GWOT has killed 500,000+ and the carnage is accelerating
It's amazing to think that we could have killed so many people, and yet the topic was barely even mentioned in the recent elections.
A study released Thursday says the U.S.-led war on terrorism has killed about 507,000 people in Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan during its 17 years and is showing a 22 percent increase in deaths in the past two years.The death toll includes U.S. and allied troops, civilians in the war zones, local military and police forces, as well as militants, who have died from war violence, according to the report by Brown University's Costs of War Project.
The report said the number of indirect deaths was several times larger than deaths caused by direct war violence, bringing the total death count to well over 1 million people.
Day by day, the casualties grow, largely unnoticed by the American public and our lawmakers. This is why we need to #EndEndlessWar. https://t.co/RchhjTTjfW
— Win Without War (@WinWithoutWar) November 8, 2018
As horrific as as that number is, it doesn't encompass the entire GWOT.
For instance, Syria isn't counted. Consider the example of Raqqa.
One year after the U.S.-led military campaign against ISIS ended in Raqqa, Khamis' team is still recovering the remains of the battle's casualties. This grim, daily work is revealing a civilian death toll that is dramatically higher than the assessment offered by the U.S.-led coalition against ISIS.
The rescue workers' findings, which they document in meticulous notes shown to NPR, point to an offensive that killed many more civilians than it did ISIS members, and where the majority of those civilians likely died in American airstrikes.
...In May 2017, Defense Secretary James Mattis told CBS News the U.S. was accelerating and intensifying the campaign against ISIS, and added, "We have already shifted from attrition tactics ... to annihilation tactics."
"This new body count signals that, far from diminishing, the war is only intensifying."
- Stephanie Savell, co-director of the project
Also missing from this count is Yemen, where our drone strikes have killed around a thousand people, and the entire continent of Africa.
We've been bombing Somalia since 2007 and Libya since 2011, but the GWOT has barely even started there.
The Pentagon authorized three new classified contingency operations in February 2018, just months after the ill-fated October ambush in Niger that left four Army Special Forces personnel dead at the hands of ISIS-affiliated militants, according to a new report published Monday by the lead DoD inspector general for Operation Inherent Resolve published.
These classified missions — known as Operation Yukon Journey and “operations in Northwest Africa and East Africa,” according to the report — are designed to “degrade al Qaeda and ISIS-affiliated terrorists in the Middle East and specific regions of Africa.” And while details on those operations are scant due to their sensitive nature, the DoD OIG report says the Pentagon was unable to answer critical questions regarding the U.S. military presence there:
There is only one appropriate way to end this depressing essay.
“The war, therefore if we judge it by the standards of previous wars, is merely an imposture. It is like the battles between certain ruminant animals whose horns are incapable of hurting one another. But though it is unreal it is not meaningless. It eats up the surplus of consumable goods, and it helps to preserve the special mental atmosphere that the hierarchical society needs. War, it will be seen, is now a purely internal affair. In the past, the ruling groups of all countries, although they might recognize their common interest and therefore limit the destructiveness of war, did fight against one another, and the victor always plundered the vanquished. In our own day they are not fighting against one another at all. The war is waged by each ruling group against its own subjects, and the object of the war is not to make or prevent conquests of territory, but to keep the structure of society intact. The very word "war," therefore, has become misleading. It would probably be accurate to say that by becoming continuous war has ceased to exist."
- George Orwell, 1984
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New Yemen death study...
Andrea Carboni from ACLED discusses his organisation’s new study which shows 56,000 have died as a direct result of conflict in Yemen https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxHR9aWxDgM (8 min)
https://www.acleddata.com/2018/11/08/fatalities-in-the-yemen-conflict/
Profiting by starving children and spreading disease in Yemen.
“Until justice rolls down like water and righteousness like a mighty stream.”
And media silently collaborate.
Why have death tolls in recent wars been "largely unnoticed " in the US?
During World Wars I and II and the Korean "Police Action," radio, newspapers and magazines apprised the US population of war events several times daily. At some point, I don't know when, newsreels preceded every showing of a film and included news of the war. During the "Vietnam Era," if not sooner, television joined the other mass media in providing news of the war. And, at some point, though I cannot pinpoint it, government decided that war news was not for government. And mass media complied.
In the early stages of the Iraq War, I noticed a loud silence in covering the war daily. As I posted elsewhere on this board, I thought, Surely, on Memorial Day, television news will report on the war, especially deaths of US troops. On the Friday before Memorial Day Monday, I tuned into the open of the Today show and heard a helicopter. However, it was Matt Lauer in the helicopter, reporting on Memorial Day traffic in the New York City area. On a national network, the open on Memorial Day was not war casualties or other hard war news, but a local traffic report for the benefit of New Yorkers using Memorial Day weekend to get out of NYC to a more fun venue!
Nor did media fight a prohibition on photographing flag draped coffins. Although it was impossible to tell the identity of the person inside the coffin, the rationale for the prohibition was the sensibilities of the survivors. Really? Were the survivors happy with a government and mass media that was ignoring the dangers and sacrifices of war?
IIRC, there were some televised calls from troops to loved ones in the US, but, of course, the troops were minimizing danger to the US troops, so as to comfort their loved ones. As the war unfolded, I saw calls of that kind and videos of troops surprising their kids at school. The kind of thing that, in the past, may have been described as "schmaltz."
The cumulative absence of day-to-day coverage of wars in which US troops have been involved has been gobsmacking and unprecedented. So much for independent news in the US, at least as to mass media.
Actual journalism
The accurate reporting of the war in Vietnam has been repeatedly blamed for America's defeat there.
That sort of thing is no longer allowed as it threatens the MIC ability to reap obscene profits looting our treasury while keeping the unpleasant parts out-of-view.
The 4th Estate has failed us
42% of Americans don't know we are still at war in Afghanistan, a war that we are losing.
Part of the blame for this ignorance is the American public, but obviously the news media and our politicians share a majority of the blame.
The corporate owners of the 4th estate
Over the years they have run off or fired the 'liberal' press. Now they shill for TPTB.
A truth of the nuclear age/climate change: we can no longer have endless war and survive on this planet. Oh sh*t.
Don't let politicians off the hook
At the very least they could talk about the wars, and thus help force the media to mention it.
Politicians could also do something about the corporate media concentration.
Politicans did do something about media concentration.
They changed the antitrust laws and regulations that would have prohibited such concentration. Once, anti trust laws would have prohibited acquisition after acquisition of the same kind of business, so as to prevent a monopoly in any given field. Then politicians changed the criteria to dollar amounts. regardless of the business of the companies involved in a merger or acquisition. For their next act(s), they kept increasing the dollar amount.
I don't know if they did the above with an eye specifically to media concentration, but they should not have done that at all.
From the wiki
A truth of the nuclear age/climate change: we can no longer have endless war and survive on this planet. Oh sh*t.
That reporting has been ‘less than honest’
has been obvious for a long time.
The msm has been useless for a long time.
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I'm tired of this back-slapping "Isn't humanity neat?" bullshit. We're a virus with shoes, okay? That's all we are. - Bill Hicks
Politics is the entertainment branch of industry. - Frank Zappa
Wasn't it during Bush 1 when showing the returning dead
was outlawed on TV? Bush was giving his SotU address and the screen split to show the dead coming home from Iraq war 1.
After we got to watch the atrocities of Shock and Awe the reporting from Iraq was scripted and the 'journalists' were embedded with the army so they could censor the news.
We don't hear about mercenary deaths at all since we don't hear how many of them there are fighting our wars. The government would rather pay higher wages to mercenaries than bring back the draft because as chuckutzmanstates that would end the wars.
The guy from Utah who recently died was in the national guard and on his 4th deployment when he was shot by someone he was training. He said that he was doing good things over there and he loved what he was doing. BTW. Haven't we been training Afghan troops for like ever? How many more years will we be doing that?
Scientists are concerned that conspiracy theories may die out if they keep coming true at the current alarming rate.
Yes, the Bush administration was the first to prohibit media
from publishing pics of the coffins.
I never watched a Bush SOTU, but I will take your word for it.
Government is a great fan of truth, so long as truth about government is not told.
Bring back the draft. That would end it.
chuck utzman
TULSI 2020
Thanks so very much gj. Your voice on this is so welcome
and makes c99 a go to for many as a consequence.
Vet actions are reason to have some optimism imo.
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Who has heard of this org ? Just discovered it. Looks interesting.
Excellent expose by Lima Charlie News:
Heh. Vets are fired up for PEACE !!
A truth of the nuclear age/climate change: we can no longer have endless war and survive on this planet. Oh sh*t.
The armistice day festivities were pure bullsh*t!
The 'leaders of the free world' came together to celebrate the ending of the war to end all wars while there are countless wars going on. What a fcuking joke! How many people are living in hell right now while those people were eating nice food and being catered to? Gah!
Caitlin nails it again. VETERANS SHOULD NOT HAVE TO RELY ON FUCKING CHARITY.
The Best Way To Honor War Veterans Is To Stop Creating Them
The Dead
do not require our silence to be honored
do not require our silence to be remembered.
do not accept our silence as remembrance, as honor.
do not expect our silence to end
the carnage of war
the child starved
the woman raped
the virulence of intolerance
the Earth desecrated
It is the living who require our silence
in a lifetime of fear and complicity
The Dead
do require our courage to defy the powerful and the greedy.
do require our lives to be loud, compassionate, courageous.
do require our anger at the continuance of war in their name.
do require our shock at the maiming of the Earth in their name.
do require our outrage to be honored, to be remembered.
Amen!
Since the war to end all wars
Scientists are concerned that conspiracy theories may die out if they keep coming true at the current alarming rate.
Whew, sd.
OT
Was good to see this:
A truth of the nuclear age/climate change: we can no longer have endless war and survive on this planet. Oh sh*t.
Yeah me too
Thanks for posting this.
Another OT.
Bush got his Liberty medal at a $1,000 per plate dinner.
Here's the Twitter thread on it.
Liberty Medal
Scientists are concerned that conspiracy theories may die out if they keep coming true at the current alarming rate.
I don't get why we don't talk about it
all of the time.
I guess we can't deal with it mentally so we ignore it (we being the much broader group of US citizens).
dfarrah
100 years after the great carnage of WW I
and 200 years after the great carnage of the Napoleonic Wars.
There was a guy who wrote a book called "A Roadmap of Time" which showed many centuries of conflict, tied to a hundred year cycle of temperature fluctuations. Every five cycles, this resonates with a 170 year rainfall cycle and all Hell breaks loose. Assuming the bad weather year near 500 AD was one of those, we are at the right time for another.
I've seen lots of changes. What doesn't change is people. Same old hairless apes.
Nothing from the liberal establishment/democrats/media
I saw a re-tweet I think from Adam Johnson of FAIR maybe two weeks back or so. I think it was him. I should have bookmarked but did not. The tweeter noted that 10 Young Turk presenters listed what makes a progressive a progressive--and not one of the them noted resistance to foreign wars.
The sad fact is that the democratic party and all the media outlets, pundits, etc., that orbit around the party are not anti-war. The most they will do is attack Trump for being an incompetent "commander and chief" never doubting the military action--just how it was conducted. Or pearl clutch claiming they never supported missile attacks on anybody while engaging in the worst sort of war mongering.
In the turned upside down world created by Trump, we see Biden giving Bush a medal. One of the supposed leading candidates to run against Trump. While a door knob would be better than Trump, I fear a democrat winning in 2020 as he or she may through their own and with the support of a rabid pro-war party, may in fact start shooting war with Russia.
Downward slope of Empire. Casualties creating it far larger
As empire falls go, we'll be lucky if we have half the grace of the British Empire
and twice the blood on our hands. Given the actual magnitude of genocidal killing that went to build the British Empire, and the relatively peaceful abdication of its once enormous colonial territories, that will be quite an accomplishment.
Britain’s imperial decline and fall can be dated to the end of World War One, and the formal decision to give up the Commonwealth territories to self rule, didn’t come until 1945. The British Empire had, of course, suffered major setbacks previously, principally the loss of its Colonies in North America.
The acquisition of the British Colonies led to enormous loss of life in the areas of English Conquest. Britain was responsible for the deaths of 35 million Indians from 1858 until 1947, according to Shashi Tharoor. Most of those deaths were due to massacres and unnecessary famines brought on by the policies of the British Raj, according to the author. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/india-35-million-deaths-br...
During the earlier period of British Colonial rule in North America, 1670-1776, the Native population in what is now the territorial United States is estimated to have declined from about 2.5 million to 800,000. (Thornton, 1987) The population of imported African slaves in the Colonies amounted to about 500,000 by the time of Independence. (Simmons, 1976) The cost of conquest and building of the 13 British Colonies probably runs in excess of 2 million lives, not including British Colonists and indentured servants.
Historian Paul Kennedy summed it up,
In the post World War Two era of the American Empire, Obermeyer estimated the 5.4 million died worldwide as a result of wars, most fought or supported by the United States. https://abcnews.go.com/Health/Healthday/story?id=5207645&page=1
Add to this the Chinese Opium Wars
Lee Camp
Do I hear the sound of guillotines being constructed?
“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~ President John F. Kennedy