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We sort of tapped a keg last night. Hubby had to turn in a rental car at the Asheville airport so we decided to stop at the Sierra Nevada brewery and have dinner at their restaurant. It is an amazing place! Driving into the facility felt like we were driving to a fancy estate with all sorts of landscaping and copper artwork along the way. Sierra Nevada is a privately held company originally out of California. The restaurant is very large for restaurants in this area and it was full. We had dinner and a beer. I had the stout and hubby had an English ale.
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The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe. If you try it, you will be lonely often, and sometimes frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself. - Friedrich Nietzsche -
about how Asheville got Sierra Nevada to locate there was also pretty amazing if it is true. Apparently Sierra Nevada wanted to build an east coast plant and was looking at some place in Tennessee. Asheville had tried to get them to locate near there, but Sierra Nevada originally said that they wanted to be forty miles from the nearest brewery. Since there are many micro breweries in Asheville and New Belgium is supposedly going to build a plant there soon, plus Oscar Blues already has a brewery in Brevard only 20 miles away, so Sierra Nevada had declined to even consider Asheville. The week that Sierra Nevada was going to make their decision on a site, a large group of the Asheville micro brewers flew out to California to lobby for Asheville. Their lobbying effort was rewarded with Sierra Nevada deciding against the Tennessee site and for coming to Asheville. Their complex they built just south of Asheville in Mills River is huge and very beautiful. They have plenty of land for expansions and have their own water system on the site. To even tour the plant you have to book a reservation well in advance.
My husband and his buddies like Highland beers too.
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in the day, back in that little California burg, I used to hang with the founder of Sierra Nevada, among a group of other boys and girls looking to do hippie-commie good in our little corner of the world.
There were those who would work with prisoners. Those who would staff a feminist women's health center. Those who would publish a radical newspaper. Those who'd set up a community radio station. Who would track police abuses. Who would attempt to infiltrate the city council and the school board. Set up a bus system. Establish a recycling center. Work a peace and justice center. Found a hippie-trail travel-book publishing company. Etc. Etc. And Ken, he'd always say, "I'm going to brew really good beer." Great, the rest of us thought. We'll all drink really good beer, while we're doing all these other things.
Now, all these endeavors met with at least a modest form of success. But the only one that really took off, that was Sierra Nevada.
What is a moral of this story? That when it gets right down to it, Americans, they really like their beer. : /
What a great morning. Birds are tweeting out my window, the sun is shining, and it is a balmy 62 outside already. I had my three grandsons over for dinner Wed. evening, and last night, the baby graduated from HS. There were 440 kids in his graduating class, and it was just one of three high schools in our community. Leaving to go up north to the lake house for a week on Sunday and told my boss yesterday that I was taking the summer off except for when he absolutely needed me. Thank you technology for allowing me to work anywhere.
Feeling lucky, happy and proud. What a glorious day. Wishing all of you the very same.
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Have a nice vacation, Nancy. That was an interesting photo from last night.
Asheville was my favorite NC city (outside of little Sapphire, where our camp was located).
Mollie
"Every time I lose a dog, he takes a piece of my heart. Every new dog gifts me with a piece of his. Someday, my heart will be total dog, and maybe then I will be just as generous, loving, and forgiving."--Author Unknown
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Sheeple that watch Fox news and MSNBC news who believe Obama is a liberal and the U.S. is a democracy, or
long time self proclaimed activists dating back to the sixties who will vote for Hillary Clinton.
"a report published by the Associated Press yesterday reports that the Pentagon has been actively considering the use of nuclear missiles against military targets inside Russia, in response to what it alleges are violations of the 1987 Intermediate-range Nuclear Forces (INF) treaty. Russia denies US claims that it has violated the INF by flight-testing ground-launched cruise missiles with a prohibited range."
and that's part of what drives me. I fully recognize and focus on the fact that we only have so many days on earth.
Each of us. We can't waste time beating our heads against the wall. Which is why I focus more on major systemic problems
and changes, i.e., revolution, rather than electing the next whatever. I see these quotes from one hundred, two hundred, a
thousand fucking years ago saying the same thing we're saying today and that drives me crazy. I think we're not learning
from our mistakes, we're just doing the same thing over and over and over. Ya, that does hurt my spirit a bit I guess but
that's why I say what I say, to tell people we've been there done that, let's try something else.
I think it's because we are mortal and make babies over and over for new generations, who all have to learn things from scratch in each generation and a lifetime is not enough to come up with the "final answers". Banal, but basically, I think that's it. Heh, complain with God, he is to blame for all of that, his human design is just so flawed ...
Forgive me for just kidding. What else can we do but resort to black humor?
a particularly patient person. I see these ideas about building a new political party and starting at the bottom,
electing dog catchers, school board members, city council, etc., Get them in the system and work your way up. Then I look
at the history of third parties in this country and wonder how the hell long that will take. It's never worked before either.
Check out the number of successful third party candidates at the national level in the last two hundred years. It's nothing.
You can practically count them on one hand. I think if we started now, which we keep saying year after year, decade after
decade, we might be able to get one or two candidates into Congress in the next 20-30 years. By then the crazies at the top
will probably have us at Planet of the Apes mode.
I have to keep advocating for it now, not later. I'll be dead later.
for me to believe in that approach to be successful either. It's just the only way that is supposedly peaceful, non-violent and legal.
Has anyone ever done historical research, when a non-violent and peaceful and legal movement has brought a morally criminal and legally "illegal" and a violent "non-violent" worldwide networked regime of corporate oligarchs to its knees? They have you in the straight jacket with their demands to be "legal" and 'non-violent", even when they are very violent and do very illegal stuff to their citizens.
I feel that the only way a third party could initiate change is, if it draws so many people from the Democratic Party as it is right now away, that the third party becomes the new second party and the Democratic Party is marginalized to become the Third Party. At least that's the only thing I can imagine as being successful, as long as the whole electoral college is not completely discarded. If I were a political science whiz kid, I would study comparative electoral systems and just throw what you have in the dumpster. It doesn't work, is not democratic and actually outright awful.
off the Dem Party beaten path. Problem with MB is look what he's defending. I had a talk with someone about everyone
finding out the deal in their own time. Some of us come to understand reality quicker than others. Well, how come DK is
filled with supposed activists from the 60's that are now full time partisan establishment imperialist capitalist Democrats who
fight tooth and nail for the establishment imperialist capitalist Democratic party? They're sure taking a long time to figure it out.
MB was a journalist (mainstream print media and alternative print media and as a blogger at dailykos) his whole life to make a living. (as far as I understood this from his comments about himself) There are adjustments you have to make to keep a job. I doubt very much that he hasn't understood realities, but I believe he has experienced enough examples of "betrayals" by "revolutionary people" to buy into anyone, who shouts out for one. I think it's the only option to be an activist to go his route for people, who have to survive on their salaries they get for writing for any establishment. He had risked much more than his own job, when he was younger. So as long as oneself hasn't risked more, I would be careful to call someone "supposed activist". He certainly has "figured it out", but probably made a conscious decision about how to do his part as an activist. I just think he is a realist about how one can "fight tooth and nails against the establishment imperialist capitalist Democratic Party". I wouldn't put him down for that. As long as one hasn't a better way at least. That being said, of course, you might know him and his motives better. I just don't like the unnecessary tensions between people, who all want system changes to happen. It's counterproductive, imo.
In the end everybody is just writing and eventually participating in a demonstration that doesn't change much. We all whine and shout and get angry and talk and then some more talk and everyone tries to do his part, like you and Joe and everyone else.
(If I can find it, I'll likely have a comment about one of his diaries that I was in some disagreement with, when I can locate it.)
Hey, I have had absolutely no dealings with him--meaning direct exchanges of comments/replies--but my observation from reading some of his diaries, is that he is a partisan Democrat, when all is said and done.
Which, last time I checked, is no crime.
So, I would fully expect that he would recommend working 'within the Party,' starting at the local level, to change it.
No news flash there.
Also, I would strongly defend MB's right to feel that way (if my reading is correct).
However, like Al, I simply disagree with that tactic/strategy.
In addition, my comments relating to what I've seen MB write are regarding his opinions on policy, as best as I can interpret his intended message(s).
He writes for a living, so I feel that he puts himself out there, and I, or anyone, has the right to express honest disagreement with his arguments/pronouncements, so long as it's done in a civil manner.
At Daily Kos, or at any blog.
Namaste.
Mollie
"Every time I lose a dog, he takes a piece of my heart. Every new dog gifts me with a piece of his. Someday, my heart will be total dog, and maybe then I will be just as generous, loving, and forgiving."--Author Unknown
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I know I can't believe in what he thinks the strategy should be. Wouldn't have the patience to do what he advocates. And I know I wouldn't want to be lectured in public, but of course accept his opinion as much as anyone else's to be voiced and listened to.
that "of course, accept his opinion as much as anyone else's to be voiced and listened to."
Basically, that's all that I was trying to say, as well.
Have a good evening, Mimi. And please, read some Chris Hedges for me, while you're at it!
[I trust his opinion above most others.]
Mollie
"Every time I lose a dog, he takes a piece of my heart. Every new dog gifts me with a piece of his. Someday, my heart will be total dog, and maybe then I will be just as generous, loving, and forgiving."--Author Unknown
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grass root politics and it was a big waste of time. Many low level Democrat's billed as progressive liberals won but once in office we're almost more corrupt then the Republican's. There is big money involved even it your running for dogcatcher.Nobody but a Democrat can win in Portland so the bent greedy pols just slap a D after there names and talk like a liberal. Look at our mayor. He campaigned on the evils of gentrification. Just like Obama he immediately started demolishing, developing and gentrifying the city. The police here are racist pigs and he refuses to do anything about them even though the DoJ has ordered the Portland's police to be monitored by an outside judge.
Can you imagine VW makes now a new model to replace the old VW bus ... and they won't export that one to the US?
I mean, it's too expensive for me anyhow, but it would be nice to have a "fan" bus with solar on the roof...of course they are not that advanced and smart to invest in that.
VW Camping Bus.
This one they call "Hotel California", but you just can't buy it in California I think. Hotel California
I get in the mood to take a vacation trip in my mind with your music pieces...the car is missing, but the imagination is all there.
Back in the early 1970's my first husband and I had a VW camper with the pop top made by Westfalia. It was a great way for two people to camp comfortably and I loved it. Unfortunately, he wanted a sports car so it was sold. VW no longer makes either the bus nor the camper, but I still see quite a few old ones driving around here in western NC. Despite their lack of power (climbing steep grades was on a wing and a prayer), I would love to find one in good shape for a decent price. Nowadays finding a VW camper in any shape comes with a very high price.
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I just am amazed that VW is so stupid to not recognize that they might have a market here in the US for a camping bus model. I guess they always make things too fancy and expensive. Germans are so spoiled when it comes to car technology, some times they get on my nerves with that. I am always amused when foreigners think they have to buy a Mercedes. What a stupidity. VW shoud just make a stripped down Camping Bus version. Which US brand makes similar camping buses? All I want is that it doesn't brake down for a long time and I can sleep in a dry bed.
are made as after market add ons. In other words, a camping outfitter buys a van and then adds on the camping gear.
I am not aware of any auto manufacturer who actually makes camping buses or vans.
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Have you ever tapped the keg early?
And then everybody is fashionably late.
The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe. If you try it, you will be lonely often, and sometimes frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself. - Friedrich Nietzsche -
Good Morning Tim and crew!
We sort of tapped a keg last night. Hubby had to turn in a rental car at the Asheville airport so we decided to stop at the Sierra Nevada brewery and have dinner at their restaurant. It is an amazing place! Driving into the facility felt like we were driving to a fancy estate with all sorts of landscaping and copper artwork along the way. Sierra Nevada is a privately held company originally out of California. The restaurant is very large for restaurants in this area and it was full. We had dinner and a beer. I had the stout and hubby had an English ale.
Do I hear the sound of guillotines being constructed?
“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~ President John F. Kennedy
It's Open!
Asheville is beer city USA. The Sierra Nevada brewery was planned then postponed. Stout is a fine choice. I am partial to Highland Brewing. French Broad makes a nice session Kolsch. When I am in Asheville, I like to stop @ Barley's
The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe. If you try it, you will be lonely often, and sometimes frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself. - Friedrich Nietzsche -
The story I heard
about how Asheville got Sierra Nevada to locate there was also pretty amazing if it is true. Apparently Sierra Nevada wanted to build an east coast plant and was looking at some place in Tennessee. Asheville had tried to get them to locate near there, but Sierra Nevada originally said that they wanted to be forty miles from the nearest brewery. Since there are many micro breweries in Asheville and New Belgium is supposedly going to build a plant there soon, plus Oscar Blues already has a brewery in Brevard only 20 miles away, so Sierra Nevada had declined to even consider Asheville. The week that Sierra Nevada was going to make their decision on a site, a large group of the Asheville micro brewers flew out to California to lobby for Asheville. Their lobbying effort was rewarded with Sierra Nevada deciding against the Tennessee site and for coming to Asheville. Their complex they built just south of Asheville in Mills River is huge and very beautiful. They have plenty of land for expansions and have their own water system on the site. To even tour the plant you have to book a reservation well in advance.
My husband and his buddies like Highland beers too.
Do I hear the sound of guillotines being constructed?
“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~ President John F. Kennedy
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in the day, back in that little California burg, I used to hang with the founder of Sierra Nevada, among a group of other boys and girls looking to do hippie-commie good in our little corner of the world.
There were those who would work with prisoners. Those who would staff a feminist women's health center. Those who would publish a radical newspaper. Those who'd set up a community radio station. Who would track police abuses. Who would attempt to infiltrate the city council and the school board. Set up a bus system. Establish a recycling center. Work a peace and justice center. Found a hippie-trail travel-book publishing company. Etc. Etc. And Ken, he'd always say, "I'm going to brew really good beer." Great, the rest of us thought. We'll all drink really good beer, while we're doing all these other things.
Now, all these endeavors met with at least a modest form of success. But the only one that really took off, that was Sierra Nevada.
What is a moral of this story? That when it gets right down to it, Americans, they really like their beer. : /
Good morning Tim and crew
What a great morning. Birds are tweeting out my window, the sun is shining, and it is a balmy 62 outside already. I had my three grandsons over for dinner Wed. evening, and last night, the baby graduated from HS. There were 440 kids in his graduating class, and it was just one of three high schools in our community. Leaving to go up north to the lake house for a week on Sunday and told my boss yesterday that I was taking the summer off except for when he absolutely needed me. Thank you technology for allowing me to work anywhere.
Feeling lucky, happy and proud. What a glorious day. Wishing all of you the very same.
"Religion is what keeps the poor from murdering the rich."--Napoleon
Good Morning, dk
Today is your day! I hope you enjoy your summer off.
If things hold up on the home front, I will be going on vacation next week too.
Do I hear the sound of guillotines being constructed?
“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~ President John F. Kennedy
Ditto! Have a nice summer, DK, at your lovely
lakefront property.
Have a nice vacation, Nancy. That was an interesting photo from last night.
Asheville was my favorite NC city (outside of little Sapphire, where our camp was located).
Mollie
"Every time I lose a dog, he takes a piece of my heart. Every new dog gifts me with a piece of his. Someday, my heart will be total dog, and maybe then I will be just as generous, loving, and forgiving."--Author Unknown
Everyone thinks they have the best dog, and none of them are wrong.
Yeah!
The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe. If you try it, you will be lonely often, and sometimes frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself. - Friedrich Nietzsche -
I wonder what's worse.
Sheeple that watch Fox news and MSNBC news who believe Obama is a liberal and the U.S. is a democracy, or
long time self proclaimed activists dating back to the sixties who will vote for Hillary Clinton.
Things like this are why I take the hard line almost all the
time.
They're nuts, we have to stop them.
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_UNITED_STATES_RUSSIA_NUCLEAR_T...
Big Al, it's never known what triggers the revolution,
as Chris Hedges said so correctly in his Salon interview.
May be this story from Spain will lift up your spirit a bit. Nobody had expected that success
From Occupying Banks to City Hall: Meet Barcelona’s New Mayor Ada Colau Can't find yet the video on youtube. It's still too early. Check it out. She will work only with leftist parties. That's reason to be hopeful.
Actually my spirit is fine
and that's part of what drives me. I fully recognize and focus on the fact that we only have so many days on earth.
Each of us. We can't waste time beating our heads against the wall. Which is why I focus more on major systemic problems
and changes, i.e., revolution, rather than electing the next whatever. I see these quotes from one hundred, two hundred, a
thousand fucking years ago saying the same thing we're saying today and that drives me crazy. I think we're not learning
from our mistakes, we're just doing the same thing over and over and over. Ya, that does hurt my spirit a bit I guess but
that's why I say what I say, to tell people we've been there done that, let's try something else.
"With every mistake"
This song is so right on.
I think we are not learning ... do the same things over and over
I think it's because we are mortal and make babies over and over for new generations, who all have to learn things from scratch in each generation and a lifetime is not enough to come up with the "final answers". Banal, but basically, I think that's it. Heh, complain with God, he is to blame for all of that, his human design is just so flawed ...
Forgive me for just kidding. What else can we do but resort to black humor?
I believe in the old saying,
You got to laugh to keep from crying.
Sometimes I think I have to be more patient. I'm not
a particularly patient person. I see these ideas about building a new political party and starting at the bottom,
electing dog catchers, school board members, city council, etc., Get them in the system and work your way up. Then I look
at the history of third parties in this country and wonder how the hell long that will take. It's never worked before either.
Check out the number of successful third party candidates at the national level in the last two hundred years. It's nothing.
You can practically count them on one hand. I think if we started now, which we keep saying year after year, decade after
decade, we might be able to get one or two candidates into Congress in the next 20-30 years. By then the crazies at the top
will probably have us at Planet of the Apes mode.
I have to keep advocating for it now, not later. I'll be dead later.
that's what Meteor Blades is preaching ... it's very hard
for me to believe in that approach to be successful either. It's just the only way that is supposedly peaceful, non-violent and legal.
Has anyone ever done historical research, when a non-violent and peaceful and legal movement has brought a morally criminal and legally "illegal" and a violent "non-violent" worldwide networked regime of corporate oligarchs to its knees? They have you in the straight jacket with their demands to be "legal" and 'non-violent", even when they are very violent and do very illegal stuff to their citizens.
I feel that the only way a third party could initiate change is, if it draws so many people from the Democratic Party as it is right now away, that the third party becomes the new second party and the Democratic Party is marginalized to become the Third Party. At least that's the only thing I can imagine as being successful, as long as the whole electoral college is not completely discarded. If I were a political science whiz kid, I would study comparative electoral systems and just throw what you have in the dumpster. It doesn't work, is not democratic and actually outright awful.
Ya, I've received that MB lecture when I tried to veer
off the Dem Party beaten path. Problem with MB is look what he's defending. I had a talk with someone about everyone
finding out the deal in their own time. Some of us come to understand reality quicker than others. Well, how come DK is
filled with supposed activists from the 60's that are now full time partisan establishment imperialist capitalist Democrats who
fight tooth and nail for the establishment imperialist capitalist Democratic party? They're sure taking a long time to figure it out.
I think and to be fair, everyone needs to make a living,
MB was a journalist (mainstream print media and alternative print media and as a blogger at dailykos) his whole life to make a living. (as far as I understood this from his comments about himself) There are adjustments you have to make to keep a job. I doubt very much that he hasn't understood realities, but I believe he has experienced enough examples of "betrayals" by "revolutionary people" to buy into anyone, who shouts out for one. I think it's the only option to be an activist to go his route for people, who have to survive on their salaries they get for writing for any establishment. He had risked much more than his own job, when he was younger. So as long as oneself hasn't risked more, I would be careful to call someone "supposed activist". He certainly has "figured it out", but probably made a conscious decision about how to do his part as an activist. I just think he is a realist about how one can "fight tooth and nails against the establishment imperialist capitalist Democratic Party". I wouldn't put him down for that. As long as one hasn't a better way at least. That being said, of course, you might know him and his motives better. I just don't like the unnecessary tensions between people, who all want system changes to happen. It's counterproductive, imo.
In the end everybody is just writing and eventually participating in a demonstration that doesn't change much. We all whine and shout and get angry and talk and then some more talk and everyone tries to do his part, like you and Joe and everyone else.
Now I need the OPOL peace sign ...
I've not been the recipient of 'the lecture,'
but I've sure seen it more than once.
(If I can find it, I'll likely have a comment about one of his diaries that I was in some disagreement with, when I can locate it.)
Hey, I have had absolutely no dealings with him--meaning direct exchanges of comments/replies--but my observation from reading some of his diaries, is that he is a partisan Democrat, when all is said and done.
Which, last time I checked, is no crime.
So, I would fully expect that he would recommend working 'within the Party,' starting at the local level, to change it.
No news flash there.
Also, I would strongly defend MB's right to feel that way (if my reading is correct).
However, like Al, I simply disagree with that tactic/strategy.
In addition, my comments relating to what I've seen MB write are regarding his opinions on policy, as best as I can interpret his intended message(s).
He writes for a living, so I feel that he puts himself out there, and I, or anyone, has the right to express honest disagreement with his arguments/pronouncements, so long as it's done in a civil manner.
At Daily Kos, or at any blog.
Namaste.
Mollie
"Every time I lose a dog, he takes a piece of my heart. Every new dog gifts me with a piece of his. Someday, my heart will be total dog, and maybe then I will be just as generous, loving, and forgiving."--Author Unknown
Everyone thinks they have the best dog, and none of them are wrong.
well said and I agree with most
I know I can't believe in what he thinks the strategy should be. Wouldn't have the patience to do what he advocates. And I know I wouldn't want to be lectured in public, but of course accept his opinion as much as anyone else's to be voiced and listened to.
Couldn't have said it better,
that "of course, accept his opinion as much as anyone else's to be voiced and listened to."
Basically, that's all that I was trying to say, as well.
Have a good evening, Mimi. And please, read some Chris Hedges for me, while you're at it!
[I trust his opinion above most others.]
Mollie
"Every time I lose a dog, he takes a piece of my heart. Every new dog gifts me with a piece of his. Someday, my heart will be total dog, and maybe then I will be just as generous, loving, and forgiving."--Author Unknown
Everyone thinks they have the best dog, and none of them are wrong.
We tried local
grass root politics and it was a big waste of time. Many low level Democrat's billed as progressive liberals won but once in office we're almost more corrupt then the Republican's. There is big money involved even it your running for dogcatcher.Nobody but a Democrat can win in Portland so the bent greedy pols just slap a D after there names and talk like a liberal. Look at our mayor. He campaigned on the evils of gentrification. Just like Obama he immediately started demolishing, developing and gentrifying the city. The police here are racist pigs and he refuses to do anything about them even though the DoJ has ordered the Portland's police to be monitored by an outside judge.
Good Morning, Tim and crew, I want that VW bus ...
Can you imagine VW makes now a new model to replace the old VW bus ... and they won't export that one to the US?
I mean, it's too expensive for me anyhow, but it would be nice to have a "fan" bus with solar on the roof...of course they are not that advanced and smart to invest in that.
VW Camping Bus.
This one they call "Hotel California", but you just can't buy it in California I think.
Hotel California
I get in the mood to take a vacation trip in my mind with your music pieces...the car is missing, but the imagination is all there.
VW Camper
Back in the early 1970's my first husband and I had a VW camper with the pop top made by Westfalia. It was a great way for two people to camp comfortably and I loved it. Unfortunately, he wanted a sports car so it was sold. VW no longer makes either the bus nor the camper, but I still see quite a few old ones driving around here in western NC. Despite their lack of power (climbing steep grades was on a wing and a prayer), I would love to find one in good shape for a decent price. Nowadays finding a VW camper in any shape comes with a very high price.
Do I hear the sound of guillotines being constructed?
“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~ President John F. Kennedy
I won't have that money, so I better forget about it
I just am amazed that VW is so stupid to not recognize that they might have a market here in the US for a camping bus model. I guess they always make things too fancy and expensive. Germans are so spoiled when it comes to car technology, some times they get on my nerves with that. I am always amused when foreigners think they have to buy a Mercedes. What a stupidity. VW shoud just make a stripped down Camping Bus version. Which US brand makes similar camping buses? All I want is that it doesn't brake down for a long time and I can sleep in a dry bed.
I think all US campers
are made as after market add ons. In other words, a camping outfitter buys a van and then adds on the camping gear.
I am not aware of any auto manufacturer who actually makes camping buses or vans.
Do I hear the sound of guillotines being constructed?
“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~ President John F. Kennedy