Navalny critique at Grayzone, best discussion I've seen.

KATYA KAZBEK, in an interview posted at the Grayzone, gives a description of Navalny and his promotion by western forces that I think may reach some Americans who have fallen for the false idolatry. I wish her criticism of Navalny were stronger, and I wish her support of Putin was more comprehensive, but I think she's good at pointing out the weakness in the Navalny myth. I have bolded the excerpts I find most important.

https://thegrayzone.com/2021/01/28/alexei-navalny-myth-wests-russian-opp...

Who is Alexei Navalny? Behind the myth of the West’s favorite Russian opposition figure9

ROYCE KURMELOVS AND KATYA KAZBK
JANUARY 28, 2021

Royce Kurmelovs: What is happening in Russia right now?

Katya Kazbek: Nothing fundamentally new is happening right now. A part of Russian society is unhappy with Putin and his government, but that’s been a constant throughout his 20-plus year term and, previously, throughout his predecessor Boris Yeltsin’s term. The grievances include corruption, low life quality, restricted freedoms and undemocratic elections. Additionally, in the last decade, since the previous wave of protests in the early 2010s, there had been some particular legislative measures, such as Putin amending the constitution to his advantage. There has been a tightening in the protest laws, which make protesting harder, even in single-person pickets, and the ramifications graver. But most importantly, 2019 was marked by the beginning of a sprawling pension reform project, which looks to raise the retirement age by five years and has caused a lot of outcry from the population.

... Meanwhile, a particular set of the general public is also concerned with the events surrounding investigative journalist and opposition figure Alexei Navalny. 

... In 2010, he received a scholarship from Yale’s World Fellows program, with graduates directly linked to the Maidan Revolution in Ukraine.

... In the 2019 regional elections, he launched the system called “Smart Elections,” where the goal was to take away as many votes from United Russia candidates by supporting anyone outside the party. It was lauded as a success by Navalny and his followers, while the leaders of Russia’s other two biggest parties, Communist Party of the Russian Federation (CPRF) and Liberal Democratic Party of Russia (LDPR), argue that it was their popularity that led to evident electoral shifts.

There are plans to use the system again this year in various elections. And of course, lately, Alexei Navalny has been in the headlines for his alleged poisoning with the nerve agent Novichok. It’s worth pointing out that according to liberal polls, the attitudes of Russians en masse to the poisoning and its implications differ significantly from the narrative in the western press: while to some people he remains obscure, and many stay neutral, people in general are more distrustful and wary of him than they are distrustful and wary of the Russian government or Putin personally. His popularity has indeed grown some in the wake of the alleged poisoning, as well as the calls he made relatively recently for direct stimulus measures to help citizens in the wake of COVID. However, it still tails that of Putin and even that of Vladimir Zhirinovsky, the leader of far-right LDPR.

...He started in the liberal, market-oriented party Yabloko but was kicked out for his nationalist views. He then created his movement “The People” aimed against illegal immigration and recorded blatantly xenophobic videos where he compared people from South Caucuses to dental cavities and migrants to cockroaches: one of these videos is still on his verified YouTube channel. 

... Basically, his politics adapt to whatever seems opportune, but that also doesn’t seem to help his cause. He is not Nazi enough for the ultra-right, too right-wing for leftists, spooks some liberals with his pro-gun stance and uncertain position on Crimea, which are both serious issues for them. He seems to only find full support in those who want to switch from Putin’s government by any means necessary and don’t really care about views or policies.

... Overall, in the last poll about the number of people trusting significant political figures taken in August 2020, he scored two per cent, in third place after Vladimir Putin’s comfortable 40 per cent and Vladimir Zhirinovsky’s four per cent.

... His support in Russia has been greatly exaggerated by the Western press.

... The whole idea of Putin being replaced with Navalny just seems like a reshuffling of the same old: a new pro-Western leader to replace the one who has strayed from NATO’s grasp, and a different set of oligarchs and capitalists taking the reigns. But even if people were eager for this shuffle, Putin has something that Navalny doesn’t: a factual track record as the country’s leader. And even if this record is indeed marred deeply with corruption, trespasses, and things that many find unpalatable, life under Putin has improved as compared to the impoverished 90s...

RK: What do those outside Russia need to know about the situation?

KK: I want everyone to realize that the overwhelming majority of western journalists are busy communicating their own narrative, which does not have anything to do with the real situation on the ground; however, it too often reflects the opinions of State Departments of NATO countries.

... The biggest myth about Russia is that Putin is some off-the-charts dictator, Russia is an absolute hellhole, and that his only opposition is Navalny, who is being prevented from elections and poisoned. Careful investigation into the material circumstances of people in Russia will show that while the country is poor, it has improved since the 90s. It isn’t a liberal paradise, for sure, but having tirelessly compared it to the US where I’ve been working in the past few years, I have to say while nothing about Russia is performatively woke, the foundations set in place by the Soviet Union remain quite firm...

The more significant problems that Russia struggles with are Putin’s weaponization of the orthodox church and nationalism, the domestic violence surges and decriminalization of them, and the economy, of course, especially in the COVID era and with the pension reform in full swing. But I firmly believe we Russians can solve those internally and don’t need any interference from the West. Moreover, the West should get rid of the white savior syndrome and allow Russians to choose their leader themselves. According to polls, right now, it is Putin. I’m not a fan, but I don’t feel like I have the moral high ground to tell most of my compatriots they lack the agency to make this choice for themselves.

Moreover, as someone who has worked as an election observer during a presidential election, I can say that even in Moscow, he wins by a margin, fair and square. Meanwhile, his most significant opposition is not Navalny, as one can gather from the poll figures. The real opposition party, CPRF, holds a sizeable presence in the Duma. And while overall it is quite reactionary for my personal taste and tends to sometimes fall in line with Putin, it exists; it’s big. Those on the left can build towards socialism from within it, which numerous politicians have done, as they became Duma members, mayors, governors or form their coalitions that splinter off CPRF in less reactionary formations that have some promising members, like the Russian United Labour Front movement. All of this is something I can not even imagine in the United States, where the socialist parties are small, fringe, and not present in the Congress, and self-proclaimed socialist politicians would rate as centrists elsewhere.

So whenever you hear something about Russia, please consider what vested interests there may be in that opinion, who is telling you these things, and why. And just in general, whenever you’re interested, try to talk to actual people within Russia, preferably its regions, and not the pundits who get paid for pitting Navalny against Putin.

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mimi's picture

at all, my guts tell me. And my guts don't lie.

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Pricknick's picture

I've learned to hate anybody our useless government promotes.

The Biden administration on Wednesday reaffirmed U.S. recognition of opposition leader Juan Guaido as Venezuela’s legitimate president and ruled out negotiations anytime soon with President Nicolas Maduro, branding him a “dictator” and calling for free and fair elections.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-venezuela/u-s-reaffirms-support-f...

I also hate my current government.

Yesterday President Joe Biden gave an aggressive (and stupid) pep talk at the State Department in which he also bashed Russia:
I made it clear to President Putin, in a manner very different from my predecessor, that the days of the United States rolling over in the face of Russia’s aggressive actions — interfering with our elections, cyberattacks, poisoning its citizens — are over. We will not hesitate to raise the cost on Russia and defend our vital interests and our people. And we will be more effective in dealing with Russia when we work in coalition and coordination with other like-minded partners.
https://www.moonofalabama.org/

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Regardless of the path in life I chose, I realize it's always forward, never straight.

as the most deadly poison ever didn't kill him?
My brief visit to Russia was enlightening. I met, spoke with the people.
Every one of them expressed the views you present.
I remember describing their adherence to Russian Orthodox as militant, but accepted it their way of getting back at Stalin.

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"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981

For example in no particular order it does not seem coincidental. There is Nicaragua, Venezuela, Ukraine, Belarus, Bolivia, Syria and many others including Russia. I am no expert but it tells me that these situations are not above board.

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after he was doctored back to health in Germany after his poisoning?

In the end I don't care about anything anymore, but id doesn't seem the sanest idea to return to Russia for him.

What do I know and what do I understand? Nada, luckily. I don't want to know. He seems to be a loose cannon.

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Lookout's picture

Caught on tape....
[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k227KvKFYN8]

That means CIA is also a likely participant.

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“Until justice rolls down like water and righteousness like a mighty stream.”

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Who was this Navalny guy before he went to Yale? Yale...Bush, Clinton, Kerry. And his daugher goes to Stanford, as in Condoleeza Rice think tank.

I see, in his wiki biography, he was involved in politics before Yale but there's this funny feeling that he got groomed there.

Let's imagine that an American junior politico received some special education in Russia, came back to the United States loudly talking about changing the government, sent his kid to Moscow State University. Would he be well received in the U.S.? Somehow I doubt it.

My darling wife discussed her feelings about Navalny on facebook and was taken to task for it. I was going to reply until I saw (in the comment) "Putin's Orangeman" and realized there was way too much heavy lifting needed.

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MI6, CIA, USAID special ops fomenting insurrections.

In subsaharan africa, it's AFRICOM, creating internal rebellions so US leaders can set-up puppet regimes for resource grabs.

and once again, navalny was allegedly poisoned by...Novichok?

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Alexei Navalny is to Russia what __________________ is to the United States.

A perfect corollary is impossible; so, a bit of fudging should be okay. Elements:
1) BA/BS law
2) finance studies
3) scholarship at foreign university fellows program
4) affiliated with several political parties. resigned and/or ousted from at least one
5) opposition to existing Russian government
6) formed new political parties (ballot access issues)
7) candidate for Mayor of Moscow 2013 - polled 2nd
8) politically oriented towards free market capitalism
9) white nationalist
10) pro-gun
11) financial irregularity charges
12) funded by foreign entities
13) associated with Pussy Riot

There must be someone similar in the US but I've drawn a blank.

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