Democratic Candidates who made the cut for CNN's debates

https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/17/politics/2020-democratic-candidates-cnn-d...

The debate will be held over two nights in Detroit on July 30 and 31 at 8 p.m. ET.

1) Colorado senator Michael Bennet

2) Former vice-president Joe Biden

3) New Jersey senator Cory Booker

4) Montana governor Steve Bullock

5) South Bend, Indiana, mayor Pete Buttigieg

6) Former Housing and Urban Development secretary Julián Castro

7) New York mayor Bill de Blasio

8) Former Maryland representative John Delaney

9) Hawaii representative Tulsi Gabbard

10) New York senator Kirsten Gillibrand

11) California senator Kamala Harris

12) Former Colorado governor John Hickenlooper

13) Washington governor Jay Inslee

14) Minnesota senator Amy Klobuchar

15) Former Texas representative Beto O’Rourke

16) Ohio representative Tim Ryan

17) Vermont senator Bernie Sanders

18) Massachusetts senator Elizabeth Warren

19) Author Marianne Williamson

20) Businessman Andrew Yang

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Intended to drown out Bernie and Tulsi.

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Shahryar's picture

as we see above, Bennett, Biden, Booker....it's all alphabetical, ending with Yang.

but this NPR list of 14 who qualified on both counts starts off thusly:

former Vice President Joe Biden, California Sen. Kamala Harris, New Jersey Sen. Cory Booker, South Bend, Ind., Mayor Pete Buttigieg, former Housing and Urban Development Secretary Julián Castro, Hawaii Rep. Tulsi Gabbard, New York Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand, Washington Gov. Jay Inslee, Minnesota Sen. Amy Klobuchar, former Texas Rep. Beto O'Rourke, Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders, Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren, author and spiritual adviser Marianne Williamson, and entrepreneur Andrew Yang.

Note that once it gets past Harris it reverts to alphabetical order. So it's a deliberate placement of Harris into an early portion of the list. Somebody wants her to be the nominee. At the DNC? NPR?

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@Shahryar I know so many "good Democrats" who still rely on NPR news. They think I've gone down a rabbit hole of cynicism.

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@Shahryar Or National Petroleum Radio?

It's actually both...

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@Shahryar @Shahryar

out of twenty who are capable of being honest.

I don't really know Marianne Williamson.

Jay Inslee and Bill de Blasio were people I used to like, somewhat, especially Inslee, before we descended into total fascism. Once you descend into fascism, people's character traits play out differently. The cost of being virtuous goes up and that puts stress on people's characters and many of them cease to be reliable.

Tulsi and Bernie would like to be honest and are trying to be, most of the time.

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Actually, the issue at stake is patriotism. You must return to your world and put an end to the Commies. All it takes are a few good men.
--Q

Exit polls not involving George W. Bush or Hillary Clinton tend to be quite accurate.
--Doug Hatlem

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@Shahryar

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Actually, the issue at stake is patriotism. You must return to your world and put an end to the Commies. All it takes are a few good men.
--Q

Exit polls not involving George W. Bush or Hillary Clinton tend to be quite accurate.
--Doug Hatlem

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as though he'd qualified. signed,

baffled in the 4-corners

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@wendy davis I noticed that earlier Wendy, did a search on "Gravel dem debates" and up popped an article explaining that there are TWO criteria for getting on the debate stage -- one being number of donors and the other being one's standing in the polls. The Gravel team said that he had not been included in many of the polls they're basing it on, which is unfair (typical DNC), so his legal team will be discussing it with the DNC.

When I saw your comment I did the same search and didn't find the article. My search engine is probably about as honest as the DNC. Leaving him off the polls pretty much guarantees that he can't make the 2nd criteria. I hope his attorneys can get him into the 2nd debate.

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@laurel

wow, what shite. wish i could remember how the D coup against the league of women voters being in charge of the 'debates' went, but...keep 'em out, , and especially third parties, have pre-arranged Qs for each candiate seem to have been the incentive. what a fine party it is!

i suppose mike's twitter account have more; i'll look when (if?) i have the time. ; )

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https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1988-10-08-me-2852-story.html

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@HenryAWallace

she also called them 'joint press conferences', which is how i've seen any i'd even bothered to watch a number of years ago; as in "debates" in quotation marks.

but on twitter, and i wish it were on war and imperialism, but like howie hawkins, this is the must-need flavor of the day, i guess:

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@wendy davis BFD. Look what good having a plan did for Bernie. Pardon me, while I sneeze...ah...ah...ah..horseshit.

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@Alligator Ed

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@Alligator Ed

plan' that you've referenced, but i'd told @laurel i'd check on mike's twitter feed to try to corroborate what she'd found. i'm pretty sure that at the start he'd said he wasn't in this to actually win, but just wanted to be on the stage to espouse his anti-imperialist and direct democracy messages, but later he'd said 'i'm in it to win'. no, not a snowball's chance in hell, but campaigning is where one can leave one's mark, no?

but by my reckoning, his peace campaign is stronger than green socialist howie hawkins' by now, although i do like klein's 'socialize these sectors' on his platform.

sorry to be so late; RL here went pretty much tits-up about mid-day yesterday. but i'm not getting your 'horsehit' sneeze. he just said they were 'considering', didn't he? if it weren't televised, who would agree to join with him, anyhoo? but lord, some of the names running i've never even heard of, i swear.

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@Alligator Ed

It's pretty clear he's not actually expecting to become President, but rather is using a presidential campaign as a way of telling the truth in public.

That's how hard it's gotten to tell the truth in public.

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Actually, the issue at stake is patriotism. You must return to your world and put an end to the Commies. All it takes are a few good men.
--Q

Exit polls not involving George W. Bush or Hillary Clinton tend to be quite accurate.
--Doug Hatlem

Diablo

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@HenryAWallace But "looks have nothing to do with it".

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about the idea of "making the cut" for the presidential debates.

Bet the League of Women's Voters is glad they walked away in 1988.

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Actually, the issue at stake is patriotism. You must return to your world and put an end to the Commies. All it takes are a few good men.
--Q

Exit polls not involving George W. Bush or Hillary Clinton tend to be quite accurate.
--Doug Hatlem