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Saturday Open Thread - 11/22/25: Odds and Ends

Good morning, good people!

We have a couple of folks on the site that are sorta, kinda, being forced into a retirement they had not exactly planned. Usefewersyllables, iirc, commented about a job being one's identity. I can relate.

I am one month into my 40th year practicing law. My driving desires were to help end the death penalty, and to be my own boss. My practice branched out into certain civil practice areas, and shaped itself according to the needs of the community, and my need to support myself. I am not that lucky child of rich parents.

My 2 best friends in the biz are a tad older than me, and the 3 of us talk about walking away.

The oldest is a guy who has health issues. His family and friends want him to just come home. He resists because he is a lawyer, that is what he is, what he does. Nothing else. I firmly believe he fights his health problems because he has clients to take care of, and if that was not the case, he would curl up and die. He got lucky, represented his brother in a truck/auto collision case and became a millionaire. The woman pal was fortunate to inherit a small fortune, but unfortunate enough to find herself in a community where all her friends are dead, and her beloved husband died. If she retires, she goes home to absolutely nothing and nobody.

My situation is different from theirs in that I always did business in a poor county for low prices, and while my retirement stash is sufficient today, but I worry constantly about inflation, and what my monthly budget might look like in a year, or two years. Right at the time I was able to sock away maximum $ into savings, here comes COVID. The local economy has not recovered and will not ever be the same.

To add to the problem is location. My home is in a rural area. A marauding gang could wipe me and mine out in minutes. For those of you who are not really bothered by illegal immigrants, my situation is very different. This area in East and Southeast Texas is inundated with cartels. If I sell or lease my office, located beside the courthouse, 2 blocks from the Sheriff's office, I can't go there if this place gets really dangerous. It could happen. And I might decide to open up my practice post-retirement.

My head splits open with these problems, but the REAL problem is what usefewersyllables was addressing.

Identity. Lawyers are 24/7 under the guns. We don't get to escape it. We sign up for it. Everything we do or say is held accountable. We signed up for it. We are proud of it. We studied, we tested, we committed to it, and my old pal is right. He is nothing and nobody unless he is a lawyer, because most of his life that is who he is.

Me, too.

Anyway, walking away from work, which is what we do in this country, when not forced, is not always the relief from being under the thumb of "the man" as it is being old and helpless at the mercy of another "man".

I fervently hope all of you are prepared for that final phase in this life.

Meanwhile, lots of stuff and things are happening all over the world, and whatever info you find that is interesting, please share with your friends here on the site.

This is an open thread, open to all kinds of info, ideas, and the gestures of friendship.

Your turn!

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You know you wanna do it...

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"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981

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Slow walking away from a career
(or a lifetime) of striving has its challenges.

The new 'reality', as you pointed out, is encumbered with
physical and mental issues which require a skill set not
necessarily developed during said career or lifetime.

Guess we make it up as we go along. Personally think we
are more than what we identify with. I mean yeah, I have been
a boat captain most of my life. Part of that stays with you after
throwing the last line on the dock. The ship of life continues.

Thanks for the thoughts and tunes chica!

Rainy day here. Working on a jigsaw puzzle of
Puerto Vallarta to keep insanity at bay.

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Zionism is a social disease

@QMS I applaud your excursions into learning, through local groups and clubs, new or improving on current skills. You are navigating uncharted waters, Cap'n. Land, ho!
To add to my other concerns, the State Bar of Texas is offering assistance, courses, classes, all about retiring or managing your practice if you get sick or injured. I see something about it almost daily, like something is going on. I see warnings about the duty to keep up with new technology in order to comport with our professional ethics. My pals and I believe it is a concerted effort to push us out and usher in the young tech wiz kids. Almost all live, in person mandatory Continuing Legal Education classes are sponsored by some company selling AI programs. I have gotten CLE attendance credit for required hours, which are reported yearly, taught by non-lawyer tech guys. Large firms are being taught how to incorporate and capitalize on new clients that have done their own AI research before hiring said firm. So, capitalize on the amateurish research, don't argue with it. (I show a prospective client the door when I see their AI trash.)
Well, for now, I love going to work.
We shall see.
Enjoy your weekend, dear friend!

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a sampling ..

OpenAI reportedly plans on building 250 gigawatts of capacity by 2033 to use for its energy-consuming servers, about the same amount of electricity that’s used by 1.5 billion people in India.

So, no. No to this. Your right to extend your fist ends at my nose. You don’t get to just add this giant burden to the already severely overburdened ecosystem we all depend on for survival in order to expand your chatbot project. The collective is entitled to stop you. By force.

my bold

https://www.caitlinjohnst.one/p/israel-moved-gazas-yellow-line-and?utm_s...

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Zionism is a social disease

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@QMS

...the elite are no longer concerned with climate change and the green agenda. All they ever wanted is "more for me", and they will flip flop around to maximize their profits.

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“Until justice rolls down like water and righteousness like a mighty stream.”

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...it wasn't because I was tired of students, but sick of self serving administrators. I have enjoyed my retirement, but know many who either die soon afterward or don't know how to entertain themselves.

It drizzled this AM at Trade day, but now the sun is out and sky's are blue. Lots of errands today after trade day - Trash and recycling, bank ATM withdrawal for the week's cash, groceries, and non-ethanol gas for the the tractor and small motors. Non-ethanol runs a little over $3/gal, but saves on motor maintenance.

Sounds to me, from your stories, you still enjoy being an attorney. As long as you are enjoying your profession, I say go for it.

Well take care, and thanks for the OT!

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@Lookout
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if it feels good, do it.
Till you can't. Then ..

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Zionism is a social disease

@QMS I applaud your excursions into learning, through local groups and clubs, new or improving on current skills. You are navigating uncharted waters, Cap'n. Land, ho!
To add to my other concerns, the State Bar of Texas is offering assistance, courses, classes, all about retiring or managing your practice if you get sick or injured. I see something about it almost daily, like something is going on. I see warnings about the duty to keep up with new technology in order to comport with our professional ethics. My pals and I believe it is a concerted effort to push us out and usher in the young tech wiz kids. Almost all live, in person mandatory Continuing Legal Education classes are sponsored by some company selling AI programs. I have gotten CLE attendance credit for required hours, which are reported yearly, taught by non-lawyer tech guys. Large firms are being taught how to incorporate and capitalize on new clients that have done their own AI research before hiring said firm. So, capitalize on the amateurish research, don't argue with it. (I show a prospective client the door when I see their AI trash.)
Well, for now, I love going to work.
We shall see.
Enjoy your weekend, dear friend! @Lookout

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in the right direction
but can understand your need
to remain relevant in this 'late' stage
of life. The challenges abound.
Good luck.

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Zionism is a social disease