Hillary's "I Hate Bernie" Tour
Today the most popular politician in America (by far) is introducing a historic health care reform bill that has become the defining progressive issue. Also today, Hillary Clinton is doing everything she can to undermine progressives.
In a new sign of lingering tensions from the 2016 Democratic primary, Hillary Clinton dismissed Sen. Bernie Sanders' call for a single-payer healthcare system in an interview with Vox published Wednesday.
Vox's Ezra Klein asked Clinton, who defeated Sanders to become the Democratic nominee in 2016, what she though of the independent Vermont senator's Medicare-for-all plan, which he is set to release Wednesday.
"Well, I don’t know what the particulars are," Clinton said. "As you might remember, during the campaign he introduced a single-payer bill every year he was in Congress — and when somebody finally read it, he couldn’t explain it and couldn’t really tell people how much it was going to cost."
Clinton also highlighted what she saw as potential flaws in selling such a plan — special interests and public sentiment.
Let's ignore for the moment that she is still lying (Sanders had a detailed plan).
What is significant here isn't the proven facts. What is important is Hillary's utter disdain for progressives.
alking to the former Obama aides who now run the popular “Pod Save America” podcast, Clinton roundly denounced and dismissed not just Sanders's campaign but basically his entire political ethos, suggesting it's overly simplistic and awful for the Democratic Party. And at a time when Sanders's “Medicare for all” proposal just happens to be catching fire among top Democrats, it's difficult not to read this as Clinton's effort to arrest the party's tilting toward Sanders.
Disdain not just for progressives, but for the public in general.
I was running to build on the progress of the prior eight years. I was unapologetic about that. But I also knew the head winds of trying to succeed a two-term president of your own party were pretty intense. I mean, Americans get bored, they get tired, they want a change, they think somebody else can do something better, even though they liked Bill Clinton and they liked Barack Obama. But they want change.
People that didn't support Hillary were bored, like children. It had nothing to do with her elitism.
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But but but...
Hillary's numbers were so good they couldn't even fit her on the chart!!
@gjohnsit that's a lot of sexism
that's a lot of sexism and racism against "rising star" Kamala Harris. Don't the people polled know they have been given their candidate?
I noticed that too
Roughly 2/3rd of Democrats
Not Sure comes in second to Sanders....
I noticed that President Not Sure takes second place in that poll....
[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9OHm6FsgJM8]
Just like Americans suffered in "boredom" under FDR's four terms
Maybe we just had it too good under Obama?
Or to parphrase Lloyd Bentsen...
"I knew Barack Obama. Hillary, you're no Barack Obama."
I am grateful for two things
1st I am almost positive she will never ever campaign again.
2nd She is so bad at campaigning that impugning Sen Sanders will not be easy either.
glitterscale
Still, it's frightening how much power
the Clinton's still have.
Amazon wiped the majority of the reviews for her new book. They were all 1-star reviews. The current summed reviews now stand at 5 stars. All the newest reviews are 1-star. One person did a 2-star review to say how loathsome the book is and said she gave 2 stars in the hope it would prevent the deletion of her review.
Zuckerberg, potential presidential candidate, apparently fully embraces lying and cheating and misleading people.
Edited to say oops I mixed up Bezos w/ Zuckerberg.
Doesn't matter, vultures of a feather n/t
There is no justice. There can be no peace.
As I've been flagged
at TOP for pointing out, Hillary's cultists oppose anything (ANYTHING!) that sounds like it came from Bernie Sanders out of spite. Pure spite. Anything less would be viewed as a betrayal in their circles.
Lots of Bernie supporters hate Hillary because of who she is, what she stands for, and what she has done. Those aren't the reasons Hillary supporters hate Bernie. They hate Bernie because he crossed Hillary. Period. They don't hate Bernie, they hate Bernie back.
They're the most petty, childish group of cult-of-personality worshippers I've ever seen.
There have been many comments there
where people state that they will never forgive Bernie for.... running against her, for saying that the DP has let us down, for questioning Hillary's right to get paid for speeches, etc.
Their number one reason for why she lost is because of sexism and misogyny.
I so agree with this comment about Hillary:
The one person who answered this comment wrote:
She's a moron because of her policies yet we can't say that we don't like Hillary because of her policies.
This is their hypocrisy.
There were problems with running a campaign of Joy while committing a genocide? Who could have guessed?
Harris is unburdened of speaking going forward.
Hmm!...
A Harvard trained M.D. is not exactly the definition I would use for "fucking moron".
The poster might want to look closer to home.
Gëzuar!!
from a reasonably stable genius.
At this point,
she's just trolling the U.S.
I wish she would return to her bridge and stay in its shadow.
(The spring in my Loathemeter broke, hitting 11.5... oh well.)
Gëzuar!!
from a reasonably stable genius.
Tibetan Buddhist psychology
has a state called "Hungry Ghost." She still craves dreams of power but has no real way to "eat" it. I'd recommend she take three years in a cave rather than haunting the public.
Orwell: Where's the omelette?
There she goes again, reminding me why I hate her
Not that I'm likely to forget. I've written and deleted several comments now. Name calling just doesn't do it, because none are bad enough to express the depth of how much I loathe her.
It's still possible that the DNC could bring
back this Zombie from the dead. Obama blew life back through Bill's dead fetid lips when trotted him out in Florida. Gives nightmares the thought.
A truth of the nuclear age/climate change: we can no longer have endless war and survive on this planet. Oh sh*t.
Nothing New from Her and Her Crew
Just finished up "Shattered" and even in a book very sympathetic towards Her, you can still see that Her and the sycophants around Her never were even close to a clue. They accuse Sanders of making all these viscous personal attacks without ever addressing the issues at the core (and many of them even agree things like the Wall Street speeches were a bad idea that they tried to talk Her out of.) They claim he had no plans while ignoring or dismissing without countering the ones he had. They keep talking about anger from progressives and have absolutely no idea why people would be angry. They can't even acknowledge the issues. You can almost hear the sputtering indignation from this crowd that one would dare to suggest that we can do better than Her for president. The lack of self-reflection among this lot is almost impressive. I honestly can't imagine what Her thinks a book shitting all over Sanders is going to accomplish now.
Idolizing a politician is like believing the stripper really likes you.
gooey personal attacks :-)
"Dr. Freud, paging Dr. Sigmund Freud...."
(You made a Freudian spelling error -- details below!)
Umm, you meant vicious personal attacks, correct?
"Viscous" means "gooey".
As for viscous attacks, Her Heinous should look in a mirror:
Shitting.
Sounds pretty viscous to me!
"US govt/military = bad. Russian govt/military = bad. Any politician wanting power = bad. Anyone wielding power = bad." --Shahryar
"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides
Spelling was never a strong suit of mine.
But maybe I said what I really meant after all. Heh.
Idolizing a politician is like believing the stripper really likes you.
. . . what Her thinks . . .
Easy. If she can't be President, she sure as hell wants to make sure that he will never be. Expect four years of this sputtering, just to make sure. And yes, it's childish, but too many Boomers still haven't grown up.
The other reason for this
is to make sure that the DP doesn't move too far to the left. This was also why Perez was installed as the head of the DNC. Obama was responsible for that.
There were problems with running a campaign of Joy while committing a genocide? Who could have guessed?
Harris is unburdened of speaking going forward.
The party isn't moving left.
Pelosi, Schumer, and other powers in the party are calmly ensuring that it remains just where it is as long as they stand to benefit from that.
No, the nastiness of the Hillary and Hillbot attacks is something else. It's vindictiveness. It's hatred. It's high-school drama crowding out service to the people, because in their eyes only some people are worthy.
And Perez was installed because, like Harris,
he's got a record of "sharp business practice," which means they can now be bent to promote any view whatsoever.
Useful frauds without honor.
Nails it. as usual. n/t
the little things you can do are more valuable than the giant things you can't! - @thanatokephaloides. On Twitter @wink1radio. (-2.1) All about building progressive media.
I would love to have a woman in the WH but...
...Hillary is not a "woman". She is an ex-1st Lady of a controversial (to say the least) POTUS. She did not get there by being a woman, she got there because of the establishment Dems put her there. Elizabeth Warren is a woman and she would be a great POTUS.
The political revolution continues
women
Jill Stein and Kshama Sawant are both women, and either would make a fine POTUS too.
In fact, the supply of American women who would do better at the POTUS job than Her Heinous is quite large!
"US govt/military = bad. Russian govt/military = bad. Any politician wanting power = bad. Anyone wielding power = bad." --Shahryar
"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides
I tell you why she lost.
Quote from a WAPO article: Hillary ''Bernie succeeded in large part simply because people are “bored” and don't like the status quo''
Bill at least had the sense to try to scam with ''I feel your pain'' comment.
Solidarity forever
Ah,
but Bush was president when Bill ran. Hillary couldn't go that route because Obama relieved all our pain.
She couldn't go off on Bernie?
Really? Well now, I do agree wholeheartedly that there are most definitely words she dare not invoke as they'll only point out even more clearly HER very own corruption, so in that respect twitbie is right, but damn. There's a reason I don't watch shit like that and most of the ding bats there prove that a very good thing. I did enjoy the remark about Hillary's negatives though, a "pre-existing condition" for damned sure. And really, while its so easy to blame that all on RWNJ this election sure showed that RWNJ was not wrong about HER. She showed us all very clearly just what she really is, but the willfully blind will refuse to see it even as it smacks their heroine in her smug face.
Only a fool lets someone else tell him who his enemy is. Assata Shakur
How can women be misogynists?
Is this some internal hatred of one's self?
The claim that Herheinous lost to Trump was because she was a woman is just another excuse for her and her shitty campaign.
I don't loathe Her because she's a woman, I loathe Her because of her policies.
Whatever good she did for the Children’s Defense Fund was overshadowed by the policies she and her husband promoted during the 1990s. to the point where Marian Wright Edelman declared she felt betrayed by the Clintons. It is what you do when you have real power that matters — her Iraq War vote, and subsequent promotion of that invasion stands as her biggest lost opportunity for leadership. She hasn't seen a military intervention that she wasn't in favor of.
The final straw was when she laughed and clapped her hands after watching the video of Gaddafi being killed after he was sodomized by a knife or sword. This should have disqualified her from running for anything again.
BTW, I loathe Obama for many of the same reasons. Not because he's half Black.
There were problems with running a campaign of Joy while committing a genocide? Who could have guessed?
Harris is unburdened of speaking going forward.
Why Hillary Lost
Hillary Clinton didn't lose because people were bored. Hillary lost because of her personality.
This reminds me of my favorite video clip of the Clintons
So close...
I forgot that video
I forgot about that video. Could that incident have been a warning "from above"? ha!
I pondered that screenshot
and realized that early 90's Hillary reminds me of Rebecca De Mornay in The Hand That Rocks the Cradle
Gëzuar!!
from a reasonably stable genius.
That was the very moment
I knew that he and she would lie through their teeth to get power; she by association. Didn't look at this clip now, but iirc she's shaking her head 'no' the entire time she's painting Flowers(?) as some kind of nut. And we know without question now that both were lying about the affair at this time.
But if your crap detector works, you knew it then.
Orwell: Where's the omelette?
No, watch the clip. It's only a minute
and that's because it's a loop. The key moment is very short. Check it out. I don't want to spoil it for you.
OMG! It's like
there was a Divine Warning to her to not tell those lies and smears she was getting ready to tell, and then did anyway if you can find the full segment that was aired.
Orwell: Where's the omelette?
Ummm, yes she did stand bye her man
just like Tammy Wynette. How many women accused Bill of unwanted sexual abuses or assault and had the wrath of Hillary come down on them?
I didn't care if she stayed with him or not. That was her decision. I did mind what she did to those women.
There were problems with running a campaign of Joy while committing a genocide? Who could have guessed?
Harris is unburdened of speaking going forward.
@karl pearson
Great comment, but it's missing a bit required for total accuracy:
disorder.
Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.
She's defacing the life preserver that keeps her party alive.
Can you imagine the last election WITHOUT Bernie? No pressure relief whatsoever from the "reasonable" candidate, when the obvious Collusion and manipulation came to light?
Without Bernie, the Dems are dead. Even with him, continuing to treat him like a sheepdog for nothing just brings closer the Time of Death.
I do not pretend I know what I do not know.
@detroitmechworks
May all corporate parties rest in pieces... and, where applicable, various criminals among them be peacefully arrested for war crimes and whatever else they've committed.
Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.
Someone from ToP has a comment that says that
Hillary is the only candidate who thought all she had to do was show up at the convention for her coranation and that the only reason she was elected to congress was because she was married to Bill.
This sounds so right. It's too bad that Bernie got in the way of her coranation (not) and this is why Hillary and Herbots can't forgive him and his followers.
There were problems with running a campaign of Joy while committing a genocide? Who could have guessed?
Harris is unburdened of speaking going forward.
Oh snap!! The Clinton PUMAs have returned
I have no idea how I found this article, but it removes the masks that Hillary and Bill are wearing.
One of Hillary's beefs with Bernie is that he stayed in the race after it was clear that he couldn't win the primary. IIRC, he did this so that he had some type of leverage at the convention.
Revenge of the PUMAs
The Clintons Have Weaponized Their Following and Have the Future of the Democratic Party in Their Sites
There is much more to this article about how Hillary's PUMAs went on a rampage after it was clear that she couldn't win the primary.
There were problems with running a campaign of Joy while committing a genocide? Who could have guessed?
Harris is unburdened of speaking going forward.
Does anyone remember how nasty Herheinous was when
she realized that she wasn't going to be the nominee and that she refused to see that? I felt embarrassed for her because of that.
One more quote from this article:
Yep. Big dawg whistle.
There were problems with running a campaign of Joy while committing a genocide? Who could have guessed?
Harris is unburdened of speaking going forward.