Jimmy Dore's Epic Smackdown of Markos

This is so beautiful that it stands by itself.

Specifically it starts 5 minutes in, until 9 minutes, and then he goes back at him at the 12 minute mark.

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Mark from Queens's picture

From "Consistency,"

This infamous doctrine of allegiance to party plays directly into the hands of politicians of the baser sort — and doubtless for that it was borrowed — or stolen — from the monarchial system. It enables them to foist upon the country officials whom no self-respecting man would vote for if he could but come to understand that loyalty to himself is his first and highest duty, not loyalty to any party name...

This is a funny business all around. The same men who enthusiastically preach loyal consistency to church and party are always ready and willing and anxious to persuade a Chinaman or an Indian or a Kanaka to desert his church or a fellow-American to desert his party. The man who deserts to them is all that is high and pure and beautiful — apparently; the man who deserts from them is all that is foul and despicable. This is Consistency — with a capital C.

110% dead on, even for today's politics. Particularly the farce of the 2016 election, in which, for those whose eyes have been opened by it, stands to become the force necessary to overthrow the duopoly.

Fuck the pestilent Neoliberal cesspool of Daily Kos, and its party Loyalists.

This isn't a sports game of my team vs. your team. The MSM obliges this facade by running non-stop, red herring distraction and breathless horse race non-sense, and all the lemmings follow suit and line up to buy the jerseys.

It's the 99% vs the 1%.

The most important thing, to my mind? Get people to stop watching and reading the MSM.

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"If I should ever die, God forbid, let this be my epitaph:

THE ONLY PROOF HE NEEDED
FOR THE EXISTENCE OF GOD
WAS MUSIC"

- Kurt Vonnegut

...hatred of Markos

Since the election, leftists and conservatives have also seen eye to eye when it comes to denouncing liberals like Markos Moulitsas, the founder of liberal website Daily Kos, who gleefully cheered when it was reported earlier this year that people in red states would be disproportionately hurt by Trumpcare....
Liberals like Moulitsas have almost become caricatures of the smug and unsympathetic liberal elite that right-wingers have long depicted; it’s as if liberals have gradually come to adopt the ridiculous qualities that Republicans have assigned to them over the years. Which brings us to an important point: Leftists haven’t suddenly jumped on the liberal-bashing bandwagon because it’s the hip thing to do in the age of Trump, but because many self-described liberals have become the obnoxious and out-of-touch liberal elite that conservatives have long claimed them to be, while simultaneously shifting toward the right on various economic issues. (To be fair, obviously the right doesn’t see it this way.) Saval touches on this in his Times Magazine essay, observing that to call someone a liberal today “is often to denounce him or her as having abandoned liberalism.”

Markos is bringing people of the right and left together with a common object of hatred.

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@gjohnsit I don't think it all the time, but there are times that I do about Markos and his ilk. Hillbots. SJW too. Focus on shit you might only have a hope in maybe mitigating with those around you, ignore the big picture that got us here. Libtard fits there.

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Only a fool lets someone else tell him who his enemy is. Assata Shakur

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"Religion is what keeps the poor from murdering the rich."--Napoleon

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@dkmich

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Do I hear the sound of guillotines being constructed?

“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~ President John F. Kennedy

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TPW. I'm not familiar with Dore, but plan on giving him a listen one of these days. As far as Markos Moulitsas goes, quit calling him 'liberal' cos he ain't! He never has been. He's a YUPPIE Repukelican who was in the right time and place with launching a blog. Read his bio. It's an insult to real American Lefties and Liberals, and we're still around. Rec'd!!

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Inner and Outer Space: the Final Frontiers.

@orlbucfan along with many other sites, have made Liberal a dirty word. Damn them but hey, we can find another moniker. I was thinking about that Dirt Bag Left thing. I kinda like that, LOL.

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Only a fool lets someone else tell him who his enemy is. Assata Shakur

thanatokephaloides's picture

@orlbucfan

This also has just been posted as a thread on TPW.

Toilet Paper World? /snark

Srsly: TPW? What is it? Inquiring c99ers want to know! Smile

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"US govt/military = bad. Russian govt/military = bad. Any politician wanting power = bad. Anyone wielding power = bad." --Shahryar

"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides

@thanatokephaloides The Progressive Wing, a site started by Leipar Destin.

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"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981

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@on the cusp

The Progressive Wing, a site started by Leipar Destin.

Thank you! Smile

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"US govt/military = bad. Russian govt/military = bad. Any politician wanting power = bad. Anyone wielding power = bad." --Shahryar

"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides

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@orlbucfan

As far as Markos Moulitsas goes, quit calling him 'liberal' cos he ain't! He never has been. He's a YUPPIE Repukelican who was in the right time and place with launching a blog. Read his bio. It's an insult to real American Lefties and Liberals, and we're still around.

YUPPIE Repukelican.

No wonder he's so in love with Perpetual Goldwater Girl Hillary Clinton!

Now, for the puke part, I'm tempted to do just that right now!

Wink

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"US govt/military = bad. Russian govt/military = bad. Any politician wanting power = bad. Anyone wielding power = bad." --Shahryar

"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides

@thanatokephaloides Check the blog roll link at the bottom of the page. The first entry is The Progressive Wing, started by Liepar Destin from TOP. He produced the relentlessly upbeat, civil, and informative Bernie News Roundup every morning for a year in the face of extreme establishment pushback.

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k9disc's picture

stuff in my social circle on FB because he's TOO spot on.

Not sure if my Democratic Party friends could handle it. Everyone else, I wouldn't care about, because what's another political opinion. But for party faithful Democrats, I think he really cuts to the bone.

@orlbucfan

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“Tactics without strategy is the noise before defeat.” ~ Sun Tzu

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I wrote a Diary on TOP back in early 2016, before the Ides mandate, saying, "Markos, you're backing the wrong horse."
The 2016 spanking didn't teach him a thing. They are going to be So shocked again should "They" nominate another neolib as the party presidential nominee. Shocked that they not only lost to tiny hands (or Pence) again, but that those DNC calls for $$ fall on deaf ears.

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@gjohnsit @gjohnsit
"Shame them." True, they have no shame, and couldn't care less if they're being shamed or not. But, others will notice. And note. We need more elected Dems say "shame on you!" every time a Republicon opens his or her mouth.

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@gjohnsit

Survivaball is a classic.

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The current working assumption appears to be that our Shroedinger's Cat system is still alive. But what if we all suspect it's not, and the real problem is we just can't bring ourselves to open the box?

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"The “jumpers” reminded us that one day we will all face only one choice and that is how we will die, not how we will live." Chris Hedges on 9/11

Mark from Queens's picture

@gjohnsit
If you haven't seen their film yet, you must.

The Yes Men have done some of the most audacious pranks in the name of righteousness, since Abbie Hoffman and the Yippies.

Kick-ass segment. Andy actually got on a panel posing as a Dem operative to discuss the ways the party must move forward, but did it as if he were a member of C99 or something.

Amazing and inspiring tenacity. There's a special place in heaven for folks like these, if you believe in that sort of thing (you know what I mean).

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"If I should ever die, God forbid, let this be my epitaph:

THE ONLY PROOF HE NEEDED
FOR THE EXISTENCE OF GOD
WAS MUSIC"

- Kurt Vonnegut

call it good!

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k9disc's picture

Nobody in the Establishment wants Jimmy Dore to get eyeballs or a megaphone.

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“Tactics without strategy is the noise before defeat.” ~ Sun Tzu

Mark from Queens's picture

@k9disc
sharp and caustic talk show host, who sees right through the fraud and complicity of the duopoly and the pathetic DNC, and eviscerates them with the precision of a surgeon.

Comedians, humorists, etc have been the lifeline to Truth throughout the ages. From Voltaire to Swift to Twain to Lenny Bruce to Richard Pryor to George Carlin to Bill Hicks, to Lee Camp and Jimmy Dore today, the Powers That Be definitely don't want to be in their crosshairs.

Hail! Hail! Jimmy Dore!

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"If I should ever die, God forbid, let this be my epitaph:

THE ONLY PROOF HE NEEDED
FOR THE EXISTENCE OF GOD
WAS MUSIC"

- Kurt Vonnegut

Alligator Ed's picture

In fine print inside the main tweet is a comment that Kamala Harris is still viewed with doubt by Progressives. Ain't that the truth. Obama with tits. She'll fuck her way to the top, either by fucking the more influential ( = rich donors) or by fucking the 99% (who won't enjoy the treatment, I gaurantee).

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@Alligator Ed I guess they figured since calling us sexist didn't shame us into voting for Her, they'll get someone whose identity politics bingo card is a little fuller and attack on more fronts.

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Idolizing a politician is like believing the stripper really likes you.

reflectionsv37's picture

That certainly made my day complete!!! I loved every minute of it!

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“Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we.”
George W. Bush

WaterLily's picture

Is a fucking loser!!

(I thought that bore repeating. Also, it feels cathartic to type).

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