his gullible working class voters once the Repub establishment whispers in his ear that which he loves above all else -- "Personal Profit"?

Is Clinton worse than Trump? Probably but not by much. They are both Neo-liberal scum. Bernie or Green for me thanks.

...but that doesn't mean I'll melt back into the complacency after the inauguration. No, that is the day the REAL work begins, holding MY Party responsible for its actions at every opportunity and for every betrayal. "I told you so" will be my go-to phrase at the GOS. As far as I know you can't be banned for being prescient. Yet.

The truth is that we're fucked no matter what; it's just a matter of how much and how hard. I can stand four years of being fucked by a sellout Clinton presidency. I can't abide being fucked for another generation by an ultra-Right Wing Supreme Court. And IMHO, the only way to root out the Clinton Neocon Neoliberal Billionaire Boot Licker wing from MY Party is to not only allow them to fail, but to predict their failure before every policy proposal is implemented (because we already know they will fail) and to mercilessly shout it from the rooftops when they do ultimately fail. I have no doubt that two years of Clinton II failure will bring progressive primary challengers out of the woodwork. Why? Because "But, Congress!" won't be a viable excuse for the President who claimed she "Get's stuff done" during the campaign...

So, in conclusion, we're right back to where we were four years ago; voting for the lesser of two evils. Yes, it sucks ass big time, but please don't lose your head over it. A president Rmoney or McPalin would have been orders of magnitude worse by any measure, just as a Trump presidency would be...

like Arnold Schwarzenegger was in California as governor, but the damage will be far reaching and very long lasting. We're still reeling from the damage the idiot George W. Bush caused. Years later, California is still suffering the fallout from electing Arnold.

But it would be nice to lower the influence of the globalists and neocons and traders and the army of international lobbyists in DC. But this assumes Trump means what he's saying and also it assumes he could get that done.

Let's start talking this shit once everything is settled. Until then, all this is is an exercise in futility, drama, and needless pearl clutching. I intend to vote Bernie in my primary on June 7th. Until then, the only think I know for certain is that I will not vote for hrc if she is the nominee. Trump, Green, Libertarian, Jackasses of America, Loosers of the US, I don't really care who else is running if Bernie is not the nominee and don't have to think of it until after the nominee has been selected at the end of JULY!

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I believe that our rulers could live with either Hillary Clinton or Donald Trump, but Trump offers them a bonus: the promotion of greater divisions among the working class, and the potential for violent white supremacist gangs to be used against any mass movement with explicit multi-racial and pro-working class (socialist) aims that police power is unable to suppress (as was done to Occupy Wall Street). In his hostility to Mexican immigration, Trump also lines up with the current neo-fascist movements in Europe that attack immigrants. Furthermore, as the U.S. acts militarily as the world’s bully against smaller and weaker countries, what better leader than a consummate bully like Donald Trump!

Divide and rule tactics (coupled with judicious use of repression) have been employed by elites to rule over much larger numbers of subjects since the Roman Empire. In America, “race” has been the most prominent divisive category with African Americans as the primary targets, from slavery until today. Mexicans in the Southwest, immigrant and citizen, also suffer from racism, and Donald Trump’s anti-Mexican immigrant diatribes are of a piece with this history. Racism has thus been the most frequent tool of modern ruling classes whose power is threatened by mass working-class movements, though clearly not the only one. Our corporate media highlight any differences that might be useful in preventing people from uniting in their common interests (religion, native born vs. immigrant, gender, “culture” and “identity politics,” sexual preference, young/old). The only cleavage almost never mentioned is social class.

The constant drumbeat of this divisive ideology, aimed at that very large class of people forced to sell their labor for wages paid by capitalists, has been remarkably successful in enriching the few at the expense of the many. It also distracts the masses and obscures the deepest, most widespread and fundamental division separating people today: that between the capitalist class of owners in control of business and the state, and the billions of the world’s people who must live by their labor – if they can find work at all!