Kerch Provocation: Causes and Consequences

http://thesaker.is/kerch-provocation-causes-and-consequences/
Since this seems to have blown up in the last 24 hrs, and I'd seen this a day(or two) ago while spending sleepless nights with an ailing dog, it seemed fitting to post this with the info it contains; backstory, motivations, etc.
A taste; "Important note: this article was written before Russia had to use force to stop the Ukronazi intruders who, by the way, claim that they opened fire against the Russian ships."
Hah! One of the Ukies was shot by his commanding officer for NOT opening fire on the FSB! This shit just gets better and better, front row seat for the End of the World.
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Pricknick's picture

how armchair quarterbacks (warmongers), are saying we need to send the sixth fleet in.

Some U.S. hawks even want NATO ships to enter the Sea of Azov. The Sea of Azov has a maximum depth of 7 meters. Typical U.S. frigates have a draft of 10+ meters. What NATO or U.S. ship could even go there?
https://www.moonofalabama.org/

I've traveled many sites, not just for information, but for the remarks.
This nation is always ready for a "NEW" war.

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Regardless of the path in life I chose, I realize it's always forward, never straight.

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@Pricknick @Pricknick Maximum depth is 14 meters. The strait has a maximum depth of 15 meters. The bays have an average depth of 1.5 meters and it gets deeper as you go towards the center of the sea.

An Arleigh Burke-class destroyer has a draft of 9 meters. The Oliver Hazard Perry-class frigate had a draft of 6.7 meters, but we got rid of all of those and never replaced them...The LCS (Little crappy ships) can't operate independently.

The whole idea is moot anyway, it's a Russian lake and nothing is going to change that. Anyone who thinks otherwise couldn't even find the Sea of Azov on a map...

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" In the beginning, the universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry, and is generally considered to have been a bad move. -- Douglas Adams, The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy "

Big Al's picture

Here's the unbearably irritating talking head Haley telling lies for her boss Donald Trump.

[video:https://youtu.be/gEj3Qa3K-Sc]

From what I've read, Russia was within legal rights to take action however if you listen to Haley they weren't. She also continued to claim Russia is occupying Crimea.

I really hadn't listened to her speak much at all, and watching the video makes me wonder how the hell anyone would support her for president. She's fucking delusional.

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@Big Al
within their rights.
Current law says it is so.

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@Pricknick Israel's occupation of the Golan Heights. Then I thot of Haley and how much of a Zionist pig she is, fully supporting Israeli apartheid. Yet she can spout this bullshit about Russia and Crimea with a straight face.
The lies and propaganda are so obvious it's sickening.
I place this on Trump too, she works for him.

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@Big Al
on how many presidents?
Trump is only as responsible as past presidents.
What is your count of past presidential war criminals? Inquiring minds wish to know.

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Big Al's picture

@Pricknick I'm on a little tangent about Trump, kind of like how I was with Obama, in trying counter the what I feel is absurd talk about what he's trying to do but is hindered by the deep state.

An example tonight, Paul Craig Roberts, again.

"Washington and its presstitutes are doing everything they can to make impossible Trump’s expressed goal of normal relations with Russia."

I can't believe PCR is still holding to that delusion.

Then he says this:
"As President Trump’s crazed UN ambassador Nikki Haley said, “we take names.”

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/50665.htm

I just don't get that.

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@Big Al

It sometimes seems that Russia and China are more focused on gaining wealth than they are on national survival.

Just why the fuck are they exceeding at development of defensive weapons? Seems to me they are spending wisely on survival. Besides that, they are no match for the greedy bastards we have.

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@Big Al some talking head talk about Woodward's book on Trump the other day.

He said that the book is not critical as painted by the MSM, but says that a lot of the staffers in the WH opposed much of Trump's agenda, including his position on non-intervention. A lot of the original staffers that are now gone did not support his agenda. And according to this 2nd hand account of the book, there are still some staffers who oppose his agenda.

I would think it would be difficult for Trump to find experienced staff that wasn't already supporting the usual policies supported by dems and repubs. Both sides oppose his trade policies and the notion of non-intervention.

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dfarrah

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@dfarrah show he's just as pro-imperialism and pro-Israel as anyone. I and others were pointing that out before he was even elected.

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@Big Al but I don't know when her last day is.

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dfarrah

@dfarrah abject loon follows her.

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Only a fool lets someone else tell him who his enemy is. Assata Shakur

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to be an excuse to neuter the coming election in Ukraine by declaring martial law.
Sorry to hear about your dog getting sick. Hoping for a full recovery.
Beautiful dog.

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Neither Russia nor China is our enemy.
Neither Iran nor Venezuela are threatening America.
Cuba is a dead horse, stop beating it.

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@earthling1 .
That one didn't need a snark tag.

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@earthling1 he should do alright if I can keep him off that leg.

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Ya got to be a Spirit, cain't be no Ghost. . .

Explain Bldg #7. . . still waiting. . .

If you’ve ever wondered whether you would have complied in 1930’s Germany,
Now you know. . .
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My thesis "The Band-aid Principle" states that just as it's less painful to rip a band-aid off with one swift pull, so is it less painful that we peons end in a blinding flash of nuclear annihilation than to continue suffering the slow rip of police abuse, mass shooting rampages, terrorism, endless war, and climate change.

So hip-hip-hooray for the war-mongering Russia-phobes happily pushing the world as we know it to its blazing finale!

/s

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