Calls for unity are misplaced: democrats are already unified behind Hillary

And that, in a nutshell, describes the problem with the modern Democratic Party.

In almost every state that has voted there is a clear pattern: the vast majority of long-time democrats (who skew older), regardless of race and other factors, generally favor Hillary Clinton. Where Bernie has won has been bastions of relatively more liberal democrats form the majority of democratic voters and where independents are allowed to vote. Consequently her campaign's call for Bernie to stand down is both misplaced and reflective of an ignorance about the serious problems the Democratic Party faces.

Democratic share of voter registrations is down to 29% from a peak of 34% or so during the Obama administration. What Hillary and democrats who "call for unity" fail to recognize is that the call is falling on the wrong audience. Democratic-allied Independents left the party because of the way politicians like Obama and Hillary have consistently turned their backs on core democratic values. The democrats who remain democrat do so because they are either generational democrats or because they have invested some time and effort into what they view as their political means to power and wealth. These democrats are already "unified." There isn't much more one anybody can do to "unify" democrats.

Perhaps what they mean is that democratic-allied independents need to "unify" and vote Democratic, probably out of fear of Trump. That's another essay altogether, but it should suffice to note that this election is definitely different. Independents aren't necessarily interested in playing that game this time around. That's not to say they'd vote Trump. Rather it seems many would simply write-in (however ineffectively) Bernie or vote some other liberal-seeming third-party candidate (e.g. Jill Stein). The problem is clear: Democratic politicians must do two things to get this "unification". First, they must acknowledge the real grievances of those of us who've left. Second, they must demonstrate with action that they are willing to fight for our causes.

My view is it's too late this election season for that to happen. The slate of democratic candidates is, mostly, far too much of the Clinton variety: craven, beholden to wealthy interests, and even antagonistic toward anybody on the left. They're all unified with each other. But so are we, and my hope is in the next election cycle or two we can truly show that we don't need them to take our political power.

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anyone want to be a Democrat?

Clinton, and her ilk, count on average American workers(and those who want to be workers) and the relatively few organized into unions with contracts, to come out, volunteer, and vote for her when she and the rest have no plans to do anything to remedy their plight and reverse deindustrialization.

Who's living in the dream world? I think the declining number of Americans who identify as Democrats is an accurate reflection of the betrayals and neglect from Clinton and Obama and the rest of the corporate Dems.

Clinton has little chance in the general election, especially since Trump has staked out anti-TPP, anti-NAFTA, and pro Social Security stances to her left. (Not that anyone should believe what either one say on the campaign trail).

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"The justness of individual land right is not justifiable to those to whom the land by right of first claim collectively belonged"

The Democratic party left me, when it was taken over by Al From, the Clintons, DLC, Third Way. I've been an Independent ( in an open primary state) for years. Usually vote Democratic, the second Martha Coakley debacle was an exception ( she lost the first to Scott Brown even with my vote) and we got Rep. Gov. Charlie Baker AND ( my vote) Evan Falchuk AND the United Independent Party. Yeah, us. Petitions against giving Martha Coakley the nomination for a second time, but when we handed them in, we were told it was still "Her Turn" and "she was a woman." Sound familiar?

Bernie or Bust.

Democrats are tone deaf. http://www.politico.com/story/2016/05/democratic-convention-insiders-223384
"“Democrats cannot remain tone-deaf to the concerns of the party's grass roots,” added an Iowa Democrat. “Many of the people supporting Sanders are new to the process and the party. They are supporting ideals, not a party. It is foolish to think that they will join something they were never a part of and something that they feel is not very welcoming to them.”

Fear as a motivating factor, well, the only time to listen to Bill Clinton. REPEAT: THE ONLY TIME Smile

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Independents aren't necessarily interested in playing that game this time around. That's not to say they'd vote Trump.

I know of many long time democrats, possibly myself included, that plan on voting for trump should the dems be so foolish as to anoint clinton. I see Indies going for trump big time in this case.
Bernie or Bust...

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on 'our' side.

In my observation over the years, MANY will turn out just to vote AGAINST Hillary - perhaps more than would show up to vote for her.

Trump has his supporters, and they will turn out.

Unless they have hacked everything hackable across the country, I do not see her being able to pull off a win. Perhaps they have been doing a practice run this spring.

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'What we are left with is an agency mandated to ensure transparency and disclosure that is actually working to keep the public in the dark' - Ann M. Ravel, former FEC member

MsGrin's picture

Lee Camp (Redacted Tonight) has gotten into my skull with all his work on exit polls. I'm not at all sure the results have been as reported and that those who vote are actually giving her more votes.

And now they have ceased rendering exit polls. Funny, that.

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'What we are left with is an agency mandated to ensure transparency and disclosure that is actually working to keep the public in the dark' - Ann M. Ravel, former FEC member

to swing the results more than a delegate or two.

I think the core of the two mainstream parties are basically conservative in the sense that they're averse to change and partisan to the point where they would rather not believe their lying eyes, and that these make up the majority of primary voters in closed contests.

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These are somewhat dry and a bit of a slog, but this guy is a mathematician and I believe his analysis is sound.
We have condemned elections in foreign countries as fraudulent with less evidence than we have in this primary.

https://www.reddit.com/r/SandersForPresident/comments/4fnau4/probability...

https://richardcharnin.wordpress.com/2016/03/16/five-democratic-primarie...

By the way, have I mentioned that the Republican exit polls are predicting results just fine?

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"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha

"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver

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And can we get this Richard Charmin fellow to post here? I'd like to see it summarized tidily.

Meanwhile, this book is now out:

http://www.amazon.com/False-Choices-Feminism-Hillary-Clinton/dp/1784784613

Get it while they're still in stock!

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The ruling classes need an extra party to make the rest of us feel as if we participate in democracy. That's what the Democrats are for. They make the US more durable than the Soviet Union was.

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but he ought to. Let's invite him.

I'll see if I can contact him at his website.

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"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha

"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver

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As someone who got banned in the past from several websites and started his own blog, he might not be open to joining another blog, of course, but I've asked. We'll see what happens!

I will go look at False Choices although I feel like I did about Piketty--pretty much seems obvious to me on the face of it! However, sometimes obvious things need to be said, and loudly.

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"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha

"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver

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is married to Doug Henwood, editor of the Left Business Observer and author of the Clinton expose "My Turn", which I use quite often in discussing Clinton.

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The ruling classes need an extra party to make the rest of us feel as if we participate in democracy. That's what the Democrats are for. They make the US more durable than the Soviet Union was.

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"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha

"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver

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“Tactics without strategy is the noise before defeat.” ~ Sun Tzu

have long been the gold standard for calling elections. The first time in my experience when they "changed" was in 04. Brokaw and msnbc called Ohio for Kerry then low and behold a couple hrs later Bush magically pulls ahead. By the media not doing exit polling for the rest of the primary raises a red flag. The fix is in folks.
Bernie or Bust...

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MsGrin's picture

...but I've been watching what's been happening at the county level in my state and it doesn't smell right at all. People are letting it slide - the campaign is ignoring it (or unconvinced). I don't buy what I'm seeing represents support of We The People.

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'What we are left with is an agency mandated to ensure transparency and disclosure that is actually working to keep the public in the dark' - Ann M. Ravel, former FEC member

With a strong plurality of the electorate being independents, it doesn't matter whether there is GOP or Democratic unity, what matters is whether you can capture a significant number of independents (not the same as the "center", which I don't think the DNC or Clinton understands). That's why closed primaries are stupid- they are nothing but an echo chamber and a distraction from the reality of the independent voter.

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but it's going to be herculean to unite those of us who realize that we are no longer part of that establishment.

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There is nothing which I dread so much as a division of the republic into two great parties.. This...is to be dreaded as the greatest political evil under our Constitution.--John Adams

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you said 'the vast majority of long-time democrats (who skew older), regardless of race and other factors, generally favor Hillary Clinton...'

In Kentucky, a closed primary she had more Democrats vote against her than for her.

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true: democrats, by and large, have supported her and given her her biggest wins, while Sanders' support with democratic-allied independents have propelled his campaign.

Recent developments may make some (many, I'd hope) of her voters regret it, however.

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