Bernie Hates Dems!

Oh the wisdom I that have gleaned from the so called liberal blogs recently.

Scorched earth! He keeps this up and Hillary loses!

Ye gods, it's almost as if they had a popular and trusted candidate.

You must not talk about her negatives! You'll ruin the party!

I can almost feel the spittle wash over me as they type!

But, but you just hate Dems! Sexist! Misogynist!

She only did what Colin Powell did with his emails!

Yep, a Republican from one of the most despised administrations of all time! He did it, move along!

Yep, she only did what the man who lied to the world did!

Mention Citizens United and they will do back flips in trying to justify why they must do the same, we will lose otherwise!

We will incrementally deal with it! You just hate Dems!

Mention evolution and they go all intelligent design.

She doesn't have to show you what she got paid to do! It's private!

Anyway it doesn't have any influence upon her no matter how many millions they transferred to her account!

It's going to down ballot Dems anyway! Don't you dare point out the facts! You just hate dems!

Debate on Fox! OMG, OMG you really do hate Dems!

Don't you dare even mention foreign policy, what once was, now is not!

Bernie Hates Dems!

And so do you!

Hater!

As I said the wisdom that I have picked up with the shit shovel.

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Damnit Janet's picture

How do they reconcile DADT? How do they get away with telling us to stfu and fall in line with Madame Rodham and yet we're the haters?

I hadn't been there but maybe two or three times since March. Mostly to try and T&R but I gave up after seeing them attack people like OPOL.

I ventured in last night and saw some of the attacks in Aspies GBCW diary. The attacks were as frothy as Santorum sweater vest.

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"Love One Another" ~ George Harrison

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You get ham and jam and spam a lot.

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Democrats, we tried to warn you. How is that guilt and shame working out?

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Ken in MN's picture

...you invariably wish you hadn't asked...

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I want my two dollars!

as for spam that's debatable

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thanatokephaloides's picture

Except, of course, that's not Spam; it's haggis!

Smile

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"US govt/military = bad. Russian govt/military = bad. Any politician wanting power = bad. Anyone wielding power = bad." --Shahryar

"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides

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"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha

"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver

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The earth is a multibillion-year-old sphere.
The Nazis killed millions of Jews.
On 9/11/01 a Boeing 757 (AA77) flew into the Pentagon.
AGCC is happening.
If you cannot accept these facts, I cannot fake an interest in any of your opinions.

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“Tactics without strategy is the noise before defeat.” ~ Sun Tzu

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“Socialism never took root in America because the poor see themselves not as an exploited proletariat but as temporarily embarrassed millionaires.” - John Steinbeck

Wonder what they'd do with this
http://imgur.com/p1910IU

Enlarge for easy reading - it's really a funny spin! Imagine John Cleese reading it Smile

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from every word.

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Bulldawg's picture

Daily Kos Tourettte's Syndrome.

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“Socialism never took root in America because the poor see themselves not as an exploited proletariat but as temporarily embarrassed millionaires.” - John Steinbeck

JayRaye's picture

John Cheese reading it...plz don't make me imagine that...that man could cause me to die laughing.

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Never be deceived that the rich will allow you to vote away their wealth.-Lucy Parsons

boriscleto's picture

Shhh!

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" In the beginning, the universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry, and is generally considered to have been a bad move. -- Douglas Adams, The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy "

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I do not pretend I know what I do not know.

How do they reconcile DADT? How do they get away with telling us to stfu and fall in line with Madame Rodham and yet we're the haters?

Suddenly it is smart, and pragmatic'. Woo HOO!

Learn how to rationalize something daily at the Daily Rationalization!

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Lily O Lady's picture

the Five Minutes Hate of Bernie Sanders. Arrive early to get the best seats.

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"The object of persecution is persecution. The object of torture is torture. The object of power is power. Now do you begin to understand me?" ~Orwell, "1984"

riverlover's picture

Spittle and falme. They are rabid now. I was vaccinated against rabies, but have not been titer-tested recently. And they are naming handles of deserters and the brave Berners still there.

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Hey! my dear friends or soon-to-be's, JtC could use the donations to keep this site functioning for those of us who can still see the life preserver or flotsam in the water.

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It's getting really nasty OT.....

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"US govt/military = bad. Russian govt/military = bad. Any politician wanting power = bad. Anyone wielding power = bad." --Shahryar

"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides

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placebo rights are still.. not rights. We either all are equal or really truly absolutely without a doubutaboutit no one is. I don't know why we can't remember that. It's only logical. If someone is being denied a right, chances are you will be the next "someone." And...

and you know LaFemelovely, we have so much work to do. Thank you for your brilliant and courageous and persistent voice. Smile

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"Love One Another" ~ George Harrison

I had to leave for health reasons...took me a while, but finally figured out how to unsubscribe. It CANNOT be done from the website, but if you look at the bottom of an email from the site you will see an "unsubscribe link. That will bring up options to unsubscribe from 4, or more associated sites which you are automatically subscribed to if you sign up for DKos. You have to repeatedly re-enter to unsubscribe individually from each site. I'm not sure it takes me off Markos' money making list, but I am free at last of the daily ugly reminders from Establishment America

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Insulting someone and calling them names while belittling them always yields positive results, don't you? And in the case of Hilary - it also will raise her likeability.

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Democrats, we tried to warn you. How is that guilt and shame working out?

candidate aint that good.

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Shame only works when it comes from someone you respect. I don't respect Hilary and by extension I have lost respect for all those who shill for her.

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Democrats, we tried to warn you. How is that guilt and shame working out?

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because I am rapidly starting to hate "Democrats" too. (Well, the moderate republicans that fled to the party and now claim to be "Liberal" democrats.

They are just fiscal conservatives that are just a tad bit better on social issues than the current Republicans...

It's getting harder and harder to find real progressives in the Democratic party anymore. That must be why independent and green registrations are growing as the Democratic Party shrinks. I guess I am a little slow as usual, I came to the Democratic party because I realized I was a progressive, only to later realize that most of the progressives had left just as I was arriving...

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"I used to vote Republican & Democrat, I also used to shit my pants. Eventually I got smart enough to stop doing both things." -Me

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…when Democrats turn into the Republicans of several decades ago.

We have a far right party, and we have a center right party.

The Third Way just shows us that Democrats and Republicans have far fewer differences than most people would be comfortable admitting. The two party system is an obvious sham so that the single party political class can continue to serve the oligarchs with autonomy.

Those poor poor oligarchs. The commoners make their lives so hard.

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There have to be two parties in order to maintain the very successful divide and conquer strategy currently employed by the political oligarchy. When body parts and bathrooms are the main obfuscation/abstraction from the real criminals in DC, and the main reason many support One like HRC, rather than her policies, and integrity, we are in deep do-do

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Is a two-party sport.

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Democrats, we tried to warn you. How is that guilt and shame working out?

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My first election was 1992...

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" In the beginning, the universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry, and is generally considered to have been a bad move. -- Douglas Adams, The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy "

my first year voting was 1996

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And for Ralph Nader in 1996. Never regretted either vote. Not that it mattered, as both times I voted in safely blue states. (I did vote for Al Gore in 2000.) And then I got excited about Obama in 2008 and even switched back to Democratic to vote for him . . . until he appointed Geithner and Summers and I realized I had just voted for the Goldman Sachs presidency. Arrrgh!

Well, at least the billionaires got bailed out. Again.

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after you become a billionaire and then fuck up.

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The earth is a multibillion-year-old sphere.
The Nazis killed millions of Jews.
On 9/11/01 a Boeing 757 (AA77) flew into the Pentagon.
AGCC is happening.
If you cannot accept these facts, I cannot fake an interest in any of your opinions.

NinoTheMindBender's picture

Rachel Maddow has voiced a similar opinion, but Jim Hightower said it first in 1996 (at least that's the earliest use I've found): "Bill Clinton is the best republican president we've had since Eisenhower. Some people say we need a third party; I say we need a second one."

Now I don't for a minute think that there is no difference in the parties, Hightower said this before the GOP went completely off the rails, but for me the Clintons are what the republicans used to be, and I had no use for them then.

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detroitmechworks's picture

I thought it was "Republican-Lite". All of the flavor of Republicans, but half the guilt.

I see they have responded to the complaints of bad taste by adding in MORE Guilt.

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I do not pretend I know what I do not know.

hearted next year and will write stacks of diaries about how they were betrayed with Kos leading the pack

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wilderness voice's picture

They're getting practice.

First, I was offended and angry. Now I feel contempt for these morons.

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I hadn't noticed that, yet. But it will come, if we all have the misfortune of her Presidency.

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I believe he was basically a carrier. IOW, I bet he was lied to, and sent out to carry the lie to others.

I base that on the fact that he eerily disappeared from view for years during Bush admin, almost as if they didn't trust him to say the right things in public. Suddenly, all we ever heard from--or saw--was Wolfowitz. One of the creepier things that happened during Bush Admin. Up there w/Pelosi's 180-degree turn on Iraq War.

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"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha

"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver

Clinton seems to have done, however that is the excuse and Colin Powell knew what he was doing and for that I have zero respect for him.

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MsGrin's picture

...and they knew about his personal account and accommodated it and made sure it was safe.

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'What we are left with is an agency mandated to ensure transparency and disclosure that is actually working to keep the public in the dark' - Ann M. Ravel, former FEC member

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Haikukitty's picture

You could tell he was uncomfortable with that speech he gave.

Which means at heart he is probably not generally a dishonest person, since lying made him uncomfortable.
Unlike Cheney, who seems to delight in lying to the peons.

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but in that case, I wonder what the years-long disappearance of the Secretary of State was all about!

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"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha

"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver

Haikukitty's picture

after that debacle, as well as maybe they wished to keep him out of the public eye to keep him quiet.

I don't know.

But I just remember watching him speak and thinking, he's lying and he doesn't like it.

Of course, there's always the possibility that I am simply wrong. As crazy as that sounds! Smile

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in the many books I've read that Cheney actually told Powell that he had enough "political capital" to take a few "hits" on that whole Iraq war thing... Powell knew, and he went along for God only knows what reasons - maybe he really thought it was necessary to invade Iraq and I'm sure he too was fed lots of shitty intel that said Saddam had those WMDs, but he went along and lied us into not only a war, but a now protracted and endless one. He should keep his head low, and at least he actually has and isn't out there telling America we need another one.

I think your intuition there is spot on. I think the man regrets it, but that really doesn't do us much damned good.

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Only a fool lets someone else tell him who his enemy is. Assata Shakur

JayRaye's picture

until he made that speech. If he didn't know then he should have known, he should have done his research. And if he did know and was passing on something he knew to be a lie, then that is unforgivable.

and now he has that on his conscious as the horrible results of the Iraq invasion go on and on and on....

And same with Hillary. That vote and the harm which has followed is enuf reason right there for me to NEVER give her my vote.

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Never be deceived that the rich will allow you to vote away their wealth.-Lucy Parsons

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about the Great Orange Politico. If you don't worship and adore the party leadership, you are considered a hater.

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with a work around.

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You set the record of a person who left dailykos

Kos has taken us for granted

Like the democratic faction

Now that a poll has come out with Bernie & Hillary tied in CA, the chances that Bernie could actually be the candidate are going up

The establishment, and the establishment supporters like Kos, are fighting to save what is left

Their arguments are so stupid, so repetitive, and as more Hillary diaries make the REC list on DK, and more diaries "Kos is full of shit" make it to the Rec list, the site will turn into TPM

There are many like me who only go there for BNR and a little more

If Bernie wins & Kos keeps up the crap the site could go down quickly

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I'm not accusing YOU, LaFeminista, of saying this - but it really makes me ridiculously angry that people are conflating what Powell did (and did when current rules were not in place yet) with what Hillary did. It is willful ignorance on their parts, but then again, their entire support of Hillary is comprised mostly of willful ignorance, so why am I surprised?

Yes, they both did things that contain the words "personal" and "email" - but they are not the same thing at all.

Essentially, its the equivalent of writing a report, and instead of filing it in a government library, Powell filed it in a public library - in both cases it is put on record somewhere where he would be unable to personally delete or modify the data.

Hillary filed her report in her own basement - no record of it, no official access, no copies filed to the outside world.

It is NOT the same thing.

A personal email account through a corporate provider's server IS NOT the same as having the data only on a server in your basement. It is levels of magnitude above it, and was also done years later after more stringent requirements were enacted by State. Will everyone please understand this for the sake of my sanity?

It is killing me that they are trying to say the two things are the same thing. Not to mention, back when Powell did it, you could not email outside of the department on the government email. That was not the case when Hilary was in office.

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and they need to - because it matters.

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Bollox Ref's picture

We have a letter spouting similar obtuseness in our local rag today (Star Tribune, MN).

Fortunately, the paper has a scathing editorial about Clinton's unapproved, personal, private, basement server.

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Gëzuar!!
from a reasonably stable genius.

k9disc's picture

No YouTube, no FB, hell, No Gmail.

Might as well harken back to the mimeograph machine.

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“Tactics without strategy is the noise before defeat.” ~ Sun Tzu

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I enjoyed typing the masters and correcting mistakes with that foul-smelling green stuff!

Yeah, I'm old. Smile

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Life is strong. I'm weak, but Life is strong.

Thanks. This makes it clear to me and will help when talking to others.

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The Clinton camp has been using that for months....

Nothing to see here and anyway Colin Powell did it toooooooo

It's BS and it's dangerous to dismiss things like this

It sets up a situation where we the people are asked to turn a blind eye to whatever the political class does...as long as the guilty party has the right Letter after their names. No matter what it is

and anyway.... The man who lied to us and the world about WMD in Iraq (Powell) did it too so it's all good.

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Orwell was an optimist

The Clinton camp has been using that for months....

Nothing to see here and anyway Colin Powell did it toooooooo

It's BS and it's dangerous to dismiss things like this

It sets up a situation where we the people are asked to turn a blind eye to whatever the political class does...as long as the guilty party has the right Letter after their names. No matter what it is

and anyway.... The man who lied to us and the world about WMD in Iraq (Powell) did it too so it's all good.

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Orwell was an optimist

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A personal email account through a corporate provider's server IS NOT the same as having the data only on a server in your basement. It is levels of magnitude above it, and was also done years later after more stringent requirements were enacted by State. Will everyone please understand this for the sake of my sanity?

Yes, Yes, Yes!!!

It's the difference between having an email account via public (free) and/or private ISP accounts where the ISP owns the servers..........., and owning one's own private server in one's own basement.

An email ACCOUNT and a email SERVER are two entirely different concepts, and the way $Hillary and her endorsers use the terms so loosely, it "sounds like" the difference between having a Yahoo or Gmail account..., and they don't explain the concept of having an email server in one's own home, so, of course it loosely "sounds like" $Hillary had the same thing Powell and others have had through a public email ACCOUNT. According to $Hillary supporters, the home SERVER is just a minor detail to be ignored. They want their sheeple to be zeroed in on the term "private email ACCOUNTs" to keep the sheeple permanently confused, never understanding what a private email SERVER is so they'll be conned into still voting for $Hillary, thereby excusing her illegal, unethical, behavior.

Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr........

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I believe in an America where the separation of church and state is absolute ..., where no church or church school is granted any public funds or political preference. — President John F. Kennedy, Houston, TX, 12 September 1960

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I replied "There is a difference between an email account and a private server. Bzzzzt. Propaganda."

One spit-filled reply and one Shillary like. So far. I just called NPR propaganda! I must be crazy!

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Hey! my dear friends or soon-to-be's, JtC could use the donations to keep this site functioning for those of us who can still see the life preserver or flotsam in the water.

because she is only as bad as a Republican?

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of death and destruction, at that.

Hmm. Sort of like a Kissinger type of guy.

Had respect for Powell till he did that, simultaneously destroying his career and the very doctrine that bore his name, along with hundreds of thousands of dead Iraquis, more displaced, the looting of museums containing the earliest records of human civilization, thousands of US soldiers, enabling religious fanatics in Iran and the whole region, and costing us trillions.

Hmmmm. Not that dissimilar to Hillary, actually . . . .

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"Fear is the mind-killer" - Frank Herbert, Dune

Raggedy Ann's picture

I don't know if you are aware of my interaction with them over the "throwing of chairs" fest at Nevada, but I implored them to set the record straight. Today, I sent them the following email (keep in mind, I'm in communication with a "Justin" over there):

Thank you for your responses, Justin. I do appreciate you attending to my concerns. My last concern will have to do with this whole email server issue of hrc's. Please correct your reporters from saying that Colin Powell did it too. He did not have a private server in his home, so no, he did not do what hrc did. You have to get it straight or it is just perpetuating more falsehoods. I can't say it enough that it is imperative for your reporters to do independent research on these issues.

Enjoy your day!
Kind regards,
Raggedy Ann

I think it is important to call them out on any lies they perpetuate so they know the public is listening and understanding what the real issues are.

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Lily O Lady's picture

might actually care. I suspect that NPR doesn't.

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"The object of persecution is persecution. The object of torture is torture. The object of power is power. Now do you begin to understand me?" ~Orwell, "1984"

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and I decided to let them know that nexty year when I re--up (I donate a $100 every other year - to pay for all those years my kids watched Sesame Street and I couldn't afford much) anyways... where was I?

Just got off of work and I have "homework"....

I'm sticking with OPB/PBS but only because I support the local stuff they do. But I will let them know loud and clear I am not with NPR. I haven't liked them or listened to them since they did a rebuttal of Howard Zinn's obituary.

Zinn is one of the many heroes my daughter has. NPR really blew it when they shat on him like they did. I wrote many times letting them know - they didn't care.

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It may not be just your local NPR affiliate but news in general. Every time I've seen / read a story about any subject I know well, they alway get something wrong. It makes me wonder about all the stories I see where I don't know anything about the subject.

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http://www.npr.org/sections/ombudsman/2016/05/18/478579787/fact-checking-nprs-reports-on-vegas-violence

ETA: Oops -saw this link was posted here over the weekend. I was offline and missed it!

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Raggedy Ann's picture

Their ombudsperson is still spinning in his response. When I mentioned to them, on May 18th that they didn't bother to fact check their story before they went on air, they responded to me on May 23rd that the AP said it too! They sound like hrc saying Colin Powell used private email, too, like it's the same thing and okay. I told them I don't care what the AP did, I contacted THEM! Like a wrinkle resistant shirt that doesn't want to wrinkle but still does, they are trying to take responsibility for their reporting by almost taking responsibility. Scratch one-s head

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"The “jumpers” reminded us that one day we will all face only one choice and that is how we will die, not how we will live." Chris Hedges on 9/11

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But I appreciate that it was at least addressed that there was no PROOF of any violence.

I sadly lost my respect for NPR a while ago, even prior to this primary, although it has put the nail in the coffin, for sure. And its far more painful, to me, than losing DK. I was a daily listener, and I so appreciated their balanced and in-depth reporting, back when they did that kind of thing.

Sad times.

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"The “jumpers” reminded us that one day we will all face only one choice and that is how we will die, not how we will live." Chris Hedges on 9/11

Wink's picture

J Ryan's Pub Tue. 5/31 7-9pm if you're near the 'cuse Tues. night.

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Off Topic... Bernie Meetup at J Ryan's Pub Tue. 5/31 7-9pm if you're near the 'cuse Tues. night.

That's J Ryan's Pub in Syracuse, New York, right?

Wink

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"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides

Wink's picture

was meant for riverlover who is from the area (and would know the reference). But, thanks. Smile

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NWIA's picture

I hate a good many Dems and have respect for few. I've never felt so queasy about registering as I did when I switched to caucus for Bernie.

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is quite palpable. I consider them deluded at best, and really think they're terrible for having cast the votes they did. They're complicit in their own destruction if that's what happens.

Now, the Democratic Party? That I hate. I would love to see it Berned down entirely. Its only purpose is to play a part in the kabuki while the puppeteers screw us more. Fuck 'em.

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Cassiodorus's picture

-- you don't usually think about working as hard as you can to make up for that candidate's numerous flaws.

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“The Democrats and Republicans want you to believe they are mortal enemies engaged in a desperate struggle when all the time, they are partners with a power-sharing agreement.” - Richard Moser

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GOS this AM. I feel soiled. They have totally lost their shit.

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That is because the GOS and Hillary's campaign is built of cards... One card fails and the whole thing will fall down. It is the only way I can understand the mindset of them at this point.

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War, War Never Changes - Fallout Series

Leema's picture

I don't even go there to rec diaries any longer. It really helped me resist the temptation to peek by deleting my bookmarks (easy click) to that now ignominious site.

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When wealth rules, democracy dies.

Not anymore. If you want to have your views mocked by the Center Right, by all means, go over there. I do from time to time, just to self-flagellate myself. But David Brock poisoned the water right after the Wisconsin primary. And Kos swallowed his lines hook, line, sinker, rod, reel, sixpack, redneck, and pickup truck. (Makes me so mad I want to throw a chair--but I'll settle for lifting it.)

I do agree with Robert Reich's advice: go ahead and support Hillary after the convention (assuming a miracle doesn't happen), but immediately work on a Bernie-oriented progressive party for the midterms and beyond. Time to break the stranglehold of the Corporatist and Leviticus Freak two-party system.

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Shahryar's picture

"Game Over: Emailgate Just Crippled the Clinton Express" - The Observer

"Hillary Clinton Seeks Momentum in California Race" - The Wall Street Journal

"In Trump Attacks, Clinton Finds Her Voice" - CNN

That last one is particularly annoying because it confirms she stands for nothing.

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Leema's picture

and she might not get that free pass to the nomination given the IOG report and the ensuing fallout.
http://imgur.com/jhNVDCs

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When wealth rules, democracy dies.

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