Democrats isn't the only party that is in trouble

A few days ago I showed how the polls for the Dems have gone from bad to worse since the November elections.
Quite simply, the Dems deserve to lose and keep losing.

However, so do the Republicans.

By a 54 – 38 percent margin, American voters want the Democratic Party to win control of the U.S. House of Representatives. This is the widest margin ever measured for this question in a Quinnipiac University poll, exceeding a 5 percentage point margin for Republicans in 2013.

The Republican policy proposals are horrendous to say the least.
They seem to show particular disdain for their own working-class supporters. Eventually those voters are going to notice that their party despises them.

US Secretary of Housing and Urban Development Ben Carson has sparked outrage after describing poverty as a "state of mind".
During an interview with Sirius XM radio on Tuesday, Mr Carson suggested people are poor because they learned the "wrong mindset" from their parents.
The retired neurosurgeon oversees a department that manages housing for the country's low-income population.

Many poor Republicans embrace self-loathing and punching down. That much is obvious, but I'm betting that a lot don't.
Increasingly Young Republicans are figuring out that their party simply doesn't care about them.

Now, an incredible new study by the Pew Research Center shows that Republicans are not only failing to make gains with young people as time passes but are also shedding them at a rapid clip...
In general, Pew finds that most party identification is "sticky" and voters rarely budge from their party affiliation.

Except young Republicans.

It's been reported often and for many years that Republicans are losing younger people, but what is most shocking about the Pew study is the narrow window in which this wave of defections occurred. In the relatively short time frame of December 2015 to March 2017, nearly half of all young Republicans left their party at some point, with roughly a quarter bidding the GOP adieu for good.

No other group, by age or party, wavered so much or defected in such substantial numbers...

The half of young Republicans who left the party were not ones who left in 2008 because of former President Barack Obama, or ones who left over Republican obstruction in Congress, or even ones who left over the emergence of President Trump as a front-runner in the GOP. By December 2015, those folks were long gone.

No, the half of young Republicans who wobbled or left the party altogether were die-hard enough to be on board with the GOP all the way through the moment that Trump sat well atop the primary polls.

Obviously that is not a sustainable trend for the GOP.
And remember, this is before the next recession hits, which according to economists will probably be before the 2018 election.
What's more, these young republicans are also part of the same millennial group being crushed under student debt.

Nearly half of college students surveyed earlier this year said they expected to be helped by the federal government’s various student loan forgiveness programs. But new government figures suggest that their hoped-for windfall won’t be that generous.

In a first-of-its-kind public analysis, the U.S. Department of the Education projects that borrowers who next year enroll in loan forgiveness programs would, on average, repay every penny they borrowed, and then some...
In fact, the feds project that just 53 percent of debtors who’d enroll in these plans in the 2018 fiscal year would receive any forgiveness at all, according to estimates made public on Wednesday. Even that estimate may be too high, separate government figures suggest.

Republican approval numbers are dumping almost as bad as Democratic approval numbers are.
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To say that there is an opportunity here is an understatement.
To take advantage of that opportunity requires vision that neither party's establishment has.

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in both parties. Republicans have moderate establishment conservatives vs. Tea Party/Trumpian wingnuts and Dems have moderate establishment liberals vs. Berniecrat leftists.

We should really have 4 parties so everyone has a party that more closely reflects their views. It will be funny when the moderate establishment conservatives and the moderate establishment liberals realize how similar they are and-

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No wait, we shouldn't do that that's a terrible idea how do I delete this

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dervish's picture

@Dopeman I agree with the Rand Paul faction Republicans about 50 % as often as I do with establishment Dems. It's not enough to be a strong correlation yet, but the fracture lines are clearly visible. If the DNC continues along its corporate trajectory, expect a realignment.

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"Obama promised transparency, but Assange is the one who brought it."

@dervish yeah, I have a good friend who is libertarian. There are a few things we always agree on and more than a few on which we don't, and won't, ever.

During the primaries last year he supported Rand Paul, but once Rand was out he said he would vote for Bernie Sanders over any of the Republicans.

He said Bernie is the most honest politician he's seen on the national stage since Ron Paul (who he considers a god).

He despises both Hillary and Trump, and ended up voting for Trump because he hates Hillary just a little bit more.

That's the kind of real crossover appeal Bernie and his politics have that the Dem establishment knows it can never, ever admit exists.

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dervish's picture

@Dopeman They stake their entire future on enlisting new voters from marginalized communities, but the very moment that one of those marginalized voters starts asking questions, they close ranks and disown them. They actually have a low-information strategy, because those voters are the easiest to manage.

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"Obama promised transparency, but Assange is the one who brought it."

@Dopeman Agree about the split, but I wouldn't use the word "moderate" to describe the Clinton wing. They're Corporate Extremists.

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SparkyGump's picture

You'd think corporate lackeys with no convictions would just rake in them voters. No?

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The real SparkyGump has passed. It was an honor being your human.

Big Al's picture

start demanding a new political system to replace this inherently undemocratic system. Until then, the duopoly and the oligarchy it represents will remain in power.

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Pricknick's picture

@Big Al @Big Al
Fact of the day!

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Regardless of the path in life I chose, I realize it's always forward, never straight.

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@Big Al making peace with one head doesn't save you from the other one.

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"Obama promised transparency, but Assange is the one who brought it."

Cant Stop the Macedonian Signal's picture

@dervish Those of us who used to play D&D know this phenomenon:

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Meet Demogorgon, prince of demons. He has two heads. The heads don't like each other, and are constantly arguing.

But they'll get together and kill you anyway.

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"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha

"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver

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@Big Al as long as we continue to have the duopoly of two corporate parties, both parties will continue to shed membership and voter participation will continue to decline. There is no lesser evil left. They are both evil, just in slightly different ways so there is no real choice and a lot of people are realizing that.

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Do I hear the sound of guillotines being constructed?

“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~ President John F. Kennedy

Big Al's picture

@gulfgal98 over one hundred years ago about the duopoly that still resonate today, maybe we should get it through our heads it ain't working.

The thing is gg, this is a giant mafia, a literal criminal enterprise at the top, preying on everyone else for money, wealth and power and it remains that way because of this political system. They have to be stopped, I've said it so many times I've almost given up writing. I don't know what else to say anymore.

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Hillbilly Dem's picture

@Big Al

Top comment.

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"Just call me Hillbilly Dem(exit)."
-H/T to Wavey Davey

ggersh's picture

of both parties are fleeing, so they must be seeing the light
as to what is being done to them, hopefully they coalesce to
take back control of what was once their government.

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I never knew that the term "Never Again" only pertained to
those born Jewish

"Antisemite used to be someone who didn't like Jews
now it's someone who Jews don't like"

Heard from Margaret Kimberley

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can be our base. And there's more than a few disaffected old geezers and geezettes that'll go along with them.

There will never be a better time.

EDIT; gezettes

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I'm tired of this back-slapping "Isn't humanity neat?" bullshit. We're a virus with shoes, okay? That's all we are. - Bill Hicks

Politics is the entertainment branch of industry. - Frank Zappa

k9disc's picture

This makes me a bit hopeful.

Perhaps Drumpf broke the dyke and let the floodwaters out.

I could see people going into politics, making sense and winning despite or maybe to spite the money.

Everybody knows that corporate runs the place, and we're sick of it. Maybe Drumpf is a positive error that changes the political game.

The Establishement is surrounded. It's not easy to fire with purpose and create a flank from that position.

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“Tactics without strategy is the noise before defeat.” ~ Sun Tzu

The Rep… fascist base is remarkably loyal, regardless of its grumbling. The Republican death won't happen from demographic change (old conservatives dying) for something like 20 years.
Another myth I'd like to point out is what I call "Hillary's Magic Mexicans". If the Democrats keep up their policy of taking for granted the latino vote because of identity politics latino voting will drop and if the Rs actually stop being overtly racist the latino vote will not be a given, far from it.The same applies for just about every demographic except the young.
American politics is in a death race - who will die first, the corrupt Democrats or the evil Republicans, and the Democrats are losing.

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On to Biden since 1973