How to keep sending boys to die in the “graveyard of empires”

Defense Secretary Jim Mattis testified before the Senate Armed Services Committee today.

"We are not winning in Afghanistan right now. And we will correct this as soon as possible," Mattis said in testimony to the Senate Armed Services Committee. Mattis acknowledged that he believed the Taliban were "surging" at the moment, something he said he intended to address.

When you aren't winning, you are losing.
2,300 boys have died in Afghanistan so far. Many more will die if Mattis gets his way.

The Afghan government was assessed by the U.S. military to control or influence just 59.7 percent of Afghanistan's 407 districts as of Feb. 20, a nearly 11 percentage-point decrease from the same time in 2016, according to data released by the U.S. Special Inspector General for Afghanistan Reconstruction.
...In the first eight months of 2016, Afghan forces suffered 15,000 casualties including more than 5,000 killed.
Civilian deaths are also at record highs, according to the U.N. Assistance Mission to Afghanistan, which began tracking the deaths in 2009.

Obviously the solution is an Afghan Surge, because no one has ever thought of that before.
Not the British. Not the Soviets. And certainly not Obama.

Barack Obama will end months of uncertainty over his Afghanistan policy when he announces tonight that he is to deploy 30,000 troops from the marines and army, in a last-ditch attempt to prevent the war being lost.

It looks like Trump will dig another last ditch.

In a rare bit of actual journalism from the Washington Post, they summed up the situation with The U.S. will never win the war in Afghanistan.

The war has now cost us over $1 trillion, making it the second-costliest U.S. war, after World War II. In fiscal year 2017, the war will cost about $50 billion, nearly a billion every week. We’ve lost over 2,350 soldiers, with 20,000 more suffering injuries. And as Trevor Timm of the Guardian noted, in a couple of years, there will be soldiers fighting in Afghanistan that weren’t even born at the time of 9/11.
We’re no longer fighting to defeat an enemy; we’re engaged in “nation-building.” Good luck with that....It remains one of the poorest nations in the world, despite more than $117 billion in U.S. development appropriations since 2002...Despite the aid and the opium profits, Afghanistan is still near the bottom of multiple categories in the United Nations’ Human Development Index, ranging from infant mortality to life expectancy, per capita income and more.
The United States is pouring money into a corrupt sewer. The World Justice Project’s 2016 Rule of Law Index ranked Afghanistan 111 of 113 countries assessed...
We are asking our military to build a nation on the other side of the world, dispatching soldiers who don’t know the language, the culture, the religion, the ethnic and sectarian divisions or the history. The one thing that may unify Afghanistan’s tribes is their pride in their independence. Afghanistan is known as the “graveyard of empires.”

You couldn't ask for a more hopeless situation.
Well, you could include one more element.

A new United Nations survey says the total area under opium poppy cultivation in Afghanistan has increased by 10 percent, from 183,000 to 201,000 hectares, compared to the previous year, leading to a significant rise in the production of illicit opium.
The report by the U.N. Office on Drugs and Crime (UNODC) says potential opium production was up 43 percent, reaching 4,800 tons in 2016.
“The cultivation provided labor for an estimated 235,100 full-time jobs in 2016, and the sales of opium poppy and derivatives constituted the main source of income of opium poppy farmers, accounting for up to 57 percent of the annual household income,” according to the UNODC.

We did this.

Share
up
0 users have voted.

Comments

Bollox Ref's picture

At least
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carry_On_Up_the_Khyber didn't involve death and destruction year after year.

up
0 users have voted.

Gëzuar!!
from a reasonably stable genius.

ggersh's picture

they don't want to win, they only want to control.

up
0 users have voted.

I never knew that the term "Never Again" only pertained to
those born Jewish

"Antisemite used to be someone who didn't like Jews
now it's someone who Jews don't like"

Heard from Margaret Kimberley

Wink's picture

@ggersh
of winning. If they "win," then they'd have to find an excuse for a new war. Russia? And, turns out there are just enough gung ho GI Joe wannabees to keep boots on the ground doing what they do.

up
0 users have voted.

the little things you can do are more valuable than the giant things you can't! - @thanatokephaloides. On Twitter @wink1radio. (-2.1) All about building progressive media.

thanatokephaloides's picture

@Wink @Wink

And, turns out there are just enough gung ho GI Joe wannabees to keep boots on the ground doing what they do.

Let's send them to Afghanistan instead! /s

Diablo

up
0 users have voted.

"US govt/military = bad. Russian govt/military = bad. Any politician wanting power = bad. Anyone wielding power = bad." --Shahryar

"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides

coloradoblue's picture

When you're wounded and left on Afghanistan's plains
and the women come out to cut up what remains
jest roll to your rifle and blow out your brains
and go to your gawd like a soldier

Rudyard Kipling on the British experience in Afghanistan

up
0 users have voted.

Dear Dems: You lost the WH, Senate, House, dozens of governors, state level SOS and AG and about 1,000 state legislative seats. Maybe...you're doing something wrong.

thanatokephaloides's picture

Actually, the core two problems -- Afghanistan's near total lack of genuinely arable lands and her lack of any worthwhile extractive resources, and her resultant economic addiction to opium poppy farming -- are far older than the United States is.

Afghanistan had those problems in days where no one in Europe, Asia, or Africa knew there were any such things as the Americas.

But we're blithely leaping into the same cesspit that the British, the Russians, the Macedonians, and the Mongols jumped into before us -- with the exact same results.

Gak! Bad

EDIT: This should not be taken to mean that Afghanistan is a cesspit. The attempts to conquer Afghanistan and wrest control of Afghanistan from her own people are the cesspit. My apologies for any confusion.

up
0 users have voted.

"US govt/military = bad. Russian govt/military = bad. Any politician wanting power = bad. Anyone wielding power = bad." --Shahryar

"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides

@thanatokephaloides
that Americans are very good at. We figure if something happened more than a month ago, we might as well go ahead and forget about it. I have to wonder if James Mattis is even vaguely aware of Afghanistan's history.

up
0 users have voted.

native

Citizen Of Earth's picture

in Afghanistan and the country is far worse off than when the war started. A smart person would get the fuck out and cut his loses. But this country has not had smart leaders for a long, long time. The MIC runs the USSA.

up
0 users have voted.

Donnie The #ShitHole Douchebag. Fake Friend to the Working Class. Real Asshole.

TheOtherMaven's picture

then have it made into the appropriate pharmaceuticals and dispensed on prescription? It'd cost a fuckton of a lot less, and we'd only have to worry about domestic "abuse" (which could be handled as a medical problem, FFS, instead of criminalizing everything and everyone in sight).

Naah, makes too much sense and cuts off the War Pigs' cash. Never happen. Aggressive

up
0 users have voted.

There is no justice. There can be no peace.

Lookout's picture

@TheOtherMaven

We already have done so and now opiate overdoses are the number one killer of people under 50 in the US. Looks like a pretty good correlation doesn't it?

up
0 users have voted.

“Until justice rolls down like water and righteousness like a mighty stream.”

More money, more limbs, and more bombs will surely fix that.

up
0 users have voted.

"Religion is what keeps the poor from murdering the rich."--Napoleon

its trillion dollars equally among Afghanistan's 35 million inhabitants, every man, woman and child in the country would have received approximately $30,000. I hope that math is fairly close. Anyway, I imagine $30K could go a long way in a place like Afghanistan.

Obviously it's just a thought experiment, but it does give an idea of the scale at which we've been throwing money into the place. With little or nothing to show for it.

up
0 users have voted.

native