farms and stables using the states agricultural website. Trouble is you have to drive to them and shovel and bag it up. I do not think Shah is up for spending the day filling bags of horse poo and putting them in our car. I'm going to keep looking and see if I can find a source that delivers it and is affordable. If you can go and get it it yourself it's free at most of the farms.

Self reliance and living slightly off the bureaucratic maze/grid is hard when you don't have the money for resources. We're just semi-poor in this 'screw or get screwed' society. When my dad died my mom moved to Paros a Greek island. She lived there for 16 years. She could afford to live well if simply on Paros without eating up her modest nest egg. When she would come back every two years to visit she would say 'In America it has now become a crime to be poor.' This was about 15 years ago and it's gotten worse for all people who do not know how to play the game. It's getting more and more to be a cruel society on every level.

I am done with the ongoing political soap opera that does nothing but wallow in the wake of the perpetrators. I hope that cc99% will offer more essay's about sustainable/creative/ green living and building community both urban and rural. I'm trying to get out of the endless online loop that chronicles our intolerable 'inevitable political system's vice grip, past and present.

When I clear my head a bit I will try to post essays that are about resiliency and other topics that help people to live in this inhumane cruel 'world as we find it'. I have been also looking into the Community Sustainable Agriculture movement here in my city and other ways to help each other become less reliant on being consumers be it of politics, information or the too big's poisonous products. For now I'm taking a break from mainstream politics online. It makes me too angry, too anxious and too negative. Outrage overdose. It seems absurd to me to keep flogging this dead horse.

The Psychedelic Furs and Robyn Hitchcock are coming to a close by neighborhood venue called Revolution Hall this summer. I'm going. This upcoming event set off the +30 year old wavy jukebox in my head Some old new wave music

A wavy woman I admire.

also on the bill ....

More women of new wave pop ilk...

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@shaharazade
Good luck with the equine excreta. We use small amounts of commercial chicken plop and worm tea. That used to be abetted by homebrew compost, but neither of us has been up to working the compost pile for about a year now. Something else for the damn to do list.

I got one raised bed (roughly 2 x 7 feet) ready for planting yesterday (a 3 day process), and have another to do, plus tons of planter boxes and pots. Now we have to decide what to grow that we can reliably expect to grow successfully.

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@shaharazade

I agree that the stuff you buy that calls itself manure is anything but manure. .01%??

I don't care to read about the political bullshit anymore either. It does not solve anything. And if we spend all of our time complaining about it, we miss the beautiful moments all around us. There may be crap and terrible stuff all around, but somewhere a flower is blooming. Maybe just a dandelion.

I am currently a upset about a local oil spill that was covered up with gravel. But, I am trying to be aware and informed without it dragging me down. Gardening is a good cure for that.

Smile

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Marilyn

"Make dirt, not war." eyo

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I grew up there, went there, this all makes sense to me. http://bittersoutherner.com/f-scott-fitzgerald-at-the-seelbach?utm_sourc...

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populace goes along with this because of a strange mental malfunction hammered home by capitalisms proponents and apologists and further aided by the proponents of assorted "work ethics". It is a form of pre-emptive jealousy, the grinding fear that somebody will get a break, benefit or freebie that you didn't get yourself. The projection of the capitalist empirical reality that there pretty much is no free lunch into some sort of moral imperative that there must never be any sort of free lunch. The idea that anybody seeking something for nothing is somehow evil, even though it is the basis not only of gambling, but of rent seeking and speculation, the great drivers of modern capitalism.

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@enhydra lutris

Tea Party right. "If I can't have it, I don't want anyone else to have it either."

I vividly remember hearing this for the first time from folks lobbying against teacher and public workers' retirement benefits. The person being interviewed came out and said that "if I can't have it, I don't want them to have it." Shocked me.

Of course the food stamp urban legend you always hear is, "I was standing in the grocery check-out line and the person in front of me was buying steak and all sorts of foods that I can't afford. They paid for it with food stamps. Then they stacked up the beer and cigarettes and paid for that with a 100 dollar bill." Can't tell you the number of times I have heard a version of that story.

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Louisiana. They came out about the same time as Black Oak Arkansas and Molly Hatchet. my favorite Southern band was the Allman Brothers. I never was a Skynyrd fan. Note my spelling their name Skynerd. Cheers was actually a jam taped live, and it has remained one of my favorite rock tunes. I also do not care much for country & western music. Hope you enjoyed listening to a little known Louisiana gem. Take care!!

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and was up early again this morning after just 5 hours sleep. I'm spent.

Gonna have some dinner, possibly a couple of glasses of red wine, maybe catch Jimmy Dore a bit or some Netflix or get back to a couple of books (and of course peek in on the Cauc).

Just wanted to say thanks for all the good conversation today.

Will catch up tomorrow. 'Nite all...

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THE ONLY PROOF HE NEEDED
FOR THE EXISTENCE OF GOD
WAS MUSIC"

- Kurt Vonnegut

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your always a pleasure to read. A good night to you and yours. See you all tomorrow.

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riverlover's picture

but it makes me happy/sad

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Hey! my dear friends or soon-to-be's, JtC could use the donations to keep this site functioning for those of us who can still see the life preserver or flotsam in the water.

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@riverlover Goats are creepy-cute. Ferlinghetti, search for the video, a paen about SF.

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Hey! my dear friends or soon-to-be's, JtC could use the donations to keep this site functioning for those of us who can still see the life preserver or flotsam in the water.