"The silence is deafening. Break it."
Given the gravity of the events last night and the amazing efforts put in by all the participants of the NV 3rd Dem Caucus, we owe it to them to make sure this is seen. We cannot let the media black out such a clear breach of the public trust. I believe we need to start pushing the videos and the links to stories and periscopes much harder. We need to force the media to cover it or lose credibility. With the videos and testimony available it is reprehensible that CNN is not covering it right this second and that a million stories a min are not flying out of every outlet.
The silence is deafening. Break it.
Nevada Democratic Convention: Stories of Voter Suppression
The Nevada Democratic Convention lasted for at least 16 hours on Saturday, but ended even more controversially than it began. The Convention began with a highly debated decision to change the Convention rules despite not getting the needed majority of vocal votes. But at the end of the night, when a motion was made to recount the delegates, the chair of the Convention closed out the meeting without even giving the delegates’ a chance to say “nay.” Now it’s looking like legal action will be the next step.
#nvdemconvention ended with motions still on the table amid protests. (1) pic.twitter.com/xJmuBsKWwn
— J.H. Fearless (@jhfearless) May 15, 2016
The Convention began with a highly debated decision to change the Convention rules despite not getting the needed majority of vocal votes.
Changing my profile pic to this in solidarity with the #TeamBernieNV pic.twitter.com/RMMhpOPmTZ
— BernieForThePeople (@Bernie4People) May 15, 2016
FWIW, there is a possible civil suit available. The DNC has conducted the nomination in violation of the established rules, where they've inherently made a claim of a fair nomination, and by accepting/offering membership based on that claim, the DNC has violated it.
"... they've inherently made a claim ..." to sell you a service, a national nomination, that's the only real worth of an (R) or a (D) designation. There might be a civil case under "implied warranty of fitness for a particular purpose" -- that particular purpose meaning a fair and honest national party nomination. See U.C.C. § 2-315. Implied Warranty: Fitness for Particular Purpose. - https://www.law.cornell.edu/ucc/2/2-315
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The gloves are off now
They are no longer even making a pretense of being democratic.
You know... It sickens me to read the comments and
most diaries at TOP, and now it's sickening me to read the diaries and comments here.
It is so demoralizing to read and know exactly what's going on and there doesn't seem to be anything I can do about it.
The only thing that I know I can do is keep supporting Bernie with money and #NeverHillary, never voting for Hillary. But I live in a blue state, so the stupid voters will vote for her, the same stupid voters who voted for an asshole republican for governor -- twice, with tons of Democratic elected officials publicly supporting the republican governor.
I don't know how much more I can take. After the convention, I am definitely resigning and changing my party from the Democratic Party that I have been a member of my entire adult life and supported and worked for as a teenager.
I am just so sick over this.
On second thought, I think I need to hear a Bernie
speech. He's certainly not giving up, and I'll try not to give up, either.
How bout a song or two
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSP4ZaXhZ-U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HOgd3kmaosc
Thank you. I was really feeling down when I wrote
that comment.
People have been pushing this all day on Twitter
And last night.
Twitter has been keeping it from trending today.
But it is out there.
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
Here's a twitter trend cloud for the last 24 hours
http://trends24.in/united-states/~cloud #nvdemconvention has been #4 over the last 24 hours but hasn't shown up on any top 10 twitter trend list.
Beware the bullshit factories.
It was on my Trend list at least
briefly last night/early morning when it hit 90.2K.
We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit.--Aristotle
If there is no struggle there is no progress.--Frederick Douglass
It's a little depressing looking at the trivial shit trending
ahead of #nvdemcaucus. At least I haven't seen Justin Beiber trend for a long time.
Beware the bullshit factories.
They censor for Hillary on occasion.
#WhichHillary really riled somebody.
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
Don't let her make you despair.
She's a dementor.
EXPECTO PATRONUM!
http://harrypotter.wikia.com/wiki/Patronus_Charm
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
Wow, I didn't know you could cast a patronus
That is made of awesome.
Can a movement have a collective Patronus?
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
Shirley, may I call you Shirley?
I agree with how you feel about it sickens you to read the diaries and comments at TOP. Anytime a Bernie supporter calls them out on their bullshit or makes a comment there, the bots swarm all over us.
Now Armando has written another of his condescending diaries and he attacks anyone who has a different view about what happened yesterday.
Try not to get demoralized because that's what they want to happen. They are stuck in their fantasy land that Hillary walks on water and will be the greatest president since Obama.
No matter how many times people write about how corrupt she and Bill are, they just won't hear or see it.
They have done the same thing with Obama when it comes to his continuing what Bush did regarding the bogus war on terror.
It's now okay to use drones in countries that haven't threatened us, invade countries on made up claims, like Assad using sarin gas on his people. The gas actually got to Syria by the way of Benghazi when the CIA and Hillary's state department were running guns and other types of weapons out of the embassy. Funny how the Benghazi committee didn't ask what Stevens was doing when he got killed, isn't it?
Yes keep supporting Bernie and if he doesn't win then we all need to look for ways to continue what he started.
My good news is that I'm in a red state and its going to vote for Bernie over Hillary.
And this is a great site where we get to write about the truth without being attacked 'here'.
But as I have mentioned before, the bots are monitoring what we write here and on Reddit and other sites
So childish.
And after Hillary wins the presidency and shifts to the right, we get to tell them that we tried to warn them
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists.
~Hannah Arendt
They won't care...
She is what they want Period. Her politics and policies do not matter to them. She is center-right and not a Republican (in name), and they like that just fine.
We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit.--Aristotle
If there is no struggle there is no progress.--Frederick Douglass
Orwellian
No one told them 1984 wasn't supposed to be a manual.
"Polls don't tell us how well a candidate is doing; Polls tell us how well the media is doing." ~ Me
Thank you. I appreciate your comment.
Just FYI, my name isn't really Shirley -- just a user name I chose here.
I decided not to use my gos name here because I want it both ways: I want to say what I want here, but if it's repeated at gos, I'll be banned, and I want to stay at gos to support BNR, OPOL, Bob Swern, and a couple other people.
Clever. I figured I'd take a chance on being banned for what I
say here or wherever. I'll abide by Kos' rules on his own Web site. But there's not an effing chance in Hades that I'll abide by his rules all over the Internet. He does not own the entire thing. Neither does Hillary. If I get banned for what I say elsewhere, then it's Kos' and the Dem party's loss.
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Shirley...
If you value your mental health, don't go to DKos anymore. Its sole purpose now is to depress you.
Find a comfy chair here and enjoy the conversations on a variety of things.
Bernie has a lot of realistic support here.
Gëzuar!!
from a reasonably stable genius.
yep
saw all the attacks on those who don't support Hillary back in February... after 10 years of going there ... haven't been back since and have no intention of returning. if they are democrats, I don't want to be one
And it's only gotten worse since Feb
They protect their victim-hood bubble with a vengeance now.
"Polls don't tell us how well a candidate is doing; Polls tell us how well the media is doing." ~ Me
It will be alright...
...at 83, as a disaster related life long Dem, my vote has rarely mattered. But I go on ....
It is imperative it is exposed.
Twitter, Reddit, Instagram, Facebook, everything, everywhere. The MSM is turning a blind eye. It must be talked about incessantly in the social meadiaverse.
"The “jumpers” reminded us that one day we will all face only one choice and that is how we will die, not how we will live." Chris Hedges on 9/11
I don't know about Reddit or Instagram
But the others are controlled. Anti-oligarchy topics don't trend of they don't want them to. We've seen this before with Occupy and some of the Arab spring actions the oligarchs didn't like
Dig within. There lies the wellspring of all good. Ever dig and it will ever flow
Marcus Aurelius
They are, but there's a lag
we usually get things trending by the thousands--then they come and shut them down. A lot of information dissemination happens before they get there.
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
it started even before yesterday, the rules stuff
Dan Rolle... video below explains a lot and if you click through to youtube, he provides more in the written info including more links, i.e.
[video:https://youtu.be/W_7c0I8ODKw]
Excellent video, explains the whole disgusting
sequence of events. Thanks for posting!
Hell is empty and all the devils are here. William Shakespeare
Thanks for posting the video and info.
It help clears up a lot. The tweets and live videos were somewhat confusing and contained some inaccurate information from whomever was speaking on them.
It is good to see that the NV people were being more proactive than what we have seen in most states. It is something people should have been doing in each state since we could see since Iowa the way the wind was blowing.
We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit.--Aristotle
If there is no struggle there is no progress.--Frederick Douglass
So...
The NV state party is pumping out some nonsense about 'following the rules' that in fact has nothing to do with the controversy.
The keys facts according to those that were there are that voting took place before the scheduled time, and that delegates were excluded from being counted because they had not confirmed their addresses with the NV State Party before the convention.
Those of you familiar with voter suppression tactics (primarily of the GOP) are aware that this suppression of the vote based on flimsy factors such as un-returned address confirmation cards/phone calls to out-of-service phone numbers as classic voter suppression.
The NV State Party is attempting to make it look like the Sanders delegates who were disallowed were "not really Democrats" (sounds familiar eh?) when in fact that was not the reason they were blocked from being counted. The credentials committee was packed with pro-Hillary members prior to the convention specifically with the goal of disallowing as many Sanders delegates as necessary for Hillary to 'win'. There were Sanders supporters on the credentials committee, and they have issued a 'minority report' stating that the Sanders delegates should have been counted.
There is a question in my mind how much, if any of these late rules changes by the NV State Committee were legal, considering that all rules for assigning delegates must be approved by the National DNC. The flimsy pretense used to deny Sanders delegates their role in the convention reeks of voter suppression, and may even be a violation of DNC rules.
I assume the Sanders camp or another outside group will immediately file suit to stop the certification of these clearly illegitimate results.
I am unbelievably pissed off
at everything that went down in Nevada. I seriously cannot believe the nerve of Barbara Boxer, the Democratic Party officials there, and the Hillary partisans. They can all kiss my ass, as far as I'm concerned.
This is war, goddamnit!
Also too, good call about the media blackout. I would think this would be something Rachel Maddow could potentially pick up, as she's done that kinda thing before. Also, if some of the high-powered internet media sites keep harping on it, WaPo or the NYT could pick it up.
Or, fuck, even Drudge. How sad is that?!
I kind of hate the Democratic Party right now. Yeah.
I miss Colorado.
I already loathe the
I already loathe the political system... watching a utterly corrupt system pretend it represents us doesn't fly in my book
I have read this on more than one site
People are pissed at how blatant she was in breaking the rules and being for Hillary.
She had the Gaul to say that we need civility in the Democratic Party and then she insulted the Bernie supporters?
She has certainly shed her skin as being a progressive. But her and DiFi have been in the corporation's pockets for decades. I'm glad that she is retiring , but she has gotten very rich by playing as a democrat during her career. As has most members of congress.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists.
~Hannah Arendt
Boo ourselves right out of the election, eh?
Glad to oblige, Sen. Boxer, glad to oblige.
"When we remember we are all mad, the mysteries disappear and life stands explained." - Mark Twain
Don't count on Rachel
her paycheck depends on her doing what she's told.
We've seen glimmers of that already in this cycle. Yes, even The Great Maddow is not immune to these shitty human beings and their shitty way of "winning".
"It is imperative it is exposed." Yes
I've never said as much, but, while the person clinging to the board in the ocean is nice visually, it represents being adrift and helpless, and leads credence to Shirley's comment directly above: "It is so demoralizing to read and know exactly what's going on and there doesn't seem to be anything I can do about it."
I'm more "I have only begun to fight" and "Damn the torpedoes"
I think it's a reference to the fact that way back when
our original group was called, amongst us "The Lifeboat."
Maybe real lifeboat with folks lustily rowing would be better. Or we could shift metaphors.
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
yeah, i get the castaway motif and all
And like I said, it's visually lovely.
But, yes, I would be in favor of shifting the metaphor, because it implies the place to be (i.e. GOS) is somewhere else ...
I say, this is the place to be, lively, open discussion in the public square! ;->
But thanks for "The Lifeboat" background info ...
At least it's not "The Raft of the Medusa"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Raft_of_the_Medusa
There is no justice. There can be no peace.
Clintons eating their own
whilst all at sea?
Gëzuar!!
from a reasonably stable genius.
Yech!
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
Gruesome story, great piece of art n/t
There is no justice. There can be no peace.
It's only negative if that is what you see
To me it is about hope rewarded. Being adrift at sea and being rescued. CStS had the foresight to initiate this place. JtC persevered and built it for us. That's all great - not sad. Bernie and his birdie shone a light on the truth. Twitter and FB have been roaring about the Clintons, the party corruption and are all Bernie or Bust. The MSM is old media. The internet is where it is at.
"Religion is what keeps the poor from murdering the rich."--Napoleon
DK: "the Internet is where it is at."
And we must protect it at all costs. While I can see the government trying to protect their interest in being able to track us, I can also see them trying to limit free speech. We need to find ways to thwart both as well as limit, or better yet, eliminate corporate intrusion and monopolies.
We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit.--Aristotle
If there is no struggle there is no progress.--Frederick Douglass
As I said,
it is a rorschach test. You see what you want to see.
"Religion is what keeps the poor from murdering the rich."--Napoleon
You know what--
you're right. This actually isn't a Lifeboat anymore.
I wonder what image is going to suit us best?
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
It is okay to keep something
for it's historic value.
I really like the lifeboat. c99% has been a lifeboat for me, for sure.
'Well, I've wrestled with reality for thirty five years, Doctor, and I’m happy to state I finally won out over it." Elwood P. Dowd "
CantStoptheSignal is being too modest
Under her previous user name, SouthernLiberalinMd., CStS began a Google group a couple of years ago. We affectionately called it the Lifeboat. It was from that Google group, after a few previous iterations, that this website was born. JtC had some website building experience and he volunteered to try to build a website.
Do I hear the sound of guillotines being constructed?
“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~ President John F. Kennedy
Thanks, GG. :-)
Not me, us.
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
Thanks, GG. :-)
Not me, us.
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
Excellent essay and comments, GreWolf. Perhaps this image?
The street is where we win back democracy. Mass nonviolent resistance in the streets outside the corridors of power. Relentless, non-stop, everywhere. We need a new colour revolution. And the first order of business is the colour :=) I vote for red&green. And you?
Resilience: practical action to improve things we can control.
3D+: developing language for postmodern spirituality.
Damn
I finally watched that video. I wish I hadn't. I am beyond pissed. I have more contempt for these "democrats" than I've ever had for ANY republican. That includes cheney and bush. I was going to wait and see how the convention shakes out but this week I'm going to my BOE and changing my party from D to Indie or Green. If my Union, the UAW, endorses clinton, even after the convention, should she win, I'm pulling my retiree dues and resigning my elected positions. Should Bernie not be on a ticket in November I will vote for the most likely candidate that can beat clinton. Should that be Trump or Richard Nixon's moldy corpse then so be it. The Democratic party runs deep in my family's history but I am now done with it. For those of you who want to stay and try and change it, good for you. I'm too old.
This is what I meant in the other diary about
the Clinton machine wanting us to leave--they're doing things out in front of God and everybody that are certain to disgust just about everybody.
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
I would not be surprised if the Clintons have a backup plan if
Bern wins enough delegates to be competitive - that is, somehow disallow all the votes if Bern supporters are no longer Dems by the convention. Please do NOT change your registration until after the convention, just in case! Let Bern go to the convention with his full complement of Dems at his back.
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The MSM blackout is so telling
that those of us on the ground existing are but particles that big speakers blow away by sound. Or, in this case, negative sound. Perot was right, sucking noise it is. I voted for that man, once.
I look for a pithy post to fwd to FB.
Hey! my dear friends or soon-to-be's, JtC could use the donations to keep this site functioning for those of us who can still see the life preserver or flotsam in the water.
Boxer was out of line
By the way she kept taunting the Bernie supporters and then cheering Hillary's name.
She's to blame for the anger of Bernie's supporters the way she kept running her mouth.
The blatant corruption of this election is gauling. Bill going to 4 voting places that were pro Bernie and being disruptive and having the secret service block of parking areas and making it harder for people to vote. I wonder just how many people didn't vote because they didn't have the time because they needed to get back to work?
Well, the blinders are off and people can see exactly what the Democratic Party stands for finally.
Vote for the most corrupt, scandal ridden candidate who bought the 33 delegates before she even announced her candidacy or vote for the man who is running on the ideals of what the party used to represent and who they stood for.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists.
~Hannah Arendt
Real Clear Politics makes mention
but it doesn't tell the whole story.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/05/15/nevada_democratic_cred...
And they have a couple of videos:
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/
Life is strong. I'm weak, but Life is strong.
Heavy has a pretty good report
Nevada Democratic Convention: Stories of Voter Suppression
From the Comments section:
We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit.--Aristotle
If there is no struggle there is no progress.--Frederick Douglass
they weren't supposed to get a chance to plead their case
The entire purpose of changing the rules before the convention was to allow the chair to violate the rights of those in attendance at will.
The credentials committee was a sham body packed with Hillary supporters that was meant to create the excuse needed to block Sanders delegates from being counted. It was obvious what was being planned for the convention, and I hope that whatever court hears this case going forward will take into account that Sanders supporters knew what was going to happen all along, and tried to sue to stop it, but were denied, and now that the NV State Party has accomplished its undemocratic mission to fix the convention results, only a court can stop this disgusting perversion of democracy.
this
was my sense as well and I spent more hours than I can spare trying to make sense of it all.
Also expect they'll do some variation of this for Philly with Barney Frank at Rules Committee etc. Bernie was spot on right to call out DWS for stacking the committees.
We just need more and more people to wake up.
it's a revolution
The MSM will not televise the revolution.
“Until justice rolls down like water and righteousness like a mighty stream.”
AP has a brief story about
AP has a brief story about the disruption by "Sanders' supporters throwing chairs, but no explanation of the circumstances
AP news story on Nevada Convention
And just that quickly, the story is gone...shuffled to Twitter
I'll be honest
I'm still trying to understand WTF happened that started it all.
Sorry, I just don't grok this caucus process at all. I know we got screwed, but exactly how it happened is something I'm going to have to study, and I'm not sure I want to devote the time.
Meddle not in the affairs of Dragons - For thou art crunchy and good with ketchup
Some good news about Bernie
at this site:
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/05/georgia-trump-clinton-sanders-223195
The good news is in the fourth paragraph. In Georgia, yet!
Life is strong. I'm weak, but Life is strong.
That was good news
and I've heard and read that before that Bernie is the only candidate that has positive ratings and will beat Trump. However, this is no disrespect to you, but on that same page was an article titled, "Is Sanders 2016 the Nader of 2000?" I effing hate that. Full disclosure, I don't read Politico every week, and I didn't read the story, because I'm not going to fall for it! The headline tells it all. Most people have the impression that Nadar took votes from Gore, and therefore GWB won. I get it, it's all an effing game and we're the stupid pawns being played in this giant corporate pseudo democratic game that's been going on for decades.
And this story! I wanted to scream! I can't go to Chicago, I don't think, but I'm thinking of giving to the scholarship fund. I can't go to D.C. or Philadelphia. I will continue to support Bernie with my dollars. But what the hell is going to happen? Are we Progressives mad enough yet to do something? Just venting this morning because this story was the first thing on my mind when I woke up!
That was good news
and I've heard and read that before that Bernie is the only candidate that has positive ratings and will beat Trump. However, this is no disrespect to you, but on that same page was an article titled, "Is Sanders 2016 the Nader of 2000?" I effing hate that. Full disclosure, I don't read Politico every week, and I didn't read the story, because I'm not going to fall for it! The headline tells it all. Most people have the impression that Nadar took votes from Gore, and therefore GWB won. I get it, it's all an effing game and we're the stupid pawns being played in this giant corporate pseudo democratic game that's been going on for decades.
And this story! I wanted to scream! I can't go to Chicago, I don't think, but I'm thinking of giving to the scholarship fund. I can't go to D.C. or Philadelphia. I will continue to support Bernie with my dollars. But what the hell is going to happen? Are we Progressives mad enough yet to do something? Just venting this morning because this story was the first thing on my mind when I woke up!
This is why we fight
My music for today....
I'm so angry about this primary - and I just keep getting angrier...
[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLSOzcEQjiE]
Sharing on Facebook! Doing my little part to push back against
all the "But they were SO rude!" nonsense at TOP.
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That sharing is getting a lot of further sharing, as well as, of
course, generating some controversy. Nice!
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