Not that I go there very often. Thought I would see what was happening over there tonight, asked a Bernie supporting diarist a question, he answered, then we were both pounced on by the HRC cheerleaders.
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"If/when you get banned here, check out c99," and got jumped all over for that!
When I responded, "If you want to keep them, you could try to engage instead of mocking the frustrations that caused the hyperbole, but so far the comments don't look promising," I was jumped all over for that!
I was encouraging trolls, ya see.
OTOH, I did a fundraising diary the other day, and to my surprise, a few Hill people donated. Along with of course a lot of Berners and independents. So not everyone is automatically hostile to every Bern person every time. I didn't expect that.
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The theme of this persons comments could be summed up in 2 words
FUCK whitey
Was shocked to see dozens of HRC supporters reccing this persons hate
Thankfully enough people flagged this crap and the brand new user is now BOJOd.
But the person who said (albeit on DU) that JEWS hate PoC is still being embraced and recced by an amazing number of people who, I guess, agree with the anti semite .
... here at c99p, you get to fix typos in your comments! wheeeee!
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The earth is a multibillion-year-old sphere.
The Nazis killed millions of Jews.
On 9/11/01 a Boeing 757 (AA77) flew into the Pentagon.
AGCC is happening.
If you cannot accept these facts, I cannot fake an interest in any of your opinions.
you can reply to and "rec" comments at any time (no "dead threads"
No downrating (although as membership grows, and trolls start to appear, this may have to be re-thought by admin).
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That was one more straw OT, when threats were made to report a bad thought to admin. Note the passive voice. Once some of the abusers started whining for Markos to come help, my anger level went way up.
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Seems like the Democratic Party is going the same route...
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Economic: -9.13, Social: -7.28,
but the nows and thens are getting less and less frequent. I like to look for diaries that have nothing to do with the primary battles, but it's harder to find them these days. I'm still reserving the right to go back and say "told ya so" if Hillary gets elected and drags us into another pointless war to prove she's Tough on Terror or whatnot.
blown up my account in a giant ball of flaming snark and call-outs to all the "Usual Suspects" that seem to take great joy in dividing the community.
I'm still reserving the right to go back and say "told ya so"
When Kos let them off the leash with the whole Ides of March bullshit that place went completely off the rails.
It was like what would happen if the "Mean Girls" got one of their own appointed as principle to a high school...
It kinda sucked at first, because my normal morning habit was Caffeine and DKos, but it was surprising how quickly I "weened" myself off of that place.
If it hadn't gotten so toxic and become so readily apparent that a LOT of people there that I thought were progressive were just DLC'ers in progressive clothing it may have been harder, but those facts coupled with the fact that I had a better, friendlier community over here to chill with made it a piece of cake.
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And this seems a good place to air out my frustrations with TOP. I actually hadn't been going there for quite some time.
It started one day several years ago when I was having a discussion with another poster about Confederate graveyards. I really don't recall how we got on the subject. All the sudden MB jumps in and practically called us both racists because we were discussing Confederate cemeteries. WTF? Actually I wish I'd known something about my family at the time because this could have been hilarious. Instead it just pissed me off. There was absolutely no reason for that reaction to an innocuous conversation. I left and didn't venture back for two years.
When I did give the place another go, it had gotten nuts with the ads and this Sign the Petition pop up that drove me nuts. I didn't recognize most of the names, much of the writing sucked out loud, and I was seeing diaries that were maybe two paragraphs long - lots of them. Wow, what had happened to all those wicked smart people I used to read on there? They'd also recently debuted DK 33 1/3 or something and it took some getting used to.
But I stopped in most mornings, relegating myself to the Pootie Diaries and C&J with an eager click whenever I saw something else that looked like it had meat on it. But soon the drop ins got fewer and farther in between
I missed the lead up to the Ides of March thing, but I stopped in just in time to see it. Back then I didn't know much about Bernie except to figure he didn't stand a chance. I'd pretty much acquiesced to voting for a woman that I had never cared for - not as FLOTUS not as SoS.
Right after that I started noticing the hostility blossoming everywhere. Every freaking diary on the r/h side was either about Bernie or Hillary with the attendant flame war. I noticed something else too - I didn't recognize a single diarist. I knew they'd sent out a crapload of Facebook invites, and figured all these folks were noobs. But then I started pointing at their names and.... huh? Joined in 2005? Joined in 2004? Joined in 2006? So, why have I never seen anything written by these people before? Including comments? I never took the time to check out their history because I caught the scent of death in the air.
Then I saw one day where some Hill-bot who has joined last January was suddenly a left side FPer. I thought of all the brilliant people who'd been there for years and never got that offer and that pissed me off.
Then, one day, I saw a link to c99p in a comment and dropped in for a look see. Been stopping in every day since. I can't add much to the political discussions because quite frankly I'm so friggin' burned out on politics that I could vomit. I'm 65 years old, so I've witnessed the slow and agonizing downward spiral first hand. I had high hopes for Obama. I have a hard time getting high hopes anymore. I'll vote for Bernie again in the general, but I think the fix is in.
Anyway, remember that smell of death? I've dropped into the GOS the last couple of days. Something is AFU'd big time over there. Yesterday I was trying to watch the video of that tow truck asshat and I kept hearing this gawd-awful screeching, squalling and giggling. I knew it was one of the ads that was set to auto-play at top volume, only I couldn't find it.
Just a bit ago I dropped over again to see if it was still doing it. Tonight we have a new annoyance. trying to read a diary when all the sudden the page gets jerked down about four paragraphs to another auto-run ad. tried to pull it back up and - no dice. It just kept zapping down to the same spot. Can't miss the ads! I'm on SS and the check is dinky, so I could never afford to get a paid membership. I used to feel guilty about that. Now I think I'm glad.
So the gist of all this is. It was once a great site and I've learned more there than I'd ever learned anywhere. But nothing gold can stay.
I'm just so happy that I stumbled across the link to this place that day. Thanks for letting me ramble and rant
reserving my still alive 2006-era account for an "and the horse you rode in on" post at some point in the future, as well. There are several things that will be able to trigger it- I can be patient if needed.
I'm doing the same. Keeping my powder dry, as it were. If it comes down to it, if it's Hillary and The Donald, when The Donald wins, I'm gonna let those bastards have it with both barrels. Not that it'll change anything--it's just that it would be so well-deserved, no matter how much they point fingers and say "Bernie Did It, it's all HIS fault...."
It'll feel good. It'll be cleansing. It'll be closure. And dammit, it'll be enjoyable as hell....
Don't see Mass Southpaw anymore. Liked his writing too. Most of the time I'm here though during my blogging time.
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rec'ing BNR and OPOL, etc. Missed doing it today and felt much better not to even go to that site. Didn't realize how much I really despise going over there until I missed one day. No more. I'm sorry not to see the good work of BNR anymore and miss OPOL's great diaries, but Daily Kos just isn't something I feel good about supporting anymore in any way.
I'm done with the place. Period. The place is a cesspool of ill will. How they expect to support the Democratic Party by creating ill will is beyond me. And also not my problem. The sooner the Democratic Party dies, the better for the progressive movement.
Now I need to get my 1000+ diaries transferred away from that place.
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I'm done with the place. Period. The place is a cesspool of ill will. How they expect to support the Democratic Party by creating ill will is beyond me. And also not my problem. The sooner the Democratic Party dies, the better for the progressive movement.
Now I need to get my 1000+ diaries transferred away from that place.
1000+ Diaries! Yikes! I had trouble enough with 2!
Love "cesspool of ill will", too!
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and I have never missed a day, and only missed one deadline (1pm central) once by 10 minutes and that was due to a crash on my former computer which was an old wreck, many of the gray hairs on my head were due to that old Dell and XP. Been loving my Apple computer.
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From ANOTHER NEW MEMBER about Bernie over there? All of the hillbots jumped up and down to welcome her and said it was one of the best diaries written. How many times have they said that? I'm also wondering who is writing these 'brilliant' diaries? This one was particularly offensive.
I see the names of the new users and they all have 4 digits in them.
Good lord, and they think that the Bernie supporters will just climb on the Hillary bus and vote for her? Surprise!
I'm not sure how many times I have pointed out that when it was the Bush administration and the GOP doing the same things that Obama and Hillary had done, the site was against it. Especially the amount of money and who it came from. But also Obama's use of drones, his illegal wars of aggression and putting troops back in Iraq after he promised not to. And the boots on the ground in Syria.
But at least he has ended two wars and hasn't started any new ones. At least that's what I keep reading there.
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There were problems with running a campaign of Joy while committing a genocide? Who could have guessed?
I may not have read the diary you refer to (or maybe I did, there are so many!), but I read teacherken's diary about some "famous feminist" no one ever heard of unless they read the Nation, because that's where she has always worked. Same old tired fake anti-Bern talking points, but somehow she has cred as a "famous feminist". Sounds just like another woman of privilege and probably paid by the Clinton campaign as well. Supposedly a creative poet, yet can't come up with a single original reason to support Hill. She competent, I tell you, competent! And electable too!!
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Yeah, what's up with that? I mentioned it above and I can't figure it out. People I'd never seen before, not even in comments, but their profiles all say they joined over ten years ago? I never checked out their profile pages - lack of any real interest. But is it possible they've been Manchurian Candidates that long?
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But at least he has ended two wars and hasn't started any new ones
Maybe... if you only count the Middle East. But we're playing with fire where both China and Russia are concerned.
The NeoCons and NeoLibs are not going to be satisfied until we actually declare WWIII. That's just one of the things that scares me the most where a Hill as Prez is concerned. She's got almost as much to "prove" as Bush II did. Not for the same reasons, of course. But who cares what the reasons are? The end result is always the same: war, suffering, trauma, death. And then she gets crowned as a "war president" like Bush.
I keep having bits of pertinent Nostradamus quatrains run thru the back of mind regarding where we are now. One that always struck me made it sound as tho we'd be years into WWIII before anyone recognized it as such. I'll be danged if it doesn't fit this situation to a tee.
I gotta dig those old books back out again and take another look. I put 'em away after 9/11. I think I'd like to read those quatrains again, with the world as it is now as reference.
Hillary's supporters. They used to be against everything that she stands for when it was the GOP doing them.
The wars and special interests money, but look at how they tie themselves into knots when people point out where her donations are coming from. They say it isn't the banks, the corporations or any other big donation issues, they say that the donations come from the people working at those places.
They have blinders on and will be in for a big shock when she passes the TPP, privatizes social security and starts more wars including the one with Russia.
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There were problems with running a campaign of Joy while committing a genocide? Who could have guessed?
If MY tribe does the same thing, "Well, of course we have to do it too in order to be competitive and win..."
Hypocrisy, It isn't just for Republicans anymore.
The ONE good thing that has come from this shit show is that it has become readily apparent that the Democratic Party is as rotten at it's core as is the Republicans and now more people than ever are aware.
Maybe we will get lucky and BOTH main parties can join the Whigs in the Dustbin of History and hopefully we can get some new ones in that get back to conducting the PEOPLES business and not the Oligarchs.....
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DK is now a bubble website.... Talking to itself inside a getting emptier bubble...supporting people like MARK Warner and angrily demanding Bernie turn over his list of donors. So it can be used by the bubble people to get at what they call Bernie's ATM
Given the incredible hostility shown to ANYONE who dares stray from absolutely and undying love for HER I think DK has now become PUMA central ... Where the HRC pumas who walked after Obama got nominated have become the new DK base.
PLEASE CONTINUE TO REC THE BNR.. it is still one of the most recced diaries on DK and that is an important dynamic to continue.
Boy, are they gonna be in for a shock if he ends up handing them an empty ATM. Because ain't nobody going to fill it for her. Not no way, not no how...
DK is now a bubble website.... Talking to itself inside a getting emptier bubble...supporting people like MARK Warner and angrily demanding Bernie turn over his list of donors. So it can be used by the bubble people to get at what they call Bernie's ATM
Given the incredible hostility shown to ANYONE who dares stray from absolutely and undying love for HER I think DK has now become PUMA central ... Where the HRC pumas who walked after Obama got nominated have become the new DK base.
PLEASE CONTINUE TO REC THE BNR.. it is still one of the most recced diaries on DK and that is an important dynamic to continue.
I'd prefer to be bored by a government doing its job, qualified candidates singing the same old progressive song I know won't go off tune when they're elected, etc.
that are interesting just to me for personal knowledge and fun... thanks to "life" commanding more and more of my personal time!
However, the "H" and "I" sounds more like they come from the quatrains commonly associated with Hitler. The quatrains usually grouped under the "WWIII" headings mention a blue-turbaned man coming out of Babylon (the Middle East), and someone with a name of "Mabus" (could be an anagram) who will be the one to ease the way for the 3rd antichrist. Remember.. "antichrist" to N. doesn't mean the same as it does in Revelation. It just means, basically, a human monster... someone like Hitler or Nero.
Don't make fun of me... but I also read Tarot. Back in the day, I saw Bush winning the presidency, and I also saw the long time period and trouble before anyone would be named. Saw several more things that have come to pass in these intervening years. Still waiting on one that I hope doesn't have to happen -- the nationwide taking to the streets by all of us who have been disenfranchised.
But after Bush was appointed Prez, I put the cards away and I haven't read them since. I'm almost afraid to pick them back up... 'tho a friend has been trying to get me to "read" this election year for her.
One thing's for sure, I tried every which way to make "Mabus"="Bush." I just KNEW that man was going to take down the country. Didn't count on him taking the down the entire global economy, tho!
If one were to reverse the letters in "Mabus", just flip the whole thing around, then what you end up with is "sudam" (with the 's' reversed as well).
I'm not well-versed in Nostradamus, and I don't believe that Saddam was the devil no matter how hard the Bush War Crime Empire tried to make him one. But it might be possible that what Nostradamus was reporting was human activity and not the Divine?
The hordes of Hill shills jumping all over you in the comments. That's when I left. For good. I agree with many here, OPOL and BNR and a few others were worth the trip into the swamp, but it's gotten absolutely out of control lately.
You don't need that abuse, UnblinkingEye, just like I don't need to witness it.
The moderation has gone to sleep apparently. I got a warning about tipping a comment that had 'fuck you' in it, but they can tell people to do the same or worse and nothing happens to them.
And the new members are so condescending and put Bernie's supporters down all the time.
I have a lot of friends over there and I comment in their diaries that have nothing to do with the election. That's why I stay.
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There were problems with running a campaign of Joy while committing a genocide? Who could have guessed?
are a bunch of ringers, set up to beef up the site stats. Those name#### accounts are all sockpuppets, they've been being set up there since 2012, IMO.
Persona management. They're not even trying to hide it anymore. It's such a joke...
with some of the comments I made last weekend over there. I was amazed to find out they slid by as acceptable.
I went an entire week without reading much of anything over there. I checked out the critter diaries for each day and that was about it. I spent 5 minutes in it this afternoon on a break, and realized WHY I didn't read political diaries over there anymore. It's like it has morphed into a microcosm of the every day world... people are not only rude... they're downright MEAN - for no good reason at all!
I mean - debate me and we can have fun. Show me where I'm wrong, and I'll cede the argument to you if I can't counter with something better. But don't call me an idiot or a "Bernie Bro" or a DFH simply because you disagree with what I'm saying! Geesh! They're like hyenas - when one starts in on you, it's like the rest of the pack pounces on immediately afterwards. Anymore, if and when I write a comment, I won't even check for responses. I don't need the aggravation.
Seagulls are kind of funny and endearing. Hyenas are crafty and work in packs together - I'm going with the original analogy simply due to the far more dangerous nature of hyenas.
The 1978? movie with Sutherland, Nimoy, (didn't it feature Kevin McCarthy, from the 1956 original?)
Good movie. I learned to duplicate the scream by drawing air in and vocalizing it. Also sounds a lot like the noise just about every undersea creature in Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea made!
anti-Semite like Bravenak is praised--and tipped--to the skies. Jew-hatred, red-baiting... it's all good for the Clintonistas. It truly is a cesspool of hate there, with any remaining diamonds absolutely buried in shit.
In case anyone's curious, here's a sample of Bravenak's trash, posted, for the record, on Daniel Greenfield's rabidly rightwing site:
I cannot stand him. His fans are racists who run around calling blacks racist and wonder why we hate him and them. I don't even LIKE Hillary but I will vote for her just so his fans can feel the sne BERN that they have been passing out. Look at the racist comments here. I did not know jews hated us blacks so much. Good to know. I will return it in kind. There are so few of them It's a wonder they have the gall to think about being racist against blacks.
Note that she's scrubbed the comments from that site, but they were quoted at TOP by a handful of users there willing to stand up against anti-Semitism. You'd think that shunning Bravenak would be an easy call for TOP administration, but again, it's all good if you support Clinton. She was briefly in timeout a few months ago, as though apologizing and a slap on the wrist can wash the record. Link to a TOP thread citing the scrubbed comments: http://www.dailykos.com/comments/1497565/60165323#comment_60165323. The comment threads in that diary are a revelation.
a number of such examples of kick-down kiss-up. It's particularly disgusting when people who have good historical reasons why they shouldn't do it, do it anyway.
Hell, I got freaked at BLM, but got over that. I always kept in mind that "she" could be a false flag. But after those comments OT, and Nothing from admin?
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I will occasionally type in my browser and it pops up. I have not been there for anything (including by accident) for a week? I keep typing the address because I used to read the many different diaries. Now? It makes me angry and bitter when I head there. I metaphorically fell out of my chair when I saw a full throated defense of the TPP as a diary and the number of people who agreed with it and knew my days being comfortable there were numbered. It seems to me that the GOS has been revealed to be a community for what would be socially moderate conservatives and not progressives let alone liberals. As if economic issues are completely divorced from social issues, never the twain shall meet and woe betide anyone who approaches social injustice from the position of the economic. It is difficult to avoid it as I have lurked there for as long as I can recall (at least a decade?) and it is habit.
That is exactly what they are, and what is Hillary is - although I'd call Hillary a socially moderate neocon or neolib - not much difference to choose from between the two.
They are discussing the possibility that Trump is briefed regarding classified information. They fantasize about how he reveals classified information at a press conference and then:
Indicting the Republican Nominee might be problematic...
One of the fucking Democratic candidates is indeed facing possibility of indictment for mishandling classified information and they are having a circle-jerk pretending Trump is in the same situation. Damn the Dem party has lost it's way as the ship was boarded by imbeciles with no principles other than to win at all cost.
Edit: To clear up, I'm referring to a Hillary circle-jerk I saw at TOP today.
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Edit: To clear up, I'm referring to a Hillary circle-jerk I saw at TOP today.
You're going to have to start clarifying which Hillary circle-jerk at TOP you're talking about, as there are quite a few of those there now.
If you're talking about this one, I tried to read it, I truly did try.....
...... but I didn't make it to the Tip Jar!
I just can't stomach the lies and the lack of critical thinking; much less to be called a "troll" because of my insistence on using such things on the track record and utterances of HRC. (From the latter may Cat deliver our poor nation!)
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were flagged, since the auto TO hits after three in 24 hours. Can't do that now. I'm sure TOs are in my future. When they hit, I'm going to complain that if they don't want me to have so many comments flagged, I need to know when comments are being flagged. Another stupid modification, IMHO, that makes it easier for bullying cowardly flaggers to work behind the scenes.
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I'd spent a bit of my youth there, before it turned into a dump. It used to be a nice field where we'd play ball, run around, sometimes have a picnic. Then it became a place where people dumped their trash. It's been that way for awhile. Occasionally I think I'll go down and maybe sit on the green grass except there isn't any green grass there now. It's all....garbage. It stinks too. Tomorrow I'll try to remember it's not a beautiful field anymore. I'll try to remember it's a garbage dump.
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Christ that place has gotten hostile
Not that I go there very often. Thought I would see what was happening over there tonight, asked a Bernie supporting diarist a question, he answered, then we were both pounced on by the HRC cheerleaders.
Gold is the wealth of kings; silver is the wealth of commoners; barter is the wealth of peasants; and debt is the wealth of slaves.
Glad to be out.
Don't like being forced to conform. I do like to debate.
Strange
Political debate sites demand conformity.
A new diarist wrote a harshly anti-Hillary diary, I posted,
"If/when you get banned here, check out c99," and got jumped all over for that!
When I responded, "If you want to keep them, you could try to engage instead of mocking the frustrations that caused the hyperbole, but so far the comments don't look promising," I was jumped all over for that!
I was encouraging trolls, ya see.
OTOH, I did a fundraising diary the other day, and to my surprise, a few Hill people donated. Along with of course a lot of Berners and independents. So not everyone is automatically hostile to every Bern person every time. I didn't expect that.
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Got a link?
I've got some gas to pour on the fire..
Gold is the wealth of kings; silver is the wealth of commoners; barter is the wealth of peasants; and debt is the wealth of slaves.
Heh. It may be too late to worry about it now, the diarist was
banned. But the diary is still up. http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/5/5/1523509/-Disappointment-Underst...
I still don't think the top pic looks like Hitler, but it's kind of blurry.
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Yet today the GOS was privileged to have one of the brand
New PoC posters commenting in a few diaries
The theme of this persons comments could be summed up in 2 words
FUCK whitey
Was shocked to see dozens of HRC supporters reccing this persons hate
Thankfully enough people flagged this crap and the brand new user is now BOJOd.
But the person who said (albeit on DU) that JEWS hate PoC is still being embraced and recced by an amazing number of people who, I guess, agree with the anti semite .
Orwell was an optimist
I quit cold turkey...highly recommended n/t
I hate to stop informing
the uniformed. But they insist upon it.
yabbut ...
... here at c99p, you get to fix typos in your comments! wheeeee!
The earth is a multibillion-year-old sphere.
The Nazis killed millions of Jews.
On 9/11/01 a Boeing 757 (AA77) flew into the Pentagon.
AGCC is happening.
If you cannot accept these facts, I cannot fake an interest in any of your opinions.
Also what I like:
There are known knowns; there are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns – the ones we don't know we don't know.
Hopefully down rating consists of:
People posting a comment saying they disagree.
prog - weirdo | dog - woof
Worst-case scenario:
folks private-messaging admin if somebody's being an ultradick.
I don't see Kos-style HRs ever getting started here. It's just not our style, not our culture.
"US govt/military = bad. Russian govt/military = bad. Any politician wanting power = bad. Anyone wielding power = bad." --Shahryar
"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides
I hope that never happens here.
That was one more straw OT, when threats were made to report a bad thought to admin. Note the passive voice. Once some of the abusers started whining for Markos to come help, my anger level went way up.
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Too much hate with hide rating
Love Trumps hate
Beware the bullshit factories.
They're not capable of
being better informed, they've put on the blinkers with gorilla glue.
President Business put them on everyone using the dreaded Kragle
(Krazy Glue) . . . “Le GOS” has become like that movie where the whole world was made of, well, LEGOs . . .
DKos and experiment of...
We the "Unwilling" led by the "Unknowing."
Seems like the Democratic Party is going the same route...
I'm the only person standing between Richard Nixon and the White House."
~John F. Kennedy~
Economic: -9.13, Social: -7.28,
I glance over now and then
but the nows and thens are getting less and less frequent. I like to look for diaries that have nothing to do with the primary battles, but it's harder to find them these days. I'm still reserving the right to go back and say "told ya so" if Hillary gets elected and drags us into another pointless war to prove she's Tough on Terror or whatnot.
This right here is probably the ONLY reason I haven't
blown up my account in a giant ball of flaming snark and call-outs to all the "Usual Suspects" that seem to take great joy in dividing the community.
When Kos let them off the leash with the whole Ides of March bullshit that place went completely off the rails.
It was like what would happen if the "Mean Girls" got one of their own appointed as principle to a high school...
It kinda sucked at first, because my normal morning habit was Caffeine and DKos, but it was surprising how quickly I "weened" myself off of that place.
If it hadn't gotten so toxic and become so readily apparent that a LOT of people there that I thought were progressive were just DLC'ers in progressive clothing it may have been harder, but those facts coupled with the fact that I had a better, friendlier community over here to chill with made it a piece of cake.
"I used to vote Republican & Democrat, I also used to shit my pants. Eventually I got smart enough to stop doing both things." -Me
Had some things cooking in my head for some time
And this seems a good place to air out my frustrations with TOP. I actually hadn't been going there for quite some time.
It started one day several years ago when I was having a discussion with another poster about Confederate graveyards. I really don't recall how we got on the subject. All the sudden MB jumps in and practically called us both racists because we were discussing Confederate cemeteries. WTF? Actually I wish I'd known something about my family at the time because this could have been hilarious. Instead it just pissed me off. There was absolutely no reason for that reaction to an innocuous conversation. I left and didn't venture back for two years.
When I did give the place another go, it had gotten nuts with the ads and this Sign the Petition pop up that drove me nuts. I didn't recognize most of the names, much of the writing sucked out loud, and I was seeing diaries that were maybe two paragraphs long - lots of them. Wow, what had happened to all those wicked smart people I used to read on there? They'd also recently debuted DK 33 1/3 or something and it took some getting used to.
But I stopped in most mornings, relegating myself to the Pootie Diaries and C&J with an eager click whenever I saw something else that looked like it had meat on it. But soon the drop ins got fewer and farther in between
I missed the lead up to the Ides of March thing, but I stopped in just in time to see it. Back then I didn't know much about Bernie except to figure he didn't stand a chance. I'd pretty much acquiesced to voting for a woman that I had never cared for - not as FLOTUS not as SoS.
Right after that I started noticing the hostility blossoming everywhere. Every freaking diary on the r/h side was either about Bernie or Hillary with the attendant flame war. I noticed something else too - I didn't recognize a single diarist. I knew they'd sent out a crapload of Facebook invites, and figured all these folks were noobs. But then I started pointing at their names and.... huh? Joined in 2005? Joined in 2004? Joined in 2006? So, why have I never seen anything written by these people before? Including comments? I never took the time to check out their history because I caught the scent of death in the air.
Then I saw one day where some Hill-bot who has joined last January was suddenly a left side FPer. I thought of all the brilliant people who'd been there for years and never got that offer and that pissed me off.
Then, one day, I saw a link to c99p in a comment and dropped in for a look see. Been stopping in every day since. I can't add much to the political discussions because quite frankly I'm so friggin' burned out on politics that I could vomit. I'm 65 years old, so I've witnessed the slow and agonizing downward spiral first hand. I had high hopes for Obama. I have a hard time getting high hopes anymore. I'll vote for Bernie again in the general, but I think the fix is in.
Anyway, remember that smell of death? I've dropped into the GOS the last couple of days. Something is AFU'd big time over there. Yesterday I was trying to watch the video of that tow truck asshat and I kept hearing this gawd-awful screeching, squalling and giggling. I knew it was one of the ads that was set to auto-play at top volume, only I couldn't find it.
Just a bit ago I dropped over again to see if it was still doing it. Tonight we have a new annoyance. trying to read a diary when all the sudden the page gets jerked down about four paragraphs to another auto-run ad. tried to pull it back up and - no dice. It just kept zapping down to the same spot. Can't miss the ads! I'm on SS and the check is dinky, so I could never afford to get a paid membership. I used to feel guilty about that. Now I think I'm glad.
So the gist of all this is. It was once a great site and I've learned more there than I'd ever learned anywhere. But nothing gold can stay.
I'm just so happy that I stumbled across the link to this place that day. Thanks for letting me ramble and rant
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Truth be told, I'm
reserving my still alive 2006-era account for an "and the horse you rode in on" post at some point in the future, as well. There are several things that will be able to trigger it- I can be patient if needed.
You better believe it
I'm doing the same. Keeping my powder dry, as it were. If it comes down to it, if it's Hillary and The Donald, when The Donald wins, I'm gonna let those bastards have it with both barrels. Not that it'll change anything--it's just that it would be so well-deserved, no matter how much they point fingers and say "Bernie Did It, it's all HIS fault...."
It'll feel good. It'll be cleansing. It'll be closure. And dammit, it'll be enjoyable as hell....
I just tiptoed away in the dark
Just the way I always thought I'd leave when things got too much for me.
I don't think anyone even noticed, or cared.
There is no justice. There can be no peace.
I only go there for the BNR, TomP, OPOL, BobSwern.
Don't see Mass Southpaw anymore. Liked his writing too. Most of the time I'm here though during my blogging time.
"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." - JFK | "The more I see of the moneyed peoples, the more I understand the guillotine." - G. B. Shaw Bernie/Tulsi 2020
I've been doing that too
rec'ing BNR and OPOL, etc. Missed doing it today and felt much better not to even go to that site. Didn't realize how much I really despise going over there until I missed one day. No more. I'm sorry not to see the good work of BNR anymore and miss OPOL's great diaries, but Daily Kos just isn't something I feel good about supporting anymore in any way.
I'm done with the place. Period. The place is a cesspool of ill will. How they expect to support the Democratic Party by creating ill will is beyond me. And also not my problem. The sooner the Democratic Party dies, the better for the progressive movement.
Now I need to get my 1000+ diaries transferred away from that place.
Never be deceived that the rich will allow you to vote away their wealth.-Lucy Parsons
1000+ Diaries (!)
1000+ Diaries! Yikes! I had trouble enough with 2!
Love "cesspool of ill will", too!
"US govt/military = bad. Russian govt/military = bad. Any politician wanting power = bad. Anyone wielding power = bad." --Shahryar
"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides
the Dems are committing Hillaricide
They just do not realize it yet.
yup, over 1000. Hellraisers began more than 3 years ago
and I have never missed a day, and only missed one deadline (1pm central) once by 10 minutes and that was due to a crash on my former computer which was an old wreck, many of the gray hairs on my head were due to that old Dell and XP. Been loving my Apple computer.
Never be deceived that the rich will allow you to vote away their wealth.-Lucy Parsons
All your hard work is really appreciated
by many more people than you realize.
There is nothing which I dread so much as a division of the republic into two great parties.. This...is to be dreaded as the greatest political evil under our Constitution.--John Adams
thx kharma, it is a lot of hard work, but it's also something
I have a passion for and that makes it all worth effort.
Never be deceived that the rich will allow you to vote away their wealth.-Lucy Parsons
Some of the folks you're missing are @ reddit
https://www.reddit.com/r/Kossacks_for_Sanders/new/
All of the above people
including Mass Southpaw are members here.
Do I hear the sound of guillotines being constructed?
“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~ President John F. Kennedy
Don't see Mass Southpaw anymore.
They've been posting at r/Kossacks for Sanders.
"Polls don't tell us how well a candidate is doing; Polls tell us how well the media is doing." ~ Me
Did you read the condescending diary
From ANOTHER NEW MEMBER about Bernie over there? All of the hillbots jumped up and down to welcome her and said it was one of the best diaries written. How many times have they said that? I'm also wondering who is writing these 'brilliant' diaries? This one was particularly offensive.
I see the names of the new users and they all have 4 digits in them.
Good lord, and they think that the Bernie supporters will just climb on the Hillary bus and vote for her? Surprise!
I'm not sure how many times I have pointed out that when it was the Bush administration and the GOP doing the same things that Obama and Hillary had done, the site was against it. Especially the amount of money and who it came from. But also Obama's use of drones, his illegal wars of aggression and putting troops back in Iraq after he promised not to. And the boots on the ground in Syria.
But at least he has ended two wars and hasn't started any new ones. At least that's what I keep reading there.
There were problems with running a campaign of Joy while committing a genocide? Who could have guessed?
Harris is unburdened of speaking going forward.
Hey Snoop! What a beautiful photo, one of your best!
I may not have read the diary you refer to (or maybe I did, there are so many!), but I read teacherken's diary about some "famous feminist" no one ever heard of unless they read the Nation, because that's where she has always worked. Same old tired fake anti-Bern talking points, but somehow she has cred as a "famous feminist". Sounds just like another woman of privilege and probably paid by the Clinton campaign as well. Supposedly a creative poet, yet can't come up with a single original reason to support Hill. She competent, I tell you, competent! And electable too!!
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I see the names of the new users and they all have 4 digits
Yeah, what's up with that? I mentioned it above and I can't figure it out. People I'd never seen before, not even in comments, but their profiles all say they joined over ten years ago? I never checked out their profile pages - lack of any real interest. But is it possible they've been Manchurian Candidates that long?
Meddle not in the affairs of Dragons - For thou art crunchy and good with ketchup
Hea, Snoop...
Maybe... if you only count the Middle East. But we're playing with fire where both China and Russia are concerned.
The NeoCons and NeoLibs are not going to be satisfied until we actually declare WWIII. That's just one of the things that scares me the most where a Hill as Prez is concerned. She's got almost as much to "prove" as Bush II did. Not for the same reasons, of course. But who cares what the reasons are? The end result is always the same: war, suffering, trauma, death. And then she gets crowned as a "war president" like Bush.
I keep having bits of pertinent Nostradamus quatrains run thru the back of mind regarding where we are now. One that always struck me made it sound as tho we'd be years into WWIII before anyone recognized it as such. I'll be danged if it doesn't fit this situation to a tee.
I gotta dig those old books back out again and take another look. I put 'em away after 9/11. I think I'd like to read those quatrains again, with the world as it is now as reference.
This is what bothers me the most about
Hillary's supporters. They used to be against everything that she stands for when it was the GOP doing them.
The wars and special interests money, but look at how they tie themselves into knots when people point out where her donations are coming from. They say it isn't the banks, the corporations or any other big donation issues, they say that the donations come from the people working at those places.
They have blinders on and will be in for a big shock when she passes the TPP, privatizes social security and starts more wars including the one with Russia.
There were problems with running a campaign of Joy while committing a genocide? Who could have guessed?
Harris is unburdened of speaking going forward.
they
they will figure a way to justify those too. Watch. Or dont watch since I understand passing TPP will also impact internet freedom.
It's not Blinders, It's Tribalism...
If YOUR tribe does something, it's evil.
If MY tribe does the same thing, "Well, of course we have to do it too in order to be competitive and win..."
Hypocrisy, It isn't just for Republicans anymore.
The ONE good thing that has come from this shit show is that it has become readily apparent that the Democratic Party is as rotten at it's core as is the Republicans and now more people than ever are aware.
Maybe we will get lucky and BOTH main parties can join the Whigs in the Dustbin of History and hopefully we can get some new ones in that get back to conducting the PEOPLES business and not the Oligarchs.....
"I used to vote Republican & Democrat, I also used to shit my pants. Eventually I got smart enough to stop doing both things." -Me
I think you are wrong... Those that are still regs there were
Against the DLC/3rdway
DK is now a bubble website.... Talking to itself inside a getting emptier bubble...supporting people like MARK Warner and angrily demanding Bernie turn over his list of donors. So it can be used by the bubble people to get at what they call Bernie's ATM
Given the incredible hostility shown to ANYONE who dares stray from absolutely and undying love for HER I think DK has now become PUMA central ... Where the HRC pumas who walked after Obama got nominated have become the new DK base.
PLEASE CONTINUE TO REC THE BNR.. it is still one of the most recced diaries on DK and that is an important dynamic to continue.
Orwell was an optimist
HA!
Boy, are they gonna be in for a shock if he ends up handing them an empty ATM. Because ain't nobody going to fill it for her. Not no way, not no how...
I think you are wrong... Those that are still regs there were
NEVER Against the DLC/3rdway
DK is now a bubble website.... Talking to itself inside a getting emptier bubble...supporting people like MARK Warner and angrily demanding Bernie turn over his list of donors. So it can be used by the bubble people to get at what they call Bernie's ATM
Given the incredible hostility shown to ANYONE who dares stray from absolutely and undying love for HER I think DK has now become PUMA central ... Where the HRC pumas who walked after Obama got nominated have become the new DK base.
PLEASE CONTINUE TO REC THE BNR.. it is still one of the most recced diaries on DK and that is an important dynamic to continue.
Orwell was an optimist
Interesting times
We live in.
Too interesting for me.
I'd prefer to be bored by a government doing its job, qualified candidates singing the same old progressive song I know won't go off tune when they're elected, etc.
Amen to that!
Dough, Ray(gan), Me-me-me, Fa(llujah), (cheneyesquely) “So?”
La-la-la (I can’t hear you),
Tea (Party),
Dough.
"May you live in interesting times."
One of the best curses I have ever heard.
"I used to vote Republican & Democrat, I also used to shit my pants. Eventually I got smart enough to stop doing both things." -Me
Nostradamus
I'm not very informed but it seems people claimed it referred to someone with a name starting with 'H' 'i' .
Perception.
I've been too negligent in pursuing studies
that are interesting just to me for personal knowledge and fun... thanks to "life" commanding more and more of my personal time!
However, the "H" and "I" sounds more like they come from the quatrains commonly associated with Hitler. The quatrains usually grouped under the "WWIII" headings mention a blue-turbaned man coming out of Babylon (the Middle East), and someone with a name of "Mabus" (could be an anagram) who will be the one to ease the way for the 3rd antichrist. Remember.. "antichrist" to N. doesn't mean the same as it does in Revelation. It just means, basically, a human monster... someone like Hitler or Nero.
Don't make fun of me... but I also read Tarot. Back in the day, I saw Bush winning the presidency, and I also saw the long time period and trouble before anyone would be named. Saw several more things that have come to pass in these intervening years. Still waiting on one that I hope doesn't have to happen -- the nationwide taking to the streets by all of us who have been disenfranchised.
But after Bush was appointed Prez, I put the cards away and I haven't read them since. I'm almost afraid to pick them back up... 'tho a friend has been trying to get me to "read" this election year for her.
One thing's for sure, I tried every which way to make "Mabus"="Bush." I just KNEW that man was going to take down the country. Didn't count on him taking the down the entire global economy, tho!
What I noticed
If one were to reverse the letters in "Mabus", just flip the whole thing around, then what you end up with is "sudam" (with the 's' reversed as well).
I'm not well-versed in Nostradamus, and I don't believe that Saddam was the devil no matter how hard the Bush War Crime Empire tried to make him one. But it might be possible that what Nostradamus was reporting was human activity and not the Divine?
Vowing To Oppose Everything Trump Attempts.
I too stopped reading the Tarot, Slightkc
Nothing but bad news every time...
It was stressing me out more than informing or entertaining me....
I don't sign in over there anymore, but I was lurking and saw
The hordes of Hill shills jumping all over you in the comments. That's when I left. For good. I agree with many here, OPOL and BNR and a few others were worth the trip into the swamp, but it's gotten absolutely out of control lately.
You don't need that abuse, UnblinkingEye, just like I don't need to witness it.
Good riddance!
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No problem
Information is their friend.
They will find out in the future.
They are amazingly rude anymore, aren't they?
The moderation has gone to sleep apparently. I got a warning about tipping a comment that had 'fuck you' in it, but they can tell people to do the same or worse and nothing happens to them.
And the new members are so condescending and put Bernie's supporters down all the time.
I have a lot of friends over there and I comment in their diaries that have nothing to do with the election. That's why I stay.
There were problems with running a campaign of Joy while committing a genocide? Who could have guessed?
Harris is unburdened of speaking going forward.
All commenters are equal
But some commenters are more equal than others.
prog - weirdo | dog - woof
4 legs good. 2 legs bad
there sure seem to be a lot of pigs there lately.
4 legs good 2 legs *better*
They've hit that low point.
There is no justice. There can be no peace.
Damn and here I am drafting an essay on the DNC as animal farm.
Stop stealing my thunder!
See, their morals, their code... it's a bad joke. Dropped at the first sign of trouble. They're only as good as the world allows them to be.
-The Joker-
At least you know
You'll have an appreciative audience
prog - weirdo | dog - woof
Those "new members"
are a bunch of ringers, set up to beef up the site stats. Those name#### accounts are all sockpuppets, they've been being set up there since 2012, IMO.
Persona management. They're not even trying to hide it anymore. It's such a joke...
I figured I'd pull up a TO or something
with some of the comments I made last weekend over there. I was amazed to find out they slid by as acceptable.
I went an entire week without reading much of anything over there. I checked out the critter diaries for each day and that was about it. I spent 5 minutes in it this afternoon on a break, and realized WHY I didn't read political diaries over there anymore. It's like it has morphed into a microcosm of the every day world... people are not only rude... they're downright MEAN - for no good reason at all!
I mean - debate me and we can have fun. Show me where I'm wrong, and I'll cede the argument to you if I can't counter with something better. But don't call me an idiot or a "Bernie Bro" or a DFH simply because you disagree with what I'm saying! Geesh! They're like hyenas - when one starts in on you, it's like the rest of the pack pounces on immediately afterwards. Anymore, if and when I write a comment, I won't even check for responses. I don't need the aggravation.
Good analogy, but I think of them more like seagulls...
If you ever dropped a pack of French Fries in a coastal town and seen the swarm you know what I mean.
Unfortunately for us, Progressives are now playing the role of the French Fry at GOS....
"I used to vote Republican & Democrat, I also used to shit my pants. Eventually I got smart enough to stop doing both things." -Me
Yes, seagulls, Alphalop - except...
Seagulls are kind of funny and endearing. Hyenas are crafty and work in packs together - I'm going with the original analogy simply due to the far more dangerous nature of hyenas.
Daphne DuMaurier and Alfred Hitchcock would disagree
Remember "The Birds"?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Birds_(story)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Birds_(film)
There is no justice. There can be no peace.
To me it reads more like
Invasion of the Body Snatchers. One wrong word and they all point and howl.
"Polls don't tell us how well a candidate is doing; Polls tell us how well the media is doing." ~ Me
Ah!
The 1978? movie with Sutherland, Nimoy, (didn't it feature Kevin McCarthy, from the 1956 original?)
Good movie. I learned to duplicate the scream by drawing air in and vocalizing it. Also sounds a lot like the noise just about every undersea creature in Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea made!
The more people I meet, the more I love my cats.
Seagulls aren’t really bodhisattva prophets like
Jonathan Livingston Seagull? How disappointing.
(I’m really dating myself with that reference.)
DFH
Hereabouts, "DFH" is an honorific compliment....
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"US govt/military = bad. Russian govt/military = bad. Any politician wanting power = bad. Anyone wielding power = bad." --Shahryar
"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides
and the admin at TOP looks the other way as a blatant
anti-Semite like Bravenak is praised--and tipped--to the skies. Jew-hatred, red-baiting... it's all good for the Clintonistas. It truly is a cesspool of hate there, with any remaining diamonds absolutely buried in shit.
Hillary Clinton 2016: I'm a proud progmoderate!
Bravenak's anti-Semitism tolerated at TOP...
In case anyone's curious, here's a sample of Bravenak's trash, posted, for the record, on Daniel Greenfield's rabidly rightwing site:
Note that she's scrubbed the comments from that site, but they were quoted at TOP by a handful of users there willing to stand up against anti-Semitism. You'd think that shunning Bravenak would be an easy call for TOP administration, but again, it's all good if you support Clinton. She was briefly in timeout a few months ago, as though apologizing and a slap on the wrist can wash the record. Link to a TOP thread citing the scrubbed comments: http://www.dailykos.com/comments/1497565/60165323#comment_60165323. The comment threads in that diary are a revelation.
Hillary Clinton 2016: I'm a proud progmoderate!
I don't go there any more, but I recall
a number of such examples of kick-down kiss-up. It's particularly disgusting when people who have good historical reasons why they shouldn't do it, do it anyway.
There is no justice. There can be no peace.
Gross. I thought there was something “off” about Bravenak. n/t
She was an angry Black, who was very off-putting.
Hell, I got freaked at BLM, but got over that. I always kept in mind that "she" could be a false flag. But after those comments OT, and Nothing from admin?
Hey! my dear friends or soon-to-be's, JtC could use the donations to keep this site functioning for those of us who can still see the life preserver or flotsam in the water.
Uh, when she ran last time
Wasn't there a BFD made about a grandfather who was Jewish?
Meddle not in the affairs of Dragons - For thou art crunchy and good with ketchup
I avoid GOS
I will occasionally type in my browser and it pops up. I have not been there for anything (including by accident) for a week? I keep typing the address because I used to read the many different diaries. Now? It makes me angry and bitter when I head there. I metaphorically fell out of my chair when I saw a full throated defense of the TPP as a diary and the number of people who agreed with it and knew my days being comfortable there were numbered. It seems to me that the GOS has been revealed to be a community for what would be socially moderate conservatives and not progressives let alone liberals. As if economic issues are completely divorced from social issues, never the twain shall meet and woe betide anyone who approaches social injustice from the position of the economic. It is difficult to avoid it as I have lurked there for as long as I can recall (at least a decade?) and it is habit.
Socially moderate conservatives is spot on
That is exactly what they are, and what is Hillary is - although I'd call Hillary a socially moderate neocon or neolib - not much difference to choose from between the two.
The blindness to corruption is amazing
It's obvious how rigged these primaries are and yet that's ok. Voters don't count because corrupt oligarchs are more important.
Beware the bullshit factories.
Cognitive dissonance...
They are discussing the possibility that Trump is briefed regarding classified information. They fantasize about how he reveals classified information at a press conference and then:
One of the fucking Democratic candidates is indeed facing possibility of indictment for mishandling classified information and they are having a circle-jerk pretending Trump is in the same situation. Damn the Dem party has lost it's way as the ship was boarded by imbeciles with no principles other than to win at all cost.
Edit: To clear up, I'm referring to a Hillary circle-jerk I saw at TOP today.
There is nothing which I dread so much as a division of the republic into two great parties.. This...is to be dreaded as the greatest political evil under our Constitution.--John Adams
Good God, I gasped loud enough to scare the cat
when reading this one. The desperation is just stunning. They have become the Tea Party.
Only a fool lets someone else tell him who his enemy is. Assata Shakur
ship of fools
Thus making it a veritable ship of fools:
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I won't slave for beggar's pay
Likewise gold and jewels
But I would slave to learn the way
To sink your ship of fools
-- Jerry Garcia/Robert Hunter
"US govt/military = bad. Russian govt/military = bad. Any politician wanting power = bad. Anyone wielding power = bad." --Shahryar
"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides
Hillary circle-jerk at TOP
You're going to have to start clarifying which Hillary circle-jerk at TOP you're talking about, as there are quite a few of those there now.
If you're talking about this one, I tried to read it, I truly did try.....
...... but I didn't make it to the Tip Jar!
I just can't stomach the lies and the lack of critical thinking; much less to be called a "troll" because of my insistence on using such things on the track record and utterances of HRC. (From the latter may Cat deliver our poor nation!)
"US govt/military = bad. Russian govt/military = bad. Any politician wanting power = bad. Anyone wielding power = bad." --Shahryar
"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides
So did they ban you, or did you just post and bail and decide
you were done?
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Not banned.
Yet. Think I will follow the guide of others and wait for the inevitable downfall of Hillary to return.
Time out is my current status. I feel so ashamed...
Heh. I used to avoid time outs by leaving after two comments
were flagged, since the auto TO hits after three in 24 hours. Can't do that now. I'm sure TOs are in my future. When they hit, I'm going to complain that if they don't want me to have so many comments flagged, I need to know when comments are being flagged. Another stupid modification, IMHO, that makes it easier for bullying cowardly flaggers to work behind the scenes.
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I went to the garbage dump. Can you believe it? Garbage there!
I'd spent a bit of my youth there, before it turned into a dump. It used to be a nice field where we'd play ball, run around, sometimes have a picnic. Then it became a place where people dumped their trash. It's been that way for awhile. Occasionally I think I'll go down and maybe sit on the green grass except there isn't any green grass there now. It's all....garbage. It stinks too. Tomorrow I'll try to remember it's not a beautiful field anymore. I'll try to remember it's a garbage dump.
Well said.
Twain Disciple