11/27 Open Thread: Bullshit Season is Upon Us, Arm and Defend Yourselves

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Bullshit

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I recently stumbled across an article Titled The Baloney Detection Kit by Maria Popova of Brain Pickings, which appears to be a website, blog, newsletter or some sort. It holds out the promise of explicating how Carl Sagan’s rules for critical thinking offer cognitive fortification against propaganda, pseudoscience, and general falsehood. I never saw his show, for reasons, largely the fact that it was on TV and I have never been much into TV. Be that as it may, he seems justifiably well respected for his output, insights and critical thinking. The above article is based on a chapter in his book, The Demon-Haunted World: Science as a Candle in the Dark which was titled, oddly enough “The Fine Art of Baloney Detection,”. The article in question cannot be adequately abstracted within the confines of fair use, so you'll have to read it yourself.

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Right then, here is the link: https://getpocket.com/explore/item/the-baloney-detection-kit-carl-sagan-... . It seems that Sagan had 9 "Tools" and then warned of 20 of the most common fallacies in logic and rhetoric. So, go read it. When you do, please pay special attention to rule number 9, number 9, number 9 ... .

Always ask whether the hypothesis can be, at least in principle, falsified. Propositions that are untestable, unfalsifiable are not worth much. Consider the grand idea that our Universe and everything in it is just an elementary particle — an electron, say — in a much bigger Cosmos. But if we can never acquire information from outside our Universe, is not the idea incapable of disproof? You must be able to check assertions out. Inveterate skeptics must be given the chance to follow your reasoning, to duplicate your experiments and see if they get the same result.

This particularly sagacious piece of advice is held in high esteem by epistemologists and empiricists and can be has been and will no doubt continue to be quite a workhorse. Some have gone so far as to declare that statements which fail this test are nonsense. That term, as used in this instance is a term of art not a mere pejorative, meaning that such statements are senseless, or devoid of cognitive content, and cannot enter into meaningful discourse in any way whatsoever. If you simply get into the habit of viewing every statement by every politician, pundit, media source, talking head and expert through this lens, you will have gained much. That applies especially to stuff that is known with certainty because of evidence that may not be disclosed because of national security concerns. When anybody trucks out any such statement or argument, simply chant the mantra "riiiight, WMD galore" and ignore it and all that allegedly follows from it. The classic formulation of this principle requires that the statement must intrinsically, inherently or logically impossibly to falsify. For almost all practical purposes, however, the formulation in the article is sufficient.

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All 20 of his selected fallacies bear watching out for. All of them are all too frequent, but a pair that I find particularly frequent are:

non sequitur — Latin for “It doesn’t follow” (e.g., Our nation will prevail because God is great. But nearly every nation pretends this to be true; the German formulation was “Gott mit uns”). Often those falling into the non sequitur fallacy have simply failed to recognize alternative possibilities;

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post hoc, ergo propter hoc — Latin for “It happened after, so it was caused by” (e.g., Jaime Cardinal Sin, Archbishop of Manila: “I know of … a 26-year-old who looks 60 because she takes [contraceptive] pills.” Or: Before women got the vote, there were no nuclear weapons)



Non sequiturs, upon consideration, are invariably irrelevancies, and post hoc ergo propter hoc would have us believe that the sun rises because of any pre-dawn phenomena of your choosing. One that I find more insidious and concerning, however is

excluded middle, or false dichotomy — considering only the two extremes in a continuum of intermediate possibilities (e.g., “Sure, take his side; my husband’s perfect; I’m always wrong.” Or: “Either you love your country or you hate it.” Or: “If you’re not part of the solution, you’re part of the problem”) (emphasis added)

This is in part tricky because there is a "law of the excluded middle" in logic, and that is why I added the emphasis in the quote above. In a case where there is not a continuum of possibilities, then it is valid to assert that a thing is or is not, is true or false. Because we are inherently familiar with such situations (the kitchen light is either on or off) we can fail to detect when somebody improperly assigns binary truth values to a non-binary situation. I find myself constantly mentally yelling "SOME dammit, some" and some pronouncement or assertion because it is a pet peeve of mine; because so often the set up for this fallacy is an assertion of the form "x is y" which should be of the form "SOME x is y. SOME is the most misused word in the English language, misused by its absence, by not being used where appropriate. (Next time you listed to a political speech try counting the number of omissions.) The classic square of opposition in logic contains 4 "forms"; all S is P, No S is P, Some S is P, and some S is not P. Two out of four, or 50% of the assertion types are indefinite, beginning with some. (End of mini-rant.)

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So read the article and then go forth and pay attention, for there is a horrendous tsunami of illogic, semantic trickery, and other psychotropic disinformation, illusion, hyperbole and other sophistry bearing down upon us. In fact, there are many little precursor eddies and backwashes already swirling about us.

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And Now, the News:

And some old news:

Lest we get, you know, conned, or sumptin

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Aaaand, for a different take on both Bullshit and Clarity, a brief but valuable read and reminder https://caitlinjohnstone.com/2019/11/15/so-about-that-moment-of-clarity-.... Remember, epiphanies are as real as anything else, perhaps, I think.

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It's an open thread, so have at it. The floor is yours
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Lookout's picture

BS is pervasive in the MSM and is brainwashing the public. Sadly they sleep walk along repeating the narratives they've heard. And here we are.

I read a fair amount of Sagan's work for the science content....you know billions and billions... I wasn't familiar with his critical thinking rules. The nature of science is to look for evidence. However that can be a problem too. For example when correlation is equated with causation.

We must go forward with open eyes and minds. Letting go of concepts as new evidence refutes old thinking is difficult for most folks.

Thanks for the OT and music. Haven't thought about the Fugs in years. Y'all have a good day!

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“Until justice rolls down like water and righteousness like a mighty stream.”

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@Lookout
is a wonderful thing, not so much for the specific knowledge of specific fields, but for understanding of the processes and purposes, the so-called "scientific method" and the baptism into empiricism. Letting go of errors and inadequacies is an underemphasized part of that process, and is critical to it as you note. More than one practitioner has asserted that progress occurs largely as the old guard, enmeshed in and deeply attached to an older, inadequate model, die and are replaced by those who are more at home with the newer, more refined model. Not strictly true, of course, but also not strictly false.

One thing I think has been broadly lacking in our educational system is a thorough look into methodology, which was never a part of any core curriculum but something that one had to seek out, a somewhat obscure elective, where taught. At least that was the case in my day.

Have a great day and a good national day of mourning tomorrow.

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That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --

QMS's picture

BS seems like obscurity. It's unfortunate the US media giants play the same game as the political class.
Loose with the facts. Sound reasoning is discouraged in this hyper - info tech structure.

Read Sagan's last book. He fought against disinformation to the end. Smart man.

Cheers!

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@QMS
owned by the political class somewhat exclusively and largely get their "news" from press releases or off of the wire, also owned by the oligarchs. On top of that, there is the infotainment and marketing presence that permeates. I pretty much ignore it as best as I can.

Have a good one.

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That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --

I try to use fuzzy logic. In more than one dimension.

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@tle
strengths and weaknesses. The trick is to know when to use it and when not to. Thanks for reading and have a good one.

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That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --

Our corporate media's job is to spread the love the discord and the fog. They are quite the experts...no one has ever done it better. Our government does the ancillary bit of blowing smoke. Too bad, keeps me dazed and confused.

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@randtntx
Try visiting the USA! Our primary product is FUD. We produce so much of it that it is largely free.

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That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --

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Snowmaggeden here this morning. It has been falling heavily for over 3 hours and it's piling up. And yay for me having the longest driveway ever and the snowblower's gas tank has a leak. Hopefully my neighbors with their 4 wheeler will come help a crippled lady out....Oh yeah and the drive is steep so blowing it was always a challenge as is getting back up it if it's not cleared.

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“When out of fear you twist the lesser evil into the lie that it is something good, you eventually rob people of the capacity to distinguish between good and evil.”
~ Hannah Arendt

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@snoopydawg
snow removal and the snow.

Have a good one.

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That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --

Raggedy Ann's picture

The BS season is in full swing on this site! Look at what we're getting from BayAreaLefty. Is it Markos in disguise? Armando? One of those folks from TOP, no doubt, trying to sow discord on our harmonious site.

Call it out! Have the courage! When you hear BS, don't let it by you unscathed!

Enjoy your holiday if you are celebrating and if not, enjoy whatever shakes your booty! Pleasantry

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"The “jumpers” reminded us that one day we will all face only one choice and that is how we will die, not how we will live." Chris Hedges on 9/11

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@Raggedy Ann

yee haw!

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@Raggedy Ann
but we don't censor content, so he is free to speak his piece, though hi is sailing a bit close to the edge calling out "CT", but he is being general as far as I saw, which is permitted.

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That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --

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@Raggedy Ann  
That one was really doing the Innuendo Polka.

Ah, well, that’s spiritual show biz! Happy Thanksgiving, everyone.

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magiamma's picture

et al

same as it ever was

[video:https://youtu.be/4HmJX11_AQE]

Travel day yesterday. Missed the storm. How is it there? SCruz well to the south of the main deluge got bits and pieces. Hoping for more. Thanks for the fugs, discreet logic and the fugs. Have a good one all...
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@magiamma

[video:https://youtu.be/s36eQwgPNSE]

cheerios!

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@magiamma
most of the night and off and on so far today. Probably an inch of rain at our house so far.

Have a good one.

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That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --

earthling1's picture

One of the first Sagan books I've read.
Completely changed my way of thinking about how to think.
Much akin to your "methodology",EL, he taught me how to consider issues from a completely different angle. In the same vein as the excluded middle, or binary thoughts as tle described.
For instance;
All the handwringing and failed proposals going into the homeless problem never seems to solve it. We are stuck on moving them around periodically, much like musical campgrounds, never a solution with any kind of permanance.
Through Sagan, I've learned to consider the problem from an extreme opposite point of view. Instead of what can we do about the problem, what can we NOT do about it.
First, we can't shoot them on site. That would be barbaric and against the law (as we know it).
Second, we can't put them in prison. The cost of imprisonment is, today, about $60k per year per inmate. Depending on which state.
This leaves us with what?
Like Yang and his universal income, we could just spend much less and house them in low income housing communities or communes.
Which is exactly where we wound up coming from the other direction.
The man was brilliant. The world is very much poorer without him.
Thanks for the OT, El.

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Neither Russia nor China is our enemy.
Neither Iran nor Venezuela are threatening America.
Cuba is a dead horse, stop beating it.

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@QMS @earthling1
impossible and whatever is left ... (Sherlock's Dictum).

Have a good one.

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@earthling1  
How much per Japanese-American citizen incarcerated, per year?

Especially in the context that an excessive cost would have hurt the war effort.

How did the government keep the cost down then?

How much was the cost reduced by the fact that, although unjustly imprisoned, an overwhelming majority of Japanese-Americans faced their fate philosophically, struggling to maintain a cooperative and patriotic attitude even in the face of economic catastrophe and the severest form of social stigmatization and discrimination possible, short of mass killing?

Perhaps I really should be backing Yang for president, since he is probably the only candidate that knows in his gut what the implications are when race plus paranoia plus identity politics can convince even Dr. Seuss to want to put him and his family in a concentration camp.

China rising back to the Number One spot on the “It’s war and they are the enemy” hit parade? For y’all what’s got them “Middle East” (Middle Kingdom / East Asian) roots, the next few years could once again be, um, “interesting times.”

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https://www.cnn.com/2019/11/27/politics/cnn-poll-joe-biden-pete-buttigie...

Note that title of the link. Biden...Buttigieg.

The poll shows Biden 28%, Bernie 17%, Warren 14%, Boot 11%.

The actual headline is "CNN Poll: Biden leads nationally as Buttigieg rises"

Then the text (I love this):

Former Vice President Joe Biden continues to lead the newly expanded field of contenders for the Democratic nomination for president, with Sens. Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts and Bernie Sanders of Vermont behind him in a close battle for second, according to a new CNN Poll conducted by SSRS.

Bernie is ahead of Warren but, of course, when they're so "close" she gets mentioned first.

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@Shahryar

Have a good one.

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That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --

smiley7's picture

happy i've stopped in to see what you're thinking today and if may first be humorous, 'Brain pickings is apropos.

So read the article and then go forth and pay attention, for there is a horrendous tsunami of illogic, semantic trickery, and other psychotropic disinformation, illusion, hyperbole and other sophistry bearing down upon us. In fact, there are many little precursor eddies and backwashes already swirling about us."

'Meet to chew upon' as theatre critics being unable to write their own plays or become a character in one often have resulted in saying. When i've supposed all along, they didn't understand the material at hand; hoping that we readers of their 'criticism' would figure out their ... foibles.

Eccentricity, big cheers for waking the brain waves. And i pray the Weber does its job delivering delicious tastes for all and yours tomorrow.

"To life, to life, l'chaim"

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@smiley7
guests who are from out of town and had a particularly nasty drive of it for dinner out. Everyplace seemed quieter than I expected, perhaps the weather. Glad you enjoyed the post, hope you had a good day and hope you have a great tomorrow. Thanks for the good wishes.

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