Open Thread - Thurs - 11 Dec 2025 - New! And Old!

New! And Old!
A few days ago one of the advocacy groups I'm involved with and following led me down a rabbit hole to another advocacy area which I'd never even knew about, ever. And it's IMPORTANT. I'm sure many of you know about this, but I didn't realize that there were groups fighting Ageism, fighting against the images our society (and many other societies) make about old people, and how societies treat old people.

Artwork from Growing and Older (link below)
What a great rabbit hole! I'm just getting started and already much of the stuff I'm learning from these groups has lifted up my spirits, making me feel as good about myself and what I can do. I'm setting some possible goals, new goals for the next few years. Good stuff! Below are some of the sites I've found. There is much more out there, for sure!
Old School: A Hub for Age Equality and Ageism Awareness
Another Christmas Song!
This one is not super happy. But damn, it had/has a lot of influence. And, boy, does it bring back memories, I was 22 when it first came out. It inspired me to do a lot of things, including feeding people, fighting against rich people hunting animals (fox hunting in Britain), marching, protests and helping however I could. Do They Know It's Christmas, by Band Aid. (More info- it made 8 Million pounds! all for feeding the starving).
Here's the original video, errr, the mild version of the original video (no film/or pics of the starving):
And here's the much harsher version, with starving and dying people...
And, just cause this links the two topics in today's Blog, here's a short done by someone showing the singing stars in Band Aid as they are today!
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https://youtube.com/shorts/_OcI3bxrCgA?si=yhIYlX2ReVLtphbD
Ok, here's the open thread! What's up, whatcha doing? Reading? Thinking? Listening to? Remember, everything is interesting if you dive deep enough, so tell us about where you're diving!


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Happy Thursday!
We've had windy weather, and some rain, but not like it is in southern WA. Today I went outside to do some work and nearly got blown over, but it was 'warm' (58 F), which is so strange! At 11:42 PM, it's 50 F. 50!!! Crazy!
Hope y'all enjoy the musical memories and are having a good time today. Tell us what's up!
Ohh, just a tidbit. Nikko is earning a new surname for himself. Jaska was 'Volebane' because she was really good at hunting voles. Nikko is 'Hawkbane' because he's learning to protect the chickens from the hawks and is getting quite good at it!
If you're poor now, my friend, then you'll stay poor.
These days, only the rich get given more. -- Martial book 5:81, c. AD 100 or so
Nothing ever changes -- Sima, c. AD 2020 or so
Growing old gracefully
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one of my docs suggested that as a goal and it made
some sense at the time. Although, can't say I have the
art form down pat as new limitations evolve with the years.
Which require new adaptations. Bumbling is more like it.
Ah well. At least a portion of me is still young?
Could also be the imagination.
PS - You might want to break out the rubber raft.
Potentially catastrophic river flooding anticipated in western Washington state next couple of days.
https://balancedweather.substack.com/p/potentially-catastrophic-river-fl...
Thanks for the OT Sima!
Zionism is a social disease
Dear Sima, being en agée myself, I am so much more
aware of what I know now that I didn't even a decade ago. I'm amazed at how connecting the dots on various systems, issues and solutions is getting easier and easier.
Learning from people who know more than I do is a great pleasure and for the younger folks possibly ways of survival.
I remember my horror at the rush to put old(er) people in separate living quarters e.g. assisted living; nursing homes; dementia units; especially in New York at the beginning of the Covid onslaught. It seemed to me the goal was to erase people with accumulated knowledge that could help people be self sufficient. We can't have that can we.
To me learning by watching someone and working side by side with them is the best way to acquire new skills.
In the last ten years I've become much more aware of how to grow my own food; how systems like dry toilets and permaculture work; how to cook with much more gusto; how older European housing made of rock and permeable mortar work as healthier places to live; how to eat healthier and to create herb and spice remedies as well as more natural substances for healing; and much more.
I hope to sit with a water color artist after the first of the year to learn how to mix paint and make colors. Possibly learn how to sketch as I can't draw. I can use flowers in wonderful palettes of color from spring to late Fall. I paint with plants. Others say they can't, but it is also learned. The artist told me it's never too late to learn new ways.
I am so glad you highlighted one of my favorite subjects.
Oh, last thought: for those of us losing strength and dexterity I think the answer is to live with or in a community of younger people who could use the experience and they can use their more nimble and stamina-filled selves to create the systems that will help with resilient and happier living.
A society grows great when old men plant trees in whose shade they know they shall never sit. Allegedly Greek, but more possibly fairly modern quote.
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A very good point you make
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Co-existence with the young and old becomes more
resourceful as opposed to isolation of talents / experience.
The ancient lament - if only I had known then what I know now ..
Zionism is a social disease
"Rest in peace"
We were running our little pub in St. Pete for about ten years. I met a retired colonel there who was a combat vet (through a mutual veteran friend), in his fifties at the time, who was already retired on a comfortable pension. He was several years older. We had had a somewhat similar military specialty. He had "been there, got the belt buckle," as he loved to say. In comparison, I with lower rank, far less experience and no combat experience, was more the analyst type.
Because he had the time, he was always trying to get me to go on cross country adventures. I consistently declined, because I was responsible for the business, there was no delegating it to someone else. If I had a day off, I told him, I needed to rest. He said "I'll rest when I'm dead."
We used to argue all the time at the pub about geopolitical bs. He was a great conservative. That's why he made colonel. He drank the koolaid as it were. Don't know what happened to him.
I'm too busy or tired to write there much anymore. I have about 500 posts on my blog, which I don't update any more. I take some satisfaction in knowing when tensions in East Asia increase, interest in my old articles increases markedly, like in the past week or so. After I resolve the "housing insecurity" issue we are experiencing with all its pitfalls, which has plagued us since late 2022, hopefully I will be able to...
Sima, will take a look at your links when I have time throughout the day. Thanks for the OT!
Thousand Year Rock by Monk Bohyun
lyrics in English
Don't really understand why the link has been changed with comments removed. Also, the song did not come up on a routine youtube search, but another old version by a different singer extracted by AI apparently was proffered. MBN's youtube recording of this song 마리아 - 천년바위by Maria the US ex-pat in South Korea doesn't do the song justice, much as I like her otherwise.
語必忠信 行必正直
All I can say
about aging is that it beats the hell out of the alternative.
That is all- carry on...
Twice bitten, permanently shy.
How can it be known?
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have you a comparison as a baseline?
If being old sucks in comparison to youth
that is at least empirical evidence to develop
(at least) a theory. Not a lot to go on from the other side.
So the rest is conjecture.
Zionism is a social disease
In my mind, the alternative
was "not aging", which implies getting dead somehow. And I'd just as soon give that a miss, for the time being. (;-)
I hadn't really considered comparing youth and aging, since time only goes one direction in my world: that comparison is moot. Of course, who knows what cool new pharmaceuticals there are out there that might have an opinion about that...
Twice bitten, permanently shy.
Giving it a pass sounds like a good plan
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at least for the time being
Happy Birthday Big Mama T
Zionism is a social disease
Good morning Sima, et. al.
Age is a process, not a thing and as we age we approach a terminus with respect to which Dylan Thomas said -
What one can and should do, how and with whom is very much an open question and living in a time and place where things are plunging into chaos and tyranny complicates the shit out of things.
The pre or proto beat Kenneth Rexroth said
so there's a hint though there are infinite forms such an act can take. Dancing around a bonfire would, I suspect, count.
be well and have a good one
That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --
I'm guilty
Everywhere I go there are old people in the way. Waiting room at the doc, full of old geezers, Costco, people barely able to walk around stopping mid aisle with a cart in the way. Driving, I can understand going the speed limit but 15 under? My wife reminds me that I too am one.
Forgiveness is one of the signs
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of a developing compassion.
'as you would be treated' is a
reflexive arrangement.
Worth a try.
Zionism is a social disease