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Confusion abounds

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Something is not right;
Trump blows his own cover
https://t.me/DDGeopolitics/181000
“155 aircraft, including four bombers, 64 fighters, 48 refueling tankers, 13 rescue aircraft, and more,” – Trump on the “Search and Rescue” in Iran.
Seems like a lot of hardware and troops for a rescue.
Multiple sources are positing this was a genuine operation to seize the enriched nuclear materials from Iranian forces deep underground.
How this could be done successfully is still a bit of a mystery. Some have posited it was going to be "poisoned" with a dirty bomb so no one could access it.
Whatever the plan, it looks to have gone sideways and scored a big fat failure.
So a new narrative had to be developed.
An unfortunate (or fortuitous) shoot down of an F-15 and the subsequent search and rescue operation for the crew provided a fine cover.
Jimmy Carter's ghost has appeared in the sky.
I feel so lied to. But more than that, disrespected with such a shallow effort.
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What's happening in your neck of the woods?

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QMS's picture

His unhinged behavior does not attract confidence in the
validity of whatever he spews. If selling this war was the aim,
can't see many buying it. Unbelievable.

Thanks for the OT!

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Zionism is a social disease

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@QMS
I can't stand to listen to him anymore. I can tolerate reading his remarks, but the crudeness of his psyche comes through as someone who is completely uneducated.
You can tell his Dad bought his credentials throughout his early life. Much like Bush the Lessor, rich brat that partied through school.
Troubling to think that I, a high school grad, can read and write better than two presidents.
Sobering too.
Thanks for stopping by.

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Neither Russia nor China is our enemy.
Neither Iran nor Venezuela are threatening America.
Cuba is a dead horse, stop beating it.

enhydra lutris's picture

Loved Jimmy Carter's ghost has appeared in the sky., as did my wife when I told it to her.

The orange menace appears to have devoted a truly mind boggling amount of resources to restoring Kermit Roosevelt's junta, as he previously devoted an outlandish amount of resources to a Venezuelan "regime change" operation. It seems clear that he is channeling Allen Dulles. is this another instance of history rhyming?

DJT at Delphi: "What will happen, oh mighty oracle, if I attack Iran?"
Pythia: " A great empire will fall on its face"

be well and have a good one

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That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --

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@enhydra lutris
to spend other peoples money, with abandon.
One would think he was a commie.
Thanks for the post.

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Neither Iran nor Venezuela are threatening America.
Cuba is a dead horse, stop beating it.

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@enhydra lutris
DJT at Delphi: "What will happen, oh mighty oracle, if I attack Iran?"
Pythia: " A great empire will fall on its face"
DJT at Delphi: "Fake News"

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MAGA
Morons
Are
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Confusion, you see, would be a step above ignorant hubris or mere financial calculus.

Really, seriously, the waters began to circle the bowl when the college protests of spring 2024 were crushed. I remember visiting the UCSC encampment and seeing the protesting college students sitting quietly at teach-ins, furiously trying to get the education they were being denied in, well, college. Meanwhile, in large portions of America:

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"I hang out with losers because it makes me feel better. I hate guys that are very, very successful and you have to listen to their success stories. I like people that like to listen to my success.” -- Donald Trump

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@Cassiodorus

For owning it, that is. Among the assorted Crusader states was the Latin State of Israel, aka Kingdom of Jerusalem; Please see link, you'll love it --

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_Jerusalem#/media/File:Vexillum_...

be well and have a good one

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That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --

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@enhydra lutris The Romans, Ottomans, British etc. called the area "Palestine," a name now reserved for victims of genocide. And last I saw, which was last week, Israel was slaughtering Christians in Lebanon, which was another byproduct of the British/ French carve-up of the Ottoman Empire. And then you have the classical Israel, which applied to the northern half of Palestine, the southern half being Judea. "Jesus," or Yeshua of Nazareth to be sure, was an Aramaic-speaking Jew.

Thanks for responding!

PS bicycling into town I see these signs: "Support Ukraine." And I ask: by doing what?

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"I hang out with losers because it makes me feel better. I hate guys that are very, very successful and you have to listen to their success stories. I like people that like to listen to my success.” -- Donald Trump

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@Cassiodorus

far inland as they could get, Egypt, etc., etc. I just narrowed it down to the Kingdom of Israel because they still have a following and such a cool flag.

be well and have a good one

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That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --

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@Cassiodorus
just for your new tagline. That's both funny and cringeworthy.
Your Mr. Sausage post was funny too.
Thanks for stopping by.

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Neither Russia nor China is our enemy.
Neither Iran nor Venezuela are threatening America.
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....between an aircraft and and a sortie. Remarkable. For example 24 tactical aircraft can possibly fly 48 sorties in a 12 hour cycle. During a forty eight hour cycle they could fly 96 sorties if they don't hotseat. IOW with the same aircrews. If the aircrews hotseat, namely same aircraft different pilots and other aircrew, the same 24 aircraft could fly 96 sorties in 24 hours barring aircraft down for maintenance gripes or other losses. I'm assuming a 1+30 cycle time per sortie, by extending flight time, the numbers of sorties will go down during an operational cycle.

Also I don't know about the air force, but having a colonel 0-6 in the backseat isn't that unusual in the navy or marine corps. But a colonel is a colonel. If he's there as senior officer he could exercise command authority if that's the mission understanding. fwiw

(fixed a couple of typos)

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己所不欲,勿施于人。

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@soryang
There's a lot he doesn't know. And I read somewhere that the Air Force is colonel heavy, as in everybody at McDonald's is an Assistant Manager.
Thanks for the post.

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@earthling1

Back in the old days, maybe one or two squadrons in an airwing, might have squadron commanders who were full birds. One of them might even be a backseater/weapons officer. But an O-5 was typical as squadron commander. The airwing commander was a full bird senior O-6 typically, he would periodically take one of the squadron tactical aircraft up to maintain his flight qualifications. (oh god, the big guy is taking one of our birds today!) If he were in an actual wing mission, like an alfa strike he would be the commander. With a mixed assortment of type aircraft and crews from different services in the mission as described by Ritter on the judge's program yesterday, who knows who was overseeing the entire joint operation as commander.

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己所不欲,勿施于人。

News and other MSM outlets are no doubt doing the same thing.

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be the same after this unnecessary war! The rest of the world will also pay a heavy price!

The rest of the tweet:

UAE:
Sheikh Zayed Bridge — Abu Dhabi

KSA:
King Fahd Causeway
Riyadh-Jeddah land corridor

"This area has become a military target and is expected to come under attack in the coming hours."

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@humphrey
Think of the re-construction contracts.
I found this an interesting article.
https://indi.ca/seeing-like-a-corporate/
Thanks for the post.

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Neither Iran nor Venezuela are threatening America.
Cuba is a dead horse, stop beating it.

@earthling1

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says Pakistan is trying to broker some kind of deal. However, it seems to be more about a cessation for 2 weeks to negotiate, not a negotiated end to the conflict. I can't imagine Iran getting suckered into another cease fire.
Well, we will see what happens in a couple of hours or so.
Meanwhile, everyone I speak with is talking about rising prices for necessities, thinking about how to prepare for hard times coming our way. Now, even Republicans are calling for using the 25th Am. They must be hearing a lot of bitching from their constituents.
I wonder if they apologize to them? Or just blame it on DJT?
Thanks for the OT, e1!

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"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981

hide their glee with this countdown clock.

@on the cusp

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@humphrey
in uniform on the news desk? Is that the official censor?
Can't tell if he has a sidearm.

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@on the cusp
a few days ago, many of my MAGA friends and acquaintances have gone completely silent. It's as though they fear a "I told you so" attack and would rather bow out entirely and hide in a hole.
They can't imagine that I am not like that and would never rub it in their face.
But I now question if they would do so if the circumstances were reversed.
Thanks for stopping by.

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@earthling1 during the Monica Lewinsky crap/ So, they do like to do it, friend.

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"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981