Bats, Caves, White-Nose Syndrome, and the CBD

I read today that they didn't make the law to have the bats have critical endangered habitat, and I thought, I bet that will piss people off, but on the other hand, I know a bit about the caves and the bats and the humans, and I wondered whether maybe they just did that because they didn't want to publicize where this habitat is.

When whitenose started coming down, there started up some dissent between the Center for Biological Diversity people and the cavers, as the cavers, at least some of them, thought they could help volunteer to police caves, and the CBD people thought the caves should be banned for human access. The bats are affected when they are hibernating, because the fungus wakes them up too soon before spring and they come out and starve. So we do not want humans going into the bat hibernacula, no we do not.

Problem is, bats are really good at finding caves. Humans vary. And we don't have wings. So it's hard to make sure a protected cave is really protected, because a lot of them are really hard to get to, without wings. And there is not enough money to hire humans to go way out there to the caves, and watch.

Humans who are interested in caves may put a lot of energy into finding them. Maps of cave locations may be closely guarded. Humans sometimes die without giving them up.

Caves get found by humans, caves get lost by humans. And it's not clear that bats don't do as good a job of spreading this fungus as humans do. And humans do sometimes vandalize caves they can locate, they even at times devote a lot of energy to trying to break into gated caves, to the point where cave gate design may include weak links, because it's cheaper to replace the weak link than to replace a more damaged gate.

I learned that volunteering for a cave management guy here about ten years back, head cave guy for the entire BLM, who works out of the Carlsbad office. I was sorting out his files for him in his cubicle, and tossing duplicate documents, so they could all again fit in the three file cabinets. As this was a volunteer gig, I had time to read.

Later, I read online about how caves where public access is denied, do get vandalized, and how volunteer people who care about caves and wildlife and take protection seriously, aren't around to notice, because they are told not to come around.

Today I read this. I don't mean to trash CBD, but I've been thinking all along that their thinking on this has problems.

http://www.courthousenews.com/2016/04/26/agency-caves-to-industry-on-bat...

WASHINGTON (CN) — A critical habitat designation for northern long-eared bats is "not prudent," Fish and Wildlife says, but environmentalists claim industry pressure is the reason protections were denied.
     According to the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service, it has declined to designate critical habitat for the bats because publishing hibernation locations would cause vandalism and disturbance at the sites and "hasten the spread of white-nose syndrome," a devastating fungus disease that has caused the bats' population to decline by up to 99 percent in the Northeast. Of all the bat species in the U.S., the northern long-eared has been the species most affected by the disease. The disease get its name from the white patches noted on the muzzles and wings of the bats.

     "While critical habitat has a fundamental role to play in recovering many of our nation's most imperiled species, in the case of the northern long-eared bat, whose habitat is not a limiting factor in its survival, designating it could do more harm than good," Tom Melius, the Service's Midwest Regional Director, said. "Today's finding will ensure we don't put the bat at greater risk by drawing people to its hibernation sites. It also enables the Service and our partners to focus our efforts where they clearly can do the most good, finding a solution to the primary threat of white-nose syndrome."

"According to the CBD, scientific research demonstrates that species with critical habitat are twice as likely to recover as species without designated habitat, but the agency has used the "not prudent" and other loopholes to avoid giving critical habitat to many species. The ESA requires the Service to designate critical habitat for listed species unless it is not prudent to do so, is not within U.S. jurisdiction or is not determinable.
     "If you don't protect the places endangered species live, it becomes that much harder to save them. This is yet another instance where the Fish and Wildlife Service has gone out of its way to appease special interests rather than protecting our most vulnerable animals," Tanya Sanerib, a CBD attorney, said. "To put it simply, the Fish and Wildlife Service isn't protecting habitat for the bat because it would be inconvenient for them to stand up to industry, not because it wouldn't benefit the bat."

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We are in the Holocene extinction period.
Wherever man goes, things die. I like being a human, but killing everything can't possibly end up good for us.
Agencies and activists aren't going to solve the problem. We need to find a new way to live as humans.
We have to find a way to be stewards of our planet and not it's destroyer.

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In that it's about paradigms. CBD aren't the bad guys, but the assumption that it's even possible to protect wildlife from humans, that there is funding to do so, or motivation; needs some serious examination.

I also find it sad in that there are people who fall in love with their local landbases, and might act to protect them, if they weren't told not to.

I personally think that if CBD people aren't up for devoting themselves to going out and personally protecting individual bat hibernacula, then they should just STFU about USFWS deciding on not making a move that would result in releasing locale data.

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Make them hard to enter. But I know that bats have wings, sound radar and hang up side down and that's about it. So my gut instincts are unlikely to be of use here. It certainly is an interesting topic though. Sadly, I don't think those bats are going to make it, being down 99% already, still, there have been comebacks.

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Make them hard to enter. Unfortunately, not all cavers care about wildlife. Some are just into having a cave bucket list. Some really hate the bat-related restrictions.

Bats in China are immune to white nose. This apparently got exported to a previously unexposed population. Habitat matters, but bats congregate in hibernacula and nursery caves, so they are really vulnerable at these times. So the point I'm making here is, what is the point of trying to identify and label these caves as "protected habitat" if you don't have the resources to protect them?

In a broader sense, what is the point in having part of the government engage in such labeling if they don't have the funds or political currency available to engage in protection? It reminds me of climate disruption analysis and counting. How much hell can we fit on the head of a pin?

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even if the agencies are not currently funded properly. If we are ever to find that way to live without killing everything. we certainly need to keep the experts employed as best we can. There are species we've brought back from the brink, at least for a time, so there is value in labeling and action. Even if all can't be saved, or protected.
If you live 15 to 20 years more, I'm certain you will be able to begin to see all that's on the head of that pin.
I don't think it will be pretty.

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Mother nature (with human intervention) is playing havoc on all wildlife were I live in the Irish Hills.
Humankind has fueled an epidemic on nature first, soon to be followed by
the death of the virus.
Mars need not wait.

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I'm 58 and some of my earliest memories are about learning about how there are too many humans. This has been one of the most tedious aspects of how I have spent my life.

Ah, well. We're fucked, but life is great!

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Yes!
Life is good. I'll waste as much of as it I have, being cheerful and full of life.
Meanwhile, back in the bat-cave (ties in nicely to the topic).
You need not worry about too many humans. Soylent green is healthy.

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To maintain a positive attitude in the face of horrors. It gives you something to do with your spare time.

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Was just wondering where you were. Missed your posts. Great diary.

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Been a long week. I hope you are well.

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We like to observe. We found bat caves, went aha, 'here's where they go in winter!'. We discovered that earlier humans also liked caves, made them significant by painting images on the walls and ceilings. We discovered bats were good, ate mosquitoes, pollinated night-blooming plants. But, caves! Intrepid humans! Bats got rabies, some imbibed mammal blood, not just plant pollen and fruit. Bats had something to do with SARS. Love/hate bats.

Humans are powerful, controllers of all. Save the bats, save the caves, make hibernaculae vague locations, undoing local knowledge. Right. Now there are attempts, I think, to make WNS-known locations like oil spills, go in with Dawn and save the oiled birds, one-by-one, catch and release. It doesn't matter now where WNS itself came from, but humans are somehow implicated. This will not end well, I have not seen a local bat in over 6 years.

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What we're less good at is leaving them alone in the first place.

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avatar. I gather you've been busy and I hope that today is a great day for you. Best wishes,

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Good morning, Miep.

inconvenient for them to stand up to industry,

Can you explain that? What industry?

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It's this.

https://www.biologicaldiversity.org/news/press_releases/2015/northern-lo...

The CBD argument is that listing the bats could be used to stop coal mining extension. The CBD from the start has argued for a wholesale closure of bat caves, much to the ire of cavers. I have never seen them explain just how that was supposed to be enforced, though. Also caves have a high recreational value and humans in this culture are disinclined to see the value of wilderness they can't experience personally.

Using a listed species to stop logging has a history; this would, I gather, be a similar strategy.

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When I was doing the volunteer gig, the bottom drawers of the file cabinets had the cave files, and I was expressly forbidden to look at those, because they included location data. The BLM, Forest Service and Park Service here are all quite secretive about cave locations because of the vandalism problem. It's not just the bats, people steal cave formations and graffiti them. They actually have some caves they consider sacrifice caves, that aren't gated and are always having to be cleaned up. So the conflict here is that if listing a bat species means publishing locations of all the known caves where that species lives, it blows this all to hell. Plus there are who knows how many undiscovered caves around here. The more you crack down on cave access, the less likely people are to tell you when they find caves.

This is a high karst region and I don't know what it's like where this species abides, but the general problem must be the same, the impossibility of adequately patrolling a lot of far-flung caves when land management funding itself has been so problematic, to the point of park closures (see California).

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It's sickening just how despicable humanity is. "Despicable" is becoming a favorite word, sadly.

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And hiking up to a cave and leaving your garbage around and peeing in the corners and writing or painting on the walls is easy enough. Hiking up with the usual caving needs plus water and cleaning supplies, and then hauling the trash back down, not so much. People do this, though. They don't get paid. I really admire cave resto people, but it's not difficult to understand cave managers saying "no thank you" to any proposed policies that would make things worse.

You designate an owl threatened, you designate a piece of habitat protected, then the trees hopefully don't get logged and this is good. But the owls won't drop dead if somebody walks though the forest while they are asleep, and forests don't lend themselves to the same sort of vandalism. There is no need to keep the forest hidden.

It's a tough one. I sympathize with both sides, really. I am inclined to think whitenose is just going to have to run its course, and of course all efforts to protect habitat are worthy. This particular one just has some potential to backfire.

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so I won't be a danger to the bats. They can have them.

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