Dead Soldiers Deserve To Have Their Flag Taken Up.

Not Again

One of the things that has bugged me for years is the idea that somehow demanding accountability for the death of a soldier is disrespectful to the soldier.

A soldier is a human being, and as such deserves to be treated like such. S/He is not a prop to be held up to display our piety towards the MIC. If anything, they are as much a casualty of their own side's mistakes and hubris, as they are a casualty of enemy fire. Soldiers deaths, like any life ripped from this planet before their time, need to be examined, and the reasons justified or vilified.

Blaming the deaths on the vagaries of "War" demand an immediate justification FOR that war. You cannot blame a nebulous "enemy" for a death when the entire reason for the soldier being in that position to be killed is the whims of a politician who thought it would score a few points with the hawk demographic. Every death, every maiming, and every person who comes back changed is the fault of those that sent them there, NOT the intended target of the MIC's Wrath.

And the numbers are astounding. Over half a MILLION service members have come to the VA in recent years, just from our last two "Wars" which of course are totally over now. Va Stats These casualties are of course not referred to by the politicians who eagerly clamor to create even more damaged goods, all in the name of "defeating Terror" that they themselves created.

The time to demand accountability is while the wounds are still fresh. While the mourning is still a wound that needs to be treated. Left alone to "Heal", the damage becomes an acceptable abscess in the body politic. An oozing sore that many will claim has always been there. This mentality continues to those that have never seen a battlefield, and even tiny bodies are hand-waved away with the idea that it is always "Too Soon" to discuss the ramifications of the deaths that occurred.

Grieve, but know that it is not diminishing to question WHY. It is the accepting of the dogma of the heroic sacrifice that the 1% depend upon to ensure a fresh supply of bodies for their wars of acquisition. It is no longer a case of wars for defense, or defense of others, or any of the other pretty little covers that they dress up this mass slaughter with. It is merely a facilitation of the transfer of wealth, set to patriotic speeches and the wails of families.

[video:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1PNvopXjbg]

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JayRaye's picture

thx, dmw

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detroitmechworks's picture

Much of what I used to write was heavily self-censored.
Personally I think I'm better with the filter off. Smile

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shaharazade's picture

You have expressed my sentiments about the glorification of these useless insane 'wars' we send soldiers to kill and be killed or maimed in. Not to mention the psychic damage done to those who fight in these endless 'humanitarian' wars, which create an endless supply of extremists who need to be eliminated. Tragic that a lot of people out of fear, 'patriotism' and nationalism believe this endless war on terra is necessary. Lizard brained chest thumping hawks who now seem to be by-partisanly united and any pol who calls this madness for what it is is branded a terrorist supporter.

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detroitmechworks's picture

is how many hawks will proclaim loudly that "They're all Volunteers" when speaking about the troops.
Somehow the idea that one was willing to sacrifice for your fellow man, makes it just fine and dandy to collect on that offer with no remorse.
Sigh.

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mimi's picture

the idea that all the "volunteer" soldiers are by default supporting the war efforts and deployments, they are sent into. There are lots of soldiers, who know when or if the war they are sent into fighting is unreasonable and unjust. They sacrifice not only with their bodies, but also their sane intelligence, because they have to suppress their thoughts and feelings, being contractually bound to obey. These sacrifices are mostly on the emotional and psychological level and they are almost never acknowledged by the public.

If a Veteran speaks out angrily, they come up with a lot of psychological bubble blah blah (PTSD etc) and often increase the pains by ignoring that the wounds come from having been ordered to fight in unjust and aggressive wars and against civilians that have done nothing wrong. So they are forced into actions that were by no means what they were told they would be, especially not noble and not honorable either.

You have to have visible wounds, disabilities that anyone with eyesight in tact, can understand. Then most people still hesitate to bombard the Veteran with "yeah, ... but you (were so dumb) to volunteer.

The IGTN group on the gos may have had some meaning in the very early years of 2004-2005, after that it became a mechanical thingy. You express some "empathy" and "condolences" in appropriate manners, more for making yourself feeling less guilty than anything else. It's the civil thing to have as a group over there. ... People, who enlisted in the later years, would have had the chance at least to think about what they would be asked to do in Iraq or Afghanistan. People, who enlisted in 2000 had no clue about what or who is GWBush all about and no imagination about an 9/11 terrorism event, nor could they have known what they then would be served with politically and with what kind of military response. Those volunteered because probably they needed a chance to have a job and get education benefits, they didn't volunteer to participate in dumb and unjust wars. They were thrown into it. It was nice to hear Obama say he is against dumb wars. So, he believes that to continue dumb wars would be "welcomed" by the future Veteran groups? I never understood why Obama didn't understand that he betrayed a lot of people, soldiers and Veterans especially and he can sweet talk all his reasons ad nauseam, they don't get any more convincing.

When reading your diary and what I mentioned here in the comment, I was counting how many German soldiers didn't volunteer and knew that Hitler's actions were the ones of a mad man at least by 1940. Of course everyone said, heh you are Nazis, so that's what you get for being a Hitler enabler (mostly being young boys and teenagers - big enablers - sure - how about calling them seduced and betrayed and used? And most of them hadn't a choice to go voluntarily (the "believers" joined the NSDAP and SS), but those who didn't were forced into military service by 1939. In any case, I counted a handful males in my parent's generation, who didn't volunteer and knew they were in the wrong war. They either died in the war and those who survived were very silent and in shock. But I remember my father once having said: "We were all betrayed and used". Nobody would accept that or believe a German saying that, so nobody said it. But it was true for some of Germany's soldiers, if you like it or not. Bystanding to the racism against the Jewish population is a more truthful and complex accusation and I don't want that to be misunderstood and mixed up, please.

And about self-censor .... I myself wasn't even aware of how much I censored myself. It became a burden and a conflict in my mind. I couldn't stand it anymore. So, I think it's good to be aware of one's self-censoring way of expressing oneself and stop doing it, when it means you deny yourself your opinions for the sake of others, who might not like them.

Thanks for the diary.

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mimi's picture

an expression in my previous posting. So I changed it. Otherwise nothing new in the comment. Sorry.

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joe shikspack's picture

thanks for the thoughts.

in a better country we would find a way to front load the process in order to assure that the engagement that we are sending people into is truly a just cause and that the means proposed are proportional, directed at the correct people and likely to succeed. we used to have at least the shadow of that before our demockery reached an advanced state. the constitution used to say that a deliberative body that (allegedly) represented the people had to vote to declare war before war was engaged in, but, well, that damned piece of paper is clearly obsolete. even with that safety margin, unjust wars were quite frequently engaged in. hell, unjust wars (along with dishonest diplomacy) are how we enforced our claim to a lot of the land mass that we call a country.

at the bottom of it, you're right, demanding accountability may not redeem the sacrifice of a particular soldier, but it seems like the right way to make sure that the system makes fewer errors in applying military force which inevitably costs lives.

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I belong to a very small local Peace vigil. In the four years that I have participated with them, we have had many opportunities to talk to people about their views on war. While many are opposed to war in general, we encounter a small number of vocal advocates who accuse us of not supporting our troops. For me, this is an oxymoron, the very idea of supporting war is somehow supporting the troops.

Last year, we had a man and his wife stop by. After some pleasantries about the weather and about their dog, he opened up to us. He was in his thirties and a veteran of three tours in Afghanistan and one tour in Iraq. Like many others who volunteered, he said that he thought he was going to fight for democracy. Once he got over there, the stark reality of it all immediately hit him. What was happening on the ground contrasted with what they were being told. His first words to describe it were that the government lies to its troops and it is lying to the people.

He spoke of how he had lost a number of his fellow soldiers and every Father's Day is when it hits him that some of them had families that would never see their fathers again. He said that after returning he had trouble finding a job and the VA was worthless to him and other veterans. I and my fellow Peace vigil guys were all in tears. We thanked him and his wife for having the courage to tell us his story.

It angers me to no end that so many of our elected officials are so eager to send our young people off to fight illegal wars of choice and then when they return, they are neglected and forgotten. And every one of them is permanently damaged in some way. Sad

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Is that the VA in Portland is actually worth a damn.
But that's the RARE exception. California was nightmare of bureaucracy and condescension.

Thanks for the feedback and the sad truth. Always amazes me how hawks can dismiss the actual experience of vets because it is not the narrative they wish to push.

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