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Carbon 'Bootprints'

Even if we each do everything we can to reduce our carbon footprint, it will not be enough - because of carbon emissions from the MIC. Just how much do the U.S military and supporting industries contribute to Global Warming?

First, what exactly is the U.S. military? It is run by the Chiefs of Staffs of the Navy, Air Force and Army, who report to the Secretary of Defense, who reports to the Commander in Chief. They are all a part of the Executive Branch of the U.S. government. Their 2018 budget is $700 billion. There are around 800 military bases worldwide, with approximately two million active troops. The U.S. military is the third largest military in the world after China and India.

And the Climate Change costs of the MIC are…

U.S. military:
• Production of military materiel (materials and equipment) and infrastructure and movement thereof
• War games
• Wars. How many are we still fighting? Obama launched airstrikes or raids in seven countries: Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Libya, Yemen, Somalia and Pakistan
• Oil production and transport are directly used and encouraged by the military’s constant needs
• Underground oil storage for supply in case there is a war

The production of military equipment for commercial arms sales also contributes to Climate Change.

Under DCS, PM’s Directorate of Defense Trade Controls provides regulatory approvals for more than $110 billion per year in sales of defense equipment, services, and related manufacturing technologies controlled under the 21 categories of the U.S. Munitions List (USML). These sales are negotiated privately between foreign end-users and U.S. companies.

The word Behemoth comes to mind…

The Pentagon’s Carbon Foot Print
Counterpunch December 2015

the Pentagon has been granted a unique exemption from reducing – or even reporting – its pollution. The U.S. won this prize during the 1998 Kyoto Protocol negotiations (COP4) after the Pentagon insisted on a ‘national security provision’ that would place its operations beyond global scrutiny or control.” [2]
So not only is the Pentagon exempt from any climate agreements, it is also exempt from having to reduce its own greenhouse gas emission levels and exempt even from reporting those levels.

As Sara Flounders had revealed: “The complete U.S. military exemption from greenhouse gas emissions calculations includes more than 1,000 U.S. bases in more than 130 countries around the world, its 6,000 facilities in the U.S., its aircraft carriers and jet aircraft. Also excluded are its weapons testing and all multilateral operations such as the giant U.S. commanded NATO military alliance and AFRICOM, the U.S. military alliance now blanketing Africa.”

Or maybe Godzilla…

Pentagon to lose emissions exemption under Paris climate deal
Guardian December 2015

The US military and armed forces of countries around the world will no longer be automatically exempted from emissions-cutting obligations under the UN Paris climate deal, the Guardian has learned.

Under the Paris agreement, countries would not be obliged to cut their military emissions but, equally, there would be no automatic exemption for them either.
US officials privately say that the deal adopted on Saturday has no provisions covering military compliance one way or another

The US military is widely thought to be the world’s biggest institutional consumer of crude oil, but its emissions reporting exemptions mean it is hard to be sure.

Balrog??? Gamera?

Pentagon Pollution, 7: The military assault on global climate
Climate & Capitalism February 2015

"The U.S. military is the single greatest institutional contributor to the growing natural disasters intensified by global climate change."

Correspondingly, militarism is the most oil-exhaustive activity on the planet, growing more so with faster, bigger, more fuel-guzzling planes, tanks and naval vessels employed in more intensive air and ground wars. At the outset of the Iraq war in March 2003, the Army estimated it would need more than 40 million gallons of gasoline for three weeks of combat, exceeding the total quantity used by all Allied forces in the four years of World War 1. Among the Army’s armamentarium were 2,000 staunch M-1 Abrams tanks fired up for the war and burning 250 gallons of fuel per hour.

The US Air Force (USAF) is the single largest consumer of jet fuel in the world. Fathom, if you can, the astronomical fuel usage of USAF fighter planes: the F-4 Phantom Fighter burns more than 1,600 gallons of jet fuel per hour and peaks at 14,400 gallons per hour at supersonic speeds. The B-52 Stratocruiser, with eight jet engines, guzzles 500 gallons per minute; ten minutes of flight uses as much fuel as the average driver does in one year of driving! A quarter of the world’s jet fuel feeds the USAF fleet of flying killing machines; in 2006, they consumed as much fuel as US planes did during the Second World War (1941-1945) — an astounding 2.6 billion gallons.

Maybe Ghidorah…

Is Climate the Worst Casualty of War?
Common Dreams July 2018

According to Steve Kretzmann, director of Oil Change International, “The Iraq war was responsible for at least 141 million metric tons of carbon dioxide equivalent (MMTCO2e) from March 2003 through December 2007.” That’s more CO2e than 60 percent of all countries, and those figures are only from the first four years. We downsized the war in December of 2011, but still haven’t left, so the U.S. invasion and 15 years of occupation has likely generated upwards of 400 million metric tons of CO2e to date.

The Beast Of Barmston Drain…

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Sooner than later…

Paul Beckwith

I declare a global climate change emergency to claw back up the rock face to attempt to regain system stability, or face an untenable calamity of biblical proportions.

me… We need to turn on a dime at mach 10.

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Arctic’s strongest sea ice breaks up for first time on record
The Guardian August 21, 2018

The oldest and thickest sea ice in the Arctic has started to break up, opening waters north of Greenland that are normally frozen, even in summer.

This phenomenon – which has never been recorded before – has occurred twice this year due to warm winds and a climate-change driven heatwave in the northern hemisphere.
One meteorologist described the loss of ice as “scary”.

This year’s openings are driven more by wind than melting but they have occurred during two temperature spikes. In February, the Kap Morris Jesup weather station in the region is usually below -20C, but earlier this year there were 10 days above freezing and warm winds, which unlocked the ice from the coast. Last week, the crack opened again after Kap Morris Jesup briefly registered a record high of 17C and strong southerly winds picked up to 11 knots. Experts predict that coastal seas will freeze again but probably later than normal.

“I think that solar heating of the water column will increase during this opening and this will delay freeze-up and ice formation,” said Rasmus Tage Tonboe, a sea ice expert at the the Danish Meteorological Institute.

As Arctic Warming Stalls Summer Weather, Study Warns of Intensifying 'Very-Extreme Extremes'
Common Dreams August 20, 2018

A new climate study out Monday in Nature warns that "accelerated warming in the Arctic" is stalling summer weather over North America, Europe, and Asia, and could lead to a future of even more "very-extreme extremes," including dangerous heat waves and flooding.

As the study outlines, greenhouse gas emissions are causing rapidly rising near-surface temperatures in the Arctic, which are increasing two-to-four times faster than the rest of the globe. While past studies have focused on how this phenomenon, called Arctic amplification (AA), impacts mid-latitude winters, this research team focused on summers.

Saying Goodbye to Planet Earth
Truthdig August 19, 2018

This tiny span of time on a planet that is 4.5 billion years old is known as the Holocene Age. It now appears to be coming to an end with the refusal of our species to significantly curb the carbon emissions and pollutants that might cause human extinction. The human-induced change to the ecosystem, at least for many thousands of years, will probably make the biosphere inhospitable to most forms of life.

Frank (Adam Frank, a professor of astrophysics at the University of Rochester) said the mathematical models for the future of the planet have three trajectories. One is a massive die-off of perhaps 70 percent of the human population and then an uneasy stabilization. The second is complete collapse and extinction. The third is a dramatic reconfiguration of human society to protect the biosphere and make it more diverse and productive not for human beings but for the health of the planet. This would include halting our consumption of fossil fuels, converting to a plant-based diet and dismantling the animal agriculture industry as well as greening deserts and restoring rainforests.

Trump’s Team “Edited” Report to Promote Coal, As New Data Reveals Huge Methane Leaks
Oil Change International August 2018

…the Trump Administration has been using cold weather events to try and promote coal, at the expense of renewables and the climate.
Firstly, an investigation by Climate Home News (CHN) has revealed that “unregulated, unnoticed coal mines across the US are leaking a potent greenhouse gas [methane] with the same greenhouse effect as 13 million cars”.
According to the CHN analysis of government data, there are roughly 300 active and 200 abandoned coal mines, which are belching and leaking about one-tenth of the potent greenhouse gas, methane. Some 60.5 MMTCO2e of methane was released in 2016.

The US’ hidden methane problem
Climate Home News August 13, 2018

Climate Home News analysis of government data has identified roughly 300 active and 200 abandoned coal mines, which are the source of almost one-tenth of US methane pollution.
Methane has 34 times the long-term warming effect of carbon dioxide and accounts for 10% of US greenhouse gas emissions. Its emissions from the oil and gas industry and the efforts of the Trump administration to roll back regulations on them have been widely publicized.

Even as US coal production has plummeted over the past decade, and the number of active mines halved, coal mine methane emissions fell at a much slower pace, EPA data published in April shows. This indicates mines are not being fully sealed as they shut down.

'Abrupt thaw' of permafrost beneath lakes could significantly affect climate change models
Science News August 15, 2018

Methane released by thawing permafrost from some Arctic lakes could significantly accelerate climate change, according to a new study. Unlike shallow, gradual thawing of terrestrial permafrost, the abrupt thaw beneath thermokarst lakes is irreversible this century. Even climate models that project only moderate warming this century will have to factor in their emissions, according to the researchers.

Melting Arctic Could Rapidly Unlock 'Deep Carbon' Buried in Permafrost
Live Science August 2018

These lakes, which form when surface ice melts and the ground beneath it collapses, could thaw underground permafrost much faster than scientists thought was possible, a new study reveals.
Previously, scientists thought the bulk of this deep thawing of Arctic permafrost would likely not happen until after 2100.

"As that permafrost thaws, we get what we call a thaw bulb, and that thaw bulb can deepen and expand laterally," Walter Anthony said. When that happens, "what was previously frozen soil with organic carbon in it becomes thawed, and that thawed soil releases this organic matter to microbes that decompose it and make carbon dioxide and methane."
The researchers wanted to quantify just how much methane —the major component of the gas bubbling up from the lakes —thermokarstive lakes are emitting today and what their projected emissions are for the future. The team used a combination of computer models and measurements taken from fieldwork in Alaska, Canada and Siberia to map the growth and emissions of thermokarst lakes.

B.C. firefighters can't do much more than 'get out of the way,' says expert
CBC August 21, 2018

"Current fire suppression technology is vastly inferior to the extremes of nature," he said, adding that there are no fire-season-ending events on the near horizon.

Big oil asks government to protect it from climate change
AP August 22, 2018

“Our overall economy, not only in Texas but in the entire country, is so much at risk from a high storm surge,” said Matt Sebesta, a Republican who as Brazoria County judge oversees a swath of Gulf Coast.

But the idea of taxpayers around the country paying to protect refineries worth billions, and in a state where top politicians still dispute climate change’s validity, doesn’t sit well with some.

“The oil and gas industry is getting a free ride,” said Brandt Mannchen, a member of the Sierra Club’s executive committee in Houston. “You don’t hear the industry making a peep about paying for any of this and why should they? There’s all this push like, ‘Please Senator Cornyn, Please Senator Cruz, we need money for this and that.’”

The Energy Charter Treaty (ECT): Secret Deal Which Allows Energy Giants to Sue Governments
openDemocracyUK August 20, 2018

Twenty years ago, and without any public debate, an arcane international agreement entered into force. The Energy Charter Treaty (ECT) gives sweeping powers to foreign investors in the energy sector, including the peculiar privilege to directly sue states in secret international tribunals arbitrated over by three private lawyers. Companies are claiming dizzying sums in compensation for government actions that have allegedly damaged their investments, either directly through expropriation or indirectly through regulations of virtually any kind.

Exclusive: Some Arctic Ground No Longer Freezing—Even in Winter
National Geographic August 20, 2018

In April he sent a team of workers out with heavy drills to be sure. They bored into the soil a few feet down and found thick, slushy mud. Zimov said that was impossible. Cherskiy, his community of 3,000 along the Kolyma River, is one of the coldest spots on Earth. Even in late spring, ground below the surface should be frozen solid.
Except this year, it wasn't.

Every winter across the Arctic, the top few inches or feet of soil and rich plant matter freezes up before thawing again in summer. Beneath this active layer of ground extending hundreds of feet deeper sits continuously frozen earth called permafrost, which, in places, has stayed frozen for millennia.

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Lookout's picture

detailing our immanent extinction. These major environmental changes are now baked into the system.

the mathematical models for the future of the planet have three trajectories. One is a massive die-off of perhaps 70 percent of the human population and then an uneasy stabilization. The second is complete collapse and extinction. The third is a dramatic reconfiguration of human society to protect the biosphere and make it more diverse and productive not for human beings but for the health of the planet. This would include halting our consumption of fossil fuels, converting to a plant-based diet and dismantling the animal agriculture industry as well as greening deserts and restoring rainforests.

My money is on door number two - complete collapse and extinction. Our species is simply too greedy to think ahead and follow model number three. It is sad, but plain to see.

Even though I think we are rushing head long toward extinction, I'm still trying to walk with as light a footprint as possible. Seems the oligarchs are thinking they'll go to space and leave our trashed planet behind...what arrogant fools.

Perhaps we should have a conversation about advising young folks in case model number one above is the future. I'm thinking about suggesting a move away from the coast, underground homes, solar power systems, food production ideas, and so on. Most of us are at the end of our journey, but we might use our collective knowledge to help the up coming generations cope with these horrific changes they will encounter.

Many people just get depressed and want to ignore our fate. Thanks for keeping your focus on this important reality and thanks for the OT!

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“Until justice rolls down like water and righteousness like a mighty stream.”

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is looking pretty likely now with all the news about the methane leaks. I think that quote is from the Hedges article iirc.

There are still not a whole lot of Climate Change articles at the top of the news and unless there is a majority of people who understand the urgency (and can act) there is not much hope.

We should definitely have that conversation with young people. Yes!

edit: to change leeks to leaks. However, there is nothing like a good soup with methane leeks and thermokarstive lake thaw bulbs. Just wow food.

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Is Climate the Worst Casualty of War? (got the link wrong in above clip)
Common Dreams July 2018

The Pentagon uses more petroleum per day than the aggregate consumption of 175 countries (out of 210 in the world), and generates more than 70 percent of this nation’s total greenhouse gas emissions, based on rankings in the CIA World Factbook. “The U.S. Air Force burns through 2.4 billion gallons of jet fuel a year, all of it derived from oil,” reported an article in the Scientific American. Since the start of the post-9/11 wars, U.S. military fuel consumption has averaged about 144 million barrels annually. That figure doesn’t include fuel used by coalition forces, military contractors, or the massive amount of fossil fuels burned in weapons manufacturing.

Just repeating this as it bears repeating. Highlighted in eb

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Trump administration fail that is affecting a relative who works in a residential rehab facility for those with addictions to drugs or alcohol:

Typically, these places are run on a revolving credit line from a bank, secured by Medicare and Medicaid receivables that, in the past, been as good as good, if the operation followed the rules. As you might imagine, these places are expensive to operate. For example, the facility that employs my relative has two smaller facilities total and typically has $8.5 million outstanding on its credit line.

Now, Medicare and Medicaid have been balking at paying, so banks are refusing to continuing advancing funds via the credit line. For many of these facilities, bankruptcy is looming. The ones that treat wealthy celebrities, like Betty Ford, may be able to keep going. Not so for the facilities that treat patients who are dependent on Medicare and Medicaid to pay most or all their rehab costs, including those ordered by a court to get treatment. The facilities have already treated the patients paid or owe all the costs associated with their treatment, so the switch is likely to bankrupt many facilities. That means addicts untreated and employees out of work.

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And thank you for the news. Addictions are diseases. The de-funding is about balancing the budget.

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If the cuts are about balancing the budget, then the cuts are about the wrong way to balance the budget. The military budget got increased, thanks to a bipartisan vote. The NSA is a black hole for money and so on.

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@HenryAWallace
The social contract is dead. Social security, medicare, etc will all be cut to 'balance the budget' if at all possible while money goes to the military and the oligarchs get tax cuts. Meanwhile the people and environment are getting ravished. How angry to people have to get before it is too much?

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http://ocean.dmi.dk/anim/index.uk.php

The vast majority of the Arctic Ocean is covered by less than 2M of ice. The areas which have 3+ meters are tiny and shrinking rapidly. The link above (ice thickness is my metric) shows this very disturbing and relatively unknown reality.

What happens when that ice is gone and 24 hours of sunlight hits the dark ocean for 6 months at a time? The End, I'm afraid.

I've been following Beckwith as well, and recently revisited Guy MacPherson (sp). Not a lot of hope coming from me at this point in time.

I'm afraid that Climaticide is a very near term reality. RIP Johnny Rook.

Keep them coming, magiamma. I appreciate the collection.
Peace~

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That's more bad news. It is happening so quickly.

The vast majority of the Arctic Ocean is covered by less than 2M of ice. The areas which have 3+ meters are tiny and shrinking rapidly. The link above (ice thickness is my metric) shows this very disturbing and relatively unknown reality.

Beckwith really said it well when he said we have to claw our way back of the rock face. That is how it feels to me.

Guy McPherson is the most depressing guy out there. I love him. Right? His summery has such clarity and all backed up with evidence. Climatiside indeed.

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I saw something in the Guardian the other day reporting that the ice north of Greenland is unexpectedly breaking up. And another story about the building evidence that arctic warming is slowing down the jet stream and turning hot days into heat waves. Here in Seattle where the smoky air had been “unhealthy“ for the past several days, it didn’t help that the weather systems weren’t moving.

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very thick and stable as I have recently learned.

Here is the before and after from Aug 11 and Aug 28 (projected):
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You can see changes from bedtime to morning...

People think there is a mile deep sheet of ice up there. 2M. And look how little 3M ice is left. Our lake in MI used to be thicker than much of the Arctic at this point in time.

And I love Guy MacPherson, magiamma. "At the edge of extinction only love remains."

Peace~

@magiamma @Hawkfish

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that was a nice summary.
You can look at the US and other militaries as an example of a positive feedback. While something more than zero military is probably required, the vast militaries we are seeing are in place to fight resource wars, primarily for oil and gas, including pipeline and tanker routes. They consume large amounts of carbon to control larger amounts of carbon and keep them flowing.

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"The greatest shortcoming of the human race is our inability to understand the exponential function." -- Albert Bartlett
"A species that is hurtling toward extinction has no business promoting slow incremental change." -- Caitlin Johnstone

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@WoodsDweller
Good points - fight resource wars, primarily for oil and gas, including pipeline and tanker routes. Yes they are good examples of positive feedbacks. That is a great way to think about them.

I really struggled with trying to figure out all the ways that the military pollutes. I will add those to my list.

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[video:https://youtu.be/Emf1O8q80SM]
and listen to in my old age now.

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Good morning. Yes, me too. Loved Joan. She still live in Woodside I believe.

Here's one of my old time favorite with the good ol' cotton pick. Just love her.

[video:https://youtu.be/WUrQm0rlMRU]

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so forgive me for not commenting to the content. When I read footprint all I can think of is to kick my foot into their ... behinds.

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@magiamma
Pleased to report that a new batch of sauerkraut, 23 days of fermentation, tastes great. Best news i've for today.

Thanks for The OT and joining you and mimi with a little Joan:

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@smiley7
Thank you. What kind of cabbage do you use? I like the Chinese kind.

[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XH2_odUfolk]

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@magiamma @magiamma
local cabbage when available, store-bought when not; looking for the heaviest heads denoting water content, a key.

Amount of salt of differing kinds, temperature and 'luck'-- if the moon's right as Grandma advised--impact the outcome, texture and taste. As in baking, i just do it by rote and feel, hoping for good results.

A bonus is when the tummy feels uneasy, i eat a couple of tablespoons and voila!

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I made some with Chinese cabbage last year . . . it tasted good, but the texture was weird. A month ago I pleased to open a jar (of three) that I thought had spoiled, but they were wonderful. I had included carrots. Will definitely try that again.

Thanks for telling us about your sauerkraut. I need to get out my crock and get busy! Thanks!

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"Make dirt, not war." eyo

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@mhagle
I feel like a Sauerkraut in a jar. Seems as a real good sauerkraut never goes sour. Smile
Thanks for your links to lovely Joan Baez.

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on climate change during the 2016 election. That was probably the most important issue he raised above all others. After all You can’t have an economy if you’re dead.

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@Lily O Lady
It is all happening so much faster than people thought it would. Look at the change in the release of methane, the shift in the jet stream, the melting of arctic ice.

Is it possible that people will mobilize quickly enough? I have my doubts but will keep on keeping on.

The guys, mostly men but not all, who have been studying this are alarmed, and with good cause.

Guy Mcpherson wrote this in Feb of 2015 and moved to the desert off grid. It is a long article with a lot of links and very sobering.

Thanks for stopping by. Smile

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stored methane or ocean floor clathrate were mentioned. These were given all the legitimacy of the dreaded conspiracy theory. The sense of urgency that some of us expressed was constantly shot down. It’s probably still going on at TOP.

Charles Koch supports the PBS series Nova where the idea of man as infinitely adaptable has, IMO, been touted over and over again. Programs tracing the evolution of man also lauds our ability to adapt to whatever nature throws at us. What is not accounted for is nature plus man’s considerable influence upon it allowing those who choose to to blithely ignore what is in store for us.

All this denial sets my hair on fire (like we need any more CO2) as I am painfully aware of our approaching doom. Thank you for your essays. Maybe you should chisel them in stone so that any surviving humans could see that at least some of us cared even if we couldn’t stop the plunge over the climate cliff. Wink

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So I have 3 teens (two biological) in my household. Seems like I need to be encouraging them to reinvent the future in light of the facts and as they want it to be. One is leaning towards architecture, one to counseling, and one to politics.

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The more they know about what is happening with Climate Change the better off they will be imho. I had one go into environmental studies back in the early 90s because I was so upset about it then.

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just what is your avatar? I've been looking at it from every direction and still can't figure it out. And I don't want to post what my guesses are ...

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Which AIPAC/MIC/pharma/bank bought politician are you going to vote for? Don’t be surprised when nothing changes.

@snoopydawg @snoopydawg you dawg. lol I think its pink nose and mouth look like a Y, it's lying with one leg both legs stretched out over an upside down head. I love cats.
Edit: huh I used to live with a three legged cat, but that avatar has four good ones. oops
Utah firefighter killed in Mendocino Complex fires died after retardant drop

SACRAMENTO — A firefighter from Utah was killed last week from falling tree debris after a modified airliner dropped thousands of gallons of flame-suppressing liquid on the area where he was helping battle California's largest-ever wildfire, according to a preliminary report from investigators obtained by The Associated Press.

Battalion Chief Matthew Burchett was struck by debris on Aug. 13 at the Mendocino Complex fires, according to the report by California fire officials, while three other firefighters received minor injuries.

Services for the 42-year-old suburban Salt Lake City firefighter were held Monday in Utah. Burchett's 7-year-old son, Griffin, carried his father's helmet underneath his arm as he entered the funeral.

Bummer, sounds like a fuck up that should have never happened. You know Griffin is my family name, right? strange coincidence

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I had to turn it upside down to see what it was. Did you post it down side up on purpose or take the photo standing over it? I have been trying to figure it out since you posted it. It's kept me out of the street so we're good..

Yes this fire fighter's death was well covered here. Very sad. Have you seen this video of the tornado? It's interesting and disturbing how it formed.

Fire tornado

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@snoopydawg it triggers memories of traumatic episodes in my own life connected to the forests and people, and death and fire. Pardon my crazy but maybe I wouldn't have clinical depression if assholes weren't burning, slashing, cutting, drilling, extracting, damming, fertilizing, pumping, fracking, out-gassing California to death. Capitalist freedumb run amok.

This guy burned to death calling in a water drop. Accident? NOPE fuck that shit don't tell me "no one could have expected" climate change. UC system graduates dumb shits now? And another thing! The cops should have let at least one family member enter the area to save their own when they were calling for help, there was still time to get great granny and the kids. But noo, idiocracy rules due to looting paranoia from the overpaid fat pension pigs. sorry just kill me now

Report: Massive fire tornado killed California firefighter

Stoke "identified himself by his radio call sign, and stated that he needed a water drop and was getting burned over," the report said.

When an engine captain tried to contact him shortly after, there was no response, it said.

"Observations from witnesses and other evidence suggest that either several fire tornadoes occurred at different locations and times, or one fire tornado formed and then periodically weakened and strengthened causing several separate damage areas," the report said

several
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@eyo @snoopydawg

He was sleeping like that on a chair and my daughter took a couple of pics of him.

Thought about writing about him last year. He was a rescue kitty. Got him at about 2 weeks and had to bottle feed him. When they are that little, you have to help them wee as well. And take a wash cloth and wash their faces like a mommy would.

Very therapeutic! Rescue pets are so grateful and adoring. We have 6 dogs and 6 cats. All are some form of rescue except 2 . . . the chiweenie puppy my daughter just had to have at age 10 and the wiener puppy she had to have at age 14. Smile They are cool dogs too, but clearly not as grateful. And wiener dogs are very naughty.

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The war machine kills both ways, coming and going. Others, and eventually itself. Just not soon enough on the itself part. We are just collateral damage anyway.

I have studied ecology and the environment 60 years. No one could have predicted the changes we have seen, 50 years ago. A Ph.D. biologist friend that studied the Mojave Desert for 50 years said to me, years ago, he can not believe the changes he has seen, and it could not have been predicted with all knowledge at the time. Everything seemed constant. And that is in the 'barren' desert. Just like the changes in bird populations and distribution nationwide, no ornithologist 50 years ago could have predicted much of what we are seeing now. Same for bugpocalypse, etc., ad. infinitum. I am confident the best climate modeling falls as far short of reality. We can only make best guesses with what little we know. Virtually all the reality has turned out worse than the modelling, already so far.

Clearly if the media can convince so many Russia hacked the election, Obama was a good President, and Hillary the most qualified ever candidate was robbed, then the people could be made to understand about the earth's ecosystems, and that "she's about to blow Captain!"
And that the war machine is the biggest part of the problem.

Money doesn't talk, it swears...

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@dystopian

We are just collateral damage anyway.

We're just useless mouth breathers who are taking up their resources. Especially the poor, elderly and disabled.

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Useless eaters. Boy howdy and hot damn.

Apparently there's an asteroid a comin'.

An asteroid estimated at between 70 and 160 meters (230 to 525 feet) in diameter will make a “close approach” to Earth next week, according to NASA. The rocky object, referred to as 2016 NF23, is traveling at around 20,000 miles per hour—faster than many rockets.

Data from the space agency’s Earth Close Approaches website indicates that the Near Earth Object (NEO) will come nearest to our planet on August 29.

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Not that I'd be able to see it anyway. Monday it rained and that evening our skies were clear for the first time in weeks. Tuesday it was smokey again, rained yesterday and today the air is the worst its ever been during the fire season. I've posted a picture of my town to show how close the northern mountains are. Today if you didn't know they were there you couldn't see it. The smoke isn't just coming from California, but it has been what has filled our air. Just yuck.

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@dystopian @dystopian
didn't ya know that the Paris Agreement predictions had to be way off just because of the politics. Everything got boiled down to the lowest common denominator. But to anyone looking at the data it was clear. I had people in the early 90s tell me they thought I was loosing my mind. Literally. Concerned. Good friends. But it was obvious then (she said yelling). It was fucking obvious then. 30 years ago. I see the signs in nature everywhere I go. In the tree growth, the birds, the air. Of course it is terribly convenient that 'people' don't know bc maybe they would panic. K, better stop, end rant. Thx for listening. edit punctuation.

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. . . realized their models were off. Jason Box's infamous "we're fucked" tweet was less than ten years ago. It was after he read a report of methane bubbles in arctic water by some ship that was on a non-weather related voyage.

Yes . . . Mother Nature has a mind of her own.

Nearly every morning I am outside early working in the garden. About a week ago I got to witness simply blatant geoengineering. The sky was a clear tic-tac-toe pattern with a plane still up there spewing the way unnaturally huge plume of whatever it is in it's wake. We are in the Dallas to Houston flight path and those planes don't have a plume behind them.

Ugh.

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Marilyn

"Make dirt, not war." eyo

@mhagle thanks, Al Gore just pisses me off now. Grow stinking rich as the world burns, it's not a good look on anyone I think. PU

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Pretty sure someone here at c99 gave that link before, I saved it a while ago. Thanks.

peace is cooler

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@eyo

I've saved it now too. Yeah, they all piss me off as well.

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Marilyn

"Make dirt, not war." eyo