The Evil Empire Is Back! With Greenwald Update.

More allegations about Trump: from Manchurian Candidate to Puppet and potential target for Blackmail.

At the heart of the matter

The material, which has been seen by the Guardian, is a series of reports on Trump’s relationship with Moscow. They were drawn up by a former western counter-intelligence official, now working as a private consultant. BuzzFeed on Tuesday published the documents, which it said were “unverified and potentially unverifiable”.

The source? Rest assured:

An official in the US administration who spoke to the Guardian described the source who wrote the intelligence report as consistently reliable, meticulous and well-informed, with a reputation for having extensive Russian contacts.

Yet:

Despite glowing references from US and foreign officials who have worked with the source, there are some errors in the reports. One describes the Moscow suburb of Barvikha as “reserved for the residences of the top leadership and their close associates”, but although it is a very expensive neighbourhood, there are no restrictions on who can own property there. The document also misspells the name of a Russian banking corporation.

Meticulous, eh?

How many novelists must be cursing at the sun as every plot they are working on is being "open sourced" to the public before they even get paid?

I suppose we are in the phase of "let's throw it against a wall and see what sticks"?

American Democracy Denied!

Five years in the planning!

Manchurian Candidate installed!

Big win for the USSR Russia!

Communism! McCarthy was right!

Dominoes! Oh the dominoes are falling! Call Henry Kissinger!

Evidence!?! You cant handle the EVIDENCE!!!!

Who is rubbing their hands in glee?

The Kremlin -We are back!

The MIC - We are back!

The NSA - We are behind your back!

The Clintons: We could be back!

Never thought I would be subjected to a spy novel 24/7, however it stinks to high heaven of a power play.

The duopoly appears to be trying to castrate the incoming executive before they even get into office, this may not be a bad thing as I have long argued that the executive has too much power that was willingly conceded to it by congress. Whilst it may be the one positive those that are trying to grab power are less than trustworthy, i.e. congress and we all know just how popular that group of sold out politicians are in the US.

The MSM [Oligarchs], Democrats and Republicans are all in on the show, they care dontcha know. The fallout could be truly comical....if you live on Mars that is, move over climate change we have a global conflict to manage now!

We live in farcical and probably very dangerous times.

Remember, none of this is proved and possibly cant even be proved. You cant handle the FACTS!

Russians!

Next episode

Chinese!

Of course the Cult of Orange is presenting this as the unvarnished and unquestionable truth
http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/1/11/1619051/-Abbreviated-Pundit-Ro...

This needed to be added, for memory if nothing else.

Greenwald The Deep State Goes to War with President-Elect, Using Unverified Claims, as Democrats Cheer.

Their most valuable instrument is the U.S. media, much of which reflexively reveres, serves, believes and sides with hidden intelligence officials. And Democrats, still reeling from their unexpected and traumatic election loss as well as a systemic collapse of their party, seemingly divorced further and further from reason with each passing day, are willing – eager – to embrace any claim, cheer any tactic, align with any villain, regardless of how unsupported, tawdry and damaging those behaviors might be.

You might end up paying heavily for your faith in spooks.

As if the reality of Trump is not bad enough [thanks for that one Democrats] the CIA as our saviours?

But cheering for the CIA and its shadowy allies to unilaterally subvert the U.S. election and impose its own policy dictates on the elected President is both warped and self-destructive.

It's a very good piece and sets out the timelines and various claims very well.

There are solutions to Trump. They involve reasoned strategizing and patient focus on issues people actually care about. Whatever those solutions are, venerating the intelligence community, begging for its intervention, and equating their dark and dirty assertions as Truth are most certainly not among them. Doing that cannot possibly achieve any good, and is already doing much harm.

Oh well, what the hell, music

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Lily O Lady's picture

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"The object of persecution is persecution. The object of torture is torture. The object of power is power. Now do you begin to understand me?" ~Orwell, "1984"

Wink

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"The object of persecution is persecution. The object of torture is torture. The object of power is power. Now do you begin to understand me?" ~Orwell, "1984"

No idea if it is correct that what an online translator gives for curve-ball

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"The object of persecution is persecution. The object of torture is torture. The object of power is power. Now do you begin to understand me?" ~Orwell, "1984"

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Blum 3

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Lol

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It's a little too close to a common term in Romance languages for women, and men, who sell their affection.

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We wanted decent healthcare, a living wage and free college.
The Democrats gave us Biden and war instead.

Wink

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Any deviance from the most extreme conspiracy-based claims is now prima facie evidence of loyalty to things Russian, at GOS.

If anyone needs me, I'll be eating my black bread and borscht while reading Kropotkin.

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"Obama promised transparency, but Assange is the one who brought it."

No Curve Ball please, comrade LaFeministka.

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Capitalism has always been the rule of the people by the oligarchs. You only have two choices, eliminate them or restrict their power.

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the Trump/Golden Showers/Blackmail story. C'mon. It's not like we elected Danny Thomas.

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"Just call me Hillbilly Dem(exit)."
-H/T to Wavey Davey

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I want no part of that.

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CB's picture

Markos is going to need a shitload of lubricant for his latest project:

https://twitter.com/markos/status/818976973493915648?ref_src=twsrc^tfw

Markos Moulitsas@markos

With CNN confirming that intelligence chiefs consider this report credible, it's about time to start using the word "treason"
4:25 PM - 10 Jan 2017

Their in-house red-baiter, Mark Sumner, will be handing out the lotion shortly.

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Proctor and Gamble to you and I, manufacturers of K-Y-J.

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I checked online and found Amazon has a good lubricant that comes in the 55 gallon cluster-fuck size for only $1,468.80 with FREE shipping. Check out the Top positive review.

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I almost hesitate to ask, but . . . .
(P.S. It is inadvisable to try to drink tea while reading the top review. It would be hard to top that story.)

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plead5th.jpg

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Reputation has been kicked to the curb.

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dervish's picture

it's all shill-bots pushing the latest nonsense or CT. I still learn things from some of the obscure diaries, but I'm spending less and less time there as I replace it with other places, including this fine place. Their brain-drain is almost complete.

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"Obama promised transparency, but Assange is the one who brought it."

But it seems in scanning the headlines, every front pager has to have some quota of anti-Putin/Russia diaries. But looks like many have jumped in with their own conspiracy theories.

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Here's the story:

The Day 4chan trolled Neocons, Intelligence Agencies and the Mainstream Media

And then something magical happened: the scheme to force Trumps to move aside and relinquish his presidency (by invoking the 25th Amendment of the Constitution) all felt [sic] to pieces by a piece of information coming from, wait for it, NOT OTHER SOURCE THAN 4chan:

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The more often the propagandists reveal themselves publicly, the better, lol - and this was seriously funny.

I'll bet they'll keep swallowing bait like that, too; it must be boring having to merely project what your paymasters do all of the time onto their chosen victims and fictional new suggestions must be very welcome.

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Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.

A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.

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CNN publishes statement distancing itself from BuzzFeed
By Benjamin Mullin • January 11, 2017

OMG, I can't stand any of this. It's dirty language, dirty content and dirty thinking. Just don't read any of this, including this "this" of mine.

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A pesky little fact that all the neo Mc Carthyites Clintonistas forget is that the Clinton campaign elevated Trump to the top of the GOP ticket through their pied piper strategy. I suspect the massive amount of free publicity that Trump got via the MSM was partially due to this strategy since the MSM was in bed with the Clinton during the entire campaign.

Going back even further, former secretary Clinton also sold 20% of US uranium reserves to the Russians. So who is really in the pocket of the Russkis? Hmmm.... Wink

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Do I hear the sound of guillotines being constructed?

“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~ President John F. Kennedy

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she opened that pickle jar on Kimmel's show, you should see her with a set of Russian nesting dolls.

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"Just call me Hillbilly Dem(exit)."
-H/T to Wavey Davey

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"I can't understand why people are frightened of new ideas. I'm frightened of the old ones."
John Cage

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Perfect is right!

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That's perfect!

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"Obama promised transparency, but Assange is the one who brought it."

I'd be scared to have those particular nesting dolls in my home in case they tortured the cats to find out where the penny jar was kept and to force them to admit that they were hairs to Putin.

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Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.

A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.

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to have the White House and then to have NYC once she becomes Mayor! Be still my beating heart! Mosking

edited for infernal typos Diablo

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"The “jumpers” reminded us that one day we will all face only one choice and that is how we will die, not how we will live." Chris Hedges on 9/11

I believe they [Russia] control about 20% of production capacity not the reserves themselves.

https://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/24/us/cash-flowed-to-clinton-foundation-...

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Do I hear the sound of guillotines being constructed?

“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~ President John F. Kennedy

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“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~ President John F. Kennedy

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The media definitely colluded with Clinton to help out the pied piper strategy (so, so in deep denial by many that the media was against Clinton....so frustrating on that end). Anyway, I don't even know what else they could have done with Clinton to have her win. EVERYTHING was on her side. EVERYTHING. And she still lost.

To Donald Trump
The guy with golden toilets.

God she is just pathetic.

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And her Little Dawg, too!

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DeVos, Carson, Pence, Sessions and all the rest of the evangelicals in his administration are certainly Trump's pay off to the evangelicals for their votes. When you follow the money, nothing surprises me.

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"Religion is what keeps the poor from murdering the rich."--Napoleon

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It was called "Shoot 'Til You Win" and that's just what they'll do.

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"Just call me Hillbilly Dem(exit)."
-H/T to Wavey Davey

Eventually I won something that cost less than I paid for the opportunity to shoot.

My brother preferred to pick a yellow plastic duck from a flock circling the booth in a small artificial stream. A winner every time! But again the prize was of less value than the cost of participation. It wasn't a bad investment for my brother since my grandparents paid for the game.

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http://www.dallasnews.com/business/exxon-mobil/2016/12/12/exxons-rex-til...

Tillerson made at least 20 visits to the White House during President Barack Obama's two terms, visitor logs show, including five after Obama began authorizing the 2014 sanctions in response to Russian aggression toward Ukraine.

Collusion!?!

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Opensecrets.org Revolver: https://www.opensecrets.org/revolving/rev_summary.php?id=79242
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Thanks Microsoft haha collusion lol

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and utter bullshit. The only way out it to live intentionally. Watch your back and carry a big stick. Oh yea and be careful carrying matches as in this gaseous and putrid scene any spark will set us ablaze. And the result could get you strung up or shot down in the street.

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I thought for sure I had defeated them back in '90. (I was in SAC). Back then, I launched a Twinkie at them out of the sextant port of a KC-135, and figured that was the fatal blow. I feel helpless, now...all I have for ordinance is about five inches of fresh snow (in Portland)...and my 737 doesn't have a sextant port. Looks like snowballs out the pilots window. Cover me, I'm going in.

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"I’m a human being, first and foremost, and as such I’m for whoever and whatever benefits humanity as a whole.” —Malcolm X

they are indestructible dontcha know you wicked leftie!

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We paid Russians to sell all of the crap they could find on the shelves to Poles, who sold it in turn to westerners. Pretty soon there was nothing left, and the place collapsed.

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"Obama promised transparency, but Assange is the one who brought it."

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which is controlled by the Deep State. The democratic party and it's politicians are part of the opposition.
This can't be about Trump as others have said, it's about the establishment, the ruling elite, that "Deep State", the power behind the throne. It's about democracy. But democrats and the democratic party will try to make it against Trump and the republicans, same old bullshit.
Will enough people fall for it? Of course. I don't think the duopoly is dead yet, especially since any movement toward challenging it seems to have died before it even got started.

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They seem not to care for Trump either. I'm betting he will be got rid of sooner than most people can imagine or he will be bent to their will entirely.

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Hey! my dear friends or soon-to-be's, JtC could use the donations to keep this site functioning for those of us who can still see the life preserver or flotsam in the water.

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"The object of persecution is persecution. The object of torture is torture. The object of power is power. Now do you begin to understand me?" ~Orwell, "1984"

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or the plutocracy. I still think Trump will play ball when all is said and done. I could be wrong, in which case he could be gone before his term ends.
Trump's overtures toward Russia and Putin have rattled the cage along with the situation in Syria. The imperialists are losing it in Syria and feel they need to attack Russia now to protect their American global hegemony agenda. Two things coming together at once. It won't take long to find out where Trump and his admin will head.

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Been thinking about Trump and all his tweeting, think he's making a smart move. Disregarding the MSM, and all the DemoRATS, journalists feeding info to DNC, Clinton & their sycophants - and Trump manages to control the message, as he sees fit. He controls the message, and gets everyone else to respond to what he's saying.

Didn't cost him anything in campaign, got all the attention he wanted, free media. He doesn't have to worry about falling for a phishing scheme like Podesta did ( still laughing at that, and his pass@word) and forget hacking.

Trump has rewritten the campaign game, seems to be enjoying himself. Grateful he got rid of the Clintons too.

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They're already trying, and have been trying for many months now. But so far at least, all their best efforts (which have not really been all that smart) have been in vain. Right from the start, Ds and Rs alike have consistently underestimated Donald Trump. IMO they continue to do so. I do not believe that Trump can be bent to anyone's will.

The US oligarchy as presently constituted is a thoroughly bi-partisan affair, and for the most part, it thoroughly disapproves of Donald Trump. Trump's personal wealth notwithstanding, he has never been an important player within its most influential circles. He has never been a team player, he has always been an inveterate iconoclast, and there is no place for such a creature within the tightly knit alliances and mutually beneficial agreements that keep the current system in charge of the US Reality Show.

By opportunistically aligning himself with key elements of the far right, Trump seeks protection from inevitable attacks to come, from the currently bi-partisan power-sharing structures of the entire US Establishment, both governmental and corporate. Structures that Third-Way Democrats have themselves worked hard to build, in the interests of "pragmatic compromise"... and perhaps their own job security.

This is a bold, but very risky strategy that Trump pursues. His cabinet seems composed largely of ideologues and independently wealthy extremists, who may or may not remain loyal to him, should he try to obstruct or curtail their various programs very severely.

However, I don't think assassination is a viable option for Trump's opponents, no matter how powerful they may be, on account of the disastrous political repercussions such an action would be likely to precipitate. On the contrary, Trump's opponents had better hope he does not meet with some untimely demise or other.

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in the relatively near future over conflicts of interest, business wise. And then, if Trump sees it a being viable for his business dealings, he will just up and quit.

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Do I hear the sound of guillotines being constructed?

“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~ President John F. Kennedy

kind of guessing, aren't we? Whatever happens, Trump will probably be remembered as one of the biggest shit-stirrers in American history.

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slippery, and she couldn't get a good grip on it.

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Ryan? McConnell? Those guys are going to benefit greatly from a Trump administration, I would gather.

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"Obama promised transparency, but Assange is the one who brought it."

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Sadly, Sanders has become a sheepdog, lulling people back into the veal pen of the Democratic Party. He could have been a monumental pivot in history, but instead decided to embrace the rotting corrupt carcass of the Democrats.

2016 was the chance the destroy the duopoly, and it didn't happen then. Two of the most disliked candidates in American history, and we still voted one of them in (didn't get my vote though). The good cop, bad cop routine continues, the next act of the kabuki theater carries on. Admission is free, though backstage passes cost about a billion per person.

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of the current state of US politics, and the mixed messages we're getting from our corporate media:

The famous speaker who no one had heard of said:
Ladies and jellyspoons, hobos and tramps,
cross-eyed mosquitos and bow-legged ants,
I stand before you to sit behind you
to tell you something I know nothing about.
Next Thursday, which is Good Friday,
there's a Mother's Day meeting for fathers only;
wear your best clothes if you haven't any.
Please come if you can't; if you can, stay at home.
Admission is free, pay at the door;
pull up a chair and sit on the floor.
It makes no difference where you sit,
the man in the gallery's sure to spit.
The show is over, but before you go,
let me tell you a story I don't really know.
One bright day in the middle of the night,
two dead boys got up to fight.
(The blind man went to see fair play;
the mute man went to shout "hooray!")
Back to back they faced each other,
drew their swords and shot each other.
A deaf policeman heard the noise,
and came and killed the two dead boys.
A paralysed donkey passing by
kicked the blind man in the eye;
knocked him through a nine-inch wall,
into a dry ditch and drowned them all.
If you don't believe this lie is true,
ask the blind man; he saw it too,
through a knothole in a wooden brick wall.
And the man with no legs walked away

i especially like the line about the paralysed donkey.

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Just more proof that we need to work around the duopoly
which is controlled by the Deep State. The democratic party and it's politicians are part of the opposition.

I'm still pushing for a massive voters block that drinks America's milkshake.

That's why I changed my sigline to this one, from the olden days of war protests at Berkeley:

“There’s a time when the operation of the machine becomes so odious, makes you so sick at heart that you can’t take part! You can’t even passively take part! And you’ve got to put your bodies upon the gears and upon the wheels, upon the levers, upon all the apparatus — and you’ve got to make it stop! And you’ve got to indicate to the people who run it, to the people who own it — that unless you’re free the machine will be prevented from working at all!”

- Mario Savio

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The political system is what it is because the People are who they are. — Plato
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We've got to take the machine down. I think I'm going to have to do it myself. It's like, "why isn't anyone organizing something? Well, I guess we're gonna have to do it."

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I think this may be something to consider here.

If someone is passed out on the ground, a crowd may form. The crowd looks to other members of the crowd but no one does anything. Why? Because they all think that someone will jump in to do something. And when they don't see someone else jumping in, they think something is wrong.

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How many times have we seen people say, "we need to be in the streets!". A lot of people are waiting for someone to start something.

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Big Al 2020. Go Big, Go Al.

Slogan wrote itself

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Or rather a continuation of the ongoing witch hunt. Russia of course being cast as the Great Satan, with Trump serving as one of his Demonic Underlings. As propaganda goes it's pretty crude, and falls well short of credibility, but I guess the PTB must be getting desperate.

I hate to keep saying "Trump is right" because I'm no fan of Trump, but the msm eedjits & whoever else is pushing this crap leave me no choice. And then they have the gall to bitch about "fake news!" I realize that Americans tend to be a credulous lot, but this latest attack on Trump is so over-the-top, and so poorly documented, I doubt that many people are going to buy it. The neocon-inspired media have already shot themselves in one foot, and now they're proceeding to shoot themselves in the other. Heck of a job, Democrats!

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Glenn Greenwald today pointed out that there are and will be plenty of legitimate criticisms of Trump, but by running with the golden showers stuff the corporate media has damaged its credibility.

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"We've done the impossible, and that makes us mighty."

the corporate media have no credibility left whatsoever. They've burned through their credibility like a drag racer burns through nitro-fuel, only to crash in a spectacular ball of flames.

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With all due respect, rmwarnick, how would be be able to tell?

In case this is a duplicate entry, I got a 500 server error the first time I tried to post this.

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Vowing To Oppose Everything Trump Attempts.

Sorry, comrades, I've seen nothing so far that indicates Trump is the horror show the Obama-Clinton-MSM-Deep State axis of evil claims him to be. Before even taking the Oath of Office, Trump averted WWlll with Russia, ended the TPP, brought jobs BACK to the U.S. (more to come), and just held his first press conference without a teleprompter, notes, or a five-minute limit that Clinton imposed with pre-approved topics. Give him a chance ... He's accomplished more pre-inauguration than Obama did in eight years and nobody was droned either.

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The people that he intends to run his administration are probably the most hawkish of all time, Kissinger included.

Don't look at Trump watch his minions closely.

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With what he's appointing we are in deep shit, no two ways about that. Trump himself will most likely just allow them to do whatever they want to do, and then he'll Tweet about it and set the narrative as that really is his only function in the office, and I'm betting its the only thing he'll really DO while in office. He's a delegator and he'll delegate our future to the Tea Bag warmongering loons he's appointing.

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Only a fool lets someone else tell him who his enemy is. Assata Shakur

Wed, 01/11/2017 - 10:59am — LaFeminista

The next 4 years cant go by fast enough in my opinion.

The people that he intends to run his administration are probably the most hawkish of all time, Kissinger included.

Don't look at Trump watch his minions closely.

Sometimes I almost wish you weren't so damned accurate... Do you kinda get the feeling that since the two-party trade-off scam is failing, a new variation may be to have the President Of (Desperately) 'Hope For Change' opposed by his own (or TPTB's) cabinet picks, Congress and Senate on anything at all potentially benefiting The People so that some will still be suckered by believing in one of the corporate parties while the world expires? The Dems also tried pushing the same Oppose Everything The President Proposes meme the other corporate Party used on Obama...

I also keep thinking of Dune and the Baron Harkonnen planning to place the Beast Rabban over Arrakis and to encourage the infliction of the worst cruelties-for-profit so that in future his nephew would be welcomed as a saviour...

Honestly, with the 'legalization' of US government propaganda use against The American People and with the Orwellian Homeland Security taking over elections, does anyone think any elections TPTB bother to run in future to keep The People quiet will ever matter again? There wasn't much pretense of democracy this time, was there, with the TPP (ready-signed by everyone involved, even when outgoing public officials) still set to go, illegally and unconstitutionally offshoring law and turning government into corporate enforcers under global corporate law? Once having forsworn the oath to uphold the Constitution which is necessary to hold/retain high public office, the oathbreaker obviously can no longer form any part of any legitimate government.

I suppose we just try to hold on until Android Hillary comes out in all of her potholder glory for the Coronation finally so securely nailed down by Homeland Security/State Department/MIC/corporate media, etc. that the Truly Deserving really do NOT need any votes at all to be declared the landslide winner. Then, if this has not already long since occurred, find the nearest desk to crouch under while awaiting the nuclear flash. Or, if we're lucky enough to be in the right spot, maybe never even know what hit us.

What else can we do?

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Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.

A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.

Between Hillary's Bene Gesserit and Trump's volunteer 2nd Amendment Saudaukar, who needs the Gom Jabbar? We're already feeling great pain over "spice"!

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Vowing To Oppose Everything Trump Attempts.

Thu, 01/12/2017 - 8:22pm — neoconned New

Since We're Going To Bring Up Dune . . .

Between Hillary's Bene Gesserit and Trump's volunteer 2nd Amendment Saudaukar, who needs the Gom Jabbar? We're already feeling great pain over "spice"!

I suppose the Gom Jabbar will be mainly for recreational use against the population whenever Hill needs a giggle, unless they need to make somebody confess something they've decided would justify invading, say, Canada...

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Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.

A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.

dervish's picture

is for Chelsea Manning, and anyone else who even considers crossing the wishes of the Empire.

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"Obama promised transparency, but Assange is the one who brought it."

Big Al's picture

His pledge to build the largest military ever? His desire to have a nuke arms race? His islamophobia, his support for a wall around the country, his support for the fake war OF terror, his support for torture, his support for privatization and deregulation?
He hasn't accomplished shit and we're still serfs.

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put together.

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With Trump Victory, China Is Now the De Facto World Leader on Climate Change

In fact, China is emerging as a global climate leader, taking the number one spot in global renewables investment for the past few years. In 2015 alone, China invested some $102 billion in renewables ― more than the U.S. and EU combined, representing around half of new wind power installations globally and roughly one-third of new solar capacity. Realizing the benefits of actively adapting to the new low carbon economy, China is committing to move ahead regardless of what the U.S. does.

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7 signs that China is serious about combating climate change

Earlier this month, Donald Trump’s economic advisor Stephen Moore claimed that limiting our carbon pollution is pointless because of China’s supposedly growing coal dependency. “Every time we shut down a coal plant in the U.S., China builds 10,” Moore told E&E News. “So how does that reduce global warming?”

Not only is Moore’s statement simply untrue, but the broader conservative theory behind it is badly outdated. China’s coal use and carbon emissions have dropped for the last two years. In 2015, China cut its coal use 3.7 percent and its emissions declined an estimated 1–2 percent, following similar decreases in 2014.

If China continues to cut its emissions, or even just keeps them at current levels, the country will be way ahead of its goal of peaking emissions by around 2030, which it laid out in 2014 and recommitted to during the Paris climate talks last December.

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The Chinese government is spurring this shift to a lower-carbon economy by reducing its indirect subsidies, such as favorable lending from state-controlled banks, for coal and other carbon-heavy industries.. “This is actually a correction for the economy because China is adopting a more market approach,” says Ranping Song, an expert on Chinese climate policy at the World Resources Institute, an international environmental research organization. “That will have an impact on emissions.”

We can’t know whether Chinese emissions will continue dropping every year, but China is committed to improving the energy efficiency of its economy and the cleanliness of its energy sources, and it’s already off to a strong start. “There is a set of things happening in China that will continue to change the trajectory of its emissions,” says Jake Schmidt, director of the international program at the Natural Resources Defense Council.

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China Usurps United States As Global Clean Energy Leader

January 9th, 2017— China invested a record $32 billion in global renewable energy projects during 2016 and is expecting to invest at least $361 billion into its own renewable energy sector by 2020, securely placing China as the leading clean energy player in the world.

Two new pieces of news have coincided to show that China is likely to overtake the United States as the most important global player in the clean energy sector.

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For the first time, there is hope. Because China, the grownup, is in charge.

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As of today at this very moment. COAL produces more electricity in China than any other source by a large margin. In fact their coal use is one of the largest in the world. Sure they are making a massive investment in renewable energy. But don't get ahead of reality.

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…"getting ahead of reality" is one of the smartest things that humans can do. In the case of China, they were fully aware of the environmental costs of lifting a billion people out of squalor into full development in the 21st century. China mitigated some of costs through their long national sacrifice of the "one child program." That alone is more than any other nation has done to address climate change by curbing population growth.

The fact is, the Chinese can do two things at the same time — produce copious pollution as they settle their population at a higher standard of living, and produce advanced energy technology and infrastructure strategies that will eliminate that pollution.

China now dominates the world in science and technology, particularly in renewable energy. They plan to invest $360bn in renewable power by 2020. Who better than China to tame climate change?

Because of their communist economy, China is the only country in the world with the public resources to take on an ambitious endeavor like saving the world. They have the wealth and initiative to deliver advanced infrastructure and energy strategies to the rest of the world. Their educated workforce is positioned to meet that challenge, with more university graduates in the fields of science, technology, engineering, and mathematics than any other country – about about five times more than the US, which stopped investing in its People decades ago. In science and engineering alone, China generates nearly 30,000 PhDs annually.

The Chinese have already produced the world's biggest radio telescope and the world's fastest supercomputer, and are building the world's largest particle accelerator and the world's most ambitious space program, with a whopping 30 missions schuled for 2017. The sheer development speed of China's science and technology says that China can deal with global warming caused by runaway capitalism in record time, too.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/resources/idt-0192822d-14f1-432b-bd25-92eab646...

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I agree that China is making great strides, having looked an unsurvivable environment in the face for quite some time now. But having killed off their ecology and poisoned everything and everyone within their country, (much of which unrestrained industrial pollution also travels around the world, carried by global air and water currents) they can never repair the losses which took billions of years to ultimately evolve.

Technology and biology are different things, and the first should, at the least, not damage/kill off the second - it's quite possible to make a decent profit without massively off-loading 'the costs' of industrial poisons, illness, death and destruction of the environment and spending a fortune in redirecting disease attribution, regulation and liability away from your own products and pollution - generally onto the victims themselves in order to knowingly continue to profit by slow murder - and if the maximization of profits by maximizing damage and hazard to everyone else had never been permitted to polluting industries by complicit government officials, we would not be in our current state.

Indecent profit gained only at the expense of others is nothing less than banditry and often slow murder simply to gain more money than one family could ever spend. Yet so many public officials are willing to allow others to continue to kill for it... or even under unconstitutional 'trade agreements' 'allow' them to sue the public of any country dry if they protest or try to protect themselves from even the most hazardous and unnecessary (if 'cost-effective'/more profitable for the corporation involved) petrochemicals/radiation/asbestos exposures.

Neither technology nor Super Jesus can save us if industrial pollution and corporate greed and lust for totalitarian power complete the destruction of our planetary life support system. The natural biology of which we consist and on which we depend is the growth which must be nurtured as we turn to greener tech, but patented and eternally profitable techological 'fixes' and replacements for life itself have been promoted by certain (polluting and other self-)interests and I do hope that this sort of thing is not what's being considered in your comment?

Personally, I'd never trust industry/for-profit 'science'...

Sanjour used to have a blog which seems to have become difficult to find in searches... Haven't read this yet, but going by his blog (which I haven't read in... several years?) it should be an interesting historical read and may be an important awareness-raiser for some... PEER Blog is another which used to be good... Much more information vanished, was altered/became difficult to find under Obama than Bush...

http://chej.org/wp-content/uploads/william_sanjour_memoir.pdf

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FROM THE FILES OF A WHISTLEBLOWER
Or how EPA was captured by the industry it regulated
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William Sanjour
12/25/13
[Suggestions welcomed at jurason@comcast.net]
[The easy access to this Website is http://www.sanjour.info]

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Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.

A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.

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We are on the same page, but we are not in the same room.

I speak from a certain point in time: Now. Here's what's real: If everyone in the world stops what they are doing right now and just forrages for food for the next 20 years and walks wherever they need to go, and produces and buys nothing — Climate change will wipe us out right on schedule.

The mistakes of the past do not matter, now.

Abstaining from those mistakes in the future will not save us.

For me, it's a game of miracles. The Chinese have the highest IQs on the planet and they work communally, not competitively in science. If anyone can do it, they can. And if they can't, the world will move on without us.

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I think China often deals with extremes. They dealt with low regulations, amassing tons and tons of wealth. That, as you point out, has caused quite a lot of pollution and suffering. However, they seem to now be trying to go "extreme" in the other direction as Pluto is pointing out. When the pendulum swings, it swings.

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Unverifiable information seems to be what they are giving us all the time now. Certainly the idea that Russians hacked the DNC/Podesta is completely unverifiable.

NBC's Richard Engel says he has been trying to confirm the oppo research on Trump for more than 4 months, without success. Other reporters have been on it too, seems like they all got the memo.

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"We've done the impossible, and that makes us mighty."

started the whole thing....etc etc.

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