Open Thread - 07-22-22 - Prometheus

As I sat on the porch the other night awash in an Iron Triangle Gold dream, the stars gazing back at me, my mind wandered back to promises of my youth. My memory was jogged by a jet plane out of Houston drifting northward slowly across the sky, reminding me of the flying car promise from days of yore, not really a promise but an aspiration of the good life prophesied for the future.

As the jet lurched forward enough to the point when the sound caught up, it jarred me back from my dream state, back to the reality of what seems like the present day anti-enlightenment. There are no flying cars and we still struggle for world peace, another broken dream of my youth. Instead of the fantastical flying car as a harbinger of the utopia that may have been, we get this:

Robot dog with machine gun hints of a dystopian future

While Boston Dynamics show off their robot’s dance moves, others turn similar-looking devices into dystopian killing machines.

Much like their flesh-made cousins, robot dogs do not lack attention on the internet. Many have seen the footage of Spot, a high-tech quadruped developed by the US-based company Boston Dynamics, flaunting its dance moves.

However, the latest addition to the robot dog content stream looks like something out of a science fiction movie. Twitter user Sean Chiplock shared a video of someone in Russia firing a gun from a quadruped robot.

Even though the post’s author discusses robots Boston Dynamics make, the one seen in the video is not made by the American company. As Sean Gallagher, a Senior Threat Researcher at Sophos points out, the robot dog is of Chinese origin.

Not the puppy you'd want to bring home for the kids, amirite? Dreams of flying cars and world peace dashed by man's proclivity for killing one another.

Here's another dream squelching futuristic innovation brought to us by the good folks at the WEF, you know, Klaus Schlob and his sidekick Hari Kiri:

Space Bubbles

So all you naysayers can just shut up now about the WEF not having your best interest at heart. Don't you see how they are trying to save life on earth for themselves us? This is proof in the pudding of the WEF's humanitarian predilection. How very promethean, I mean "come on, man"!

As we used to say back in the 60s, a plastic world for plastic people.

Things have gotten so surreal folks. George Bush Jr, Obama, Trump, Biden. I mean, WTF, this is the best we can do? Can things get any worse? The bigger question is what's to follow our current presidential disaster. Joe Biden gets cancer and is cured in one day just to get covid the next? I think the finish line is in sight for Mr. Biden. What will follow? If there is some kind of benevolent sky master out there, please, now is the time to manifest. Make a believer of me.

I'll end with a reminder. Don't succumb to the mind numbing gaslighting. It's meant to discourage you to the point of curling up into a fetal position and giving up. Don't do it, that's what they (you should know who "they" are by now, take your pick) are counting on. They want you submissive and cooperative, like the borg. Resist. Do not comply.

I know what you're thinking. That Iron Triangle Gold must be some good shit. I find myself escaping reality much more frequently nowadays. Know what I mean?

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Free Rangers.

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comes looking for some woman, or should I say, someone of a feminine sort, white, 5'2" heights, 130 lbs. And on that day, the woman (or reasonable facsimile thereof), has on a 5 lb winter coat, is wearing 2" heels.
Is that "woman" fucked, or what?

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"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981

@on the cusp

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@JtC to the robot dog will have robot dog bone food in her (or it's) pocket. No more "guy thing". like, "something".
Disclosure: I read a will prepared by an attorney I know. In all wills, there will be an explanation of words: testator, testatrix, executor, executrix, etc...and his will defined pronouns and titles as feminine, masculine, or neuter. I sent it around to my attorney pals. We just don't get that neuter thing. It has burned on my brain for 24 hours.

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"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981

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@on the cusp

these people:

classical male singing voice equivalent to that of a soprano, mezzo-soprano, or contralto.

be well and have a good one

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That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --

@enhydra lutris castrato.
Queens and princesses loved them. Singing, personal attention, and no pregnancies! Good times!

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"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981

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I gotta fly, to the salt mines for me...

Yeah JtC, we really got screwed. The crazy money won. The bad guys took over. With beads, baubles, and trinkets no less. Whilst faking the importance of spirituality. Apparently not many read The Handbook to a Higher Conciseness, ad. infinitum.

You can be a better squid and still be bred out of existence due to the sheer numbers of stupid squid. Unfortunately our population explosion in the U.S. has been mostly of Homo ignoramus, Homo stupidicus, and Homo psychoensis.

Weaponized robots and drones is what we got instead of the Jetsons. NATO and WEF instead of a prime directive for peace and sustainability. The madness of greed and power will kill us all.

This is where we are:
Bernie-Musk-Chong.jpg

Proud member of Team Tommy for over 50 years.

If the world is going to go up in smoke, I might as well myself.

Y'all have a great day!

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We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them.
Look deep into nature, and then you will understand everything better.
both - Albert Einstein

@dystopian
that was a genius reply to that tweet. 54 years for moi.

Perhaps it's due to a lack of oxygen in the atmosphere and too much carbon dioxide causing hypercapnia:

Hypercapnia: What Is It and How Is It Treated?

Severe symptoms

Severe hypercapnia can pose more of a threat. It can prevent you from breathing properly. Unlike with mild hypercapnia, your body can’t correct severe symptoms quickly. It can be extremely harmful or fatal if your respiratory system shuts down.

See your doctor right away if you have one or more of the following symptoms, especially if you’ve been diagnosed with chronic obstructive pulmonary disease (COPD):

unexplained feelings of confusion
abnormal feelings of paranoia or depression
abnormal muscle twitching
irregular heartbeat
hyperventilation
seizures
panic attack
passing out

Nah, you got it right:

You can be a better squid and still be bred out of existence due to the sheer numbers of stupid squid. Unfortunately our population explosion in the U.S. has been mostly of Homo ignoramus, Homo stupidicus, and Homo psychoensis.

Thanks for stopping by, old buddy.

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@JtC

abnormal feelings of paranoia or depression

As opposed to normal feelings of paranoia or and depression, I presume. Mayhaps it is time to go outside and practice omphaloskepsis under the orange tree, or, then again, maybe not.

A thorough review of this https://archive.org/details/amc-1995-eagle-talon-product-information and related pages provides no information to contradict a confidential informant's assertions that they don't fly for shit, even when driven off of a cliff, though they are good in snow and mud.

amc, didn't they acquire the company that gave us the rambler?

be well and have a good one

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That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --

@enhydra lutris
you bob and weave and drop your payload in a perverse twist.

No we didn't get a flying car, but we did get one that could swim.

That LBJ was a prankster, just like you, mi hermano.

Edit to add: LBJ's Amphicar is on display at his ranch in Texas

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@JtC

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Look, up yonder in the sky, now, what is that I pray?
It's a bird it's a plane, it's a man insane, it's my President lbj
He's flying high way up in the sky just like Superman,

~~ Country Joe McDonald

be well and have a good one compadre

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That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --

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You can see where they are heading:

https://rumble.com/embed/vu8jix/?pub=4

"nobody had enough computing power and data to hack millions of people - neither the Gestapo nor the KGB could do it... We are now hack-able animals."

"never allow a good crisis to go to waste"

"this would be the best way to undermine the Putin regime and the Putin was machine"

"Humans are hack-able animals. The whole idea that humans have this soul or spirit and they have this free will and nobody knows what is happening inside me. So whatever I choose, whether in the election or whether in the supermarket, this is my free will. Those days are over."

Now you you know why the western world has moved lockstep, first with the coronavirus to 'soften the populace up' by making them compliant, followed by an almost universal acquiescence for support for the completely undemocratic regime in Ukraine in the engineered war against Putin's Russia.

Take note that Putin's actions, in themselves, did not affect global supply of affordable energy, food or the production of food. It was the west's RESPONSE to his valid response to the US, UK and EU real threat to the lives of millions of ethnic Russians in Ukraine. His hand was deliberately forced.

The end game of these diabolical actions is population reduction. The WEF is attempting to reduce the world population through pestilence, war and eventual starvation.

I'd like to introduce the works of Mathew Ehret, who argues against the Malthusian myth that has become so prevalent today.

[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=awKzizY8f28]

[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEPO2DbPNyQ]

(Note: I had wanted to do a C99% diary along these lines but due to my Broca's Aphasia from a stroke a year ago I find it very difficult to 'find' my words)

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@CB

(Note: I had wanted to do a C99% diary along these lines but due to my Broca's Aphasia from a stroke a year ago I find it very difficult to 'find' my words)

Write it up, publish it, my friend.

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...in fact almost afternoon. I've been out dragging brush from a recent wind storm to the burn pile. This time of year the earlier you're out and about the better. Just now getting toward 90.
Yesterday had a groundhog come in under the gate and eat a few things. Managed to block it so it couldn't get in and was delighted to see we survived the night with no damage. Hopefully that will be a continuing trend. I've got a 9' fence to keep out deer and a single strand of electric around the base...except at the gates where I've buried the wire. So perhaps it is problem solved. Always something.

We've had lots of tomatoes this year. Put up some yesterday. We grow several varieties, but Cherokee purples are my favorite...deep dark red.

As to the Great Reset, I'm hopeful Mr Putin has at least put some sand in the gears. In terms of the US, we've been in decline since the 60's IMO. Now were picking up speed as we slide into collapse. Robot machine guns speak volumes about our decline. I try to focus on our place and let the world progress as it will. After all there's nought I can do about it.

Thanks for the OT and the ponderings.

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“Until justice rolls down like water and righteousness like a mighty stream.”

@Lookout
I had put in a large garden, my first attempt here in Texas, much different than growing in Illinois.

I got it all planted just in time for a week long vacation to the hill country. I had everything to put up an 8' fence but didn't have time to erect it before we left. We got back to a decimated garden. Then the heat set in. I gave up for this year. Next year it's on like Donkey Kong with the deer. They have no idea how pugnacious I can be. I will prevail. [Stern look on a determined face.]

Pondering my ponderings much appreciated. Thanks man.

PS: We might be headed up your way this fall.

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Yes there have been fiction versions of robotic killers, but the robot dog is for real now. Seems it could not handle recoil when rifle was in short burst automatic. I am sure that will be fixed.

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@MrWebster
notice that it is operating on a flat surface as well but I'm sure, as you are about the stabilization, that will be overcome as well.

The real test will be when it moves over rough terrain and can focus enough to hit the target at the same time.

Maybe a dog bone filled with hydraulic fluid will stop it.

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to kill or otherwise oppress humanity, but can't cure cancer, or the common cold.
We suck.
Why comply with these bastards?

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@on the cusp

there is less money to be made from healthy people. It is much more profitable to keep them sick. The sicker, the better- the really desperate ones will completely strip their bank accounts to have a chance at prolonging their lives.

I've come to the conclusion that to succeed in business (especially in the health fields), one must be an utter sociopath at heart.

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Twice bitten, permanently shy.

@usefewersyllables when she found out I was healthy, absolutely no conditions, no medications, no pains, "Don't rub it in." I told her I was so sorry I could not provide her with an income stream. My bad.

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In case folks wondered and didn't know about the evolution of Fly Like an Eagle... It was My Dark Hour in 1969 - with Paul McCartney guesting on several instruments. Clearly Miller ripped himself off. Wink I quite liked the 'new' version too.

Remember that poster in the 70's or early 80's? It's hard to fly like an eagle when you are surrounded by a bunch of Turkeys.

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We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them.
Look deep into nature, and then you will understand everything better.
both - Albert Einstein

As of July 10th or so, Jackpine Radicals message board become inoperative. The landing page loaded, but all links to threads or individual posts would go directly to OOOOPS, This Page Does Not Exist. As of a week ago, the entire board went dark. No advisory of any kind went up and it appears to be gone for good.

No comment on the content of that board.

But it is not a jolly tale for a self-consciously "progressive" board to disappear without a trace.

Anybody know anybody who was a regular there?

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I cried when I wrote this song. Sue me if I play too long.

@fire with fire and several posters then came here. Several years ago. Hmmm...

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"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981

@on the cusp
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that it MIGHT have been a result of a particular post by one of the mods who is also a prolific and, it is fair to say, strident poster. The topic was about some transgender issue. I found the referenced comment and it had been posted seven days before the board shut down -- and there were no more posts from that person.

All of that is consistent with the speculation I heard. BTW, the person made it clear that this just a guess without anything to back it.

A small bummer.

Even though I am ta best an ambivalent friend of message boards, I hate to see any grassroots site come to a bad end.

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I cried when I wrote this song. Sue me if I play too long.

@fire with fire sudden, and I do mean sudden, pronoun/noun issues. Acceptance is one thing, changing language takes time. I feel sorry for little kids who have to bear some burden of identification at such a young age. Very cruel, imo.

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"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981

@fire with fire I was a regular at JPR and a moderator who stuck by the process of it getting intermittent problems, then looking like it was going down and then really going down in a hurry with no administrator willing to pull it back from that point.

JackpineRadical was then product of a group of progressive thinking citizens who were horrified by what had happened to Democratic Underground as its corporate underlings ran the site into a place we began to hate. JPR decided to exit stage left to a place where real discussion could flourish without "juries" to determine the fate of what happened to your post.

JPR was run by some pretty dedicated people who believed at the time in the direction taken by Bernie Sanders. It was a place sick and tired of corporatization of what used to be the Democratic party. Best of all, it allowed discussion of a much more responsible manner and was run by rules that stuck to a decent set of rules.

I was asked to join the moderators within the year and I did, only because the three people who took JPR into a respectable direction. And like so many things that reach a point of almost perfection, the site administrator took ill. It continued about 6 more months when the site administrator passed away. The moderators thinned out. There was no one left standing by in the wings to continue its function. It died an abrupt death of no one stepping in.

I could gather a few comments in the last week of the site by private messages that seeped through and about 3 or 4 of us have managed to reach out to each other in the hopes that another discussion board could match the ease of community therein.

That's why I'm here. It is because I seek a similar instrument of democracy that could match the ease of JackpineRadicals.

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@MrMickeysMom
If you'd like to write something up about JPR and publish it as an essay, I'll see to it that it gets promoted to the front page where it should get more eyeballs.

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@MrMickeysMom @MrMickeysMom @MrMickeysMom @MrMickeysMom @MrMickeysMom @MrMickeysMom @MrMickeysMom, first, I'm not sure if I'm replying in the right place; if not, apologies to all – this is where I end up when I hit the blue "Reply" button.

But just want to let you know, I'm here now, and also at CommunityForum (https://www.thecommunityforum.life ), hoping to rejoin my fellow former JPR's and other like-minded persons.

Thanks for your info re- what happened to JPR! I'm surprised that no one bothered to post any kind of announcement or goodbye.

Sites like JPR have played a vital role for me and I think many others during the last several years, both as aggregators of valuable information distorted or suppressed by the MSM and as forums for raising questions and engaging in civilized discussion. On countless occasions I've shared info found on JPR and similar forums with others (including my elected representatives), and I know they've found it helpful.

I hope we are all both aware of and prepared to resist the myriad forces and tactics being used to disrupt and destroy forums like these. And I'm deeply grateful to everyone who maintains and participates in them.

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There is no justice without a balance of power; and a balance of power requires a balance of knowledge.

@snot
and welcome to c99.

There's lots of help navigating c99 and other stuff in the FAQs. (Hover over the Navigation Button in the header to find the FAQs link.

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@snot

Your best bet is to log into the community content section of the site, click on recent comments, and you can see which discussions are topical at the moment. I think you will find many topics of interest there within. If something is important to you in a posting, just click reply, add your comments and hit reply. It will go to the top of the recent comments list, and us discussers will see it there. You can always edit your comments if you find something amiss (I do that a lot). A thoughtful comment will usually give you some feed back.

good luck

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Woman who lives alone at the edge of a national park the day may come when I take my engineering degree out to the barn and utilize those life skills to build one.
4 or 5 years ago I honestly never even worried about the door being locked. Since Covid became a thing I have lost 4 gates on my driveway to people who are strung out on drugs and homeless thinking they are going to move in and no one will notice. Police don’t really exist out here. I do call it in, sometimes they show up the same day. I had a gate built by a friend out of old train rails and some well casing filled with cement for posts. Now they ram the gate they wreck their car. Works for me. Sadly those cars are usually stolen though. The car theft rate in the 3 counties to the east across the water is up 275%. I am out of patience and empathy for this sort thing as is most everybody in the area. I can see a use for a gun dog to do night patrols around the farm if our society continues to decompose as it is.

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It got me to find this place, and to register.

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@Babel-17
glad to have you with us. And thanks for the kind words.

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