Briefly noted: Obama plays victim card
Submitted by Alligator Ed on Sat, 12/24/2016 - 12:58am
Outgoing president and dissembler-in-chief Barry Obama has learned one thing from protege Killary Clinton and he has learned it well. Expect to see more of this.
This seems to be the only thing he's learned in an administration bereft of legitimate positive accomplishment.
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Wow, this is the year the DNC
Wow, this is the year the DNC all top hitters are sore losers and whiny crybabies! They could have done better during the Obama administration, they could have done better this November(Bernie), but instead they picked to be corporate toadies and are suffering for it. To bad, so sad, sucks to be them!
So long, and thanks for all the fish
What a contrast
Sniveling over his treatment by Fox. Sickening. There once was a President who stood up in front of America and proclaimed, "I welcome their hatred!"
It's a contrast that couldn't be more stark.
He survived two terms
...and by that I mean he's still breathing. I actually think that is an accomplishement.
'What we are left with is an agency mandated to ensure transparency and disclosure that is actually working to keep the public in the dark' - Ann M. Ravel, former FEC member
Yes, agreed. But if he is going to get nothing but obstruction
he should have fought the good fight, using the bully pulpit. Really nothing to loose.
Hillary would have been in the same boat, and use the same ducking techniques. And the needle moves backwards.
You may choose to look the other way, but you can never say again you did not know. ~ William Wiberforce
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Hillary WAS in the same boat with Obama and the Neocons
At first it seemed like a "new day." I'll grant you that. The world thought so, too. Anyone who beat the insane Mr. McCain and his horse Trigger, would have won the Nobel [i sure hope there will be] Peace Prize — and started the term off with a bang
I counted down the First One Hundred Days waiting for the banks to be nationalized — that is, broken apart, made financially whole with judicious use of Tarp funds, the now smaller banking groups operating operating in the black and their profits paying back Tarp, and US foreclosures fixed with loan extensions ending the middle class asset stripping process. Then, after the protective regulations were put back in place, the banks being privatized again. Or, not, if there was obstruction.
Instead I got two-terms-worth of Hillary the Barbarian*:
• The biggest banking exec bonuses in US History, including the present.
• A no-go on Guantanamo.
• A no-go on the Public Option.
• The Afghan Surge kicking off the next 8 years of war.
• *A Neocon Secretary of State destroying Shia nations in the ME and running guns to the Sunni mercenaries, who would then become ISIS.
Of course, the two-term run wasn't all bad. By the end of Obama's presidency, Gays could get married legally.
[Edit for adjective]
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I am thankful for health insurance
I wish it wasn't insurance and was instead a single payer system, but I might die or go bankrupt a lot faster with the old system. I'm lucky to live in California, which hasn't been so politically hostile to it.
Beware the bullshit factories.
I wanted to mention health insurance
…but it didn't fit in with my jeremiad.
I was happy for the ACA to go live and scrambled to get information out there and see people signed up.
Knowing full well it was unsustainable because the corrupt souls of the US body politic wanted to turn pain, suffering, and death extortion into a profitable commodity — I also knew the first several years would be the best it could be. It would be a miracle for many people, and that was key.
I used to say, "I need the American people to experience the PPACA for just 18 months, and we've won." What I was meant was, I wanted them to experience health care as a human right, which is a mandate among the league of nations and fully realized in most.
I calculated that if Americans could experience a basic human right (the first one in history for them) like universal health care, they would never go back. They would understand it and begin to respect their own humanity. And that would be an inflection point around which civilization could evolve here in the colonies.
I think that it worked, although 18 months was a bit ambitious. I think it is now physically impossible to once again impose "death by medical neglect" as the standard default of US national health care policy, as it has been until just five years ago. (Plus, it is a recognized human rights atrocity, although Americans don't think in those terms.)
Watching Republicans try to figure this out in their flat smooth brains is one of the great entertainments of the coming year.
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I totally agree
There is a much greater awareness now of the killer scam that is health insurance than there was prior to the ACA. I think it makes single payer more likely. If Trump kills the ACA (and millions of people with it), single payer could come about in a way similar to what happened in Canada -- it started with the provinces.
Beware the bullshit factories.
I qualified for Medicare in my early 30s
...but before that came to be, I understood myself to be medically expendible. It was a shitty feeling. Scary.
'What we are left with is an agency mandated to ensure transparency and disclosure that is actually working to keep the public in the dark' - Ann M. Ravel, former FEC member
The "obstruction" was theater for the chumps.
He never intended to implement a progressive program. Podesta emails show him bought by Citigroup in 2003.
Obama was a corrupt fraud from the beginning. My mistake was to think he was "doing the best he could", given the horrible republicans. It is possible that he now sickens me more than the Clintons do. Legacy!
Mr. Obama is exposed and knows it. So he is a bit miffed.
Still those sacks of gold will be a comfort.
Obama and Hillary
are right down in the pit of my esteem where the Repukes are. And both make me sicker than the Repuke's even. While I will blame every Repugnant voter for the last 40 years or so for Trump, Obummer and Shillary deserve about half of that blame, if not a bit more.
I'm sure those sacks of gold will be a comfort to him, and with our new Ministry of Truth in play, maybe they'll recruit him for spokesperson? He DOES do one hell of a snow job, a very important skill for the TPTB to use to their continued advantage. And there'll still be lots of those around who still worship him to eat that mess up and call the rest of us racists for not being as enthusiastic about that as they'd like.
Only a fool lets someone else tell him who his enemy is. Assata Shakur
Wasn't a derogatory a round-back?
Originally I think meaning a woman who would lie down with men (plural). =Whore. He talked big with grand oratory but rolled over most of the time, or snuck around back (snuck=sneaked, how I learned it).
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think you want "roundheels".
Easy to put on her back.
First used to describe boxers who got ko'd a lot.
Edit. Removed hard-rocking, but probably offensive track.
"Maybe it's you (Taylor)" by group Roundheels
He calls Taylor names, which is so wrong.
Legacy
Always thought in order to create a legacy, a person had to create something worthwhile. ACA - less than meh. Could have been so much more, if a person had the guts to stand up for what he said he believed. Instead caved big time. Much less than meh is my estimation of his wasted time.
Don't think it was that way.
he was much worse than that.
there was no"caving in" - he had no intention of turning on his sponsors.
It was "Citigroup uber alles" all the time.
Time capsule
I guess we see today what sort of deals he had to cut with our overlords to break the color barrier in the White House, but I do still feel that even with all the disappointment, that was worthwhile for the country. I remember the hope so many of us felt...
Here's a look back to 2008
This is what got most folks hopeful about Obama - DNC Keynote 2004
DNC Acceptance 2008:
And who can forget Obama Girl?
His last correspondents dinner speech:
'What we are left with is an agency mandated to ensure transparency and disclosure that is actually working to keep the public in the dark' - Ann M. Ravel, former FEC member
Yes we can, but instead we got I didn't try
to fulfill my campaign promises that you people fell for.
His legacy is going to be the biggest bait and switch campaign ever.
Tell me one thing that this corporate sellout fought for?
The stupid ACA that saw people's premiums and deductibles doubled or tripled while they still can't afford to see their doctors.
Gawd, the minute I saw his cabinet picks I knew that we had been sold a crock of shit.
What I can't believe is the number of people who think that he has been the best president since FDR.
What bubble are those people living in?
People say that his administration has been scandal free, but they aren't looking at how he continued PNAC's goals in the Middle East and elsewhere.
Or that he put the cat food Commission in play.
We could have, but he didn't want to go against his master's wished and that makes him another house......
People said that after he voted for the fisa bill then once he became president he would roll back the spying programs.
Instead he went after more whistleblowers than every president combined.
This is your legacy, Barry
People said that the republicans would not get back in power for decades, but it only took one election season for them to regain power and two TO to hold all three branches of government.
Congrats, Barry. You did your job now get out there and raise millions in speaking fees you pos sellout!
Which AIPAC/MIC/pharma/bank bought politician are you going to vote for? Don’t be surprised when nothing changes.
B-b-b-but
11-dim chess!
Remember?
There are known knowns; there are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns – the ones we don't know we don't know.
Oh Gawd yes I remember 11 dimensional chess
How many years did that go on or that he had the republicans right where he wanted them?
It should have been everyone's first clue when he voted for the FISA bill that he promised us he would filibuster.
But people are still saying how much they are going to miss him especially after Trump starts doing the same things that Obama did which Bush started.
Which AIPAC/MIC/pharma/bank bought politician are you going to vote for? Don’t be surprised when nothing changes.
Did you see what he did Friday night?
The Ministry of Truth is Established by Congress
We now have a new US governmental agency that is charged with national level development, integration and synchronization of whole-of-government strategies to counter foreign propaganda and disinformation.
That's "fake news" to you.
In the US, a "Ministry of Truth" spells doom for the use of the Internet for fact checking or communicating with like-minded people. People like us will be silenced. We will self-mute for our own protection. This is the price Americans will pay for overthrowing the Establishment in both parties this year.
US media is totalitarian. Once the Internet is snipped, the people's feedback loop will close and we will lose touch, lose the connection. We will finally have time to get some housework done and clean out the attic. Maybe even paint the outside trim.
Websites like this one are now the problem that needs to be fixed.
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The political system is what it is because the People are who they are. — Plato
The media has already failed completely
Their not informing us about the details of the "Countering Foreign Propaganda and Disinformation Act of 2016" shows that. If it is as nefarious as it sounds I take my back my B- grade I gave Obama above.
Edit: Here's the text of the bill. Some scary things like:
A few reassurances like:
Beware the bullshit factories.
Thanks for the link, Timmethy
I've been avoiding the read.
The way it is implemented holds the key because the intent is unclear.
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The political system is what it is because the People are who they are. — Plato
Sure, happy holidays /nt
Beware the bullshit factories.
The CFPADA of 2016 should be titled Goebble's Truth Act
For if anyone were to seriously believe:
Then they would likely believe James Clappers NSA's domestic spying lies.
I'll take an Obama 8 years over a Dubya 8 years
I think an argument can be made that Obama did make us confront the racism that has alway been hiding in the background. I think the Iran nuclear deal was a good thing and the climate change agreement was a good first step. I do like that he broke some important barriers. I'll give him a B-, maybe with time and perspective that will go up.
Beware the bullshit factories.
The only thing Obama did about racism was negative
He completely ignored police brutality, especially white on black and brown on black. He, except for a very few pardons, continues to allow a racially biased "war on drugs" in which people of color are disproportionately imprisoned, often for possession of trivial amounts of a substance which is banned more for political reasons than medical reasons.
It is why I loathe him now. He betrayed millions.
For his own gain.
Sickens me to look at him. Mejor dicho - "No puedo verlo, ni en pintura."
I think we have a respectful difference of opinion today. thx.
So much for Obama's "Legacy"
But he's not the only one playing the victim card.
DNC Head Plays The Victim Over WikiLeaks Revelations (8:29)
[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=slvFhQPhf-M width:350]
Message for Donna:
And one for Debbie Wasserman-Schultz:
And let's not forget you too, Miss Hillary
Thanks LSM, it's great.
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Oh please. At least your link is just Faux beside themselves
with delight that someone as important as the President said their name. They don't show quote or context. I doubt he would blame his lack of legacy on Faux or Limpaugh. It's a self-promotion scheme by Faux.
"He doesn't seem to differentiate between Faux journalists and Faux commentators, I don't know why."
Because there are no journalists on Faux. It's a propaganda mill that will say anything to advance their agenda regardless of truthiness.
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What disappointed me about Obama most ...
I am convinced he is intelligent enough to know that he failed the people with his campaign promises and he doesn't show any remorse. He has such a light weight attitude to gloss over all the lies and betrayals he fed the public with and it's not understandable to me how he can lie to himself the way he does. He isn't that dumb. And if I am wrong in that judgment, I expect him to write a "revealing book" about all those things that have supposedly made it impossible to him to not follow his campaign rhetoric. He has betrayed my son's hopes. I don't foregive that. But it's not enough to feel hate or bitter bile about him. I still think he may be one day remembered as one of the "kinder" Presidents, in anticipation what we will have to face in our "future President material", but that may then be nothing but a more nostalgic flashback once we face the "real horror".
If he had guts he would do this before leaving office:
Apologize in public to not have fought for public universal healthcare for all, to not fought against and hold accountable those who enaged in torture and designed its programs, apologized for his usages of drones in the ME wars, which killed so many, and as Lookout said above, he could pardon and have mercy with and protect whistleblowers as do-gooders among us:
Well one can dream a little today, no? Tomorrow the shit marches on and we slip out on it and fall in the sewer canals.
Maybe "Just following orders" --
Curiour when he'll consider himself safe enough to begin dying his hair.
In order to have a worthwhile legacy
a person, a politician, must have principles that help form the core of the person. IMO Obama doesn't have anything at his core that he truly stands for or if he does have something he will not fight for it, he'll surrender. All he had was an overweening ambition to be the first AA President and once achieved he could do the minimum for a legacy.
If the Iran nuclear deal and the outreach to Cuba hold those will be about all he will have left. The ACA has helped numerous people but many millions more will never get close to having health insurance and million on the program can't afford to use it. As for the ACA - is a half-a-loaf better than none? For some yes, for most probably not.
He let the war criminals of the Bush II regime walk free, although I never expected he would do anything else, making him complicit in war crimes, crimes against humanity and mass murder, and then almost gleefully jumped in with both feet, going so far as to add the murder of American citizens to his own crimes.
He could have done so much, or at least tried, to be a transitional President, but likely never had any intention of doing so. He could have built up the Dems and worked to destroy or diminish the Repubs but instead did the opposite and now we are all going to pay a very high price. Obama's Presidency has been a massive failure and that is likely how he will be seen when his history is written.
Dear Dems: You lost the WH, Senate, House, dozens of governors, state level SOS and AG and about 1,000 state legislative seats. Maybe...you're doing something wrong.
ACA, while a positive in many ways
is already showing it's negative in more ways that really count. With the taxpayer subsidizing the private for profit insurance industry while they continue to raise costs, ACA may well make singer payer even more difficult to get to. If people already see the massive amounts of taxpayer debt we're adding by subsidizing it, and we all know Trump will most likely make that point to many very openly in trying to kill it, just how long will most in this country put up with that? How many even understand that IS the issue with it? I remember it was Matt Taibbi in the Rolling Stone who discussed this and when I first read that I was so upset, and I really, really wanted to deny that truth. While it's nice to think people will see the stupidity of the for profit model, when have American's really woken up to reality in the last 20 years where economics are concerned? With a new Ministry of Truth, I don't hold out much hope for that.
Yes, ultimately Obama's legacy, at least in actual honesty, will be a negative one.
Only a fool lets someone else tell him who his enemy is. Assata Shakur
I wonder what kind of ex-President he'll be
Jimmy Carter, Bill Clinton, Dubya or something else?
Beware the bullshit factories.
a very wealthy one.
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