Is Joe Lieberman's terrifying nightmare coming true?

Back in 2016, right after the election, former Sen. Joe Lieberman gave what he probably considered a dire warning.

To the Democratic Party in particular, which not only failed to regain either chamber of Congress but also lost the White House, Leiberman said he thinks there will be a "real attempt by the left-left" to take command of the party.
"It's not the party I worked so hard for when Bill Clinton was president," Lieberman said on John Catsimatidis' radio show "The Cats Roundtable."

How terrifying! Dirty commie lefty hippies!
What's happening to Clinton's neoliberal party?

It turns out that Lieberman's nightmare is beginning to come to pass.
So in response, in order to save the Democratic Party, Lieberman wrote an op-ed in the anti-Dem WallStreetJournal, calling for the defeat of the Democratic Party candidate.

"Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez’s surprise primary victory over Rep. Joe Crowley seems likely to hurt Congress, America and the Democratic Party. It doesn’t have to," Lieberman wrote in an op-ed published Tuesday in The Wall Street Journal.

"Because the policies Ms. Ocasio-Cortez advocates are so far from the mainstream, her election in November would make it harder for Congress to stop fighting and start fixing problems."

Lieberman noted that Crowley's name will still be on the ballot as the nominee of the Working Families Party.

“Thanks to a small percentage of primary votes, all of the people of New York’s 14th Congressional District stand to lose a very effective representative in Washington,” Lieberman wrote. “Fortunately, Joe Crowley and the voters in his district can prevent this damage.”

Lieberman's concern for the Democratic Party didn't extend to 2008, when he endorsed McCain.
The former Democratic veep candidate beat Democratic primary winner Lamont in 2006 in no small part by becoming the de facto candidate of the state’s Republican Party.

Lieberman then went on Fox News to double-down on his stand against progressive values.

"When I see somebody who really says she's a socialist -- she's a very captivating, charismatic candidate -- when you look at those policies, those policies will not be supported in many places across America," former Sen. Joe Lieberman told Fox News.

"If her win makes her into what Kellyanne Conway called the new face of the Democratic Party, the Democratic Party's not going to have a very bright future," Lieberman said.

To Crowley's credit, he tweeted back a three word response to Lieberman.

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DKos really, really hates Tulsi Gabbard.

Meanwhile, Tulsi don't give a f*ck.
Here's some recent headlines.

Rep. Tulsi Gabbard Urges Congress To Oppose Authorization for War Against Iran

Walter Jones, Tulsi Gabbard say undeclared war should be impeachable offense

Civil Beat Poll: Tulsi Gabbard Is Hawaii’s Most Popular Politician

U.S. Rep. Tulsi Gabbard has the highest approval rating among Hawaii’s top leaders, according to the Civil Beat Poll.

In a survey of voters statewide, 61 percent said they have a positive opinion of the congresswoman.

She is viewed even more positively (69 percent) by the voters of the 2nd Congressional District, which Gabbard has represented since January 2013.

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@gjohnsit Even more than they hate Tim Canova, for daring to challenge Their Debbie. And Bernie Sanders--because somehow he mind controlled thousands of Obama voters into voting for the fascist Donald Trump. In fact, you can get swarmed by bees just for criticizing Joe Manchin--because his vote for child-snatcher Jeff Sessions makes him a political genius because of the magic "D" after his name.

I suspect they don't hate Tulsi Gabbard for any of the reasons they gave (She did oppose same sex marriage in 2004, but so did Obama in 2008, and they both evolved on this issue in following years). They just have a beef with her questioning Queen Debbie's decision to limit the debates in the 2016 primary, and her support for eliminating "superdelegates," which by their very name reject democracy.

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"If her win makes her into what Kellyanne Conway called the new face of the Democratic Party, the Democratic Party's not going to have a very bright future," Lieberman said.

As opposed to the great success of the Democratic Party in 2010, 2012, 2014 and 2016?

Lieberman defeated Lamont, himself a corporate Dem, because"

1. The incumbent advantage.

2. Republicans fell just short of campaigning against the Republikcan candidate.

3. High-profile Democrats, such as Obama and Hillary, shredded Lamont during the primary, in an effort to help Lieberman defeat Lamont, then did not give Lamont full-throated, high visibility support during the general. (Democrats are hostile to primary challengers.) To repay Democrats, Lieberman went on the campaign trail in favor of McCain and against Obama, who won handily despite Lieberman's betrayal.

Oh, and honest people don't typically refer to a clear majority of primary votes as "a small percentage of primary votes."

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Second thought was Judas Iscariot.

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So "Joe" aint running. But because NY is so f'd up he's still on the ballot with the Family Friendly crap.

"So, I can run and not run but I'm not running and my name is still on the ballot but I'm not an election whore and wouldn't f things up for our new Dem Darling. Really. Believe me. I was only gonna be the next Speaker, but I've moved on... "

Sherlock?

"Once you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, no matter how improbable, must be the truth." -

The siren call of Truth...

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@EdMass Big surprise.

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for the Librul party
@EdMass
here in the northeast (if not the rest of the country).
Or at least the Dem version of the Independent party.
And, where the Green party fails here, epically, the WFP grows.

We have the exact same thing here in NY-21.
One of the Primary candidates (who lost) finds herself still on the WFP line.
Nothing she can do about it. It is a state thing, not a party thing. So, Joe Crowley couldn't remove himself from the ballot even if he wanted to.
Sucks, but blame the state, not the party.

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Actually he could. All it would take is for him to change his voter's registration from New York to Virginia, where he's owned a home for the past 14 years and where he, his wife and kids live.

But he doesn't want to "move" from New York.

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way of voting Democrat. Oh, and the very few exceptions of which I am aware involved the WFP running the Republican candidate instead of the Democrat.

Intentionally or not, the WFP has served as the political party equivalent of a stalking horse or sheep dog candidate.

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the WFP is a way
@HenryAWallace
for them to vote for the Dimocrat without voting for the party.
Or as I said, "Or at least the Dem version of the Independent party."
"We" are actually in the process of creating yet another Independent party here in NY for the very same reason: knowing that the yutes, the millennials, aren't registering for either party.
So, instead of "where ya gonna go?!!" we're giving them a place to go.
And, yes, the Dimocrat is expected to run on that line (in 2020) along with the Dim line (for older voters), and WFP line for whatever. So, yeah, I guess one could call that sheep herding. I call it survival. Becuz to do otherwise gives yet another Congress seat contest to the Repubs. And while some would say, "what's the difference?" I would answer, "until ya got sumpthin' better... "

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him or her via the Democratic ticket or the WFP ticket.

Also, you always vote for a candidate, never for a party per se. Therefore, the WFP is not giving anyone another "place" to go, just another way of voting Democrat--a classic example of a distinction without a difference.

Obviously, I am among the some who would say "What's the difference?" between the Demlicans and the Republicrats; and, I think the Green Party is far better than both.

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as Greens in terms
@HenryAWallace
of "party status." Both are parties, and at least in NY you need a certain percentage of votes to remain one. So... in one sense, at least, one indeed is voting for a party (as well as a candidate). Otherwise why would candidates seek running on various party lines? And, if enough voters voted on the WFP line instead of the Dim line, the Dim party in NY would cease to be. Exaggerated example but true. So, WFP is as relevant as Greens or any other 3rd party - and more relevant in my opinion.

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@EdMass That is a fucking wonderful video. Thank you.

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. . . to watch the WSJ make its push against AOC. They've started with Lieberman, and even they have to know he's not one to deliver a home run. So who's next? One would think they'd have mapped out a string of bigwigs to take their shots at the candidate. I'm betting Hillary's on tap for the clean-up, so who comes in between?

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@dance you monster Maybe not direct attacks like Lieberman, but a counter to this "democratic socialism" shit we have been hearing.

“I am a capitalist to my bones,” Sen. Warren tells New England Council, one of several instances this morning where she’s highlighted her belief in capitalism and markets while talking bankruptcy policy."

This was like 2-3 days ago. Sorta surprising not sure what prompted repeated assurances she was a capitalist down to her bones.

Schumer for her comments about the Palestinians getting killed.

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@MrWebster

Warren should be called the Empty Dress senator. Sure she gives fire and brimstone speeches that make the bank CEOs quiver in their boots, but nothing comes from them. She votes with the democrats on just about every bill that both parties want passed, she voted to confirm most of Trump's cabinet picks including the brain dead Ben Carson.

But now that she has admitted that she is a capitalist it makes sense that she didn't endorse Bernie during the primary. Never forget that she used to be a republican before she decided that she looks better as a democrat. She has company as a capitalist. Pelosi said that she is one too. Guess that's something to be proud of.

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Warren's speeches. Unlike many voters, bankers understand the difference between a public position and a private position. They understand that Warren is a Senator from Massachusetts, so she has to speak, at a minimum, "left-ish." However, they also know that not a single bill she has authored has become law.

Oh, and....

Warren voted as a Republican for many years, saying, "I was a Republican because I thought that those were the people who best supported markets".[25] According to Warren, she began to vote Democratic in 1995 because she no longer believed that to be true, but she states that she has voted for both parties because she believed that neither party should dominate.[59]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elizabeth_Warren

And this is the person the Democratic Caucus chose to be its liaison to the left!
Which, of course, begs the question: If Democrats are the left, why do they themselves believe that they need a liaison to the left?

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@MrWebster Possibly Kamala. Have we heard much from her lately?

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this word "mainstream" ... you keep using this word, I do not think it means what you think it means.

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@WoodsDweller This Lieberman...he can fuss.

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Sizzling hot take from Joe Lieberman, the man who gave us the eternal gift of crowdfunded cancer treatment

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@dkmich LMAO

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The issue is patriotism. You've got to get back to your planet and stop the Commies. All it takes is a few good men.
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