I could write the script. He could call her the worst Secretary of State ever and go into the dead diplomats in Benghazi, the brutal war in Libya tearing the place to hell-- her project, her lying about coming under fire, and the Clinton Foundation pay to buy arms. Her response would be to have the deer-in-the-headlights look and then claim that his statement was unfair. His point would come across loudly and clearly, Hillary is not competent in foreign affairs and cannot be relied on to defend this country.

Hillary -- You're fired.

the fact that Sanders IS staying in until the convention. We should all be assuming it, that's what the man says he's going to do.

In point of this discussion, I simply stated that "Bernie on the Greens ticket" would be far more effective and make far more sense than a damn "boycott" of the vote.

I will not vote for HRC under any circumstances. I will not give up on Bernie. I keep seeing HRC and Bush hugging at Nancy Reagan's funeral. That's all it takes for me. (maybe not all it takes, but it is a factor)

I will not be feared, guilted, blamed, scotused, threatened with doom & disaster, to vote for Clinton.

IMHO, voting "for" Clinton IS doom and disaster in multiple ways, starting with the f'n warmongering, probable wars on multiple fronts. We SO do NOT need that at this moment in time!!! Because she is so much of a Rethuglican conservative, I do not for one second believe there would be any difference between her choices for SCOTUS and those a Rethug might choose. Six of one, half a dozen of another. I do not see any difference between Hillary and a Rethuglican. I've wondered for many years why she didn't simply change to R and put us out of our misery.

To repeat myself for the umpteenth time: There are NO circumstances under which I will vote for Hillary! None! [I will never, ever vote for Rethuglicans; that's a given.] I took great umbrage with Madeleine Albright's "there's a special place in hell reserved for women who don't support other women." How dare she forget that policies and political platforms a candidate stands for matter to us little peons because it affects our lives in ways great and small? Whether candidates are male or female, I take these things very seriously before I consider voting for anyone. Issues before gender!

If Bernie does not win the nomination so I can fill in the oval next to his name, I will write in his name or leave the presidential category blank and vote for the down-ticket Dems. [There's only an outside chance I'll vote for Greens. Leaving the prez category blank says more than voting for a third party. (IMHO, of course; YMMV, and I'll respect that choice.)]

I would rather this country be leaderless than have Hillary or the Rethugs in office. Or, if others select one of the two worst choices (Hillary or whichever Rethug), perhaps that would cure the populace of electing these totally unsuitable morons as president. (First there was W; now ...? Who will the low-information voters pick from unsuitable candidates this time? We seriously need a better educational system that teaches people how to think analytically.) This country does not need my vote to continue going downhill at an accelerated rate because the trail is greased.

Great question and hang-up line!

I mean that being a person of color will not be dangerous in the US ? And do you believe that this is actually dependent on who is in the White House? Don't you think the endangerment of Afro-Americans in the US is a matter of your laws rather than the color of the skin or the color of the ideology that the occupant of the White House has? (and I mean only the occupant in the White House, not the occupants of the HOUSE or SCOTUS).

I think there might be some Afro-American Bernie supporters who will simply not vote at all, if he is not the nominee and it is imo also unfair to blame them then for "enabling" a Republican to become President. They prepare for becoming more involved in any kind of outside activism that pushes for Sanders agenda.

It seems to me that this kind of straight-jacket that is pulled over the American voters is really something that has to end. It's deeply undemocratic, unfair and manipulative, in my opinion. There should not be any blaming of anybody going on for the vote they cast.

helping people of color? The Democratic politico's local and state in Baltimore, Maryland and Ferguson Missouri enabled the killer cops in every way. My being white and 'privileged' isn't the issue in this case. Both the Obama and Clinton administration's policies and agenda have hurt and are dangerous to people of color both here in the US and globally. Why stand with the perpetrators of crimes against people of color.

It will continue to be dangerous to be a person of color in the US until we get some decent representation that implements justice, economic and criminal. Income disparity? There are prisons for profit the death penalty, the inequality of privatized education and the out of control militarized cops. Black lives do not matter to the Democrat's anymore then the Republicans. If they did we wouldn't have the poverty level or the largest population of incarcerated people.

It's not just white privileged people that are instigating racist policy look at Obama's administration . Chock full of white and black Democratic pols who have continued to enact dangerous racist policies that make it a crime to be black or poor. Perhaps you have read way too many of DEO's dairy's that heap blame on everyone but the people white and of color who are working to stop the duopoly that actively promotes a racist, sexist, classist unjust and cruel society.

We have had a Democrat in the White House for 8 years and all the things you describe are still happening. Racism, as a problem, doesn't seem to be affected by which party holds power. It seems to be outside of politics. Police are still killing black youths with immunity. I'm sure you read recently about the policeman who was convicted, not of murder but of manslaughter, who has now gotten his sentence reduced to community service! I can't see that having a Democratic President protected Akai Gurley. And I don't see the Democratic President doing anything about these tragedies.

darker brown people here in the USA and world wide by both Bill and Hillary's policies and actions.
Yes I said 'darker brown' rather than black because. (and here is an actual fact rather than opinion)
We are ALL born of the ancestors of the Sans people who are rather dark skinned due to the environment they live in.
The Simple FACT is there is no black or white, we are all shades of brown.
That's right, you are NOT white, you're passing, you're just a light skinned nigga, like the rest of us.
While you may feel obliged to vote for a woman who cackles in glee over the death of another lighter skinned San's descendent, This light skinned nigga don't.

although I held it for years.

But its like giving your one kid a cookie because even though they deliberately broke your computer, at least they didn't deliberately wreck your car like the other one. You don't reward bad behavior even if its less bad than some other behavior somewhere.

They will not change if they keep getting rewarded for simply being slightly less evil than some other person.

We are out of time for this nonsense and I am withdrawing my consent, measly as it is.

Working for actual progressives down-ticket could make a difference and is certainly a good goal for all of us. We need to start from the ground up, and a Republican president couldn't do all that much damage if we had a progressive congress. But I won't vote for Clinton because she's not a Progressive and she's a really horrible candidate.

You have every right to your viewpoint, but no offense, don't tell me what I should do. They are not my team, as they've made abundantly clear and I feel more good would be done by refusing to support a corrupt, untrustworthy candidate. I'm a grown woman, I've been "taking one for the team" for 25 years of voting, and things have gotten steadily worse in that time. Its not the answer for me.

'my opinion' would have been accurate.
and truthful.
It is NOT a fact she is better, it is only YOUR opinion.

and that's giving her a little more credit than she deserves.

Republicans are after your wallet and if they kill you, oh well. Democrats are after your money, will make a minimal effort to not kill you and maybe even let you keep your empty wallet.....but if you happen to die after that minimal effort then, from them too, oh well and they might as well keep your wallet because you're dead.

Now where do we find enough progressives to change the makeup of Congress? (Not a lot of them in my neck of the woods.)

As long as the 1% are in control, they will treat everybody else like shit. So that is what we need to change.