09/28 Open Thread - International Day for Universal Access to Information
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~~ information - Public Domain
"Information wants to be free" - Stewart Brand
The truth shall set you free - trad.
Information may want to be free, but the USA wants it to be secret, most secret or top secret. We classify everything we can and lie about much of the rest. There are probably some folk or rock songs I could play appropriate to this topic but they probably all contain at least one swear word and WON'T SOMEBODY THINK OF THE CHILDREN! Ah the hell with it.
On this day in 1066, William the Bastard, aka William the Conqueror, Duke of Normandy, bearing the banner "gules two lions passant guardant", landed on the southeast coast of England at Pevensey Bay and used some old Roman Ruins at the site to set up a fortification. It doesn't get very interesting until October 14 because Harold Godwinson, the last anglo-saxon king of Engelonde, wielding the Dane Axe and representing Britain, was out of town. Willie the Bastard got squared away first and then marched to Hastings where he met and defeated Godwinson on 10/14/1066.
On September 28, 1542, Juan Cabrillo arrived in what is now known as San Diego (California) and misnamed it San Miguel. It's an easy mistake to make out here, where the map is simply littered with places named San This and Santa That, not to mention El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora la Reina de los Ángeles del Río Porciúncula.. So, I'll just hand this off to Wikipedia here ...
On September 28, he landed in what is now San Diego Bay and named it "San Miguel".[18] A little over a week later he reached Santa Catalina Island (October 7), which he named "San Salvador", after his flagship.[19] On sending a boat to the island "a great crowd of armed Indians appeared" — whom, however, they later "befriended". Nearby San Clemente Island was named "Victoria", in honor of the third ship of the fleet. The next morning, October 8, Cabrillo came to San Pedro Bay, which was named "Baya de los Fumos" (English: Smoke Bay). The following day they anchored overnight in Santa Monica Bay. Going up the coast Cabrillo saw Anacapa Island, which they learned from the Indians was uninhabited.
The fleet spent the next week in the islands, mostly anchored in Cuyler Harbor, a bay on the northeastern coast of San Miguel Island. On October 18 the expedition saw Point Conception, which they named "Cabo de Galera". Cabrillo's expedition recorded the names of numerous Chumash villages on the California coast and adjacent islands in October 1542 — then located in the two warring provinces of Xexo (ruled by an "old woman", now Santa Barbara County, California) and Xucu (now Ventura County, California).
On November 13 they sighted and named "Cabo de Piños" (possibly either Point Pinos or Point Reyes), but missed the entrance to San Francisco Bay, a lapse that mariners would repeat for the next two centuries and more, most likely because its entrance is frequently shrouded by fog. The expedition may have reached as far north as the Russian River or even the Columbia before autumn storms forced them to turn back. Because of the vagueness of his description, it is uncertain which northern river the expedition sighted. Coming back down the coast, Cabrillo entered Monterey Bay, naming it "Bahia de Los Piños".
On November 23, 1542, the little fleet arrived back in "San Salvador" (Santa Catalina Island) to overwinter and make repairs. There, around Christmas Eve, Cabrillo stepped out of his boat and splintered his shin when he stumbled onto a jagged rock while trying to rescue some of his men from attacking Tongva warriors. The injury became infected and developed gangrene, and he died on January 3, 1543 and was buried. A possible headstone was later found on San Miguel Island. His second-in-command brought the remainder of the party back to Navidad, where they arrived April 14, 1543.
I'm sorry, but that is ludicrous From San Diego to Santa Catalina is about 86 miles and it took a bit over a week. 25 miles further to San Pedro, a day. 23 more miles to Santa Monica, another day. 25 days to go from Point Conception to maybe Point Reyes (Drakes Bay, heh, snort) 351 miles. Next they travel an unknown distance north, make a U-turn and get back to Santa Catalina in 10 days. So how much further did they go north, given that it took them 36 days to go roughly 500 miles from Santa Catalina to Point Reyes?
a) They went 90 miles further north to the Russian River, and made a 600 mile return journey, for a total distance of around 700 miles. In 10 days. After averaging about 14 miles per day from Point Concepcion to Point Reyes.
b) They went about 830 miles further north to the Columbia River and made a 1,330 mile return journey for a total distance of around 2,160 miles. In 10 days. In winter. Off the Northern California and Oregon coasts. In winter. By sail. With tons of rain, high winds and a dangerous and rocky uncharted lee shore everywhere along the route. In 1542. In 10 days. In winter.
HOW THE HOLY HELL IS THIS REMOTELY CONFUSING TO ANYBODY? Snort! It's obvious that in either case they used magik but far less in the first case.
On this day in history:
1066 – William the Bastard landed in England
1238 – King James I of Aragon conquered Valencia from the Moors.
1542 – Juan Rodríguez Cabrillo of Portugal arrived at what is now San Diego, California.
1779 – Samuel Huntington was elected President of the Continental Congress
1781 – Colonial forces backed by a French fleet began the siege of Yorktown (It's tricky besieging a chunk of the coast without a fleet)
1787 – The Congress of the Confederation voted to send the newly-written United States Constitution to the state legislatures for approval.
1821 – The Declaration of Independence of the Mexican Empire was drafted
1871 – The Brazilian Parliament passed a law that freed all children thereafter born to slaves, and all government-owned slaves.
1889 – The General Conference on Weights and Measures (CGPM) defined the length of a meter. (It was a meter, that was easy peasy)
1919 – Race riots began in Omaha, Nebraska.
1924 – The first aerial circumnavigation was completed by a team from the US Army.
1928 – Alexander Fleming noticed a bacteria-killing mold growing in his laboratory, discovering what later became known as penicillin.
1941 – Ted Williams had a .406 batting average for the season, and becomes the last major league baseball player to bat .400 or better.
1961 – A military coup in Damascus effectively ended the United Arab Republic
1970 – Egyptian President Gamal Abdel Nasser died of a heart attack in Cairo.
1971 – The Parliament of the UK passed the Misuse of Drugs Act 1971, banning the medicinal use of cannabis.
1973 – The ITT Building in New York City was bombed in protest over ITT's involvement in the coup d'état in Chile.
1995 – Yitzhak Rabin and Yasser Arafat signed the Interim Agreement on the West Bank and the Gaza Strip.
2008 – Falcon 1 became the first privately developed liquid-fuel ground-launched vehicle to put a payload into orbit.
2009 – The military junta leading Guinea attacked a protest rally, killing or wounding 1,400 people.
2018 – The 7.5 Mw 2018 Sulawesi earthquake, which triggered a large tsunami, left 4,340 dead and 10,679 injured.
Some people who were born on this day:
Confucius Say...
Wheresoever you go, go with all your heart.
Everything has its beauty, but not everyone sees it.
He who conquers himself is the mightiest warrior.
Study the past if you would define the future.
However, Buckaroo Banzai, he say:
Remember: no matter where you go, there you are.
551 BC – Confucius, teacher, editor, politician, and philosopher
1573 – Théodore de Mayerne, physician
1605 – Ismaël Bullialdus, astronomer and mathematician
1746 – William Jones, philologist and scholar
1803 – Prosper Mérimée, Farchaeologist, historian, and author
1809 – Alvan Wentworth Chapman, physician and botanist
1836 – Thomas Crapper, plumber, invented the ballcock
1852 – Henri Moissan, chemist and academic
1852 – Isis Pogson, astronomer and meteorologist
1856 – Kate Douglas Wiggin, author and educator
1860 – Paul Ulrich Villard, chemist and physicist
1868 – Evelyn Beatrice Hall, writer best known for her biography of Voltaire,
1890 – Florence Violet McKenzie, electrical engineer
1892 – Elmer Rice, playwright
1893 – Hilda Geiringer, mathematician
1900 – Isabel Pell, socialite Resistance fighter
1907 – Bhagat Singh, activist
1923 – Tuli Kupferberg, singer, poet, and writer
1924 – Marcello Mastroianni, actor and singer
1925 – Seymour Cray, computer scientist
1925 – Martin David Kruskal, physicist and mathematician
1928 – Koko Taylor, singer
1930 – Tommy Collins, country music singer and songwriter
1932 – Víctor Jara, singer, songwriter, poet, and director
1933 – Johnny Mathis, singer and songwriter
1936 – Emmett Chapman, guitarist, invented the Chapman Stick
1937 – Glenn Sutton, country music songwriter and record producer
1938 – Ben E. King, singer, songwriter .and producer
1942 – Edward "Little Buster" Forehand, singer, songwriter, and guitarist
1947 – Rhonda Hughes, mathematician and academic
1950 – Paul Burgess, drummer
1951 – Jim Diamond, singer, songwriter, and musician
1952 – Andy Ward, drummer
1954 – George Lynch, guitarist and songwriter
1955 – Kenny Kirkland, pianist
1960 – Jennifer Rush, singer and songwriter
1967 – Moon Unit Zappa, singer, actress, zappa, and author
1968 – Trish Keenan, singer, songwriter, and guitarist
1968 – Sean Levert, R&B singer, songwriter, and actor
1969 – Éric Lapointe, singer, songwriter, and keyboard player
1971 – Joseph Arthur, singer, songwriter, and guitarist
1981 – Greg Anderson, pianist and composer
1981 – Iracema Trevisan, bass player
Some people who died on this day:
~~ Harpo Marx
“While there is a lower class I am of it, while there is a criminal class I am of it, while there is a soul in prison I am not free.”
1891 – Herman Melville, author and poet
1895 – Louis Pasteur, chemist and microbiologist
1899 – Giovanni Segantini, painter
1938 – Charles Duryea, engineer and businessman
1953 – Edwin Hubble, astronomer and scholar
1964 – Harpo Marx, comedian, actor, and singer
1966 – André Breton, author and poet
1970 – John Dos Passos, novelist, poet, essayist, and playwright
1991 – Miles Davis, trumpet player, composer, and bandleader
1993 – Peter De Vries, editor and novelist
2013 – George Amon Webster, singer and pianist
2019 – José José, singer, guitarist, and bassist
2024 – Kris Kristofferson, singer, songwriter, and actor
Some Holidays, Holy Days, Festivals, Feast Days, Days of Recognition, and such:
Freedom from Hunger Day
International Day for Universal Access to Information
World Rabies Day
Today's Tunes
William the Bastard
Juan Cabrillo
Tuli Kupferberg
Koko Taylor
Víctor Jara
Johnny Mathis
Emmett Chapman
Ben E. King
Moon Unit Zappa (fer sure, fer sure)
Harpo Marx
Miles Davis
Jose Jose
Kris Kristofferson
Just gotta do it
Ok, it's an open thread, so it's up to you folks now. What's on your mind?
Cross posted from http://caucus99percent.com
Open Thread, INFORMATION, William the Bastard, Cabrillo, Yorktown, Confucius, Koko Taylor, Victor Jara, Miles Davis, Emmet Chapman, Ben E King, Moon Unit
Comments
Good morning...
How about a righteous rant on the uniparty by Massie?
(9 min) Massie Goes SCORCHED EARTH On The 'Uniparty' In House Speech
The problem with information, free or costly, is the quality. What to believe and what is BS?
Freedom from hunger is also a good idea.
So it's time to get on with chores. Watering, and planting annual ryegrass seed today. It is a pleasant 56F this AM.
Thanks for the OT and all the music!
“Until justice rolls down like water and righteousness like a mighty stream.”
goog morning Lookout, thanks for that clip. Have you got a
link, address or embed code I can send to some friends? Good luck with the chores.
be well and have a good one
That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --
Massie is just
da bomb, baby!
Thanks, LO!
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981
Hey, good morning
There is something sad about Kris Kristofferson's music.
Great songwriter nevertheless. Starting to clear the cobwebs
in the brain. Thanks for telling us it's Monday. That helps a bit.
This may be the last day of the week-long deluge of rains here.
Will be good to see the sun again tomorrow?
Zionism is a social disease
Good morning Cap'n Q. Quite true about Kristofferson's work.
Happy to keep you apprised of the day of the week on such days as I have not lost track of it. Sorry about your weather and glad to hear that it is supposed to be clearing up. Here's another Kristofferson song, covered by a different artist.
be well and have a good one
That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --
Found this article via Nak.Cap
which pulled my interest as I used to work in Cameron, LA.
A story describing the chasm between resource development.
LNG vs. shrimpers.
https://atmos.earth/climate-solutions/the-louisiana-fishermen-refusing-t...
Zionism is a social disease
Yep, they'll destroy the fishery and then if we get out of this
alive, wind up obsolete and replaced.
be well and have a good one
That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --
The International Day
for Universal Access to Information has one minor caveat, of course: you can have access to all the information you want, except for whatever information the government has on *you*.
That's one of the major motivators for the protagonist in Brunner's "Shockwave Rider". That predicted ubiquitous computing, just as we have it now, which spawned ubiquitous surveillance, which we also have now.
I don't see it ending well. But that is another reason that I'm glad that I am old and child-free.
On a happier topic, we're getting the last of the tomatoes for the season now, just ahead of the first frost (which ought to be in the next couple of weeks), and we had a bumper crop of both basil and serrano peppers. So, the end of the growing season marks the end of the hauling of water from the bathtub to the patio (these apartments don't have hose bibs), and my back will appreciate the break.
Fall has largely come early in this area, because the 3 major hailstorms we have had over the last month basically stripped 90% of the foliage off the trees. No color, just brown confetti. Weather Underground says that we're going to get somewhere north of 1.5" of precip in the next 3 days, which is an ungodly amount for around here in the high desert. And no doubt a good chunk of it will be hail once again, finishing the tree-stripping, and doing organic earthworks via massive erosion.
Ahh, fall in the Rockies. Gotta love it.
Twice bitten, permanently shy.
just ordered shockwave rider the other day
from the local library. On a 'hold' list in the state system.
Prolly be awhile before I get it. Small state, few books.
Many avid readers.
Zionism is a social disease
Good morning ufs. Good about your tomatoes, Ours, which
inundated us for quite a while there are still producing, but at a much slower rate. No real "first frost" or any other frost here, so who knows how long this will go on. I assume you can't run a hose from your shower head outside, or you would have. Large jugs on a little red wagon and then siphon once outside?
be well and have a good one
That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --
Good morning, el!
Well, this is my last Monday for office work. Henceforth, it will be from home, mostly through email and snail mail. It is called "transactional law". It would not exist if the Magna Carta from 1066 had not been created.
Thanks to the conquerors!
Have a great day, friend!
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981
Good morning and congrats, otc. Glad you explained
transactional law, standing alone I would've guessed:
1) Paying legislators to pass laws you wanted them to pass, or
2) Paying bureaucrats to issue regs interpreting laws as you wish them interpreted, or
3) paying judges for desired verdicts.
After all, we have a lot f each of those in this country.
be well and have a good one
That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --
Well, land transaction documents, a/k/a/ deeds,
and wills do involve money and occasionally guns to heads.
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981
The perils, once again, of equating Trump with Hitler
Trump is bad, of course. But he's a different threat than the threat Hitler was. Hitler was the threat of imperial domination and mass slaughter, only of a type that the mass-slaughtering imperialists were tlikely to notice, since it was being practiced upon their countries. Trump's fatal flaw was to have encountered resistance to imperialism, and to have unmasked himself -- as a mass-slaughtering imperialist -- as a response to that resistance.
Trump of course, fantasizes about being Hitler, which accounts for the complaints registered in this article: https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/trump-impersonated-hitler-at-... . But the complaint concludes:
The same oligarchy rules America now as before. The oligarchy of today, however, likes Trump in power, which would explain why they don't remove him. But, once he's seen as disposable and they can see a collective advantage in getting rid of him, he'll be gone. Trump's disposability, I might add, will have more to do with his mental state than his "fascism."
Hitler would have invaded and conquered Iran by now; Trump lets his sailors starve unto death and hurl themselves overboard before the first ground invasion was even attempted. And Hitler had an army which Trump cannot muster.
For all of the teeth-gnashing over the 2024 election, it needs to be said that we did not choose Trump, nor his merry band of fascists. The Democrats chose a losing strategy as regards the real Presidential choosers, the swing voters in the swing states. My safe state voted for Harris. In the Spring 1932 German elections, however, the voters, not divided into safe and swing states, had the choice of voting either 1) for Hitler or 2) for the man who eventually appointed Hitler.
But liberals, you see, cannot admit to the rather dramatic flaws of systems of "representation." Instead, they blame the people.
"We grow old, but we don't grow up." -- Grace Slick
Good morning Cass. Well and truly said. This part -
This needs to be widely broadcast, and explained in detail if necessary to said liberals and other adherents of the theory that there is or even can be "representative democracy, especially here.
be well and have a good one
That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --
Here is some information that the enemies of Ansarallah and
the Palestinians would not be disseminated to the public.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/netanyahu-asked-uae-leader-to-deny-reports...
In order to get there Bibi flew across Saudi Arabia.
Hmm!....Oops!
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/6115778-men-released-raf-fai...
But the police
only started action when a woman driver called them to report something strange looking about them. And all 5 terrorists are out on bail.
False Flag gone wrong, perhaps?
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981
Released on bail????
Arrested on suspicion of a terrorist conspiracy, then released on bail?
In a manner of speaking I'm sure.
己所不欲，勿施于人。