British MPs prove themselves every bit as corrupt as American counterparts
Brief note here on ongoing tragedy in Kensington.
The ashes aren't even cold yet and smoke fills the sky of London. Grenfell Towers, a high rise estate (British Council House) caught fire June 13, 2017 in a massive conflagration, which has predicted years before.
This estate had been built in the 70's but "upgraded" with energy efficient materials:
We’ve been here before. In 2009, a tower block fire at Lakanal House in Camberwell, south London led to the loss of six lives and Southwark Council’s criminal prosecution for fire safety lapses (the council paid a £570,000 fine.) Just three months ago, it was reported that a government delay in reviewing fire safety regulations for tower blocks – one of the recommendations made after the Lakanal House inquest – could lead to future tragedies. At that time, fire safety expert Sam Webb was reported as saying that there is a “conflict” between fire safety and the materials used to make buildings more energy efficient (“The materials used are not fire-resistant and in some cases they’re flammable.”) We know that the 1970s-built Grenfell Tower had recently been refurbished with modern materials, and that questions have been raised by people who escaped the building about whether the new cladding might have ignited and spread the fire: one man on LBC Radio this morning said that “the cladding went up like a matchstick”. Conservative MP Mike Penning, a former firefighter, told BBC News that “the cladding was clearly spreading the fire… We need to find out what went on.”
A prior Parliamentary debate, January 13, 2016, noted that Tories vote down law requiring landlords make their homes fit for human habitation.
You may notice the debate is carried by one Jeremy Corbyn, speaking for Labour, and one David Cameron speaking for corruption.
Conservative MPs have voted to reject a proposed rule that would have required private landlords to make their homes “fit for human habitation”.
The vote, which came on Tuesday night, was on proposed amendment to the Government’s new Housing and Planning Bill – a raft of new laws aimed at reforming housing law.
The Labour-proposed amendment was rejected by 312 votes to 219, however.According to Parliament’s register of interests, 72 of the MPs who voted against the amendment are themselves landlords who derive an income from a property.
Cameron cried: "We can't afford it". True, it might have detracted from his profits.
According to Parliament’s register of interests, the 72 MPs who are registered as deriving income from property of over £10,000 a year and who voted against the law are:
Nigel Adams
Stuart Andrew
Victoria Atkins
Jake Berry
James Berry
Bob Blackman
Robert Buckland
Alun Cairns
David Cameron
Alex Chalk...etc.
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Questions:
1. Will building collapse straight down like the World Trade Center?
2. Will anybody of the criminally-negligent property managers go to prison?
3. Will the Tories face significant recrimination for this preventable disaster?
Especially interesting in light of the recent PBS/BBC
series on Victorian slums. The conclusion of the series was that political action by slum dwellers helped improve conditions for those who lived and worked in those slums. Yet now we see similar problems over 100 years later with the same mealy-mouthed, self-serving excuses by those in power. SSDD
"The object of persecution is persecution. The object of torture is torture. The object of power is power. Now do you begin to understand me?" ~Orwell, "1984"
Sadly, the more things change, the more they remain the same
I had the same thought.
"The object of persecution is persecution. The object of torture is torture. The object of power is power. Now do you begin to understand me?" ~Orwell, "1984"
answers
no
no
no
bygorry
answers:
1. It well may. Cat only knows what the structure of the tower block is really made of!
2. No.
3. No. Surely you jest!
"US govt/military = bad. Russian govt/military = bad. Any politician wanting power = bad. Anyone wielding power = bad." --Shahryar
"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides
I am both shocked and dismayed.
s/
Don't the jail landlords in India for this kind of shit? Are we now to look to India to be the leader in protecting infants from cheap ass landlords?
wtf?
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981
The London tower fire led in the 3am to 4 am time slot on
national news, but the shooting at the GOP congressional baseball practice has completely eclipsed all other stories. Even with little to no new information, none of the big three news outlets will let this go. No one had died from their injuries. I doubt that victims of the tower fire in London were as lucky.
"The object of persecution is persecution. The object of torture is torture. The object of power is power. Now do you begin to understand me?" ~Orwell, "1984"
At least 6 dead so far
Yeah, but . . .
the film of the building going up like a torch was really spectacular. I thought it would get more play. It appears to me that someone wanted to move on.
The thought of people dying in that inferno makes me sick. The probability that nobody will be punished creates an anger for which I lack the words to express.
They couldn't afford to fix it.
fatalities in London
BBC reports 12 known dead in the tower fire.
-- Steve McQueen as Fire Chief O'Hallorhan, closing scene, The Towering Inferno
And the fact remains: "how to build them" is: don't. Landed space, space on the ground, is a biological necessity of human beings. And it's long past time we faced the fact accordingly, and tailored all of our actions to reflect it.
"US govt/military = bad. Russian govt/military = bad. Any politician wanting power = bad. Anyone wielding power = bad." --Shahryar
"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides
Residents of the building
had complained to the management and authorities about problems with the building's safety, including poor lighting of the fire escapes, lack of adequate fire alarms, and dated electrical systems for several years. None of those issues were ever addressed.
There were 125 families living in that building and the entire building was engulfed in less than one hour. I have seen interviews of residents who escaped and none of them thus far interviewed lived above the ninth floor. As quickly as the blaze spread and the lack of an adequate alarm system in the building, I am afraid that the death toll will end up being very high. This is another horrible tragedy that should have been preventable.
Do I hear the sound of guillotines being constructed?
“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~ President John F. Kennedy
I'm sure that MPs are hoping this story dies in obscurity,
just as the victims have. Let's hope Corbyn takes on this cause like an English Bulldog.
"The object of persecution is persecution. The object of torture is torture. The object of power is power. Now do you begin to understand me?" ~Orwell, "1984"
Regulation just costs the job creators money.....
You want jobs or not!
Our oligarchs are now global. They don't give FF about the common people. Commoners are there to serve the oligarchy. If that means they die in war, burn up in a building, or just languish until death, it doesn't matter as long as the profit margin and bonuses add up. .
"Religion is what keeps the poor from murdering the rich."--Napoleon
Never
stay in a hotel/motel room above the 8th floor. That's how high fire department ladder units reach.
Dear Dems: You lost the WH, Senate, House, dozens of governors, state level SOS and AG and about 1,000 state legislative seats. Maybe...you're doing something wrong.
I remember a fire in downtown Chicago a few years back.
It was in a Cook County building. All buildings are required to have sprinkler systems. This one didn't. It seems that the County exempted it's own buildings from the requirement.
Fire started in a file room where gasoline was stored. I think people died.
Hmmm! Storing gasoline along with old dry paper. What could go wtong?
I've seen lots of changes. What doesn't change is people. Same old hairless apes.
I'm afraid the number of people killed
by this fire will be very large. The full story will likely reveal gross negligence on the part of authorities at more than one level. Apparently they had been repeatedly warned, for years, that something exactly like this would happen.
native
The stories of trapped people reminds me of the
Triangle Factory fire near the turn of the last century in NYC. The city was angry when the workers held a strike, but felt guilty when they died under sweatshop conditions.
"The object of persecution is persecution. The object of torture is torture. The object of power is power. Now do you begin to understand me?" ~Orwell, "1984"
The Triangle Shirt Factory was a vertical sweatshop
In this country, maybe. But sweatshops in
third world countries have been just as bad.
I was thinking of the firetrap angle. There have been nightclub fires where patrons have been trapped and couldn't get out for basically the same reason--to restrict access to the building to maximize profit.
But my sympathies always go out to people trapped by fire. In the case of the fire in London, residents had been complaining about lack of fire alarms. There was no building-wide sprinkler system. The residents were told to shelter in place because the stairwells weren't adequate for a building-wide evacuation. There was no consideration for the people living in that building, leaving many trapped and desperate.
A woman threw her infant from nine floors up into the arms of someone who happened to be in the right place at the right time. Nine floors! That made me think of all the workers in the Triangle factory who jumped to their deaths.
"The object of persecution is persecution. The object of torture is torture. The object of power is power. Now do you begin to understand me?" ~Orwell, "1984"
Here is something from a mate
Murdochs Sun can go to hell
http://www.siliconinvestor.com/readmsg.aspx?msgid=31147018
I never knew that the term "Never Again" only pertained to
those born Jewish
"Antisemite used to be someone who didn't like Jews
now it's someone who Jews don't like"
Heard from Margaret Kimberley
Thanks for that Tweet, ggersh. Folks woke to media slanderers
is always one of the best signs of potential that the oligarchy can be overthrown.
Everything, as far as I'm concerned, starts with how and what media we take in. For one thing, it creates disposition to certain points of view and preys upon insecurities and folks' inability to decipher the dazzling bullshit manufactured controversy, from the important things that really effect our lives which are not being covered.
I truly believe that if people had no corporate media (MSM) intake we'd be able to get the kind of society we seek. Because everybody understands, in a fundamental way, the elemental socialist truths of which we speak here, when one can stand apart from the propaganda that purposefully mars their better angels.
That guy's reaction to Murdoch's Sun is instructive. If only we could get more to reflexively reject and expose these slanderous propaganda rags like Mick did. He understands that the people who own "the news" are, in most instances, oligarchs who use their media property to preserve the status quo to ensure their pillaging continues, and employ malleable, morally suspect people with enough blood money to live a pampered life, along as they malign any and all LW social movements/dissent by supplying a relentless barrage of hit-pieces, ad hominem attacks, manufactured controversy, celebrity gossip and salacious titillation to distract and ultimately divide and conquer the masses.
What we need is more public displays of dissent against all propaganda. This guy gets it too:
"If I should ever die, God forbid, let this be my epitaph:
THE ONLY PROOF HE NEEDED
FOR THE EXISTENCE OF GOD
WAS MUSIC"
- Kurt Vonnegut
Brilliantly said MFQ
nothing but protecting their fiefdoms while pretending to inform
the "deplorables" of what exactly they must do.
I think the people are waking up to the fact the elites have
bought the govt and are using the hired hands (the 546) to
be the guardians for the ultra elites, the ones truly calling
the shots.
Again brilliantly said.
I never knew that the term "Never Again" only pertained to
those born Jewish
"Antisemite used to be someone who didn't like Jews
now it's someone who Jews don't like"
Heard from Margaret Kimberley
Cladding and stay put orders to be re-examined.
Thank you for this timely research
@Alligator Ed I'm sure you remember
My daughter had friends whom she had gone to high school in that one.
And so called city inspectors either turned a blind eye to it after numerous complaints, or as city records show, it hadn't been inspected once in 30 years.
All such a very tragic loss of life and horrible way to go.
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/police-casualties-oakland-california-warehou...
I was unaware of this.
@Alligator Ed The Station
No snowflake in an avalanche feels responsible. -- Voltaire
Thank you for the correction.
@Alligator Ed I don't know
No snowflake in an avalanche feels responsible. -- Voltaire
Anything to make a pound
P.S. I didn't realize Voltaire was so prescient. Did he have nothing to say about SJWs?
Eyewitness tells of possible police & fire miscalculation
leading to unnecessary deaths, including many children.
"If I should ever die, God forbid, let this be my epitaph:
THE ONLY PROOF HE NEEDED
FOR THE EXISTENCE OF GOD
WAS MUSIC"
- Kurt Vonnegut